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Topic: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining USA/DE 255 blocks solved! - page 125. (Read 1514767 times)

legendary
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There are no configuration options and all miners will initially start out at diff 1024 but" the pool" offers full vardiff support from ultra low speed devices to any sized massive pooled solo farms. While shares have no intrinsic value at all with this solo mining, they provide useful feedback to miners wishing to monitor their performance locally.
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"The Bitcoin network has a global block difficulty. Valid blocks must have a hash below this target. Mining pools also have a pool-specific share difficulty setting a lower limit for shares."
quote from WIKI
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Its just that this isn't the same as solo mining even though it is represented as "solo mining".
It is solo mining, the only difference being you are not mining against your own node and you are using Ck's architecture which should increase your chance of a successful block solve being accepted by the network, in exchange for 1% of the block reward.  From the home page:

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Advantages over regular solo mining:
Mining at solo.ckpool.org avoids the overheads of running a full bitcoin node that requires both great storage and bandwidth for optimal performance.
Solo.ckpool.org is extensively connected to high speed low latency bitcoin nodes for rapid block change notification and propagation.
Unlike regular pools, ckpool never mines transaction-free blocks due to its ultra-scaleable code which has miners on both new blocks and transactions concurrently.

Yes, but if a block is "accepted" via normal solo mining, then that means you found A solution to the actual block.  On ckpool, your submissions are "accepted" but are not necessarily actual solutions to the block.  Or at least that's per your communication.
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 Its just that this isn't the same as solo mining even though it is represented as "solo mining".


As your knowledge grows, your vernacular will become refined. Whilst blurring the implied indifference of clarification.

I don't see how that's relevant as solo mining, such as mining to your own wallet, is different than this "solo mining".  It wasn't a matter of vernacular, it was a matter of solo.ckpool.org changing the behaviour of the program such that it deviated from what one would normally expect from regular solo mining.
legendary
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Its just that this isn't the same as solo mining even though it is represented as "solo mining".
It is solo mining, the only difference being you are not mining against your own node and you are using Ck's architecture which should increase your chance of a successful block solve being accepted by the network, in exchange for 1% of the block reward.  From the home page:

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Advantages over regular solo mining:
Mining at solo.ckpool.org avoids the overheads of running a full bitcoin node that requires both great storage and bandwidth for optimal performance.
Solo.ckpool.org is extensively connected to high speed low latency bitcoin nodes for rapid block change notification and propagation.
Unlike regular pools, ckpool never mines transaction-free blocks due to its ultra-scaleable code which has miners on both new blocks and transactions concurrently.
legendary
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 Its just that this isn't the same as solo mining even though it is represented as "solo mining".


As your knowledge grows, your vernacular will become refined. Whilst blurring the implied indifference of clarification.
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Here is a few quotes from Bitcoin Wiki, you know, just too intentionally confuse you further!!!   https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Main_Page


Difficulty is a measure of how difficult it is to find a hash below a given target.

The Bitcoin network has a global block difficulty. Valid blocks must have a hash below this target. Mining pools also have a pool-specific share difficulty setting a lower limit for shares.



The target is a 256-bit number (extremely large) that all Bitcoin clients share. The SHA-256 hash of a block's header must be lower than or equal to the current target for the block to be accepted by the network. The lower the target, the more difficult it is to generate a block.



Mining is the process of spending computation power to secure Bitcoin transactions against reversal and introducing new Bitcoins to the system[1].

Technically speaking, mining is the calculation of a hash of the a block header, which includes among other things a reference to the previous block, a hash of a set of transactions and a nonce. If the hash value is found to be less than the current target (which is inversely proportional to the difficulty), a new block is formed and the miner gets the newly generated Bitcoins (__ per block at current levels). If the hash is not less than the current target, a new nonce is tried, and a new hash is calculated. This is done millions of times per second by each miner.



The work performed by a miner consists of repeatedly increasing "nonce" until the hash function yields a value, that has the rare property of being below a certain target threshold. (In other words: The hash "starts with a certain number of zeroes", if you display it in the fixed-length representation, that is typically used.)

Didn't confuse me at all.  It was merely me thinking in terms of *real* solo mining.  Apparently solo.ckpool.org doesn't behave the same way.  It was my understanding that solo mining that produces accepted work completed the block.  I was right.  Its just that this isn't the same as solo mining even though it is represented as "solo mining".
legendary
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Here is a few quotes from Bitcoin Wiki, you know, just too intentionally confuse you further!!!   https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Main_Page


Difficulty is a measure of how difficult it is to find a hash below a given target.

The Bitcoin network has a global block difficulty. Valid blocks must have a hash below this target. Mining pools also have a pool-specific share difficulty setting a lower limit for shares.



The target is a 256-bit number (extremely large) that all Bitcoin clients share. The SHA-256 hash of a block's header must be lower than or equal to the current target for the block to be accepted by the network. The lower the target, the more difficult it is to generate a block.



Mining is the process of spending computation power to secure Bitcoin transactions against reversal and introducing new Bitcoins to the system[1].

Technically speaking, mining is the calculation of a hash of the a block header, which includes among other things a reference to the previous block, a hash of a set of transactions and a nonce. If the hash value is found to be less than the current target (which is inversely proportional to the difficulty), a new block is formed and the miner gets the newly generated Bitcoins (__ per block at current levels). If the hash is not less than the current target, a new nonce is tried, and a new hash is calculated. This is done millions of times per second by each miner.



The work performed by a miner consists of repeatedly increasing "nonce" until the hash function yields a value, that has the rare property of being below a certain target threshold. (In other words: The hash "starts with a certain number of zeroes", if you display it in the fixed-length representation, that is typically used.)
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It's just saying you are doing valid work on the pool.  If you solo mined your own node you would only ever see a submission if your solution was greater than network difficulty.  Ck's pool shows the submitted work as a feedback tool so you can see your miner doing something, so to speak.

I see, so its a trick of how he has it setup vs how solo mining normally works, thank you for that clarification.
legendary
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It's just saying you are doing valid work on the pool.  If you solo mined your own node you would only ever see a submission if your solution was greater than network difficulty.  Ck's pool shows the submitted work as a feedback tool so you can see your miner doing something, so to speak.
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NO, an accepted submission must also exceed the current defined difficulty to have a chance at being a block solution, it must then be the first solution accepted by the majority of the BTC network nodes, then be the building start of the next accepted block of the network chain for it to be considered "confirmed".

So, then why would my miner submit a block that it knows doesn't meet the defined difficulty?  Doesn't it ensure that to begin with?  Then you're saying that it must be "accepted" by the majority of the BTC network, which sounds fair.  So, IF it meets the difficulty requirements, then its really a matter of confirming no one else figured it out, or figured out a better answer, 10 seconds before I did, basically?  Also, when it is "submitted" is the actual intention of such a submission, at the very least, meant to be a declaration of "Hey, I think I figured out the whole block!  Here's my answer!" (regardless of the validity of such a claim)?
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NO, an accepted submission must also exceed the current defined difficulty to have a chance at being a block solution, it must then be the first solution accepted by the majority of the BTC network nodes, then be the building start of the next accepted block of the network chain for it to be considered "confirmed".
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So, if I'm mining on this solo and my miner says that I have a submission that was "accepted" does that mean I figured out a block (IE: it does NOT say "stale)?  I think I'm getting confused when compared to mining on a pool where you get plenty of "accepted" submissions, but you get like 1/10th of the credit you would for a single block on the pool.
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I still remember when the A-team stunt show was part of Universal Studios...
-ck
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Ruu \o/
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I used to hear this from the movie .... or TV series.
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I love it when a plan comes together...

I used to hear this from the movie .... or TV series.
I think we both are old  Grin
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legendary
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Ruu \o/
my derp is at 0.02 i havent seen a payout yet
This should ideally be on the other thread but since both pools are mine it doesn't matter.

You're not in this list as a payout?
http://ckpool.org/blocks/481797.confirmed

Here's the payout transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/6173008990be73406c2d364e2a3f388fdbc6402a43cd33dddda4524d7e3bc5f9

Wow i forgot about that address, yup its in there and i got paid,  NICE, TY -ck Grin
I love it when a plan comes together...
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my derp is at 0.02 i havent seen a payout yet
This should ideally be on the other thread but since both pools are mine it doesn't matter.

You're not in this list as a payout?
http://ckpool.org/blocks/481797.confirmed

Here's the payout transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/6173008990be73406c2d364e2a3f388fdbc6402a43cd33dddda4524d7e3bc5f9

Wow i forgot about that address, yup its in there and i got paid,  NICE, TY -ck Grin
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legendary
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Ruu \o/
my derp is at 0.02 i havent seen a payout yet
This should ideally be on the other thread but since both pools are mine it doesn't matter.

You're not in this list as a payout?
http://ckpool.org/blocks/481797.confirmed

Here's the payout transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/6173008990be73406c2d364e2a3f388fdbc6402a43cd33dddda4524d7e3bc5f9
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Hey -ck, did the pool hit a block?  I got a mining payout in my wallet and have no idea where it came from!!
Is it the same wallet address you might have used on his non-solo pool? Thass what I used for the short time I was on the other pool and got $25 in btc after it cracked its 1st block a couple days ago


Yes, It came in as a mined block!!  +0.09226031 BTC My DERP paid off!!!

well, thats because you might have mined on http://ckpool.org/pool

just check out

 Grin


my derp is at 0.02 i havent seen a payout yet
legendary
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-> morgen, ist heute, schon gestern <-
Hey -ck, did the pool hit a block?  I got a mining payout in my wallet and have no idea where it came from!!
Is it the same wallet address you might have used on his non-solo pool? Thass what I used for the short time I was on the other pool and got $25 in btc after it cracked its 1st block a couple days ago


Yes, It came in as a mined block!!  +0.09226031 BTC My DERP paid off!!!

well, thats because you might have mined on http://ckpool.org/pool

just check out

 Grin
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