Not at all. The hashrate will still show at the pool since you're not pulling the entire hash from the pool, you're pulling one solved block. More like turning on a small tap in the ocean than diverting the entire ocean.
Shares are only valid if they are hashing for the pool, the stratum server validates this and it is not possible to fake. Since you can't predict ahead of time which hash will result in a block find the most you can do is withhold a block by not uploading that hash/share to the pool. It can't be redirected because it was generated off of the pools template, shares not generated from the pools template are invalid shares and will be rejected by the stratum server. 
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September 23, 2015, 01:11:38 AM
September 23, 2015, 01:10:22 AM
Now you're trolling. It's impossible as the author of both mining and pool software has attested to. The burden is on you to prove otherwise. If the hashrate is showing up at the pool, it is going to the pool. If you redirect it, it will no longer show up at the pool.
Not at all. The hashrate will still show at the pool since you're not pulling the entire hash from the pool, you're pulling one solved block. More like turning on a small tap in the ocean than diverting the entire ocean.
You don't understand how pools work apparently.
September 22, 2015, 10:58:21 PM
Now you're trolling. It's impossible as the author of both mining and pool software has attested to. The burden is on you to prove otherwise. If the hashrate is showing up at the pool, it is going to the pool. If you redirect it, it will no longer show up at the pool.
Not at all. The hashrate will still show at the pool since you're not pulling the entire hash from the pool, you're pulling one solved block. More like turning on a small tap in the ocean than diverting the entire ocean.
if you can clearly demo this is possible you will be able to really kill off all mining other then solo mining.
and of course f2pool.
If you can do this just partner up with any large pool and siphon off a block or 2 a week.
If you say you can and never prove it oh well. I have a bridge or two for sale myself.
September 22, 2015, 10:49:18 PM
I want to believe.
But i can't, too hard to understand for me.
The easiest one according to my understanding is:
When a block solved and (if it really being) "redirected" to another address, I'm sure our address will be at the first place and we can find the trails from blockchain. And if it really happen, that's the time we can make a judge to the machine owner.
I still believe in ck's statement and i hope he's right.
Cheers.
ps.
we have a growing hash rate
"hashrate1m": "5.39P"
But i can't, too hard to understand for me.
The easiest one according to my understanding is:
When a block solved and (if it really being) "redirected" to another address, I'm sure our address will be at the first place and we can find the trails from blockchain. And if it really happen, that's the time we can make a judge to the machine owner.
I still believe in ck's statement and i hope he's right.
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If the hashrate is directed at one address it is impossible to redirect a found block to another address.
Cheers.
ps.
we have a growing hash rate
"hashrate1m": "5.39P"
September 22, 2015, 09:20:00 PM
Now you're trolling. It's impossible as the author of both mining and pool software has attested to. The burden is on you to prove otherwise. If the hashrate is showing up at the pool, it is going to the pool. If you redirect it, it will no longer show up at the pool.
Not at all. The hashrate will still show at the pool since you're not pulling the entire hash from the pool, you're pulling one solved block. More like turning on a small tap in the ocean than diverting the entire ocean.
September 22, 2015, 09:12:00 PM
There is absolutely no way to extract a block from hashrate going to a pool and send it to another address.
Any block found can easily be redirected to another pool or instance of btc core with another address by altering the code in the miner itself. It's not poolside or pool dependent.
September 22, 2015, 09:09:17 PM
There is absolutely no way to extract a block from hashrate going to a pool and send it to another address.
Any block found can easily be redirected to another pool or instance of btc core with another address by altering the code in the miner itself. It's not poolside or pool dependent.
September 22, 2015, 08:29:36 PM
Hash rate doesn't matter in a solo pool if every block is diverted to another wallet... IF_blockfound=true mineto:14ia904CheaterAddress9489128
There is no way you can do this. If the hashrate is directed at one address it is impossible to redirect a found block to another address.Not at all. Whomever controls the miner controls where the coins are sent. I'm not saying the POOL is at fault here at all. I love this pool
But rented hash is a coin toss. The bad statistics coming out of the rental farms is way more than can be explained by "bad luck".
The only thing they can do is WITHHOLD the block so that no one gets it which is the main risk with rented hash. There is absolutely no way to extract a block from hashrate going to a pool and send it to another address.
September 22, 2015, 08:21:12 PM
Hash rate doesn't matter in a solo pool if every block is diverted to another wallet... IF_blockfound=true mineto:14ia904CheaterAddress9489128
There is no way you can do this. If the hashrate is directed at one address it is impossible to redirect a found block to another address.Not at all. Whomever controls the miner controls where the coins are sent. I'm not saying the POOL is at fault here at all. I love this pool
But rented hash is a coin toss. The bad statistics coming out of the rental farms is way more than can be explained by "bad luck".
September 22, 2015, 08:10:19 PM
Hash rate doesn't matter in a solo pool if every block is diverted to another wallet... IF_blockfound=true mineto:14ia904CheaterAddress9489128
There is no way you can do this. If the hashrate is directed at one address it is impossible to redirect a found block to another address. September 22, 2015, 08:08:21 PM
@hodedowe
personally, i've rented from mrr and betarigs for the last 3 months with small hash, this is my first time using nicehash and i have no idea about they are being real or fake.....as long as the hashing speed at ckpools stated accordingly, it's ok for me
cheers.
Hash rate doesn't matter in a solo pool if every block is diverted to another wallet... IF_blockfound=true mineto:14ia904CheaterAddress9489128
September 22, 2015, 07:30:26 PM
@-droid-
yes my bro
and pool's hashrate is going up now, someone is hashing using more than 500T, hope he would find one.
"hashrate1m": "1.28P"
@hodedowe
personally, i've rented from mrr and betarigs for the last 3 months with small hash, this is my first time using nicehash and i have no idea about they are being real or fake.....as long as the hashing speed at ckpools stated accordingly, it's ok for me
cheers.
yes my bro
and pool's hashrate is going up now, someone is hashing using more than 500T, hope he would find one.
"hashrate1m": "1.28P"
@hodedowe
personally, i've rented from mrr and betarigs for the last 3 months with small hash, this is my first time using nicehash and i have no idea about they are being real or fake.....as long as the hashing speed at ckpools stated accordingly, it's ok for me
cheers.
September 22, 2015, 06:54:08 PM
You guys buying from "fakehash" should just buy bitcoin itself and save yourself some money. If the machine's not in your possession there's no way to know if you're being ripped from any blocks found.
September 22, 2015, 06:00:18 PM
damn...solo mining is a little bit expensive
rented some from nicehash, will be ended at the upcoming 5 hours.....hope it worth enough with my profit from bts hype trading few days a go
hope others big miner will come around, we have to solve another block at this georgeous solo mining pool.
ps.
always watch and admire for kano's & ckpool's works.
cheers.
rented some from nicehash, will be ended at the upcoming 5 hours.....hope it worth enough with my profit from bts hype trading few days a go
hope others big miner will come around, we have to solve another block at this georgeous solo mining pool.
ps.
always watch and admire for kano's & ckpool's works.
cheers.
im with ya man.. every once in awhile i splurge and rent some hash for a few hours.. figured its better than buying scratch its
September 22, 2015, 05:21:48 PM
damn...solo mining is a little bit expensive
rented some from nicehash, will be ended at the upcoming 5 hours.....hope it worth enough with my profit from bts hype trading few days a go
hope others big miner will come around, we have to solve another block at this georgeous solo mining pool.
ps.
always watch and admire for kano's & ckpool's works.
cheers.
rented some from nicehash, will be ended at the upcoming 5 hours.....hope it worth enough with my profit from bts hype trading few days a go
hope others big miner will come around, we have to solve another block at this georgeous solo mining pool.
ps.
always watch and admire for kano's & ckpool's works.
cheers.
September 22, 2015, 06:58:10 AM
you mean People like me =>
{"hashrate1m": "104G", "hashrate5m": "116G", "hashrate1hr": "129G", "hashrate1d": "131G", "hashrate7d": "115G", "lastupdate": 1442915562, "workers": 2, "bestshare": 4917714600.7218513}
YES
I think that was the begining of all that, as we disused the U2 and so on.
Personaly i invest 0,50 € Cent per Day in electrical power, wich is the half payment of a weekly Lottery in germany (LOTTO).
OK with the Lottery i can win a lot of money, with the solved block "just" 25 BTC (at the time of writing).
For me it is worth it, seeing the Raspi running and all other embeded Linux things.
And maybe i solve one Block and get the spended money back (for a hobby there is no need for a big +, just Fun).
September 21, 2015, 04:56:01 PM
Funnily enough I get the feeling the massive extra hashrate I had here over the last few weeks was someone trying to get the pool up to 100 blocks. Once the 100th was solved they all left and now the bulk of the miners are those trying their luck with regular mining gear and hashrates.
September 21, 2015, 10:27:02 AM
ck, is anything going on with the pool right now? My miners (both personal and rental) are hashing at a very low rate.
Edit: looks like it's back to normal now. Not sure what happened there..
Nothing unusual at the pool end. Perhaps some temporary routing dodginess between you and the pool.Edit: looks like it's back to normal now. Not sure what happened there..
Yeah, I noticed they all failed over to my backup pool a couple of minutes ago but they are back now.
September 21, 2015, 10:24:40 AM
ck, is anything going on with the pool right now? My miners (both personal and rental) are hashing at a very low rate.
Edit: looks like it's back to normal now. Not sure what happened there..
Nothing unusual at the pool end. Perhaps some temporary routing dodginess between you and the pool. Edit: looks like it's back to normal now. Not sure what happened there..
September 21, 2015, 10:12:03 AM
mine are running slow as well with just rocking solo with bitcoin client....just yesterday and today tho....odd...
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