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Topic: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining USA/DE 255 blocks solved! - page 480. (Read 1514749 times)

hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Hi
 can someone help with this?
 I have pointed 4 of my Ants S3 to solo pool and get lot of discarted shares.
 For example:
GetWorks   15
Accepted   79
Rejected   1
Discarded    2342


and best share is also very low afer few minutes.

When I point this miners for example to Slush I get:

GetWorks   19922
Accepted   152451
Rejected   337
Discarded    1934111

And best share is > 1 000 0000 after few minutes.

In solo pool is ratio Accepted / Discarded much bigger.

Thanks
Like it has been mentioned, the discarded number is due to the S3's high queue (I think it is 1046), but I am meant to believe does NOT affect your mining. you can change this to a lower number to get less discards.
This particular solo pool, I have noticed, takes a while to "settle" down to your appropriate hashing speed to assign a relevant Diff, so a few minutes is not long enough to reach conclusions.
member
Activity: 103
Merit: 10
Discards are a result of the S3 having a high queue setting. most people ignore it.

Thanks, so where is the place to set the queue size?
newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
Hi
 can someone help with this?
 I have pointed 4 of my Ants S3 to solo pool and get lot of discarted shares.
 For example:
GetWorks   15
Accepted   79
Rejected   1
Discarded    2342


and best share is also very low afer few minutes.

When I point this miners for example to Slush I get:

GetWorks   19922
Accepted   152451
Rejected   337
Discarded    1934111

And best share is > 1 000 0000 after few minutes.

In solo pool is ratio Accepted / Discarded much bigger.

Thanks



Discards are a result of the S3 having a high queue setting. most people ignore it.
member
Activity: 103
Merit: 10
Hi
 can someone help with this?
 I have pointed 4 of my Ants S3 to solo pool and get lot of discarted shares.
 For example:
GetWorks   15
Accepted   79
Rejected   1
Discarded    2342


and best share is also very low afer few minutes.

When I point this miners for example to Slush I get:

GetWorks   19922
Accepted   152451
Rejected   337
Discarded    1934111

And best share is > 1 000 0000 after few minutes.

In solo pool is ratio Accepted / Discarded much bigger.

Thanks
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1024
Mine at Jonny's Pool
Come off it! How does this solo pool get paid? If you find the block, then you get 99.95% of the 25 BTC it is worth, the rest to the pool.
In the same breath I'd add, the "normal" pool mining would say incur a flat rate for paying out to your address (not rocket science, but the pool gets paid then!)

But I digress, the question was is that kind of pool technically feasible to implement (or am I barking mad because that is what P2Pool is)?
You're asking if work can be submitted twice.  It can't.  Think about it.  If something like this could be implemented, then I could take my hashing power and multiply it by connecting to multiple pools.  So, in pool 1, I have 1TH/s, and pool 2 I have that same 1TH/s, and in pool N I have my 1TH/s, effectively giving me N TH/s mining, when I only have a single terra hash of hardware.  So, to answer your question, no, that kind of pool is not technically feasible to implement.  

P2Pool does nothing of the sort.  P2Pool has its own block chain called the share chain.  Each share that is added to the chain either solves the BTC block or it does not.  If it does, the generation transaction includes the payouts to all the miners who have shares on the chain.  If it does not solve the block, it is just added to the share chain.
hero member
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How exactly would the "pool" get paid? All of the coins from the block go to whoever finds it. If you take coins from that person, it just becomes another pool.
Come off it! How does this solo pool get paid? If you find the block, then you get 99.95% of the 25 BTC it is worth, the rest to the pool.
In the same breath I'd add, the "normal" pool mining would say incur a flat rate for paying out to your address (not rocket science, but the pool gets paid then!)

But I digress, the question was is that kind of pool technically feasible to implement (or am I barking mad because that is what P2Pool is)?
hero member
Activity: 591
Merit: 500
You miss the point completely.
I was insinuating to the technical feasibility of implementing a pool that would offer both solo-mining AND pool mining (if that makes sense), thus the issue of being banned by the pool would not arise.

So the question still stands, is it technically feasible to implement one? by the way, from the small miner's point of view, this will just ensure that all mining is at least rewarded. I play the lottery every week, but that does not mean I have to give up the day job!
How exactly would the "pool" get paid? All of the coins from the block go to whoever finds it. If you take coins from that person, it just becomes another pool.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Thankfully, this is impossible. Pools send out work that pay to their own addresses and there's no way of changing that. Even if there was a way of doing it, any pool that you do it to has every right to ban you because you would be stealing from them.
You miss the point completely.
I was insinuating to the technical feasibility of implementing a pool that would offer both solo-mining AND pool mining (if that makes sense), thus the issue of being banned by the pool would not arise.

So the question still stands, is it technically feasible to implement one? by the way, from the small miner's point of view, this will just ensure that all mining is at least rewarded. I play the lottery every week, but that does not mean I have to give up the day job!
hero member
Activity: 591
Merit: 500
Just wondering, can we not have the best of both worlds by solo-mining AND submiting to a pool at the same time?
I am thinking along the lines of having a mining proxy opening connections (chats) and first submiting to the solo-minig chat then to the pool such that if you "discover" a block, you win it with the intial submission and though you go ahead and submit the same share to the pool, it is of no effect.

Would this require a special implementation of the pool and what does it take to mine directly rather than through a solo mining pool such as this one?
Thankfully, this is impossible. Pools send out work that pay to their own addresses and there's no way of changing that. Even if there was a way of doing it, any pool that you do it to has every right to ban you because you would be stealing from them.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Just wondering, can we not have the best of both worlds by solo-mining AND submiting to a pool at the same time?
I am thinking along the lines of having a mining proxy opening connections (chats) and first submiting to the solo-minig chat then to the pool such that if you "discover" a block, you win it with the intial submission and though you go ahead and submit the same share to the pool, it is of no effect.

Would this require a special implementation of the pool and what does it take to mine directly rather than through a solo mining pool such as this one?
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 0
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
its for fun so there is no expectations....
I mine also with my cpu (using cpuminer) and in my office with USB miner
I dont know how I will look the balance on my wallet when and if there is something found....
thanks
hero member
Activity: 537
Merit: 524
Yeah, expecting to hit one any day now  Grin

.....or in 2000 years or something like that lol
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
BTW, have decided to mine here as a lottery with my 3 am usb block erupters for a whopping 1 GH/s ... lol
Woohoo, that'll make the blocks roll in in no time!
hero member
Activity: 537
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@jborkl: it's in the OP: 1PKN98VN2z5gwSGZvGKS2bj8aADZBkyhkZ

BTW, have decided to mine here as a lottery with my 3 am usb block erupters for a whopping 1 GH/s ... lol
sr. member
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Team Heritage Motorsports
Con, if you don't mind can you pm me the fee address. I can use it to add the pool into my database so ckpool will show up.
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
I want to ask if you have plans on making this so we can merge mine f.ex. Namecoin. At least maybe it would be luckier to find a block in Namecoin and cover some of the expenses to my electricity. Smiley
ckpool will not be merge mining anything. Monetising virtually worthless altcoins is a mistake and adds nothing but instability and only makes it look like the rewards are better. I'm concentrating on stability and scaleability with low fees which ultimately lead to better rewards.
newbie
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Merit: 0
con, i've started mining on slush with 990 GH/s, would you recommend me to use your pool as a secondary pool?
While solo mining will not lead to consistent profits for most miners, the fact is that if every single miner mines solo, the bitcoin network itself remains safe, transactions get propagated, and the protection is maximally decentralised.

This is the main reason I am going to solo mine (just as soon as mmpool has found a block, I have used many days there, so I dont want to move now and waste all that time).

My hashpower is not that much only around 700GH/s with KnC Jupiter, so I am not thinking that I will ever find af block with this hardware, so its mainly to help the bitcoin society and maybe if I get lucky I can cover my expenses. I am living in Denmark and the price for electricity is very high here. I pay around USD 250 per MONTH to run this hardware. Yep, I know.

I want to ask if you have plans on making this so we can merge mine f.ex. Namecoin. At least maybe it would be luckier to find a block in Namecoin and cover some of the expenses to my electricity. Smiley
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
con, i've started mining on slush with 990 GH/s, would you recommend me to use your pool as a secondary pool?
This particular pool is rather different to other pools. The vast majority of people mining on this pool will make no money whatsoever, but every so often someone will get lucky and make a mini fortune. Some people prefer to do this by default if they're unlikely to ever recoup the costs of the hardware they purchased in the hope of making a huge profit. These people will put this pool as the primary pool they operate on. If that is not how you wish to mine, then this is not the primary pool for you. However, due to various conditions on the internet which may lead to loss of connectivity from your primary pool and even multiple back up pools (such as DDoS attacks, hardware and network instability), every miner should still have a "last resort" backup which is solo mining. While solo mining will not lead to consistent profits for most miners, the fact is that if every single miner mines solo, the bitcoin network itself remains safe, transactions get propagated, and the protection is maximally decentralised. So even if a miner does not wish to take the great risk associated with solo mining as their primary mining source, every single miner out there should have a solo mining setup as their final backup. This pool provides an extremely easy way to effectively mine solo as your last backup without the overheads of running and maintaining a high bandwidth resource hungry low latency bitcoin node that is hard to do in a home environment. So yes, I would recommend that if you do not have a robust solo mining solution as your final backup in your home, you should use this pool.
legendary
Activity: 1143
Merit: 1000
con, i've started mining on slush with 990 GH/s, would you recommend me to use your pool as a secondary pool?
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