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Topic: YOBIT SCAM: x10 Banner Promoters Will Be Tagged For Promoting a Ponzi Scheme - page 2. (Read 2383 times)

legendary
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A joke.

< Yeah, dude, our trust system is totally fucked!

There's something seriously wrong with the trust system but it's not what you think.

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Right so let me get this:
1) I clicked the link on your signature because it promised me money.
2) I invested money under this 10% daily promise.
3) Because this is a scam ponzi, I lost all my money.

There's no crime, right? You are not directly responsibly for me landing on the website, right?

I gave you the option to visit the website.
Visiting websites is not a crime.

Let me make this clear so my words aren't twisted again.
Having ponzis in your signature is bad and shouldn't be done.
But it's still not a crime and worthy of a tag.
legendary
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Terminated.
A joke.

< Yeah, dude, our trust system is totally fucked!
Nobody sane is going to give you credit for having the opportunity to steal and not stealing. Most humans have countless opportunities to steal every day. Please stop quoting this about yourself, because eventually it will be seen in the wrong light.

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In other words: You don't care about justice, nor do you give a single fork about any past or potential future victims. Also, even the legal system does not side with you on this one.

My view of "justice" is that you actually have to do something harmful to be a criminal.
Participating in a signature campaign is not a crime.
Right so let me get this:
1) I clicked the link on your signature because it promised me money.
2) I invested money under this 10% daily promise.
3) Because this is a scam ponzi, I lost all my money.

There's no crime, right? You are not directly responsibly for me landing on the website, right?
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1150
Freedom&Honor
A joke.

< Yeah, dude, our trust system is totally fucked!
legendary
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I luvbitcoins has already shifted the blame from scammer to victim because victims should apply due-diligence.

Like this?

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The only one to blame is YoBit

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In other words: You don't care about justice, nor do you give a single fork about any past or potential future victims. Also, even the legal system does not side with you on this one.

My view of "justice" is that you actually have to do something harmful to be a criminal.
Participating in a signature campaign is not a crime.

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Having users with the mindeset of iluvbitcoins clearly shows there is a flaw in the trust system.

I am and always will be more trustworthy than you and most of these people replying here are.
legendary
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Having users with the mindeset of iluvbitcoins clearly shows there is a flaw in the trust system.

The only one to blame is YoBit and certainly not the people who participated in the signature campaign.
In other words: You don't care about justice, nor do you give a single fork about any past or potential future victims. Also, even the legal system does not side with you on this one.
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
The only one to blame is YoBit and certainly not the people who participated in the signature campaign.
In other words: You don't care about justice, nor do you give a single fork about any past or potential future victims. Also, even the legal system does not side with you on this one.

Hilarious. Lauda lecturing people about justice. You act like some one was murdered here. Why don't you stick to targeting perpetrators, not just people who disagree with you or anyone associated with them.
legendary
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Terminated.
You could have realized this before by reading between the lines. Latest being, "innocent posters getting tags". I guess the next step is that we blame victims for being scammed, like Visipilio tried to or whatever went on there.
The only one to blame is YoBit and certainly not the people who participated in the signature campaign.
In other words: You don't care about justice, nor do you give a single fork about any past or potential future victims. Also, even the legal system does not side with you on this one.
legendary
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I didn't research into YoBit at all because I have believed it's not my job to do so for reasons I outlined above.
I had no idea YoBit campaign was ending.
It now looks like you're willing to promote anything that pays you, without checking what it is and without keeping track of the campaign thread. That's disappointing for a green trusted Legendary member to say the least.
That is more disappointing coming from a deep green member.



I didn't research into YoBit at all because I have believed it's not my job to do so for reasons I outlined above.
I had no idea YoBit campaign was ending.
It now looks like you're willing to promote anything that pays you, without checking what it is and without keeping track of the campaign thread. That's disappointing for a green trusted Legendary member to say the least.
You could have realized this before by reading between the lines. Latest being, "innocent posters getting tags". I guess the next step is that we blame victims for being scammed, like Visipilio tried to or whatever went on there.
Reading through the posts, iluvbitcoins has already shifted the blame from scammer to victim because victims should apply due-diligence. That point of view is very wrong on many levels.
legendary
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Yes, now hypothetical guilt.

I'm just trying to gauge how much personal responsibility and due diligence iluvbitcoins considers acceptable. It looks like 0 so far.

Nah, you are trying to manufacture a narrative of guilt because you have nothing to grasp on to here, so you have to beef it up a little bit with your fairy tales.
legendary
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Is it allowed on the forum

You tell me.

is it publicly disclosed that this is a requirement?

Yes.

Yes, now hypothetical guilt.

I'm just trying to gauge how much personal responsibility and due diligence iluvbitcoins considers acceptable. It looks like 0 so far.

I'm not going to research this now. I assume it isn't?
The answer is simple, if it's allowed and publicly disclosed - yes.
If it's not allowed - obviously not.
If it's allowed but not publicly disclosed - also no, because it's devious and makes it seem as there's more interest in the website than it actually is.
legendary
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Is it allowed on the forum

You tell me.

is it publicly disclosed that this is a requirement?

Yes.

Yes, now hypothetical guilt.

I'm just trying to gauge how much personal responsibility and due diligence iluvbitcoins considers acceptable. It looks like 0 so far.
legendary
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If the signature campaign asks you to post in the Yobit thread, is that still ok?
I guess that would be okay unless theymos says that's forbidden.

Let me clarify - if Yobit told you that in order to get paid you have to post in some Yobit thread on Bitcointalk, would you have done that?

Is it allowed on the forum and is it publicly disclosed that this is a requirement?

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If the signature campaign asks you to post in the Yobit thread, is that still ok?
I guess that would be okay unless theymos says that's forbidden.

Let me clarify - if Yobit told you that in order to get paid you have to post in some Yobit thread on Bitcointalk, would you have done that?

Yes, now hypothetical guilt.

I chuckled  Cheesy
legendary
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If the signature campaign asks you to post in the Yobit thread, is that still ok?
I guess that would be okay unless theymos says that's forbidden.

Let me clarify - if Yobit told you that in order to get paid you have to post in some Yobit thread on Bitcointalk, would you have done that?

Yes, now hypothetical guilt.
legendary
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If the signature campaign asks you to post in the Yobit thread, is that still ok?
I guess that would be okay unless theymos says that's forbidden.

Let me clarify - if Yobit told you that in order to get paid you have to post in some Yobit thread on Bitcointalk, would you have done that?
legendary
Activity: 2198
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I didn't research into YoBit at all because I have believed it's not my job to do so for reasons I outlined above.
I had no idea YoBit campaign was ending.
It now looks like you're willing to promote anything that pays you, without checking what it is and without keeping track of the campaign thread. That's disappointing for a green trusted Legendary member to say the least.

-I didn't check and keep track
-I'm willing to promote anything that pays me

If I didn't know and I'm willing to promote anything that pays me I would keep posting.
Pick one.

I didn't research into YoBit at all because I have believed it's not my job to do so for reasons I outlined above.
I had no idea YoBit campaign was ending.
It now looks like you're willing to promote anything that pays you, without checking what it is and without keeping track of the campaign thread. That's disappointing for a green trusted Legendary member to say the least.
You could have realized this before by reading between the lines. Latest being, "innocent posters getting tags". I guess the next step is that we blame victims for being scammed, like Visipilio tried to or whatever went on there.

The only one to blame is YoBit and certainly not the people who participated in the signature campaign.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 1958
First Exclusion Ever
Most have probably never encountered threads about this website at all. Nor did they know how YoBit operates or what an InvestBox was.

Where do you draw the line? If the campaign puts a malware link into the signature, is that still ok? If the signature campaign asks you to post in the Yobit thread, is that still ok?

BTW there was a lively debate about X10 in the signature campaign thread. That's where Yobit requested to change the signature, that's where yahoo said he was going to ask for a change, etc. If you're that ignorant then you probably shouldn't be in a signature campaign to begin with.


You draw the line where guilt via association and arbitrary enforcement is not used. All of the scenarios you posted are talking about direct involvement, not guilt via association just for wearing a banner you and your mob buddies are obsessing over. Once again, none of your obsessive mobbing and tagging changes anything, it is exclusively punitive compulsive behavior to punish users and stops Yobit itself in no way.



nullius   2020-01-28      Counter to counters by figmentofmyass, BayAreaCoins, and eddie13. What, is this some schoolyard game? NO BACKSIES! — The feedback provided by by Lauda, Vod, and marlboroza is factually based, and a necessary warning to anybody who is trying to understand TECSHARE’s persistent crusade to protect forum abusers, attack people who stop forum abuse, manipulate DT voting, and otherwise undermine the trust system.


Like I said, you are operating on guilt via association. Now instead of just tagging people who are associated with Yobit, you are tagging people who are arguing against tagging people associated with Yobit, because clearly if they disagree with you they deserved to be tagged too. This is exactly the reason this shouldn't be happening, because this guilt via association excuse is EVER EXPANDING and has no clear line where it begins or stops.

~nullius
legendary
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Terminated.
I didn't research into YoBit at all because I have believed it's not my job to do so for reasons I outlined above.
I had no idea YoBit campaign was ending.
It now looks like you're willing to promote anything that pays you, without checking what it is and without keeping track of the campaign thread. That's disappointing for a green trusted Legendary member to say the least.
You could have realized this before by reading between the lines. Latest being, "innocent posters getting tags". I guess the next step is that we blame victims for being scammed, like Visipilio tried to or whatever went on there.
legendary
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I didn't research into YoBit at all because I have believed it's not my job to do so for reasons I outlined above.
I had no idea YoBit campaign was ending.
It now looks like you're willing to promote anything that pays you, without checking what it is and without keeping track of the campaign thread. That's disappointing for a green trusted Legendary member to say the least.
legendary
Activity: 2198
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I had no idea YoBit campaign was ending.
And we've been through this before.
Selling advertisement space is not the same as promoting a website.

I don't get the point of discussing all this when you were warned at first and allowed a day to stop promoting X10 banner. It is obvious that people who went there seeing your signature would definitely not be the ones who were aware about Yobit's investbox scam. And about X10, did you see that it just exhausted completely and there are no buyers for it even at 1 sat now? I have also seen fake volumes and not just that, there were some players in their dice area who make bets of BTC0.5, BTC0.7 and such big bets without proof that the bets were provably fair, you can't even see your bets available anywhere on the site and I've never seen my old bets' logs. The usernames remain similar each day and they look to be their own members or bots no matter what, but I don't know how Yobit is managing to have its exchange up and running even after having no proof of coins popping up through their ICO/IEO but there are still people who trust them and I don't know the base that's making them believe that Yobit is not scamming/will not scam.

I couldn't give more fucks about YoBit.
What I do care about is innocent posters getting red tags.

Most have probably never encountered threads about this website at all. Nor did they know how YoBit operates or what an InvestBox was.

Where do you draw the line? If the campaign puts a malware link into the signature, is that still ok? If the signature campaign asks you to post in the Yobit thread, is that still ok?

BTW there was a lively debate about X10 in the signature campaign thread. That's where Yobit requested to change the signature, that's where yahoo said he was going to ask for a change, etc. If you're that ignorant then you probably shouldn't be in a signature campaign to begin with.

Ofcourse it isn't.
A malware removes your free will.
It can steal from you, spy on you or take control of your computer.
You know what doesn't remove your free will? Malware free websites Cheesy
No one can force you to invest in something. You choose what to do.
As I said, people should remove YoBits signature. They really should. It's not cool.
It's inflationary bullshit that shouldn't be advertised.
But I find using using the trust system against them is much more harmful.

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If the signature campaign asks you to post in the Yobit thread, is that still ok?
I guess that would be okay unless theymos says that's forbidden.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Most have probably never encountered threads about this website at all. Nor did they know how YoBit operates or what an InvestBox was.

Where do you draw the line? If the campaign puts a malware link into the signature, is that still ok? If the signature campaign asks you to post in the Yobit thread, is that still ok?

BTW there was a lively debate about X10 in the signature campaign thread. That's where Yobit requested to change the signature, that's where yahoo said he was going to ask for a change, etc. If you're that ignorant then you probably shouldn't be in a signature campaign to begin with.
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