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legendary
Activity: 2758
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April 21, 2019, 11:46:29 AM
I'm not sure about that they are doing a poll in meta to ask if members should leave negative trust feed backs to the campaign participants.
And for the moment most of members are saying No (73%)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/leave-negative-feedback-for-yobit-spamming-5134345
So I think it's only few users who are hateful for unknown reasons(maybe personal reasons).

Polls are useless here. Anybody can vote (even recently created accounts) and it's obvious that while most forum users don't care about this poll (thus they don't vote), every user on Yobit's campaign will go to that thread and vote No.

Anyways, the answer is always no. I would like to neg-trust the obvious spammers (20 shitposts in 45 minutes and such), but theymos already stated that we shouldn't do this. And not for personal reasons, but because those spammers don't deserve a single penny.
jr. member
Activity: 75
Merit: 5
April 21, 2019, 11:38:48 AM
It's a max of 20 posts a day, you aren't required to make 20 posts a day, if you want to be greedy and just post for the sake of posting.

I just signed up and I won't be making 20 posts a day.  


Posting 20x max a day wont really be a problem as long you do obey forum rules and so as with signature campaign rules too.We cant really blame people here on saying maxing 20 post a day is a sign of greed.
Not all people promoting yobit are greedy ones,its just normal for people to jump in where they do saw that rates is much better on other but well it do really give out negative insights for other members of this forum as well.
I'm not sure about that they are doing a poll in meta to ask if members should leave negative trust feed backs to the Yobit campaign participants.
And for the moment most of members are saying No (73%)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/leave-negative-feedback-for-yobit-spamming-5134345
So I think it's only few users who are hateful for unknown reasons(maybe personal reasons).
hero member
Activity: 2562
Merit: 577
April 21, 2019, 11:32:29 AM
It's a max of 20 posts a day, you aren't required to make 20 posts a day, if you want to be greedy and just post for the sake of posting.

I just signed up and I won't be making 20 posts a day.  



It is not mandatory for participants to make 20 post but it is a choice if you want to post up to 20 to earn, the most important to note is abiding by forum and campaign rules not spam and most of all try to make your post a bit more constructive, if you read the yobit rules on the signature page they specifically pointed out that one line post wont be tolerated, at the same time encourage good post, so it's your choice the make any number as long as it does not exceed 20 per day.
sr. member
Activity: 840
Merit: 262
April 21, 2019, 09:48:02 AM
How long does it take to see the results on the Yobit website?


★ Personal stats updated every 3-4 hours

tell and posts in the Russian branch are considered ?Or only in English the forum ?

Only posts in the main (English) forum are paid.
Although for example from the former USSR there are many clients at the exchange.
yes they even have Russian Ruble on the exchange. I think posting in Russian local boards would be perspective. However for now Local boards posts aren't being accepted.
hero member
Activity: 2562
Merit: 577
April 21, 2019, 09:08:03 AM
For those who asking about post count that didn't tally with your current post count, try to change your forum timezone to (-3) Brazil Time. YoBit exchange uses Brazil timezone on that signature campaign symtem.

You can change your forum timezone here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=account;sa=theme

ummm that explains why some of the post i made on the 20th where counted as that of 21st, i look at the time the post where made and it was still within on the 20th according to forum time but it is clear now why that happens, thanks for the heads up, very helpful.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 509
AXIE INFINITY IS THE BEST!
April 21, 2019, 08:26:06 AM
For those who asking about post count that didn't tally with your current post count, try to change your forum timezone to (-3) Brazil Time. YoBit exchange uses Brazil timezone on that signature campaign symtem.
You can change your forum timezone here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=account;sa=theme
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
We are Bitcoin!
April 21, 2019, 08:01:34 AM
Good morning DarkStar_. Just woke up and I have time to exchange words. Sorry about the last night it was getting very late.

@mdayonliner I'm offering on option for current ChipMixer participants to either stay with the current pay scheme (0.00075 BTC/post, max 50) or switch to your proposed scheme that will cause a lot of people to switch (0.0003 BTC/post, max 140). That way we don't need to worry about YoBit doing anything, people don't have to promote a shady exchange. There are stricter terms, but at least it exists Tongue

(on a semi-unrelated point, I am wearing the ChipMixer signature for free)
This is what you are saying (correct me if I am wrong)...

- The current pay rate still exists for ChipMixer
- Additional option: Members can switch to a new ChipMixer rule which will pay for 140 posts a week at a rate of 0.0003 BTC/post

Let me be honest here. ChipMixer already built a good reputation here, thanks to you and their management. If indeed there is an option then for a candidate, here are several things to consider before picking a choice.

# Am I a heavy poster?
# If I am a heavy poster and easily comes up with making over 140+ posts per week then will I be okay with getting 0.00075/post for 50 or 0.0003/post for upto 140? The 2nd one gives me higher amount in total but pay rate is less than half per post compare to the first one.

# If I am not a heavy poster who can not even make 50 posts per week then shifting to the 2nd option is non-sense. Those users will not consider the 2nd option.

The bet I was talking is in between two different specific campaigns. ChipMixer and Yobit.
ChipMixer will pay 0.0003 per post for up to 140 posts a week
YoBit will pay 0.0003 per post for up to 140 posts a week.

It's no brainier that people will be more attracted to YoBit campaign simply because of the easier terms.  Now, about the post quality it really depends on the individual.
Me for example: I could post 5 or more posts or may be more than that instead constructing a post here which actually brings some value to the forum. Mind it posting this time consuming post is not paying me more, in fact if I would make 5 posts using the same time then I could get 5x the payment. So yeah, it comes down to the individual when it comes to post quality.

It's very simple that we can not bet in the two different campaign option because of the limitations I have explained in one of my last post.

~

edit: if we do bet, I'm not asking for a lot. Maybe something like 0.01BTC donated to the winner's choice of charity? I'm not rich either  Tongue
Really!
I thought you are filthy rich but looks like your situation is 10 times down than me  Tongue


~
AdolfinWolf mate you surely have beef against me and you are using it to gain something for sure. You know for sure that I am an easy leverage for you.


So is this user just acting like a moderator all of a sudden for the heck of it  Roll Eyes?

Just because I left posting in meta and reputation does not mean that I do not read the dramas there.

By the way, I see you are trying very hard. Yobit Scam Accusation megathread. "Normal" modus operandi or shady practices?
Where were you when I was creating a slimier topic against CloudBet. What happen if anyone endorse Cloudbet?  That time everyone was not sure about the movement of CloudBet.

Oh yeh, (may be) I know the reason. You knew that you have to talk against your God Father(s) who give you their ass when needed so that you can lick them. Pathetic moron.
sr. member
Activity: 1176
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April 21, 2019, 07:05:23 AM
Hello everyone, is this avatar suitable for use by YoBit signature Campaign participants ?
I made it so that the profile looks interesting. Wink




Signature Campaign without avatar!!! yes i agree with you skarais, and it is Is important for better advertise
you can add avatar yobit to your bitcointalk account
link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yobitnet-signature-campaign-realtime-payouts-daily-1036113

legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1622
April 21, 2019, 04:41:44 AM
Some reasonable observation that really make so much sense to those who cares to read, i also thought the criticisms where looking more personal than just the normal protecting the interest of the forum, as has been stressed a thousand times, anyone found post spamming should be reported to the mod to take appropriate action, rather than this back and forth bashing of almost all participants of this campaign,

everyone has the right and the freedom to make their own decisions which include participating in any campaign that they feel comfortable with or for whatever reasons, people get scammed everyday not only by yobit but also from thousand of projects in this forum yet i don't see an army of the forum protectors coming to the rescue of the victims, anyways, i think the yobit participants get it now, am sure many will definitely work hard in accordance with the forum rules and avoid spamming.

No my friend. Most of those poits are nonesens.

1. Most of those users who are posting against the campaign are doing so because their own campaigns are paying much lower than what Yobit does. To put it simply, due to jealousy.

I've switched to bestmixer yesterday when yobit was already announced. So i'm not the one sad kid who is earning less complaining that others are earning more. I've made decision when both jobs were available. But even if i was in bestmixer for few weeks. Switching to yobit takes like 15 min. Everyone can participate and everyone is taken with open hands. Even red trusted. Try to switch from yobit to bestmixer, chipmixer, bustadice, fortunejack where are 10+ application for every 1 free slot available.
None of us is jealousy.

2. Theymos has made it clear that unless Yobit violates the forum policies, neither the exchange or the users can be banned.

BTT is huge. It has to be responsible for every step it takes. That's why it looks like that. Not because yobit is 100% legit and worth to recommend.

3. Here the most heavy criticism is coming from those users who are themselves accused of borderline spamming.

Pure assumptions not based by anything.

4. In case you need to take action against this campaign, concentrate more on the quality of posts being made by the participants rather than blaming the campaign for being so generous.

Generous? Your campaing pays 60 cets per post. My 1,5$, bustadice up to 4$, Chipmixer 3,75$ (senior member), fortunejack 4$ (hero member). Your campaign is not generous.

5. From what I have noticed, the quality of posts being made by the participants of Yobit campaign so far has been much better than those made by other users (may be due to the ongoing controversy). There are some 10% spammers, but they are present everywhere.

Pure assumptions not based by anything.

 
hero member
Activity: 2562
Merit: 577
April 21, 2019, 04:00:05 AM
I am not a big fan of Yobit, and I have posted against this exchange earlier multiple times. That said, I need to point out a few things:

1. Most of those users who are posting against the campaign are doing so because their own campaigns are paying much lower than what Yobit does. To put it simply, due to jealousy.

2. Theymos has made it clear that unless Yobit violates the forum policies, neither the exchange or the users can be banned.

3. Here the most heavy criticism is coming from those users who are themselves accused of borderline spamming.

4. In case you need to take action against this campaign, concentrate more on the quality of posts being made by the participants rather than blaming the campaign for being so generous.

5. From what I have noticed, the quality of posts being made by the participants of Yobit campaign so far has been much better than those made by other users (may be due to the ongoing controversy). There are some 10% spammers, but they are present everywhere.



Some reasonable observation that really make so much sense to those who cares to read, i also thought the criticisms where looking more personal than just the normal protecting the interest of the forum, as has been stressed a thousand times, anyone found post spamming should be reported to the mod to take appropriate action, rather than this back and forth bashing of almost all participants of this campaign,

everyone has the right and the freedom to make their own decisions which include participating in any campaign that they feel comfortable with or for whatever reasons, people get scammed everyday not only by yobit but also from thousand of projects in this forum yet i don't see an army of the forum protectors coming to the rescue of the victims, anyways, i think the yobit participants get it now, am sure many will definitely work hard in accordance with the forum rules and avoid spamming.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1427
April 21, 2019, 03:51:45 AM

but you make it sound like those campaigning for yobit are doing things different from what you are doing - Hustling, it don't matter how hard you try to make it sound like ..... it is still hunting and you no different or better than all the rest hunters, no superiority here, i can only say jelousy, if that is not the case you would have let it be by now and leave the real mod to do their job Undecided

Because you leave all your morals at the door right the second you wear that yobit signature.

They have absolutely no respect for their customers, and are a border-line scam. Chipmixer on the other hand, isn’t.

Lol TryNinja

Money matters but also ethics matters too. Don't attack someone with the mistake they made.

You are saying to trust you coz I am sure you have control and faith over yourself so do I and in that case trust me, if (hypothetically) I would get that 21 20 BTC escrow offer accepted then I would keep my words. I am a man of strong ethics. The Hilary shit knows nothing about me.

If money does not matter then wear chipmixer signature without getting paid. How long you can wear it without getting paid?
You really have no place speaking about ethics when you're wearing a yobit signature...



Trust me I used to care a lot for the forum but I do now is zero. It happens when some dipshit will destroy your worth and you can not do anything about it because they have influence in the community.
And this is your way of sticking it to the forum? Promoting yobit? What happend to you reporting all those ICO scams? You know Yobit is the biggest fraud of them all when it comes to launching bullshit ICO's/IEO's (those don't even have project teams, they don't even exist), sure you must know that right?

You have "ethics" only when it matters for your personal gain... .(...)


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49672138
My questions to the community:
1. Should we individuals in Bitcointalk still endorse / recommend / advertise cloudbet?
2. What happen if anyone endorse / recommend / advertise cloudbet?




I hope he will update his topic or completely remove any recommendation for cloudbet.

Hhampuz - I guess already done.

hilariousandco - Is he just ignoring everything? I still see his endorsement in his topic. As a global moderator that's something very wrong.

You can make the exact same post as above about Yobit, with the tons and tons of scam accusations alone against them. I guess you won't because... you're getting paid by them?  Roll Eyes

Isn't it time for us to inform everyone (if needed then PM) and ask them to stop promoting/endorsing cloudbet? I have seen in the past when we smell anything wrong then DTs stepped forward and warned the users. If they denied then they tagged them.
Ironic...



<..snip..>
Again no, I would not. The worse case could be like ARBITAO, without prior knowledge I may join but then when I will be well aware of the scam and if I know that the account got hacked then I will leave the campaign without even informing the yahoo account owner (the hacked owner). And if I know for certain that yahoo account indeed is yahoo's then again I will inform him that I am going to leave his campaign after x amount of time or immediately. All depends on the situation.

<..snip..>
Like I said earlier, I do not want to be a part of any controversy, negative vibe where I do not feel 100% ok.

Being a part of any signature campaigning is a commitment to the manager, from that perspective I was committed to yahoo62278 as I was doing his job. Once I got confirmed decision from yahoo62278 then there were no reason for me not to leave the campaign.

I mean.. Surely you must be aware of all the scam accusations against Yobit, and you're still feeling 100% ok promoting them?
Okay then...
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1008
April 21, 2019, 02:29:54 AM
I am not a big fan of Yobit, and I have posted against this exchange earlier multiple times. That said, I need to point out a few things:

1. Most of those users who are posting against the campaign are doing so because their own campaigns are paying much lower than what Yobit does. To put it simply, due to jealousy.

2. Theymos has made it clear that unless Yobit violates the forum policies, neither the exchange or the users can be banned.

3. Here the most heavy criticism is coming from those users who are themselves accused of borderline spamming.

4. In case you need to take action against this campaign, concentrate more on the quality of posts being made by the participants rather than blaming the campaign for being so generous.

5. From what I have noticed, the quality of posts being made by the participants of Yobit campaign so far has been much better than those made by other users (may be due to the ongoing controversy). There are some 10% spammers, but they are present everywhere.

hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 509
AXIE INFINITY IS THE BEST!
April 21, 2019, 02:26:36 AM
Unfortunately huge yobit spam started:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dimondimon-969946 20 one-liners
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/aioc-842046 hero member
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mitchr4-355816 - legendary member. 14 one-liners but he is just getting started. I've seen his "pseudo good posts multiple" times.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/susilabai-550307 hero member 10 one-liners today
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bonker-19075 hero member 20 one-liners since yesterday
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gabmen-819237 hero member 20 yesterday and 2 today
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sixoffive-307784 senior 4 posts but they are not even one-liners thats one-sentence
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/aysg76-809633 hero member 20
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/senne-196616 senior - 14
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/carlisle1-826292 hero 20+
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/senne-196616 hero 15

And the winner is...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fortify-339270 LEGENDARY ... 40 ONE LINERS WITH 130 TRUST

-snip-

Looks like I'm the only one you didn't put on your list. Anyway. In some point, this is really considered spamming and candidate for a temporary ban as stated below.

Campaign Participants:

Staff do not want to hand out bans for unconstructive posts but if we feel that you as a user are continually making very poor or unsubstantial posts due to your paid signature the following bans will be issued:

First offence: 7 days
Second offence: 14 days
Third offence: 30 days
Fourth: Permanent ban

Campaign Operators:

If you are running a campaign and it becomes blatantly obvious to Staff that you are doing little to nothing to stop spam on your campaign you will be issued a PM warning by a Global Moderator that you need to make immediate improvements to curb low-quality posts. You will have 7 days to remove low-quality posters and respond to the message detailing what you are going to do to make changes to your campaign to reduce the amount of spam. If improvements are not noticeable within 21 days of that and Staff do not believe you are doing enough to prevent low quality posts your signatures will be blacklisted from the forum by an Admin and you will no longer be permitted to advertise here in such a way.
hero member
Activity: 2926
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No dream is too big and no dreamer is too small
April 21, 2019, 01:49:11 AM
Read discussion between darkstar and mdayonliner.

Chipmixer will not be coming to promote a exchange like "Yobit".
None of the  current Yobit signature holder will ever close to be for consideration in chipmixer .(forget about the acceptance.)
They know the standard of Chipmixer campaign, there is an application but in yobit it's all automatic, you are accepted even if you are a spammer.
I just hope that there are really people in the yobit side that will monitor members post quality, so they can remove those who are caught spamming just to reach the 20 max per day.
hero member
Activity: 1438
Merit: 574
Always ask questions. #StandWithHongKong
April 20, 2019, 07:03:24 PM
What a great thread - it makes tagging scam promoters so much easier when they are all in one convenient, handy list......
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 611
April 20, 2019, 06:25:14 PM
Guys, are you really sure that it makes any sense to continue the discussion on this thread?

I think that all the important facts have been already presented and further discussion here leads us completly nowhere. I counted that on 220 posts written in this topic over 140 are with the yobit signature. What does it mean? In my opinion, only one thing - while continuing the discussion here, we only help the yobitters to keep their daily pool of 20 paid posts.

Therefore, the only explanation for continuing discussions in this topic is trying to stop the yobitters here (in this thread) and not let them to spread to the rest of the forum (what's of unfortunately impossible), otherwise the only sensible solution is to stop the discussion in this thread at this point.




[edit:]

I'm starting to get more and more afraid - one of the yobitters attacked me at the Polish local board:


...
I post where I want when I want and with who I want. You have a problem with that?
I don't need the opinion of a noob from 2018 (you entered just for the krach?  Roll Eyes) with only 900posts and 300merits.
nazdrowie
...

Did you find any criticism of your behavior in my post? The title of this thread is "The King of the forum", so you should be glad that I nominated you as a candidate. What's more, I also noticed how easy you create the content - nearly 50 posts in 24 hours is a great result - even the biggest stars of this forum with the chipmixer logo in their signatures have a problem with writing so many posts throughout the week and you show them that you are doing It's easy in only 1 day. You are the best!!!

In addition, you are very perceptive !!! You noticed that I have actually been on bitcointalk since january 2018 and you've been here for the whole 8 months before me - Wow you're a real veteran (probably with such an experience you're already at least Theymos' advisor).

You also noted that I wrote only 900 posts when you have over 4.000 posts on your account (what's more - some of them even have more than three lines - wow !!!). In addition, I made only 362 merits writing 924 posts and you from the moment when I registered - you wrote whole 2.402 posts and you earned.... 274 merits. It means that you earn 1 merit on 8.76 posts you wrote and I earn 1 merit on 2,55 post..... (but it's only a little more than 3 times better result) But do not worry it does not mean anything - you are still my hero !!!!

na zdrowie

hero member
Activity: 1659
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LoyceV on the road. Or couch.
April 20, 2019, 06:08:52 PM
I'm not even sure LoyceV would take it. They'd have to average 125 to reach the current payout for 50, and based off of historical records, they post about 90-120 times a week.
Lol no thanks, I shouldn't spend more time here than I do already.
Maggiordomo would make it to 140 per week.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 6403
Blackjack.fun
April 20, 2019, 06:04:57 PM
I will offer 0.0003 BTC/post with max 140 posts a week for an indefinite period of time to all current ChipMixer participants. We are paying the 101th week later today.

Would you like to bet that no one will switch? Keep in mind that you said a lot will switch.

I'd rather stop wearing a signature than joining yobit.
And leaving ChipMixer to join a herd, flock, pack whatever of spammers?
Yobit would have to pay me a shame bonus first  Grin Grin

Besides looking at the spreadsheet I see only 10-15 members doing more than 50 posts a week, so for many the yobit offer wouldn't make sense even if we talk finnacialy

Would be interesting to see an average merit earned comparison between the two campaigns
I have a feeling only alone Loycev has more than their entire army.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
April 20, 2019, 05:50:16 PM
I will offer 0.0003 BTC/post with max 140 posts a week for an indefinite period of time to all current ChipMixer participants. We are paying the 101th week later today.

Would you like to bet that no one will switch? Keep in mind that you said a lot will switch.
Ok, no problem. I will have to move from 9 posts this week to 140 posts next week. I have bought myself a new keyboard with words instead of letters on it so ti shouldn't be a problem. And it beeps when post hits 100 characters  Tongue
copper member
Activity: 1442
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April 20, 2019, 05:46:30 PM
Mday... come on man. You know that most of the people raising a stink about Yobit are doing so from experience. It's not like this was some small launch in the traditional fashion with weekly terms. They essentially handed over the coinpurse and said blanket the forum. Not all members wearing the Sig are going to do that, but you know there are a tremendous amount of opportunistic people out there who don't care what they type. Already seen a few doozies. Given what I've seen so far about the service they've offered I can see why people were aprehensive.


In a hurry now to go to bed.

Trust me I used to care a lot for the forum but I do now is zero. It happens when some dipshit will destroy your worth and you can not do anything about it because they have influence in the community.

It's clear to me that mod like hilariousandco are poison for this forum. And sadly when hilariousandco will say something everyone will buy it. Like they bought all those mday == other guys.

@Dark, I saw your last post. I will response tomorrow. I really gotta go now.

PS: It was nice to exchange words to you fellas. Miss my old day. Good night.

I think that Chipmixer is the best campaign right now that Darkstar is managing great, what I don't like is that all DT are in there, to me it simply look suspicious that all DT members want to stay in that campaign when there are other better campaigns in terms of payrate  out there and paying.
Idiots like Lauda and his gang of asslicking assholes,this group is the real poison to the forum and the point is , the end result that fewer and fewer people are interested in Bitcointalk, me being the first not giving a fuck about anything here anymore as no matter what you do, no matter that you say that you have not used multiaccounts and abandoned all of them,you use only one account, harshness and hostility is all over you. This means no decentralization at all, people are not given second chances.
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