Topic: Yobit.net signature campaign - page 42. (Read 44479 times)

I don't think this was a rhetorical question, although it feels like you gave the answer already:
I'll answer anyway: the main difference is that users can start getting paid before having their post history checked. I think that's similar to most bounty campaigns that pay in Tokens (created out of thin air and therefore don't cost the campaign anything), but the bounty spam is more or less limited to the Altcoin boards. Yobit is all over the forum.
And that's probably why theymos banned the campaign last time, while other campaigns don't get banned.
If this campaign runs long-term, I expect many dormant accounts to wake up, make 20 posts while you're sleeping, and get paid before you wake up to ban them. The next day they'll use their next account.

My suggestion would be to stop accepting everyone (and subsequently blacklisting the spammers), and switch to the system most Bitcoin paying campaigns use: only accept people after reviewing their post history. Or as I've suggested to Yobit before: if they really insist on automated enrollment: add at least an earned Merit requirement. That would instantly disqualify most inactive and many spamming accounts.

what i did , was within the rules ...i shall copy past e the rules here :

I check the OP but it seems like that rule is not exist, I'm familiar of the old rule and there's no major change in this campaign, except that there's already a manager who oversee this campaign.

Every participant can freely participate in this campaign if their rank allowed to wear those signatures. Most of the users that woke up after a long period of time cannot participate in this campaign because there was a rule saying "a user that hasn't posted for a month will also be removed.

What I meant is because of this signature campaign many accounts with red flag will awoke from a long period of inactivity just to join in this signature campaign. By the way, I'll help also in reporting for those who spam just to get paid.

Registration in the exchange was turned off, I'm glad I have my account there.  Very unusual for there will be no new traders coming in.


Unless they are going to promote the cryptotalk forum willingly without pay, they can use it. A lot had joined the campaign, once I'm done with my current campaign I might just also be in this campaign.

Are you sure they're still in? Report them to me and I'll take a look. I have a thread in reputation section showing quite a few nuked with neg rep. Just because i ban them, does not mean they immediately remove their signature.

I don't know why there's still accepting with negative trust to join in the campaign? Recently there are accounts with red flags just awaken from a long activity due to this signature campaign.

There are some old threads in different boards that are resurfacing. Thanks to the digging of some accounts wearing cryptotalk signatures. It must be hard to complete the 20 maximum posts per day without having to post on heavily spammed old topics.

You should've done that before you got banned and you should know that post bursting isn't allowed in every signature campaign. You should know better than me because you're an older account and higher rank than myself anyway, good luck convincing yahoo to remove you in blacklist and there a chance that yahoo will include you to his SMAS blacklist and you'll not able to join in other signature campaigns that yahoo manages but i suggest that don't try it his words are already final.


Well that campaign was handled by hilariousandco and he was strict when it comes to post quality he immeadiately removes 1 liner and unsubstantial posters everyday but the amount of participants that was so many even himself can't handle it but now since yahoo with the help of spam busters and the fact that this campaign accepts senior member and above i think this campaign will do just fine

I don't think yobit will still go back tot heir old rules when they started the campaign in the forum.
IIRC, they allow all members to join even jr. member then eventually stick to member up...

This is the old campaign (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yobitnet-signature-campaign-realtime-payouts-daily-1036113), was launch last April 2015, and i think there's a reason why they only accept sr up now, and for sure this is for the good of the campaign.

Yobit does accept just about anybody in the campaign unlike the ones asking to post in gambling section. Not everyone is a gambler so most will just post everywhere and this campaign is just perfect for them. The campaign manager also in most gambling projects just asks few users, its not surprising they will be moving in cryptotalk campaign.

I do not agree with your opinion. The forum has a tree structure and topics are its branches. There are no large trees with only small branches, and bitcointalk is a very large tree. Truth is not a nut, you cannot just crack it and say - I took out the core, the job is done.

Yobit campaign has a history of long term campaign, the last one was just stopped because there was as signature ban.
This time around they are advertising a forum but once they are done doing that, they might also shift to advertise their own exchange which is yobit, with the same participants, rules, and etc.. that's my opinion , so this will last longer.

I'm also observing this campaign, I am part of the last campaign but I want to see if the campaign is going to be for the long term the first one is the longest campaign, and with a good manager on board I'm hoping that things will turn out good and you are right there's a possibility that they are going to change the rate and limit the post and maybe add lower rank members like Full Member, let's see.

Yahoo isn't the one who decide that. He is ONLY maintaining the quality post from all Cryptotalk participants. If you are going to put the sig and registered as member rank, you will ended in yahoo's ban list on here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-of-banned-participants-in-the-cryptotalk-campaign-5188200

I agree with you but all I can do is make suggestions to the owners. Ultimately it is their decision on what to do with the limits.

While we are on the subject I would like to ask what is different about this campaign vs any other campaign being run on the forum? I know everyone is gonna say 20 posts per day cap, but if those participants are posting constructive replies(yes I know a lot aren't), if they're not breaking any other forum rules, and the campaign is paying how is it any different?

The whole forum cannot get their panties in a bunch just because they see a billion signatures from 1 company. The company is advertising their product plain and simple and have the budget to do so in a large scale. It's no different than if bitsler decided they wanted to spend 10 btc a month.

No, i'm not saying that all participants are following the rules. I am also not saying that 20 posts per day is awesome for the forum. I am just saying if users are staying within the boundaries of posting constructively and following the forums rules that everyone should chill a little. If you don't like seeing so many signatures then go into your account settings and disable signatures from being seen.

45 users have already been banned by me along with 8 warned for their posting habits. Trust me there are going to be many more banned and maybe a few more warned. In the last 3 days between pms and checking participants I have had 2 minutes of time to think. I still want everyone to keep reporting users to me if they are not being constructive or post bursting.

it's a big campaign and I appreciate all the help from everyone. You really do make it just a little bit easier for me and save myself a little hassle. All you reporters deserve a pat on the back for contributing.

Special thanks go out to Actmyname, Oasisman, o_e_l_e_o, Dhoe, Halab, boltz, DireWolfM14, LoyceV, suchmoon, TryNinja, hopenotlate, morvillz7z, Judge-Dredd, and anyone else I may have missed. All of these users have helped in 1 way or another and all the help I can get is much appreciated.

Again, i'm not trying to say hey everyone come spam the forum. I am working on removing the bad apples everyday. Not an easy task. Not everyone is happy about it but I cannot please everyone either.

Keep the reports coming, it really does help.

Again, to clarify...IMHO...it is the 20 posts a day x1 then x10 then x100 that will kill this campaign...if they limited it to say 25 posts per pay max per week...maybe

all would work out ...even if run through Yobit per se.

Again, it is the MATH...it is just gonna snowball ..and again...even if all posts would be legit the MATH above will be just too much for the Bitcointalk

OP's to put up with IMHO.

too bad, a say 25 post max per week and NON-gambling signature campaign might have worked with this...again...due to MATH above too big a splash

to survive..again, IMHO.

Brad

Will you mind making this campaign available to member accounts as well?

I am very pleased the campaign is back and I was pretty upset last time it was taken down due to people who spam endless senseless nonesense. For me being paid just encourages me to be more active. It gives me a good reward for my time since I can take part in a discussion such as this one and then still be paid on top of it. If I was not paid I would not spend 3-5 hours or so on the forum making the extra posts because there will be less to show for it and you need to have some time to work and make money. If you being paid you can afford to and justify yourself to spending more time on the forum. So I am not against an increase of posts.

What I am against is people who are selfish and actually don't deserve to be paid. What will they do with the money? They are not very clever either. If you post well and often you will be paid well and often for a long term.
If the pressure builds up so much in your mouth that you start spraying utter shit all over the place that is where the problem is. You are just posting solely on being paid and probably have little to no interest on anything.
I bet these spammers do not even hold much tokens or bitcoin or even believe in bitcoin. Paying them is pissing away good crypto. I myself invest my pay and thus I support the forum and put money back into the forum instead of just taking out only to dump for some useless fiat. Pisses me the hell off. Not only do spammers piss us off they ruin everything for the rest of us. They will eat till they pop today and starve for then next few weeks. Why rape something away with shit posts when you can make good posts and secure a long term payment. They so stupid they ruin it for themselves and that is really the true meaning of ultimate stupidity.

I was so annoyed and upset last time the campaign was taken down. I posted for nothing and I see my balance is cleared. Thank you, spammers, you took my bitcoin and my time. Total assholes. They feel nothing and care for noone and I am tired of it. A large part of the money I make comes from bounty hunting and basically spammers are cutting in on my profits over here. I see it as a personal attack.

I will just report to yahoo weekly when I see idiots spamming. I am not a nasty person or take any pleasure at all to see someone lose their earning potential but if you try take my earning potential from me by spamming like a clown then I will report you and you. I am going to be quite active due to this campaign and will take note of other participants. I will never report you if you do not spam. Even if you make 20 posts in a day thats fine. Maybe you spend the entire day online posting. That is your life and your choice and if that is what you want to do with your time then thats fine. Write your 20 posts a day and spend the day online just don't start posting just for the sake of meeting the quota. Be talkative and enjoy your time here with the other members. It actually isn't very hard.