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Quote from: michellee on April 27, 2021, 11:40:04 AM

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Those friend of us will also get tired if that person don't listen. We have our limitation and not all the time we're going to keep on reminding that person.
It's not our job to keep reminding them specially if we've been reminding them even before, so be it. If we stop reminding them, it's their problem anymore.

I guess not. The best friend can be tired but that does not mean they will stop remind us and take care of us. But we must realize by ourselves that we break our limit and make our best friend feel tired. If we can not have those feeling, our mind become hard like a rock. That means we are in a heavy addiction without having a chance to admit that we need help.
Maybe that is the last thing that we can do for them, and the rest will be up to them.

I don't know what to say if there are people like that that will care for you until the end even if you're too hard-headed and keep on ignoring their reminder.
Well, if you have that kind of friend, it's a gem.

Although I do not have people like that, I am sure that person really exists and really cares about his best friend and will do anything for the relationship. Yes, it is like we found a gem and we must not let that person go away from beside us. We really need a person like that to help each other because having a friend like that will be a blessing to us.

I thought that you have because you keep insisting that people shouldn't stop reminding someone to stop if they've been already reminded for a long time. There really are people that are existing like that but everyone has their own limitation and won't stay for that long.
That's the reality of life, they won't just stay for you because there are other things to focus with their time and attention.

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Quote from: tabas on April 27, 2021, 09:08:22 AM

Quote from: michellee on April 26, 2021, 10:47:30 PM

Quote from: tabas on April 26, 2021, 06:11:05 PM

Those friend of us will also get tired if that person don't listen. We have our limitation and not all the time we're going to keep on reminding that person.
It's not our job to keep reminding them specially if we've been reminding them even before, so be it. If we stop reminding them, it's their problem anymore.

I guess not. The best friend can be tired but that does not mean they will stop remind us and take care of us. But we must realize by ourselves that we break our limit and make our best friend feel tired. If we can not have those feeling, our mind become hard like a rock. That means we are in a heavy addiction without having a chance to admit that we need help.
Maybe that is the last thing that we can do for them, and the rest will be up to them.

I don't know what to say if there are people like that that will care for you until the end even if you're too hard-headed and keep on ignoring their reminder.
Well, if you have that kind of friend, it's a gem.

Although I do not have people like that, I am sure that person really exists and really cares about his best friend and will do anything for the relationship. Yes, it is like we found a gem and we must not let that person go away from beside us. We really need a person like that to help each other because having a friend like that will be a blessing to us.

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Quote from: Tomtomwole on April 26, 2021, 06:39:58 PM

you might need to work on your belief system because thats basically whats giving you more strength to continue it so you can recover your lost money. its like a chain, you cant win the addiction battle if you want to recover and having more hopes to win more and bigger. the more hope for recovery the more addicted you will be.

I don't really now think that it's about the money that people get hooked to it, it's about the unlimited power they feel they have over their fate and pocket, with a few bets they can make as much money they want and psychologically they make themselves feel richer with every win on strike, it's hard to go off such an adrenaline. It's more about people's need of getting a distraction from their in real life problems, which they must understand they should face and live a healthy life instead of trying to find an escape in activities like gambling which leads to loss of funds, health, adds more burden and hence should be avoided at all costs!

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Quote from: michellee on April 26, 2021, 10:47:30 PM

Quote from: tabas on April 26, 2021, 06:11:05 PM

Those friend of us will also get tired if that person don't listen. We have our limitation and not all the time we're going to keep on reminding that person.
It's not our job to keep reminding them specially if we've been reminding them even before, so be it. If we stop reminding them, it's their problem anymore.

I guess not. The best friend can be tired but that does not mean they will stop remind us and take care of us. But we must realize by ourselves that we break our limit and make our best friend feel tired. If we can not have those feeling, our mind become hard like a rock. That means we are in a heavy addiction without having a chance to admit that we need help.
Maybe that is the last thing that we can do for them, and the rest will be up to them.

I don't know what to say if there are people like that that will care for you until the end even if you're too hard-headed and keep on ignoring their reminder.
Well, if you have that kind of friend, it's a gem.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 26, 2021, 10:38:37 PM

What I did when I'm losing money when I'm still gambling is that, before I start I always put in my mind that whenever I lose I will not try to recover my lost money.

Sometimes it will depend on your mindset, how can you control yourself and your strategies and plans. If you lose, don't ever try to recover it because most of the time you will end up losing more money and not only that the addiction will becoming higher. For me, I believe that when I gamble I will always lose so maybe that also helped me in a way not to gamble again and recover the losses I have.

Chasing after your losses will be the worst strategy to follow when you are gambling. It never works and in the end it will leave you in financial ruin. IMO, the best thing to do when you are losing continuously is to take a break, and admit that it simply isn't your lucky day. If you are losing on a continuous basis and still continuing with the game, then you will end up in a very difficult position. If you want to chase your losses, then do it the next day, and not on the same day.

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Quote from: tabas on April 26, 2021, 06:11:05 PM

Quote from: michellee on April 26, 2021, 03:18:19 AM

Quote from: tabas on April 25, 2021, 07:09:24 PM

It's not the responsibility of the other to keep reminding the other gamblers that have been found to be addicted. They're not in the position to tell continuously and care for you all of the time.
They're also getting tired if the person they're reminding doesn't stop.

If you have a good friend and are close and always beside you, they will always remind us not to play gambling regularly because of the risk inside gambling. Although that is not their responsibility, they can still do that because we are best friends and best friends will do anything for their best friend.

But related to gambling, maybe that will difficult for that gambler to listen to others, but I am sure his best friend will not stop to remind him. It is good if we have a friend like that.

Those friend of us will also get tired if that person don't listen. We have our limitation and not all the time we're going to keep on reminding that person.
It's not our job to keep reminding them specially if we've been reminding them even before, so be it. If we stop reminding them, it's their problem anymore.

I guess not. The best friend can be tired but that does not mean they will stop remind us and take care of us. But we must realize by ourselves that we break our limit and make our best friend feel tired. If we can not have those feeling, our mind become hard like a rock. That means we are in a heavy addiction without having a chance to admit that we need help.
Maybe that is the last thing that we can do for them, and the rest will be up to them.

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Quote from: Tomtomwole on April 26, 2021, 06:39:58 PM

you might need to work on your belief system because thats basically whats giving you more strength to continue it so you can recover your lost money. its like a chain, you cant win the addiction battle if you want to recover and having more hopes to win more and bigger. the more hope for recovery the more addicted you will be.

What I did when I'm losing money when I'm still gambling is that, before I start I always put in my mind that whenever I lose I will not try to recover my lost money.

Sometimes it will depend on your mindset, how can you control yourself and your strategies and plans. If you lose, don't ever try to recover it because most of the time you will end up losing more money and not only that the addiction will becoming higher. For me, I believe that when I gamble I will always lose so maybe that also helped me in a way not to gamble again and recover the losses I have.

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Losing is not the biggest problem if you lose while betting smaller then when you win, I always think the best gamblers manage their money to accumulate wins into streaks. So if you can stay regular rather then chasing wins you will not end up with a bad game strategy, thats probably the most common mistake any person can make. The simple way to start into this frame of mind is write down your reasonable hours of gaming and keep to them, dont extend past them win or lose you are just a player between those hours and then let yourself off the hook when the time is up. Learn to appreciate the game not just the money won, this will make you a better player in the end. Bad habits can occur anywhere so reset your behaviour, avoid being tired if you are trying to learn a new game or play differently and come back another day or week however long it takes for you to feel comfortable.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on April 26, 2021, 06:16:19 PM

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Quote from: michellee on April 26, 2021, 03:18:19 AM

Quote from: tabas on April 25, 2021, 07:09:24 PM

It's not the responsibility of the other to keep reminding the other gamblers that have been found to be addicted. They're not in the position to tell continuously and care for you all of the time.
They're also getting tired if the person they're reminding doesn't stop.

If you have a good friend and are close and always beside you, they will always remind us not to play gambling regularly because of the risk inside gambling. Although that is not their responsibility, they can still do that because we are best friends and best friends will do anything for their best friend.

But related to gambling, maybe that will difficult for that gambler to listen to others, but I am sure his best friend will not stop to remind him. It is good if we have a friend like that.

Those friend of us will also get tired if that person don't listen. We have our limitation and not all the time we're going to keep on reminding that person.
It's not our job to keep reminding them specially if we've been reminding them even before, so be it. If we stop reminding them, it's their problem anymore.

Yes I agree with you, we can't change people, it's even difficult to change yourself so why we should try to change other people?

That's right. We showed care for the others but if they keep rejecting us, there's no way to push yourself to them. What's done is done and that should be enough care that you've shown for them.
Let them be what they want to do and do things that you want to do.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on April 26, 2021, 06:40:24 PM

Quote from: markk1 on April 09, 2021, 12:10:30 PM

Hello to all! Another topic about casinos and games. I started playing at the Stake.com quite often. At the very beginning I thought I would just play in the evening, but one evening turned into a constant game during the day. On the first deposit, I was lucky and I took out a little, it was x3 of my deposit and I was happy. Recently, I just started making stupid deposits and trying to win something and I understand that this is self-deception, but I cannot stop and make more and more deposits. I decided to make the 1st level of VIP, but for this I need to make a turnover of 10k dollars, but I am a player with low stakes and this is difficult for me to do. You seem to understand everything that you will lose, but you go to play again. How to get rid of gambling addiction?

The urge is overtaking your self-control and this is bad and a sign that you are out of your control and you can make a lot of bad decisions and you already are making bad decisions now, but since you admit that you are doing it all wrong and asked a question how to get rid of it, you wanted to be out of your urge to continue gambling this way.
the only people that can help you is your family and a consultation with a professional, there are also a lot of anonymous group that deals with gambling they too can offer a big help for you to recover.

I don't think family can really help gambling addicts because if they were able to do it the gambler would have never become addict before. Usually family monitoring just leads to hidden behaviors and lies, it hardly prevents this kind of things to happen or to continue.

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Quote from: markk1 on April 09, 2021, 12:10:30 PM

Hello to all! Another topic about casinos and games. I started playing at the Stake.com quite often. At the very beginning I thought I would just play in the evening, but one evening turned into a constant game during the day. On the first deposit, I was lucky and I took out a little, it was x3 of my deposit and I was happy. Recently, I just started making stupid deposits and trying to win something and I understand that this is self-deception, but I cannot stop and make more and more deposits. I decided to make the 1st level of VIP, but for this I need to make a turnover of 10k dollars, but I am a player with low stakes and this is difficult for me to do. You seem to understand everything that you will lose, but you go to play again. How to get rid of gambling addiction?

The urge is overtaking your self-control and this is bad and a sign that you are out of your control and you can make a lot of bad decisions and you already are making bad decisions now, but since you admit that you are doing it all wrong and asked a question how to get rid of it, you wanted to be out of your urge to continue gambling this way.
the only people that can help you is your family and a consultation with a professional, there are also a lot of anonymous group that deals with gambling they too can offer a big help for you to recover.

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you might need to work on your belief system because thats basically whats giving you more strength to continue it so you can recover your lost money. its like a chain, you cant win the addiction battle if you want to recover and having more hopes to win more and bigger. the more hope for recovery the more addicted you will be.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on April 26, 2021, 06:16:19 PM

Quote from: tabas on April 26, 2021, 06:11:05 PM

Quote from: michellee on April 26, 2021, 03:18:19 AM

Quote from: tabas on April 25, 2021, 07:09:24 PM

It's not the responsibility of the other to keep reminding the other gamblers that have been found to be addicted. They're not in the position to tell continuously and care for you all of the time.
They're also getting tired if the person they're reminding doesn't stop.

If you have a good friend and are close and always beside you, they will always remind us not to play gambling regularly because of the risk inside gambling. Although that is not their responsibility, they can still do that because we are best friends and best friends will do anything for their best friend.

But related to gambling, maybe that will difficult for that gambler to listen to others, but I am sure his best friend will not stop to remind him. It is good if we have a friend like that.

Those friend of us will also get tired if that person don't listen. We have our limitation and not all the time we're going to keep on reminding that person.
It's not our job to keep reminding them specially if we've been reminding them even before, so be it. If we stop reminding them, it's their problem anymore.

Yes I agree with you, we can't change people, it's even difficult to change yourself so why we should try to change other people?

A show of concern because there are people who are really that mindful on telling other people or giving out some advise for their good but for me i wont really be tending
to tell nor dictate others on how they do deal up with their decisions in life.Its their choice and we do have our own will on what are the things we should do
unless if you are close to me neither my friend or part of the family then i might really be giving out some words.Its up to them if they would accept or would
just simply ignore and proceed on.

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Quote from: tabas on April 26, 2021, 06:11:05 PM

Quote from: michellee on April 26, 2021, 03:18:19 AM

Quote from: tabas on April 25, 2021, 07:09:24 PM

It's not the responsibility of the other to keep reminding the other gamblers that have been found to be addicted. They're not in the position to tell continuously and care for you all of the time.
They're also getting tired if the person they're reminding doesn't stop.

If you have a good friend and are close and always beside you, they will always remind us not to play gambling regularly because of the risk inside gambling. Although that is not their responsibility, they can still do that because we are best friends and best friends will do anything for their best friend.

But related to gambling, maybe that will difficult for that gambler to listen to others, but I am sure his best friend will not stop to remind him. It is good if we have a friend like that.

Those friend of us will also get tired if that person don't listen. We have our limitation and not all the time we're going to keep on reminding that person.
It's not our job to keep reminding them specially if we've been reminding them even before, so be it. If we stop reminding them, it's their problem anymore.

Yes I agree with you, we can't change people, it's even difficult to change ourselves so why we should try to change other people? It's a losing game most of the time, only will from the person could change him, we can only help him and accompany him in his journey but not changing him against his own will.

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Quote from: michellee on April 26, 2021, 03:18:19 AM

Quote from: tabas on April 25, 2021, 07:09:24 PM

It's not the responsibility of the other to keep reminding the other gamblers that have been found to be addicted. They're not in the position to tell continuously and care for you all of the time.
They're also getting tired if the person they're reminding doesn't stop.

If you have a good friend and are close and always beside you, they will always remind us not to play gambling regularly because of the risk inside gambling. Although that is not their responsibility, they can still do that because we are best friends and best friends will do anything for their best friend.

But related to gambling, maybe that will difficult for that gambler to listen to others, but I am sure his best friend will not stop to remind him. It is good if we have a friend like that.

Those friend of us will also get tired if that person don't listen. We have our limitation and not all the time we're going to keep on reminding that person.
It's not our job to keep reminding them specially if we've been reminding them even before, so be it. If we stop reminding them, it's their problem anymore.

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Quote from: tabas on April 25, 2021, 07:09:24 PM

Quote from: michellee on April 25, 2021, 07:51:06 AM

Quote from: tabas on April 25, 2021, 07:15:36 AM

We're blind to look at ourselves if we're about to become addicted. We're excited and we don't care about the surroundings and what's matter to us is that we're enjoying and we keep doing what we want to do and just as the other reasons of addicted gamblers, they wouldn't care what others will say to them as long as they're pushing what they think is right and what they like to do.

We are excited to play gambling, so we do not want to listen to others and think that they are talking too much about us. But if they care for us, they will not stop to tell us to stop and get out of the place.

It's not the responsibility of the other to keep reminding the other gamblers that have been found to be addicted. They're not in the position to tell continuously and care for you all of the time.
They're also getting tired if the person they're reminding doesn't stop.

If you have a good friend and are close and always beside you, they will always remind us not to play gambling regularly because of the risk inside gambling. Although that is not their responsibility, they can still do that because we are best friends and best friends will do anything for their best friend.

But related to gambling, maybe that will difficult for that gambler to listen to others, but I am sure his best friend will not stop to remind him. It is good if we have a friend like that.

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Quote from: tabas on April 25, 2021, 07:09:24 PM

Quote from: michellee on April 25, 2021, 07:51:06 AM

Quote from: tabas on April 25, 2021, 07:15:36 AM

We're blind to look at ourselves if we're about to become addicted. We're excited and we don't care about the surroundings and what's matter to us is that we're enjoying and we keep doing what we want to do and just as the other reasons of addicted gamblers, they wouldn't care what others will say to them as long as they're pushing what they think is right and what they like to do.

We are excited to play gambling, so we do not want to listen to others and think that they are talking too much about us. But if they care for us, they will not stop to tell us to stop and get out of the place.

It's not the responsibility of the other to keep reminding the other gamblers that have been found to be addicted. They're not in the position to tell continuously and care for you all of the time.
They're also getting tired if the person they're reminding doesn't stop.

Doesn't matter how many advices are given, at the end of the day the decision to stop playing is totally up to the individual. Only the addicted gambler can take a new direction on this life through his free will. Once this happens, then all the help others could do is welcome and worthful. But if the first step isn't taken by the gambler and he keeps obsessed for the game, no one can stop and preventing him from gambling.
And of course, he can't blame the lack of advices and help from others for his own mistakes.

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Quote from: michellee on April 25, 2021, 07:51:06 AM

Quote from: tabas on April 25, 2021, 07:15:36 AM

We're blind to look at ourselves if we're about to become addicted. We're excited and we don't care about the surroundings and what's matter to us is that we're enjoying and we keep doing what we want to do and just as the other reasons of addicted gamblers, they wouldn't care what others will say to them as long as they're pushing what they think is right and what they like to do.

We are excited to play gambling, so we do not want to listen to others and think that they are talking too much about us. But if they care for us, they will not stop to tell us to stop and get out of the place.

It's not the responsibility of the other to keep reminding the other gamblers that have been found to be addicted. They're not in the position to tell continuously and care for you all of the time.
They're also getting tired if the person they're reminding doesn't stop.

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If you want to start gambling or betting or whatever game where real money is involved then what you need most is self discipline. Only use money that you can afford to lose. Let's say you have 200$ that you don't need and you want to try some sports betting with it. You picked your favorite teams but you were unlucky and despite good odds you lost your bets and the money is gone. The worst thing you can do now is to try to make up for that loss by risking more money with the next bet, because you may lose this too and maybe that was already money that you actually needed for you daily needs and is now missing.
So never get carried away. If your budget is gone, wait until you have some spare money again until you place your next bet or you will end up like those sad old dudes that are sitting in front of the gambling machines in the gas stations the whole day long.

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Quote from: markk1 on April 09, 2021, 12:10:30 PM

Hello to all! Another topic about casinos and games. I started playing at the Stake.com quite often. At the very beginning I thought I would just play in the evening, but one evening turned into a constant game during the day. On the first deposit, I was lucky and I took out a little, it was x3 of my deposit and I was happy. Recently, I just started making stupid deposits and trying to win something and I understand that this is self-deception, but I cannot stop and make more and more deposits. I decided to make the 1st level of VIP, but for this I need to make a turnover of 10k dollars, but I am a player with low stakes and this is difficult for me to do. You seem to understand everything that you will lose, but you go to play again. How to get rid of gambling addiction?

Set your limit then follow the limit no matter how hard it is. In that case, you have control. Consider yourself lucky already when you win. On the stated situation when you win x3 of your deposit, it makes you hype that you can do the same thing or you can win again and with that you keep on making deposit even though you have consecutive losses. You let your emotions drive you which is not a good practice at all. Aside from setting limit, try to remind yourself the real "value" of money nowadays. It is very hard to earn money as well as the expenses on everyday living. Gambling will be still gambling even you play or not, even you win or lose.

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