Lets speculate on when the EPIC DUMP hits. 
Waiting to dump/short something that does not even exist yet. Not a promising expected start I would say.
However from past experience the opposite of what the majority expects happens.
Topic: [ZEC] Zcash Speculation - page 27. (Read 54086 times)
Waiting to dump/short something that does not even exist yet. Not a promising expected start I would say.
However from past experience the opposite of what the majority expects happens.
Zcash now is the center of attention, a lot of members want to buy, but I wonder if they will buy for 0.2BTC, it is very expencive, but I think it will drop when miners start to work, I won't buy immediately, from other hand I watched an advertisment today on coinmarketcap for KOMODO platform, they are marketing themselves as a fork of Zcash, is there any relation or just they share the same anonymity feature?
It seems that ZEC integration with exchanges should be fairly straightforward since Zcash is fully based on Bitcoin. What will be interesting is when the exchanges support creating 'shielded' withdrawal transactions. If it takes a server 4GB of memory + 60 seconds of compute time on 4+ cores then the ability to do lots of shielded withdrawals is going to be very resource intensive. Someone has to pay for those resources, so I imagine that shielded withdrawal fees would be significant.
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Addresses: Zcash has two kinds of address: a z-addr is a fully private address that uses the zero-knowledge proving system to shield a transaction and balance privacy. A t-addr (aka "transparent address") is similar to a Bitcoin address.
guess which exchanges will use?
glorified Bitcoin fork with Zerocoin sidechain.
example of common transaction: https://explorer.zcha.in/transactions/0fa7e4a3de0eb968071b9ab12447a72bf754aa9c8ab5fc7632d0919199e9e280
not much different from dash/darkcoin's "darksend" but instead of coinjoin we have zerocoin (much better), if this was a cleanly launched coin with no "founders" reward or premine I would "ignore" the trusted setup and lack of scalability on long-term and buy in the hype. In the current state I simply cannot see how its better than Bitcoin or Monero.
I will wait for a Zcash sidechain over Monero, preferable one that resets over time so we do not suffer eternally from the risk of someone hacking the protocol and creating infinite coins without anyone knowing
Lets speculate on when the EPIC DUMP hits.
Zcash is launching on Oct 28th 2016
It's already traded as futures on bitmex. Currently the market has predicted that the price will be 0.2 BTC on December 30th 2016.
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Trading will start at .2 BTC per ZEC? That's way too high and I would expect this to be sold down sooner or later. Just think about it, this is a new project, there's no economy behind it, and from my research the trusted set up looks pretty doubtful to me. If you're gonna trade this by all means do, but to hold it longterm and getting in at that price? I'd rather wait and see what's in store for it. Just my humble opinion.
It seems that ZEC integration with exchanges should be fairly straightforward since Zcash is fully based on Bitcoin. What will be interesting is when the exchanges support creating 'shielded' withdrawal transactions. If it takes a server 4GB of memory + 60 seconds of compute time on 4+ cores then the ability to do lots of shielded withdrawals is going to be very resource intensive. Someone has to pay for those resources, so I imagine that shielded withdrawal fees would be significant.
Hi, anybody could mention here how to buy zcash ?
It might be listed in the Poloniex a few days after the release. There could be a pump soon after the list.
Hi, anybody could mention here how to buy zcash ?
Not possible yet. You'll have to wait for the launch on October 28th. However you can still bet on the price in the futures market over at bitmex. The way this works is that people short and others can then take those offers and long. On December 30th the market will be settled at the current market price. So if you believe the price is too low at 0.2 BTC, you could long now and then if the market price is 0.3 BTC on December 30th you'll have made 50% profit. Keep in mind that the market may fluctuate a lot in the meantime and you'll have a liquidation price, so there's a risk with the high volatility. You could add more funds to your account to maintain a better liquidation price though. So it seems your only alternative is to use linux to create a wallet (at least on launch). I imagine there will be plenty of exchanges adding zcash though, so you'll be able to buy and store it there until you figure out the wallet.
Do u know how if the Mining Difficulty is 2075, what would be the global hash power? I mean, how to calculate?
Hi, anybody could mention here how to buy zcash ?
Not possible yet. You'll have to wait for the launch on October 28th. However you can still bet on the price in the futures market over at bitmex. The way this works is that people short and others can then take those offers and long. On December 30th the market will be settled at the current market price. So if you believe the price is too low at 0.2 BTC, you could long now and then if the market price is 0.3 BTC on December 30th you'll have made 50% profit. Keep in mind that the market may fluctuate a lot in the meantime and you'll have a liquidation price, so there's a risk with the high volatility. You could add more funds to your account to maintain a better liquidation price though. Why is Dec 30th important? I see it on Bitmex as well. Is something supposed to happen to ZCash?
ZEC is one of the most anticipated coins in the history of crypto. ... However there has since come out several other "anonymous" crypto's.
CredaCash is one of upcoming currencies that is completely private and fungible. CredaCash also uses Zero Knowledge Proofs, however CredaCash can create a completely private transaction in just 3 seconds using only 70 MB of memory, while it takes Zcash 2 minutes and 3 GB of memory. CredaCash is currently in beta, and already supports both Windows and Linux. It is expected to launch before the end of this year. For a full comparison, see https://CredaCash.com/compare/
Hi, anybody could mention here how to buy zcash ?
Not possible yet. You'll have to wait for the launch on October 28th. However you can still bet on the price in the futures market over at bitmex. The way this works is that people short and others can then take those offers and long. On December 30th the market will be settled at the current market price. So if you believe the price is too low at 0.2 BTC, you could long now and then if the market price is 0.3 BTC on December 30th you'll have made 50% profit. Keep in mind that the market may fluctuate a lot in the meantime and you'll have a liquidation price, so there's a risk with the high volatility. You could add more funds to your account to maintain a better liquidation price though. Why is Dec 30th important? I see it on Bitmex as well. Is something supposed to happen to ZCash?
long is the only option for that coin at the begining.
There will be no cheap lending market for this coin and i bet the team is going to take care that this will keep like this. Probably they'll pump that coin by themself to get even more media attention. And if this coin makes the 1:1 BTC/ZEC.....
With rising prices people get motivated to keep their coins. The marketing maschine will do it's rest. But yes there will be a time where this system will crash for sure. But not at the beginning. My prediction. I see, i'm again totally opposite than the rest...as always
There will be no cheap lending market for this coin and i bet the team is going to take care that this will keep like this. Probably they'll pump that coin by themself to get even more media attention. And if this coin makes the 1:1 BTC/ZEC.....
With rising prices people get motivated to keep their coins. The marketing maschine will do it's rest. But yes there will be a time where this system will crash for sure. But not at the beginning. My prediction. I see, i'm again totally opposite than the rest...as always
Why is there no Windows wallet? The coin will have 100% more change of succes whit a Windows wallet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2wMtaQgsWE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2wMtaQgsWE
Hi, anybody could mention here how to buy zcash ?
Not possible yet. You'll have to wait for the launch on October 28th. However you can still bet on the price in the futures market over at bitmex. The way this works is that people short and others can then take those offers and long. On December 30th the market will be settled at the current market price. So if you believe the price is too low at 0.2 BTC, you could long now and then if the market price is 0.3 BTC on December 30th you'll have made 50% profit. Keep in mind that the market may fluctuate a lot in the meantime and you'll have a liquidation price, so there's a risk with the high volatility. You could add more funds to your account to maintain a better liquidation price though. Thank u sir for your explanation.
where link annoucment thread zcash in bitcointalk
selling ico or not
if selling ico when iso open and run selling ico zcash
iam try find anoucement thread zcash not found
selling ico or not
if selling ico when iso open and run selling ico zcash
iam try find anoucement thread zcash not found
lol no, no ico for anybody only premine for the "founders", you can grab their dump, I don't feel good about Zcash price-wise (unlike Ethereum which I didn't touched because of the premine and people involved but I knew it would be pumped forever), and fundamentally-wise I think its a disaster waiting to happen, I don't like shorting anything but If I did ZEC would be big on my list.
I agree with lethos3 100%.
I'm expecting a really high initial price followed by a 25-30% drop by the end of the first day.
Then again, I'm a total idiot when it come to altcoin trading and I'm sure people will make millions of dollars if they just to the opposite of whatever I say ROFL.
I'm expecting a really high initial price followed by a 25-30% drop by the end of the first day.
Then again, I'm a total idiot when it come to altcoin trading and I'm sure people will make millions of dollars if they just to the opposite of whatever I say ROFL.
where link annoucment thread zcash in bitcointalk
selling ico or not
if selling ico when iso open and run selling ico zcash
iam try find anoucement thread zcash not found
selling ico or not
if selling ico when iso open and run selling ico zcash
iam try find anoucement thread zcash not found
Hi, anybody could mention here how to buy zcash ?
Not possible yet. You'll have to wait for the launch on October 28th. However you can still bet on the price in the futures market over at bitmex. The way this works is that people short and others can then take those offers and long. On December 30th the market will be settled at the current market price. So if you believe the price is too low at 0.2 BTC, you could long now and then if the market price is 0.3 BTC on December 30th you'll have made 50% profit. Keep in mind that the market may fluctuate a lot in the meantime and you'll have a liquidation price, so there's a risk with the high volatility. You could add more funds to your account to maintain a better liquidation price though. Linux in most forms still reminds me of something between Windows 3.1, and Windows 95. I'm not a fan, but will admit there are a few things Linux does better.
I find it easier to run WMware player on Windows to install Ubuntu, and run my Zcash miners and wallet there. At least you aren't wasting functionality of a good computer.
One of my concerns with Zcash is that the software is still in beta testing, and looks real iffy for an Oct. 28 launch. The whole thing looks a "bit" rushed, and shoddy.
Especially since they don't have mining software that will run on Windows. Zcash is another geek coin that may or may not have long term adoption.
It looks like the hash rate will be astronomical shortly after launch, so difficulty will be crazy from the get go on a coin that hasn't been proven. Initially it was announced that Zcash would be CPU only.
Now we will have GPU farms gearing up again, which means ASICs are likely if the value is maintained anywhere near .2 BTC. I would be real skeptical of buying futures at .2 BTC.
http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/home/video-van-een-zcash-mining-rig-op-beta2-testnet
Probably worth mining some to see where this goes, but there will likely be plenty of pitfalls along the way. The current futures price is highly optimistic in my opinion. I remember when Litecoin hit $ .60 cents thinking it was impressive.
the bitmex derivative is a complete joke and brought them more harm than good in my opinion. issuing a derivative without underlying spot market is just bullshit, visible in the extremely low liquidity and high price.
with this product they unfortunately showed one more time they are more a betting platform for degenerated crypto gamblers than a serious derivative issuer.
regarding ZEC, launch and first few months will sure be interesting, possiblilty for big crocodile tears after
with this product they unfortunately showed one more time they are more a betting platform for degenerated crypto gamblers than a serious derivative issuer.
regarding ZEC, launch and first few months will sure be interesting, possiblilty for big crocodile tears after
Hi, anybody could mention here how to buy zcash ?
Not possible yet. You'll have to wait for the launch on October 28th. However you can still bet on the price in the futures market over at bitmex. The way this works is that people short and others can then take those offers and long. On December 30th the market will be settled at the current market price. So if you believe the price is too low at 0.2 BTC, you could long now and then if the market price is 0.3 BTC on December 30th you'll have made 50% profit. Keep in mind that the market may fluctuate a lot in the meantime and you'll have a liquidation price, so there's a risk with the high volatility. You could add more funds to your account to maintain a better liquidation price though. So it seems your only alternative is to use linux to create a wallet (at least on launch). I imagine there will be plenty of exchanges adding zcash though, so you'll be able to buy and store it there until you figure out the wallet.
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