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Topic: Zerovert - First Truly & Only Anonymous Coin with Zerocoin | Mandatory Upgrade ! - page 10. (Read 50921 times)

sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Still no coins from the "coin giveaway".

scam?

no, don`t think so. Vert dev is a good one Smiley

but probably they have other things to do.... Undecided
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1000
ARK Team likes to ban and delete posts in reddit.
Still no coins from the "coin giveaway".

scam?
newbie
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Merit: 0
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
giveaway sent!

what about the giveaways? shared on twitter for several times and did not receive anything :/

@fevoe
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legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
TRUMP IS DOING THE BEST! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
2000 zeroverts dump this morning

o yeah, ain't that nice.. btw, please re-read if you have not done so already first page of this thread and I quote

"There tends to be a lot of unneeded negativity on online forums in general, and bitcointalk announcements in particular"

I like the fact that it is a low key operation by vert developers, 20 or so thread pages.. kind of like that, I believe people are tired, # of alt coin releases also have gone down, good

It is interesting facts since there was a scam report from a legendary member
 and it would take 248xHD7970 to mine 2000 zeroverts in ~5.25 days
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1010
2000 zeroverts dump this morning

o yeah, ain't that nice.. btw, please re-read if you have not done so already first page of this thread and I quote

"There tends to be a lot of unneeded negativity on online forums in general, and bitcointalk announcements in particular"

I like the fact that it is a low key operation by vert developers, 20 or so thread pages.. kind of like that, I believe people are tired, # of alt coin releases also have gone down, good
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
TRUMP IS DOING THE BEST! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
2000 zeroverts dump this morning
legendary
Activity: 1292
Merit: 1000


be veeeery carefull,

such question:



The held BTC investment will only be released to the developer, "ArenaCoin" after the ArenaCoin has been distributed, and there's an overall stability of the wallets, and blockchain and a working block explorer.

If any issues arise with the distribution I will provide mediation and release the Bitcoin to the party with the most compelling evidence.



Shouldn't be here:

"After the ArenaCoin has been distributed, and there's an overall stability of the wallets, and blockchain and a working block explorer,
and zerocoin implementation is onboard, and is working fine (i.e. anonymous transactions are working)"

?


was already moderated twice, there is third try here (probably the proof of above soon Smiley ):
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9494631

legendary
Activity: 938
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The interesting difference between Ring Signatures (ala cryptonote) and Zerocoin - is that one anonymising the transaction, while the other basically "scrubs" the history of the coin. Basically this means you can opt-in or out of the anonymity option as and when needed.
newbie
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For all those who have trouble opening the wallet, delete the chainstate folder in the roaming directory..this at least lets the wallet open once..then again you have to delete chainstate...somebody should correct this bug!!
legendary
Activity: 1292
Merit: 1000
CAN ANYBODY IN THIS THREAD TELL ME HOW MANY COINS THEY ARE MINING FROM A GPU EVRY 24HRS?
  I'm with 1 X 7970 + 3 X 7950 (1100 -1150 Khash/s) for about 40-45 hours approximately, earned 4.3 Zerovert and 18.80 VTC. However, I am stopped mining because of the high consumption of electricity (I can not even cover the cost of my electricity energy although prices among the lowest in Europe) and I wait for the new algorithm which should be much more economical.


that would be 0.06$ for hour, while your power consumption is just about 1kW...
and 0.06$/kWh is not very common for plain GPU miner
- so probably scrypt ASIC is the only reasonable answer here
member
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At this point I'd say cryptonote is far better than zerovert, primarily because zerovert is closed source and there is no way to tell that transactions can't be doublespent by the developers[...]Also, I believe ring signatures are more mature technology than zerocoin.

That was my feeling, but you backed it with some facts.  If the dev can get back in here and open the source code, that'd be nice!  Otherwise, what are you waiting for dev? People already know this is (possibly) the first successful Zerocoin implementation, the word has spread.

There's an incredible amount of hype around Zerocoin and Zerocash even if it's true that they are inferior to cryptonote technology.

Dev has already mentioned they chose to keep the source closed in order to establish a network effect.

I wouldn't expect to have the source for a few months.

In the meantime, there are very good papers written on the web, for you to go through, if you would like to get a good understanding of the technology.

It's been analyzed quite well, and has a real chance. Just like everything else, it's gonna go through improvements. I hope over time, both zerocash, zerocoin, and cryptonote can be developed to their fullest, with a working implementation, so that we can decide.

That will be years off though Cheesy !
member
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At this point I'd say cryptonote is far better than zerovert, primarily because zerovert is closed source and there is no way to tell that transactions can't be doublespent by the developers[...]Also, I believe ring signatures are more mature technology than zerocoin.

That was my feeling, but you backed it with some facts.  If the dev can get back in here and open the source code, that'd be nice!  Otherwise, what are you waiting for dev? People already know this is (possibly) the first successful Zerocoin implementation, the word has spread.

There's an incredible amount of hype around Zerocoin and Zerocash even if it's true that they are inferior to cryptonote technology.
legendary
Activity: 2982
Merit: 1102
Please put https://hashmonster.net/zero back on the list!
The guy behind hashmonster, ocminer is one of the most trustworthy and responsive pool ops and runs suprnova it seems.  He created a separate pool because your software was (still is?) closed source.  A few of us end-users, including myself, weren't doing stuff right on our end.

Also, assuming this isn't a scam, what makes zerocoin better than cryptonote?

At this point I'd say cryptonote is far better than zerovert, primarily because zerovert is closed source and there is no way to tell that transactions can't be doublespent by the developers, while all of the cryptonotes are opensource afaik. Also, there's no premine in monero, while there is 2% premine in zerovert, which combined with the very slow emission means that the zerovert devs will control > 50% of the coins in circulation for several months. Also, I believe ring signatures are more mature technology than zerocoin.

Maybe if the zerovert devs can prove that they are not able to double spend and they implement some usability improvements to making zerocoin txs it will be more difficult to choose, but at this point I think monero and its brethren are clearly the better choice for anonymity.
member
Activity: 110
Merit: 10
Please put https://hashmonster.net/zero back on the list!
The guy behind hashmonster, ocminer is one of the most trustworthy and responsive pool ops and runs suprnova it seems.  He created a separate pool because your software was (still is?) closed source.  A few of us end-users, including myself, weren't doing stuff right on our end.

Also, assuming this isn't a scam, what makes zerocoin better than cryptonote?
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1000
ARK Team likes to ban and delete posts in reddit.
1. OSX wallet and zerovertd coming?
2. who is this Legendary member who slammed zerovert's trust rating? WTF was that?
3. when will u simplify the process of sending anon + sending more than 1 coin?
4. I have heard the transaction amount is not concealed. Is this true?

^^^This, plus when will zerovert hit bittrex?
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
1. OSX wallet and zerovertd coming?
2. who is this Legendary member who slammed zerovert's trust rating? WTF was that?
3. when will u simplify the process of sending anon + sending more than 1 coin?
4. I have heard the transaction amount is not concealed. Is this true?
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
CAN ANYBODY IN THIS THREAD TELL ME HOW MANY COINS THEY ARE MINING FROM A GPU EVRY 24HRS?
  I'm with 1 X 7970 + 3 X 7950 (1100 -1150 Khash/s) for about 40-45 hours approximately, earned 4.3 Zerovert and 18.80 VTC. However, I am stopped mining because of the high consumption of electricity (I can not even cover the cost of my electricity energy although prices among the lowest in Europe) and I wait for the new algorithm which should be much more economical.

thanks very much for the reply
hero member
Activity: 711
Merit: 500
CAN ANYBODY IN THIS THREAD TELL ME HOW MANY COINS THEY ARE MINING FROM A GPU EVRY 24HRS?
  I'm with 1 X 7970 + 3 X 7950 (1100 -1150 Khash/s) for about 40-45 hours approximately, earned 4.3 Zerovert and 18.80 VTC. However, I am stopped mining because of the high consumption of electricity (I can not even cover the cost of my electricity energy although prices among the lowest in Europe) and I wait for the new algorithm which should be much more economical.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
CAN ANYBODY IN THIS THREAD TELL ME HOW MANY COINS THEY ARE MINING FROM A GPU EVRY 24HRS?
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