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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on May 10, 2024, 04:53:45 AM

If mixers, coinjoin wallets, and no-KYC services are supposedly being used to launder billions of dollars, it makes you wonder why they are not going after actual criminals but instead they go after software developers and are forcing anything related to privacy to shut down. Money laundering is just a pretense they are using to restrict freedom and increase how much control they have over people’s lives, just like how the 9/11 attacks were used to justify passing some of the most Orwellian legislation.

Because actually stopping crime costs billions of dollars, and they'd rather save money for themselves by going after easy, defenseless targets like developers. Not that this will fix the problem, and it's like putting a band-aid on a cut after the other band-aid fell off.

Since you mentioned the Orwellian legislation, the Patriot Act, you might be interested to know that they have recently renewed Article 702 of that thing - even going as far to tell employees to find any excuse to justify warrant-less spying on Americans (and me, I guess).

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Quote from: NotATether on May 09, 2024, 04:07:55 AM

Welp.... more services are shutting down. I was going to publish the updates today but that is been postponed in case we see any of the other sites on this list going down.

If mixers, coinjoin wallets, and no-KYC services are supposedly being used to launder billions of dollars, it makes you wonder why they are not going after actual criminals but instead they go after software developers and are forcing anything related to privacy to shut down. Money laundering is just a pretense they are using to restrict freedom and increase how much control they have over people’s lives, just like how the 9/11 attacks were used to justify passing some of the most Orwellian legislation.

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New knowledge update published. Very sad one for sure, in terms of the industry, I mean.

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Welp.... more services are shutting down. I was going to publish the updates today but that is been postponed in case we see any of the other sites on this list going down.

It is very important to keep replacing the fallen mixers with new, working mixers, for the purposes of decentralization. Therefore if you have a good experience with any service that is not on this list, please write to me and I will check it out.

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Quote from: NotATether on April 28, 2024, 02:48:09 AM

I am going to wait for a few more days to see if any more services fall before I update the website.

It looks like you will have more mixers to scrap off the list. I don't know if you are aware, but unijoin and tumbler are both offline as of now. No communication from both teams. unijoin has even it's social media accounts removed/deleted.

I just hope no one was scammed in the process. It's getting very wild since the mixer ban in this forum!

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I am going to wait for a few more days to see if any more services fall before I update the website.

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Quote from: examplens on April 25, 2024, 06:01:55 AM

Quote from: NotATether on April 25, 2024, 04:44:43 AM

In the wake of Samourai Wallet being seized (ugh), what do you guys think of me doing an investigation into the circumstances behind the seizure and posting them on the site?

It would have to be on its own page, of course, so that means only on the main domain, with the mirrors linking back to it.

It could potentially be a nuisance if the DDoS attackers come back, but AFAIK I don't believe that I have leaked the IP address this time around.

I honestly do not think that such things as any investigation are the reason for a DDoS attack. For example, bitmover's website bitcoindata.science was also under attack, and there are no accusations or statements about any services on it. Just a few useful tools, mainly for Bitcointalk users.

As far as I know, every decent website in the internet suffers heavy ddos attacks.
This is why every (most of theem at least) big website has to run behind cloudflare/aws which are the most effective providers that can protect from those heavy ddos attacks...

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Quote from: dkbit98 on April 25, 2024, 06:46:25 AM

Quote from: NotATether on April 25, 2024, 04:44:43 AM

In the wake of Samourai Wallet being seized (ugh), what do you guys think of me doing an investigation into the circumstances behind the seizure and posting them on the site?

You can do that, it would be interesting reading material, but didn't you say that you can't create separate pages? Wink

That is correct, on most of the mirrors I cannot create separate pages due to their architecture, but the primary site, which is on my own metal, is currently serving simple HTML files and I could easily make it use a CMS instead.

In fact I was using Wordpress before the attack. But I think I will use another one.

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Note that it was not only Samourai wallet website that was seized, they also removed their Gitlab page, coordinator is down, and you can't even use it via Sparrow wallet.
I think that samourai old github page is still there but this is outdated code, and all keys previously generated by Samourai should be considered unsafe now.

Sparrow wallet with Whirlpool is not working anymore, so you can consider removing it from list, or moving in separate section.

Good point. What a nuisance these feds are creating in the name of "AML".

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Quote from: NotATether on April 25, 2024, 04:44:43 AM

In the wake of Samourai Wallet being seized (ugh), what do you guys think of me doing an investigation into the circumstances behind the seizure and posting them on the site?

You can do that, it would be interesting reading material, but didn't you say that you can't create separate pages? Wink

Note that it was not only Samourai wallet website that was seized, they also removed their Gitlab page, coordinator is down, and you can't even use it via Sparrow wallet.
I think that samourai old github page is still there but this is outdated code, and all keys previously generated by Samourai should be considered unsafe now.

Sparrow wallet with Whirlpool is not working anymore, so you can consider removing it from list, or moving in separate section.

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Quote from: NotATether on April 25, 2024, 04:44:43 AM

In the wake of Samourai Wallet being seized (ugh), what do you guys think of me doing an investigation into the circumstances behind the seizure and posting them on the site?

It would have to be on its own page, of course, so that means only on the main domain, with the mirrors linking back to it.

It could potentially be a nuisance if the DDoS attackers come back, but AFAIK I don't believe that I have leaked the IP address this time around.

I honestly do not think that such things as any investigation are the reason for a DDoS attack. For example, bitmover's website bitcoindata.science was also under attack, and there are no accusations or statements about any services on it. Just a few useful tools, mainly for Bitcointalk users.

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In the wake of Samourai Wallet being seized (ugh), what do you guys think of me doing an investigation into the circumstances behind the seizure and posting them on the site?

It would have to be on its own page, of course, so that means only on the main domain, with the mirrors linking back to it.

It could potentially be a nuisance if the DDoS attackers come back, but AFAIK I don't believe that I have leaked the IP address this time around.

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Quote from: NotATether on April 08, 2024, 12:41:46 PM

That's a great idea! But it can't be a separate page, as many of the sites are single-page variants. A section on the main page should do, but I will have to make it detailed.

Maybe you can create a separate section in the bottom of the page to be used just for seized mixers.
Things that should be included for this is archived link (to avoid original pages getting deleted), screenshot would be nice, and information about exact authority that performed a seizure.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on April 08, 2024, 12:29:14 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on April 04, 2024, 03:27:45 AM

I do believe the domain name and servers were seized, but at the time it did sound like the people operating it would continue. Then Admin locked their topic and banned the OP from Bitcointalk, so it ended here.

I tried to find some type of register or official list of cryptocurrency related websites/mixers that got seized by government, but I couldn't find anything.

@NotATether
It would be great if you could add a special page for all seized old mixers, I think it is important for us to track this and record history.

That's a great idea! But it can't be a separate page, as many of the sites are single-page variants. A section on the main page should do, but I will have to make it detailed.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on April 02, 2024, 05:53:05 PM

Now this reminds me of the account that registered here and posted about the seizure even before any member in the forum got to know about it.

This was clearly NL government controlled account, but I don't know if they had any influence on things that happened later with previously mentioned mixer.

Quote from: LoyceV on April 04, 2024, 03:27:45 AM

I do believe the domain name and servers were seized, but at the time it did sound like the people operating it would continue. Then Admin locked their topic and banned the OP from Bitcointalk, so it ended here.

I tried to find some type of register or official list of cryptocurrency related websites/mixers that got seized by government, but I couldn't find anything.

@NotATether
It would be great if you could add a special page for all seized old mixers, I think it is important for us to track this and record history.

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I discovered today that the Telegram contact I had with Yo!Mix is not active anymore, it shows me error for the username which means they removed the telegram.

Quote from: icopress on April 02, 2024, 01:33:14 PM

In addition, delving into this case, I was able to talk to some people whose level of knowledge is colossal. And they shared information that sinbad was not confiscated by the authorities, saying that this was just a very well-developed trick to relieve tension.

FUD! This is a baseless information you received. Sinbad management was the most professional and client/customer/employee friendly management I have ever managed a campaign. They respected their clients, their signature campaign members, campaign manager, business partners with highest standard. They were transparent about the incident happened. They even made sure that they do not have any debt existed before they good bye and leave. There were no valid scam accusation has been seen yet (at least I have not seen any).

Quote from: icopress on March 11, 2024, 05:19:34 PM

I also have no idea why you didn’t contact me about advertising, considering how long we’ve been working in the place. Undecided

Bad luck this time. By the way, other day I noticed Duelbits is advertising on Bitcoindata.Science, may be you can ask the same to bitmover?

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Quote from: mikeywith on April 04, 2024, 02:18:08 AM

Quote from: icopress on April 02, 2024, 01:33:14 PM

In addition, delving into this case, I was able to talk to some people whose level of knowledge is colossal. And they shared information that sinbad was not confiscated by the authorities, saying that this was just a very well-developed trick to relieve tension.

I do like the theory but there is one major thing stopping me from believing it and that is the official statement of the Dutch Financial Intelligence and Investigation Service (FIOD), their official website is www.fiod.nl, and the article regarding seizing Sinbad is found here https://www.fiod.nl/fiod-takes-large-crypto-currency-mixer-off-the-air/ which also contains the same image that was present in Sinbad's website.
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The servers of Sinbad.io were seized in the Netherlands and Finland.

I do believe the domain name and servers were seized, but at the time it did sound like the people operating it would continue. Then Admin locked their topic and banned the OP from Bitcointalk, so it ended here.

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Quote from: icopress on April 02, 2024, 01:33:14 PM

In addition, delving into this case, I was able to talk to some people whose level of knowledge is colossal. And they shared information that sinbad was not confiscated by the authorities, saying that this was just a very well-developed trick to relieve tension.

I do like the theory but there is one major thing stopping me from believing it and that is the official statement of the Dutch Financial Intelligence and Investigation Service (FIOD), their official website is www.fiod.nl, and the article regarding seizing Sinbad is found here https://www.fiod.nl/fiod-takes-large-crypto-currency-mixer-off-the-air/ which also contains the same image that was present in Sinbad's website.

The article explicitly says

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The servers of Sinbad.io were seized in the Netherlands and Finland.

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Dutch investigative agencies such as the FIOD will continue to crack down on this. This action aimed at Sinbad.io is a heavy blow to organized crime and also serves as an example and warning to founders and users of similar services.

Then posts the said image.

Strange enough there is no mention of it on the Finnish police website or any other place that is Finnish official.

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Quote from: icopress on April 02, 2024, 01:33:14 PM

I'll leave this here (regarding Ym/Cr) ^{[google translator should do a great job through the camera]}.

Unfortunately the power is currently out where I am right now but I will go through all the information including the Russian text (I don't speak Russian) and will take appropriate actions.

Once again, thank you very much for this information.

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Quote from: hugeblack on April 02, 2024, 10:01:32 PM

Quote from: icopress on April 02, 2024, 01:33:14 PM

In addition, delving into this case, I was able to talk to some people whose level of knowledge is colossal. And they shared information that sinbad was not confiscated by the authorities, saying that this was just a very well-developed trick to relieve tension. Which is quite logical... considering that chainalysis reported that after the closure of sinbad that YoMix's turnover increased 5 times. Secondly, this was the first time that a stub was placed in the site’s corporate style (some people appreciated LZ’s humor).

I tend to not agree with this, Sinbad.io(not .onion) was seized and registration data for Sinbad.io similar to what happened with Chipmixer + we have a screenshot from the @fyodnederland account

I would say that what icopress claims is closer to reality than everything that was finally presented here.

Whoever is behind the @fyodnederland account knew things very well on Bitcointalk. The only address recognized as a connection to sinbad is the escrow address from the sig. campaign, with a fairly small amount of around $10k at the time.
The image used as the seizing page and also in @fyodnederland posts is from sinbad Price Prediction Challenge Used only once in this topic.
Not to mention how quickly the @fyodnederland account was registered to post all these things. I got the impression that they posted it here before the people behind sinbad found out that their site was seized.

The only similarity with chipmixer is that the index page on the clearnet site has been replaced.
Unfortunately, theymos banned them so fast, so we did not receive the promised explanation, as well as the announcement that the service will be restored.

I'm not sure if it's just a trick and in the ownership connection of these two mixers, but it certainly looks like a show for those who read Bitcointalk.

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Thanks for sharing, is the registration for XSS available?

Quote from: icopress on April 02, 2024, 01:33:14 PM

In addition, delving into this case, I was able to talk to some people whose level of knowledge is colossal. And they shared information that sinbad was not confiscated by the authorities, saying that this was just a very well-developed trick to relieve tension. Which is quite logical... considering that chainalysis reported that after the closure of sinbad that YoMix's turnover increased 5 times. Secondly, this was the first time that a stub was placed in the site’s corporate style (some people appreciated LZ’s humor).

I tend to not agree with this, Sinbad.io(not .onion) was seized and registration data for Sinbad.io similar to what happened with Chipmixer + we have a screenshot from the @fyodnederland account

Back-End and mixer Bitcoins were not confiscated.

As it seemed, they were planning to create .onion sinbad link and turned into darket-Mixer but and after the signature campaign was included in the sanctions list, they used Yomix instead.

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