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Topic: [ANN] BitMixList.org - Bitcoin Mixer List - page 5. (Read 1923 times)

legendary
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December 13, 2023, 08:14:17 AM
#24
Congratulations NotATether.

I have just one comment for now.

I think swap services are not DEX. For example, exceto.https://exch.cx/is a great swap service but it is centralized,  isn't it?

Esit: maybe you could use "non kyc exchanges/swaps"
legendary
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December 13, 2023, 08:04:37 AM
#23
I don't think I'm going to be migrating anytime soon after this, but for now I will probably turn on Cloudflare for better caching and so I don't expose my hardware to DDoS.

I'm glad to hear that the site is back up and running.  Out of curiosity, who is currently hosting it? I hope you don't mind me asking.

And, since there are active links to mixer sites, did you check with the new host to make sure that's allowed in their terms of service? I hope this transition goes smoothly for you and you don't run into any more surprises.
legendary
Activity: 3290
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
December 13, 2023, 07:02:04 AM
#22
Service providers should not be banning people for posting links to resources
Now you're looking at it from a moral point of view. That doesn't matter for (most) businesses, which means some providers will be more restrictive than others.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
December 13, 2023, 06:39:06 AM
#21
Even more reason why this should not be banned from bitcointalk.
On the contrary, this is one of the reasons listed by theymos for banning mixers:
~ allowing them has become too risky/problematic, and it's only going to get worse. Imagine ~ our service providers suddenly banning us due to being "associated" with mixers

Service providers should not be banning people for posting links to resources, as long as they aren't darknet and illegal (mixers are not illegal [yet]). Besides, the forum is hosted in US jurisdiction, which means as a content provider, they should not be held liable for its users.

I do not know what hosting provider is used by the forum, or whether it is managed by Cyrus, but you'd certainly expect them to choose one that isn't sensitive over cryptocurrency, considering that there haven't been issues in that regard for years. And cloudflare never bans crypto sites AFAIK.

Although I will probably get rid of ads.

@dkbit98 I don't think I'm going to be migrating anytime soon after this, but for now I will probably turn on Cloudflare for better caching and so I don't expose my hardware to DDoS.
legendary
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December 13, 2023, 06:27:49 AM
#20
Onion link still works fine for me.
I heard good things about Flokinet that is located in Iceland, they have strict no-kyc policy and they won't ask you for any personal information.
Last time I checked they are still accepting Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency payments.
There are few other alternatives available so dyor before choosing next host, you don't want to move data all the time Wink
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
December 13, 2023, 04:18:21 AM
#19
Even more reason why this should not be banned from bitcointalk.
On the contrary, this is one of the reasons listed by theymos for banning mixers:
~ allowing them has become too risky/problematic, and it's only going to get worse. Imagine ~ our service providers suddenly banning us due to being "associated" with mixers
legendary
Activity: 1568
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bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
December 13, 2023, 01:41:41 AM
#18
BitMixList is under attack by web hosts.

For now, the domain has been moved to BitMixList.org and is registered using Porkbun's domain registrar.

I'm going to have to wait out the transfer period before I can transfer the dot com domain, since it's so new.

The table of contents may have been broken during troubleshooting. I will fix that soon.

Even more reason why this should not be banned from bitcointalk.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 3098
December 12, 2023, 04:37:50 PM
#17
Non-promotionally linking to a mixer's ANN thread will be allowed, whether or not it's a defunct mixer.
I don't know, but banning signatures and all promotional activities would be enough.
There's also this part:
- Mixer URLs will be automatically wordfiltered out, but you can still discuss mixers otherwise.
I guess we'll have to see how compatible that is with linking to a site that lists all URLs.

however, theymos understood that it could not be too restrictive, so he eased some of the rules. I believe that over time the most constructive solution will be defined.
Here is the most direct answer from theymos about mixer collections like this.
could you tell me whether my service's thread that ony lists and discusses mixers will be allowed here or I should wipe it before January? The thread in question: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mixhubto-a-maintained-list-of-mixers-for-backup-and-lookup-purposes-5476445

It's OK.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
December 12, 2023, 02:45:26 PM
#16
Non-promotionally linking to a mixer's ANN thread will be allowed, whether or not it's a defunct mixer.
I don't know, but banning signatures and all promotional activities would be enough.
There's also this part:
- Mixer URLs will be automatically wordfiltered out, but you can still discuss mixers otherwise.
I guess we'll have to see how compatible that is with linking to a site that lists all URLs.
legendary
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December 12, 2023, 01:39:33 PM
#15
I don't think your topic linking to a list of mixers will survive on Bitcointalk after January 1st though. After that it'll have to compete with the exising lists, and as far as I've seen in the past, many of them advertise phishing sites.
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Non-promotionally linking to a mixer's ANN thread will be allowed, whether or not it's a defunct mixer.
I don't know, but banning signatures and all promotional activities would be enough.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
December 12, 2023, 12:10:16 PM
#14
My first thought after reading about the impending mixer ban on Bitcointalk:
Phishing sites are going to love this change! Google has shown ads for fake mixers for years.
I don't think your topic linking to a list of mixers will survive on Bitcointalk after January 1st though. After that it'll have to compete with the exising lists, and as far as I've seen in the past, many of them advertise phishing sites.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
December 12, 2023, 11:54:35 AM
#13
There has been a problem with the server. I will have more to say in a moment.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 443
December 12, 2023, 10:11:39 AM
#12
I don't know if it's some random downtime or a planned maintenance, so I thought I could alert you here just in case. The Tor mirror works just fine as of now.
I cleared the cookies and the error still exists, so it appears that there have been modifications in the backend and access to the server has been restricted.
copper member
Activity: 2030
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December 12, 2023, 09:21:08 AM
#11
@NotATether, When trying to access the clearnet link. I was greeted by this on different browsers


I don't know if it's some random downtime or a planned maintenance, so I thought I could alert you here just in case. The Tor mirror works just fine as of now.
legendary
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December 12, 2023, 05:20:00 AM
#10
The site design is clean, adding the night mode feature, and better control over list arrangement. I do not know how the arrangement is currently done, but there must be a standard of differentiation between these services, in addition to the latest login time for these services to ensure that they are not closed or turned into scam.
Add a warning that Wasabi may collect data from users.
add for Private DEXs list a self-hosted section.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
December 12, 2023, 04:35:37 AM
#9
OK, there is a known issue when connecting to the site from Tor Browser.

But using New Tor Circuit for this Site button seems to fix it (if not, do it enough times).

Meanwhile I have made a hidden service that does not have this problem: kmzvdt7443fqisu27xw3saxv7rn2pmgx33zd2cy54ev2mbba2xjoziqd.onion

@TryNinja

Maybe another time I will add metadata. I did not really find it necessary at first.

@Bitcoin_Arena

Good to know. I was unaware of the exch.cc domain.
copper member
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December 11, 2023, 05:25:42 PM
#8
I appreciate the great job done on the website OP.

I would like to point out something about exch.cx, The exchange was founded somewhere in 2016 and not 2023 if you look at how old their ANN is and the profiles that represent them in this forum. For some reason, they abandoned the old domain they started with exch.cc and now use exch.cx
legendary
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December 11, 2023, 04:03:58 PM
#7
Nicely done, sir! I've bookmarked it and I've also done a complete save, just in case.
It will be a very good source of information for many, and being so simple it could go very high in search results (maybe ref links is the next step?  Cheesy Cheesy j/k)

Maybe theymos changes his mind and then you'll be able to also link ANN pages from bitcointalk. One can hope...
legendary
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December 11, 2023, 03:51:46 PM
#6
I think you should include official onion links for each website next to the clearnet links.
Another thing I would add on top of the page is date when last update of information happened, as we know how things quickly change in this business Wink
Mixhub.to is also doing a nice job with his list, and I see he has no plans for long term updating, so maybe you two could work together on this.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
December 11, 2023, 12:41:05 PM
#5
11 days later, it is finally complete!
That's a lot of time and effort I imagine you put into there although I can not load the site on my side.

Quote
Secure Connection Failed

An error occurred during a connection to bitmixlist.com.

    The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
    Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
I can not wait to see it.

Cheers,

Uh oh.

Can you send me a screenshot? Also also tell me what browser you used. Because I can't seem to reproduce this on my end.

Does it work with a VPN? I can spin up a temporary proxy and let you try connecting through that (to rule out any ISP problems). Also is your computer time set correctly - as too much drift can cause this error form as well?

The HTTPS certificate and web server config is auto-installed by Hostinger.

Edit: is it one of these errors?

Your Connection Is Not Private
ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR
ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH
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