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May 15, 2015, 02:49:32 PM
#48
Please stop these useless conspiracy theories. It does not matter if Satoshi was just a regular man, CIA or NSA agent.
Bitcoin is open source; Bitcoin works and currently has no flaws. It does not matter who created it.
End of story.

 Roll Eyes Undecided

bitcoin has not flaws, if you are thinking the contrary .... then please explain or better illustrate these flaws Wink. Remember that bitcoin was created only few years ago and it can surpass and 'destroy' the actual economic system (because it is better and more easier to use).

Obviously I agree with your later point, you're preaching to the choir.
In regard to flaws (and/or weaknesses), since nothing is perfect, here you go.

Hmm interesting 'flaws' but bitcoin is still better (100 times more) than the actual economic system based on banks and FIAT currencies. An human cannot create something 100% perfect (this is obvious) but maybe he can reaches 99% (and remember this is still an experiment).

Agree
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May 15, 2015, 01:53:51 PM
#47
Please stop these useless conspiracy theories. It does not matter if Satoshi was just a regular man, CIA or NSA agent.
Bitcoin is open source; Bitcoin works and currently has no flaws. It does not matter who created it.
End of story.

 Roll Eyes Undecided

bitcoin has not flaws, if you are thinking the contrary .... then please explain or better illustrate these flaws Wink. Remember that bitcoin was created only few years ago and it can surpass and 'destroy' the actual economic system (because it is better and more easier to use).

Obviously I agree with your later point, you're preaching to the choir.
In regard to flaws (and/or weaknesses), since nothing is perfect, here you go.

Hmm interesting 'flaws' but bitcoin is still better (100 times more) than the actual economic system based on banks and FIAT currencies. An human cannot create something 100% perfect (this is obvious) but maybe he can reaches 99% (and remember this is still an experiment).
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May 15, 2015, 08:04:04 AM
#46
I'm sorry, but this thread is friggin hilarious. Thanks for the laugh OP!
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May 15, 2015, 07:27:10 AM
#45

What evidence?
All we have are his posts in this forum.

Which brings me to this question:
Why didn't he delete them before he disappeared?

Probably because there is nothing to identify him, but still.....

I wasn't referring to publicly available posts and such. The NSA, supposedly has access to private information like emails, chats and such. That's why people get mad about it. However, for several reasons, I don't think that any kind of private conversations of Satoshi held by the NSA are going to reveal anything to anybody. Firstly, I can't imagine the NSA searching and successfully finding information about Satoshi in the huge stash of information they have collected. I don't think it would even be of their interest to be honest. And even if all this is not true, wouldn't someone else already have revealed such evidence? Satoshi seemed to be extremely careful when it came to revealing his identity, which makes me think that even private conversation wouldn't be useful for that matter.
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May 15, 2015, 06:04:38 AM
#44
Satoshi nakamotoi is also the anagram of:

" So a man took a shit "

I think we found something important here...
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May 15, 2015, 05:49:54 AM
#43
I just want to say that Satoshi is smart enough not to  reveal his true identity and that he certainly have enough reasons and do so, and that is why we should focus on the issues that we have more info (in more productive ways). if such an opinion is stupid to you, it's okay, I can live with that.
Of course, you can do whatever you want and still research about Satoshi, but please be polite to others who don't think like you.

I didn't say stupid, I said dumb - it's a much lighter/friendlier version  Wink
That being said, I apologize if I offended you.  Smiley

Now, are you not the least bit curious as to who Satoshi is and more importantly why do they insist on keeping all the coins they mined?
If the answer is No, then you are lying.
You know how I know that?
Because if you didn't then you wouldn't even bother with this thread  Wink


Yes, I'm curious who Satoshi is, like every bitcoin user in the world, but just don't think that we will find answer to this question.
Maybe I'm wrong but I always try to focus my energy and time on something more productive, where I have enough info and resources etc.
This endless saga about Satoshi will probably never end and can be interesting for some people but if no concrete answers over long period of time I choose to move on to other things.
It's jsat my opinion.
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May 15, 2015, 05:48:09 AM
#42
I just want to say that Satoshi is smart enough not to  reveal his true identity and that he certainly have enough reasons and do so ........

The upcoming Bitlicense contains a clause that says this.

"Decentralized Currency Issuers May Still Require License - The first draft of the BitLicense stated that, “controlling, administering, or issuing a Virtual Currency” qualifies as Virtual Currency Business Activity subject to licensing. This remains unchanged in the new draft, and that’s unfortunate."
https://coincenter.org/2015/02/our-initial-thoughts-on-new-yorks-revised-bitlicense-proposal/

If Satoshi was still the active Bitcoin dev that would mean he would be controlling and administering a Virtual Currency. That would qualify as performing a Virtual Currency Business Activity and be subject to licensing. I'm not sure what the license would cost or involve, but it doesn't sound fun to me.

Whether he's a person, or a secret government project, he/it would still require a license.

Yeah, but that applies for the United States right?
From what we know Satoshi was in the UK (which will probably follow U.S example but anyway).
I am saying that based on the coinbase message he put in the genesis block.


I'm not sure but doesn't the BitLicense require anyone doing any kind of business with New York residents to get a license, even if they are located in a foreign country? I know some exchanges were considering refusing to do business with anyone from New York, but I don't know if things have changed since they released the second draft of the license.
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May 15, 2015, 05:34:39 AM
#41
I just want to say that Satoshi is smart enough not to  reveal his true identity and that he certainly have enough reasons and do so ........

The upcoming Bitlicense contains a clause that says this.

"Decentralized Currency Issuers May Still Require License - The first draft of the BitLicense stated that, “controlling, administering, or issuing a Virtual Currency” qualifies as Virtual Currency Business Activity subject to licensing. This remains unchanged in the new draft, and that’s unfortunate."
https://coincenter.org/2015/02/our-initial-thoughts-on-new-yorks-revised-bitlicense-proposal/

If Satoshi was still the active Bitcoin dev that would mean he would be controlling and administering a Virtual Currency. That would qualify as performing a Virtual Currency Business Activity and be subject to licensing. I'm not sure what the license would cost or involve, but it doesn't sound fun to me.

Whether he's a person, or a secret government project, he/it would still require a license.

Yeah, but that applies for the United States right?
From what we know Satoshi was in the UK (which will probably follow U.S example but anyway).
I am saying that based on the coinbase message he put in the genesis block.
legendary
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May 15, 2015, 05:13:57 AM
#40
I just want to say that Satoshi is smart enough not to  reveal his true identity and that he certainly have enough reasons and do so ........

The upcoming Bitlicense contains a clause that says this.

Quote
Decentralized Currency Issuers May Still Require License - The first draft of the BitLicense stated that, “controlling, administering, or issuing a Virtual Currency” qualifies as Virtual Currency Business Activity subject to licensing. This remains unchanged in the new draft, and that’s unfortunate.
https://coincenter.org/2015/02/our-initial-thoughts-on-new-yorks-revised-bitlicense-proposal/

If Satoshi was still the active Bitcoin dev that would mean he would be controlling and administering a Virtual Currency. That would qualify as performing a Virtual Currency Business Activity and be subject to licensing. I'm not sure what the license would cost or involve, but it doesn't sound fun to me.

Whether he's a person, or a secret government project, he/it would still require a license.
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May 15, 2015, 05:13:10 AM
#39
I just want to say that Satoshi is smart enough not to  reveal his true identity and that he certainly have enough reasons and do so, and that is why we should focus on the issues that we have more info (in more productive ways). if such an opinion is stupid to you, it's okay, I can live with that.
Of course, you can do whatever you want and still research about Satoshi, but please be polite to others who don't think like you.

I didn't say stupid, I said dumb - it's a much lighter/friendlier version  Wink
That being said, I apologize if I offended you.  Smiley

Now, are you not the least bit curious as to who Satoshi is and more importantly why do they insist on keeping all the coins they mined?
If the answer is No, then you are lying.
You know how I know that?
Because if you didn't then you wouldn't even bother with this thread  Wink
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May 15, 2015, 04:59:52 AM
#38
I just want to say that Satoshi is smart enough not to  reveal his true identity and that he certainly have enough reasons and do so, and that is why we should focus on the issues that we have more info (in more productive ways). if such an opinion is stupid to you, it's okay, I can live with that.
Of course, you can do whatever you want and still research about Satoshi, but please be polite to others who don't think like you.
sr. member
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May 15, 2015, 04:47:20 AM
#37
It's funny how much conspiracy theories we had about real Satoshi's identity on this forum.
At least Satoshi proved to be smart until now and stay anonymous and obviously there is no reason for him to show up his face in the public.
Probably Satoshi is not just one single man but whole organization but it doesn't matter really.
Enjoy your bitcoin, spread the great news and enjoy the ride!
Don't bother yourself with the questions to which there is no answer.




Sorry but I find that very narrow minded and dumb to say the least.
People are the No. 1 species on this planet due to one reason.
Curiosity.
What if......
What is...
Why...

Curiosity is what made us the most intelligent animal on earth.
So saying: Don't bother finding out who Satoshi was or his motives, is just not going to happen.
Especially since he insists on keeping his 1M+ coins.
Why?
legendary
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May 15, 2015, 04:36:23 AM
#36
It's funny how much conspiracy theories we had about real Satoshi's identity on this forum.
At least Satoshi proved to be smart until now and stay anonymous and obviously there is no reason for him to show up his face in the public.
Probably Satoshi is not just one single man but whole organization but it doesn't matter really.
Enjoy your bitcoin, spread the great news and enjoy the ride!
Don't bother yourself with the questions to which there is no answer.


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May 15, 2015, 03:52:43 AM
#35
No real evidence, just some theory, we call this are conspiracy theories, and we should stop this.
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May 15, 2015, 02:44:52 AM
#34
OMG, Bitcoin is the work of NSA!!!!
It's the tool for evil!

Quick sell you coins immediately, doesn't matter how much, just get rid of it.

Sell it to me @ $10 per coin Roll Eyes

Hey, stop trying to take advantage of the situation.
$10 is too low.

They are going to sell it to me for $15 per coin  Wink
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May 15, 2015, 02:43:14 AM
#33
OMG, Bitcoin is the work of NSA!!!!
It's the tool for evil!

Quick sell you coins immediately, doesn't matter how much, just get rid of it.

Sell it to me @ $10 per coin Roll Eyes
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May 15, 2015, 02:39:37 AM
#32
satoshi nakamoto could be some ex governments guy who got tired of centralization money and come up with bitcoin, with a base that start from the long gone e-gold

i can see this working better than your anagram, but everything could be at this point, he surely was a little genius
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May 15, 2015, 02:34:14 AM
#31
NSA for sure can find who Satoshi Nakamoto is
and maybe he already has found job in USA,maybe CIA or something ,becouse of his skills
offcourse paid in bitcoin

 Soma is a fictional drug from the Aldous Huxley novel "Brave New World," which is used to keep the masses docile and controllable

And btc we can consider btc like a drug,drug is opening eyes for a while,but if to be to much attached,can destroy

That book is preety good

The NSA is so overwhelmed with data that making use of it efficiently is impossible.

Source:http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-whistleblower-overwhelmed-with-data-ineffective/

Even if there are evidence collected by NSA's program that would help track Satoshi, I'm sure that it's not going to help much. Bot to speak about the fact that that Satoshi was an encryption expert. Even with the evidence he left behind, we still have very few clues of who he could actually be.

What evidence?
All we have are his posts in this forum.

Which brings me to this question:
Why didn't he delete them before he disappeared?

Probably because there is nothing to identify him, but still.....
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May 15, 2015, 12:57:16 AM
#30

It recently occurred to me that all this speculation about "who" Satoshi is might be a red herring, and that the name does not stand for an individual person but for a top secret gov't operation. Then I started to wonder how to crack the enigma of that elusive name, and it soon became clear that it had to be an anagram for something. As I researched further into this I became convinced that this has to be the answer to "who" Satoshi is. After some exhaustive work I arrived at what seems to me the most likely decipherment of the code and I now present it in these forums for the review of the bitcoin community. You may not agree with the specific anagram I came up with as there are many other possibilities. But it seems undeniable that the name "Satoshi Nakamoto" is some kind of code. Solving the code could be the key to the survival of bitcoin. Here's the anagram I came up with:

A NSA Soma hit to KO

KO is of course a term from the sport of boxing which means "knockout." Soma is a fictional drug from the Aldous Huxley novel "Brave New World," which is used to keep the masses docile and controllable. I don't think the term "NSA" requires any explanation in these forums.

And with this it becomes clear what's really going on with bitcoin. I'm not saying to avoid bitcoin and never use it. It's possible that the people will be able to re-direct bitcoin from its original purposes of governmental control, or even to create a new crypto with different aims. But an awareness of these hidden realities is advisable as we move into an unknown future.


Actually, the SAmsungTOSHIbaNAKAmichiMOTOrola theory is more credible than that anagram.  Nice try, though.
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May 14, 2015, 07:09:08 PM
#29
NSA for sure can find who Satoshi Nakamoto is
and maybe he already has found job in USA,maybe CIA or something ,becouse of his skills
offcourse paid in bitcoin

 Soma is a fictional drug from the Aldous Huxley novel "Brave New World," which is used to keep the masses docile and controllable

And btc we can consider btc like a drug,drug is opening eyes for a while,but if to be to much attached,can destroy

That book is preety good

The NSA is so overwhelmed with data that making use of it efficiently is impossible.

Source:http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-whistleblower-overwhelmed-with-data-ineffective/

Even if there are evidence collected by NSA's program that would help track Satoshi, I'm sure that it's not going to help much. Bot to speak about the fact that that Satoshi was an encryption expert. Even with the evidence he left behind, we still have very few clues of who he could actually be.
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