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legendary
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March 04, 2014, 10:26:27 PM
This thread has outlived its usefulness. All it showed is that we really don't deserve custom forum software at any price.



When you think others are obsolete it is really you WHO IS OBSOLETE.
legendary
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May 27, 2015, 11:07:59 AM
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"When will the software be finished?

About one year from now."



and?


I guess It's still "one year from now".
legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
April 27, 2015, 03:46:24 AM
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"When will the software be finished?

About one year from now."



and?
legendary
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August 13, 2014, 06:32:00 AM

Ha ha 350k for forum software, I'll do it for 100k in any language.



its one million Dollar. Tiny forums costs something about $100 a year, on the other side reddit is worth five Billion Dollar.
legendary
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March 19, 2014, 11:51:55 PM
Because there's a whole board created to discuss this, so encouraging new topics to reply to his sticky is a good thing.
hero member
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legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
March 19, 2014, 07:09:15 PM
There are still plenty of unanswered questions...

I'd say the biggest (and easiest to answer) is where's the proof of the $350,000 initial payment?  It was said that it was done in BTC, so it should be super easy to find and link the transaction.

Also, there was mention of taking input from the community for the new software... will this happen?  It's been over a month since this thread was first started, I find it odd that I haven't seen or heard about Slickage talking with the community.

EDIT:
One more thing I forgot to add up top.  Was it ever stated why Slickage needs full access to the forum database?  Because I can't think of a reason they would need it, they should only need to know how it's laid out.

Is it really the $1,000,000 forum software project.
Is the $350,000 initial payment only ~1/3 down?
...or isn't $350,000 the whole price.
hero member
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March 19, 2014, 07:05:53 PM
Sounds to me like shopping around a bit would have been an excellent idea.  There are thousands of forums all over the internet so they can't be that difficult to program relatively speaking.  I'm not a programmer so I wouldn't know, however I do know that offering a job like this to the community and accepting bids from various parties would get this forum the best deal. 
Too late for that now I guess.
Has there been an official project thread started yet or is this it?
g4c
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March 19, 2014, 05:05:02 PM
Why don't we have the automated ad auction system, yet? It's so trivial for a 350k$ team that there is no excuse.

I could do it in a weekend for $25/hr. Just saying.

Maybe not if you're thinking of using PHP?

Theymos stated that PHP now sucks??

...
The most popular forum software is:
- Old.
- Written in PHP, which sucks.
- Written insecurely and messily.
- Difficult to modify, especially safely.
- Not much more featureful than SMF, if at all.
...

I think PHP5 is pretty nice and very clean for scaleable and future-proof systems provided proper OOP structure is used?

I actually know nodejs, I just don't like it. I only work with languages that I enjoy. I could write it in C++ if wanted me to for $350K.

Theymos PM lets get this thing rolling.

Ha ha 350k for forum software, I'll do it for 100k in any language.

edit: also why does forum software need to be uber-secure?  if anyone wants a secure channel, then they should arrange a secure channel, not use some brand-new untested in the battlefield forum software.

besides that the easy holes tend not to be at application level anyway.
legendary
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March 19, 2014, 03:42:44 PM
Why don't we have the automated ad auction system, yet? It's so trivial for a 350k$ team that there is no excuse.

I could do it in a weekend for $25/hr. Just saying.

Maybe not if you're thinking of using PHP?

Theymos stated that PHP now sucks??

...
The most popular forum software is:
- Old.
- Written in PHP, which sucks.
- Written insecurely and messily.
- Difficult to modify, especially safely.
- Not much more featureful than SMF, if at all.
...

I think PHP5 is pretty nice and very clean for scaleable and future-proof systems provided proper OOP structure is used?

I actually know nodejs, I just don't like it. I only work with languages that I enjoy. I could write it in C++ if wanted me to for $350K.

Theymos PM lets get this thing rolling.
g4c
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March 19, 2014, 03:33:53 PM
Why don't we have the automated ad auction system, yet? It's so trivial for a 350k$ team that there is no excuse.

I could do it in a weekend for $25/hr. Just saying.

Maybe not if you're thinking of using PHP?

Theymos stated that PHP now sucks??

...
The most popular forum software is:
- Old.
- Written in PHP, which sucks.
- Written insecurely and messily.
- Difficult to modify, especially safely.
- Not much more featureful than SMF, if at all.
...

I think PHP5 is pretty nice and very clean for scaleable and future-proof systems provided proper OOP structure is used?
legendary
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March 19, 2014, 02:23:09 PM
my personal guess: they bought the forum from theymos incl. donations and paid him. now they can use the donations to pay their employees and theymos has some cash.

but we'll see. i am very interested in the outcome.
legendary
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Keep it real
March 19, 2014, 02:20:07 PM
Just sitting here waiting for a reply  Undecided
legendary
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Keep it real
March 12, 2014, 09:37:33 AM
There are still plenty of unanswered questions...

I'd say the biggest (and easiest to answer) is where's the proof of the $350,000 initial payment?  It was said that it was done in BTC, so it should be super easy to find and link the transaction.

Also, there was mention of taking input from the community for the new software... will this happen?  It's been over a month since this thread was first started, I find it odd that I haven't seen or heard about Slickage talking with the community.

EDIT:
One more thing I forgot to add up top.  Was it ever stated why Slickage needs full access to the forum database?  Because I can't think of a reason they would need it, they should only need to know how it's laid out.
vip
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March 04, 2014, 12:42:42 PM
Really, you are one of the only people who aren't providing any sort of critical feedback, you are just complaining.

Do not really matter what criticism is made, Michael will ignore anyway.

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Goat is complaining too, but he at least isn't complaining for no reason, he wants basic answers.

So do I. What is the problem with the questions I made? Do you have a problem with that?

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I tend to trust people that have proven themselves in the past, so I am indeed giving Theymos the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Michael's past background is not the best example of trust and integrity.

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I dont think hes incompetent, I just think that it would be better if he addressed the serious questions, and ignored you. I dont think hes stealing the forum money, because he could have just taken it all and since he is technically the forum "owner" and the forum is not a registered nonprofit, he could probably legally take it all.

You are still looking for excuses to cover up charity fraud...

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Like I said in my previous post, I dont think Theymos is in this for the money anymore, because either he has plenty, or he thinks he can make more by operating the site legitimately. No one ever goes against self interest.

Not "anymore"? So he was before?
legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
March 04, 2014, 10:12:18 AM
Of course there are going to be the idiots that wont listen to reason, but he can ignore them.
The only idiots here are you and others providing all sorts of excuses and justifications to cover up the administration incompetence.

Really, you are one of the only people who aren't providing any sort of critical feedback, you are just complaining. Goat is complaining too, but he at least isn't complaining for no reason, he wants basic answers. I tend to trust people that have proven themselves in the past, so I am indeed giving Theymos the benefit of the doubt on this one. I dont think hes incompetent, I just think that it would be better if he addressed the serious questions, and ignored you. I dont think hes stealing the forum money, because he could have just taken it all and since he is technically the forum "owner" and the forum is not a registered nonprofit, he could probably legally take it all. Like I said in my previous post, I dont think Theymos is in this for the money anymore, because either he has plenty, or he thinks he can make more by operating the site legitimately. No one ever goes against self interest.
vip
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March 04, 2014, 07:56:42 AM
Of course there are going to be the idiots that wont listen to reason, but he can ignore them.

Let me explain:



The only idiots here are you and others providing all sorts of excuses and justifications to cover up the administration incompetence.
legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
March 03, 2014, 11:46:43 PM
Yeah can't imagine why theymos isn't rushing in here to participate in stimulating discussion of this caliber.
I'm sorry, BabBear, but I'm also pretty surprised theymos didn't take 5 or 10 minutes to completely shut this thread down, and instead chose to let it live on.
Apart from the obvious trolls, there are quite a few legit questions, still unanswered.
Maybe we can make a compilation of those valuable questions?

I'll just start with one.

- Can we have a precise, specified, delivery timeline?

(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/advertise-on-this-forum-round-114-497523 is automated, now! Or is it?)



Agreed, I sort of expected Theymos to make some sort of official statement, after that he wouldn't have to answer anything else. I still trust Theymos' decisions, but I'm curious as to why he hasn't responded at all. Of course there are going to be the idiots that wont listen to reason, but he can ignore them. Would be nice if he wouldn't ignore the people that are asking reasonable questions in a calm and inquisitive way. Do I think Theymos is stealing the forum's funds, no, probably not. He could stand to make far more by operating the site legitimately and going other avenues. If he really wanted money, he could make a killing off of merchandising, but he seems to have little interest in that, leading me to believe he isn't all that interested in the financial aspect.

I have already come to terms with the fact that the reasons he picked wangbus are his own, and I'm sure he has some. Great, I'll judge if it was a good call after they create the forum software. I have come to terms with the ESTIMATED $1M that will be spent, and have decided to complain once again after seeing the quality of the work. I have even come to terms with the fact that Theymos is a busy guy and doesn't have time to respond to every single question that is asked, but it would really be nice if he could find time to answer some rather weighted questions.

1) What sort of transaction details can you give to show that you aren't embezzling the money. It is a valid concern and should be pretty easily disproven.

2) What sort of progress has been made already, why is the forum auction system being developed so early (Unless other things are already falling into place?)

3) When will Wangbus be asking the community for feature requests

4)  "Insert the questions Goat raised in the OP, they are pretty well thought out and should be easy to answer"

5) Can you get a little bit more in touch with the community on this? You don't have to answer to everyone, its your project, but you have 250,000 accounts that would like some sort of reports from time to time. The basic questions should be addressed, and the stupid questions ignored.
sr. member
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Cuddling, censored, unicorn-shaped troll.
March 03, 2014, 05:20:25 PM
Yeah can't imagine why theymos isn't rushing in here to participate in stimulating discussion of this caliber.
I'm sorry, BabBear, but I'm also pretty surprised theymos didn't take 5 or 10 minutes to completely shut this thread down, and instead chose to let it live on.
Apart from the obvious trolls, there are quite a few legit questions, still unanswered.
Maybe we can make a compilation of those valuable questions?

I'll just start with one.

- Can we have a precise, specified, delivery timeline?

(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/advertise-on-this-forum-round-114-497523 is automated, now! Or is it?)

legendary
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March 03, 2014, 08:26:50 AM
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