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*edit* I guess its all above board and legit then.
well done to the successful company in winning the contract !!

Ah. Looks like possibly this guy: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/wtogami-81508

Post where Salty mentioned Warren: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=455867.msg5144795;topicseen#msg5144795

Theymos met wangbus through a member warren.
I don't know his username but you can see pics here http://hicapacity.org/page3/

I don't believe he has mentioned this yet (at least publicly).

anyone who believes theymos paid 1mil or 350k is well...very gullible.
pretty sure we'll get updates then it all mysteriously vanishes.


I havnt read all 13 pages.. but does anyone know how theymos met the dev ? considering they don't have a site and all.. i'm kind of curious ?
perhaps he met him at a bar.. and they got talking..  or perhaps he sent PM

'Hey d00d I can make you a site for 1 million'
well you dont have any previous websites, that actually work and was not registered 2 minutes ago.. so i suppose based on those reg flags it seems reasonable what is your btc address ?
'wow i didnt think it would work errr umm here it is'

Did you read the bio on these guys? They have combined a few years of post-Bachelors computer science experience under their belts. $1m for this project is absurd, especially given that the firm doesn't even have its own website. What kind of software development firm can get away with charging $1 million for a project when they themselves don't even have a website? This just looks awful, all around. Gweedo et al. raise very valid points across the board.

Well, the lack of transparency is problematic. The lack of community involvement in the decision making that lead to this is problematic. And, the lack of a clear definition of the relationship between theymos and the community and the resulting anarchy/theymos as benevolent dictator is too problematic.

THAT SAID, I will attempt to go against all of my instincts and natural predispositions and attempt some optimism in this matter.

Presume for a moment that theymos was visionary in retaining Mr. Schlongtrain/Wangbus/whatever and Co. and that they indeed are capable and follow through in delivering $1mil in added value to the forum.

If you suspend disbelief momentarily, there could be some interesting possibilities. If the new forum fully integrates things like cryptographic authentication and signing of 'posts' and transactions between users, as well as the ability to create complex conditional transactions between multiple users including things like an escrow function capable of different terms such as if X/Y of escrow keyholders affirm or deny a transaction it is released - things like that, perhaps a reformed trust system as well, heck the capability of complex transactions backed up by cryptography could even create the possibility of a rudimentary legal system with judges and juries, etc - built right into the p2p transaction functionality of the forum software itself rather than as a separate service running on top of the forum and validated by the community to be legit as it will all be open sourced - then it could be very interesting indeed.

If you can envision a forum software capable of seamlessly, natively supporting these types of complex interactions between users in a way that is cryptographically sound and secure, perhaps a visionary and anarchic way to look at this is that with this forum software, forum membership becomes the new citizenship. The infrastructure of the forum replaces the infrastructure of the sovereign nation in governing and administering the transactions between users/citizens. And, of course the weakness of bitcointalk.org in this regard is that it's "owners"/admins/whatever are known and so should it become a serious threat to physical nations, it could be physically threatened or taken down - but since this software is intended to be open source, it could and should then be installed elsewhere, hopefully a lot of elsewheres.

Viva la revolucion. Now, maybe that will cost more than $1mil - if it does, and if it does turn out to be so revolutionary, then theymos will have redeemed himself and Mr. Schlongtrain will be a hero.

Hoping for a happy ending,

me

well your dealing with a person who tried to sell GLBSE shares 2-3 days before it collapsed..... after he got inside information.

our fearless leader !!
fearless until its his btc that might be lost.........

His ideology is certainly "different", kind of like Amir's is "different".

hold on.. slow down!!!
according to the thread I made... with the multiple intrusions... the hackers didnt get access to the db.. they just held hands and danced around.

but ya.. i was being sarcartic after i locked other thread.

You are making big bucks to design a forum, yet you think vBull is Open Source?
That is odd that you don't know the most basic thing about the industry.

No they both should show, and both have to sign their respected addresses.

The current forum is not "fine".  It's suffered intrusions on more than one occasion and it goes offline a lot.

Certainly you don't need a million dollar forum if it's primary purpose is to give people somewhere to sit around dribbling bullshit about Bitcoin, but theymos' vision for Bitcointalk seems to incorporate more than that. 

I'm not hugely in favour of the forum being a place to conduct business - I think it tends to make people careless - but that seems to be part of the vision.  Certainly if this million dollar forum was designed from the ground up with security baked in, then the software might be attractive to other enterprises with similar requirements (and I'm sure that's crossed theymos' mind). 

You don't spend $1 million on developing forum software in order to offer a prettier look or bells and whistles.  It would make sense both financially and ideologically (if you're theymos - remember that theymos is very ideologically driven) to do it if you thought the end product might assist grey or black market forums to be less penetrable though.

why do we need a new website ?
the current one is fine ?

sweet mother of god.... so theymos is having some guy build forum from ground up ? Seems legit they registered their domain a week or 2 ago.
why not just give the hacker the password ? ( all tho I suspect he already has it )
and fark a year I can do basic php, python etc etc.. and I could build the site in less than a year and for ALOT less than $350k.

Atleast Goat has the good sense to question this tard-ation.

For a split second I felt bad calling ppl tards in the other thread..but wow......

i repeat: clap clap clap

Access to the database should be the very last thing just to transfer over the data. Why do you need access for the auction site? All you need to do is login people in, you can find that in the code, you don't need access to the database.

And theymos you just going to rub it in and give a staff tag. Great, this is going to be pirate all over again.

Money well spent then...

It looks like what's happening is similar to finding a couple random new computer science graduates, giving them $1,000,000, and expecting them to write the best forum software in the world.

Prediction: If these Slickage people try to write a new forum from the ground up, it will be almost universally regarded as worse than the existing forum.

Hell yeah, this.

I didn't donate to charities, but to the forum. I would regard such an act a misappropriation of my funds.

There are people doing business here. The forum isn't fine for that.

"Pretty sure" means you may be mistaken. In this case you are.