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legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
February 18, 2014, 01:06:55 AM
Seeing that nobody else has asked it, I guess I will.

wangbus, are you John K.?

Also, since you are Staff, thus allowed to peruse the entire forum's back-end database due to you needing to know what this one encompasses so to better build the next one, do you have access to our private PMs? If you don't, get it, for there's a wealth of information that could be gleaned there to augment a $1M USD payday.

~TMIBTCITW

PS: I devised a formula to determine the "intrinsic value" of this forum: IV = IV/F x F in which IV stands for intrinsic value and F represents BitcoinTalk. Somebody check my maths please, for I'm prone to errors after eating an entire 16" pizza from Rosati's (or sometimes on an empty stomach).
donator
Activity: 1419
Merit: 1015
February 17, 2014, 06:42:00 PM
A plug and play open source forum in Node.js might actually be worth $1 million dollars. Most of the widely used forums today are built in PHP so this could be just as big for Node.js as it is for the forum. Additionally, if this code is open source and integrates with BTC, it has wider applications.

*Puts on his tinfoil hat*

Since Augusto and Goat aren't directly saying it, I'll just be blunt so folks know why there is some flak about spending the money...

Federal (specifically DoD, but others as well) projects often come with an NDA for the developers to not share government work in their portfolios. Whenever I hear someone talk about NDAs, I assume government work. Given that this is going to be an open source forum that has some form of BTC and Trust integration, it would likely be highly valuable to various entities within Darknets as well. If designed intentionally with exploits in the open source version that are patched in the live version, an aspiring three-letter agency could use the success of a Node.js forum to promote adoption in some of these remoter areas of the web. Then, at a specified integration-point, they could exploit said software causing turmoil for hapless Darknet administrators.

*Takes tinfoil hat off*

Regardless of whoever is designing this software, security should be the primary focus or else you're going to get some really bad (and IMHO, quite-deserved) flak. I'd highly recommend keeping the existing security bounties and possibly even integrating or accounting for them during development of the project.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1195
February 17, 2014, 11:54:52 AM
I think we can expect some delays with such a big project but I think it will be worth it when it comes out even if the money was a little high its welll worth it if we have the best forum around.

Whatever happens people will still complain, unless it is completely revolutionary in forum technology, but whatever it looks like people will probably be disappointed. How can a million dollar years in the making forum live up to the hype?
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
February 15, 2014, 05:45:04 PM
Why don't we have the automated ad auction system, yet? It's so trivial for a 350k$ team that there is no excuse.

I could do it in a weekend for $25/hr. Just saying.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
February 17, 2014, 08:45:36 AM
I think we can expect some delays with such a big project but I think it will be worth it when it comes out even if the money was a little high its welll worth it if we have the best forum around.
global moderator
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Merit: 2717
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February 17, 2014, 08:42:11 AM
I can't wait for the new software are we expecting to see this a year from now or some time next year?

Around a year they said.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
February 17, 2014, 08:37:30 AM
I can't wait for the new software are we expecting to see this a year from now or some time next year?
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 502
Doesn't use these forums that often.
February 17, 2014, 05:14:27 AM
I'm pretty dissapointed that some of the money will go for an automated ad auction system, that will only work on a dying forum software, and will need to be ported to the new custom one after that. Is that really necessary?

The auction system is written in Node. It will be able to be used with the new software without much modification.
\o/
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
February 15, 2014, 01:47:57 PM
As a freelancer I know that, Wangbus will have to give Theymos his corporation's w-9 form, if they haven't done that already. That really should have been done before the transfer of the $350K.

Could you elaborate about that? For what exactly purpose the w-9 form is necessary?

Well when you work a full time job, you get a w-2. In freelancing you don't have that cause you are bouncing from job to job. w-2 is for income tax. So a w-9 is for consulting companies and freelancers that shows you are doing for work a company basically. They should have a w-9 as an S-corporation if memory serves me right.

TLDR w-9 is how you file for income tax when you are freelancer or consulting company which this job is.
N12
donator
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1010
February 16, 2014, 10:47:39 PM
Where is it apparent that the BTC I donated are explicitely for the purpose of creating a new forum? Theymos is free to make use of the funds as he best sees fit, in my view.

He asked for funds to make a new forum, if you wanted to just give funds to theymos, why not do it directly? Why send it to the new forum fund pile?


Source?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/get-donator-status-by-donating-10-btc-38071
https://bitcointalk.org/donate.html

contain nothing of what you say.
N12
donator
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1010
February 16, 2014, 09:25:58 PM
Where is it apparent that the BTC I donated are explicitely for the purpose of creating a new forum? Theymos is free to make use of the funds as he best sees fit, in my view.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
February 16, 2014, 07:39:40 PM
I hope that the new forum will not be to complicated otherwise it would just be a waste it be usee friendly otherwise no matter how much fancy features it will be hard to navigate and extremely annoying.
N12
donator
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1010
February 16, 2014, 07:36:14 PM


EDIT 2:  And what of the other 5 million dollars that's sitting around "doing nothing".  What are the plans for that.   If the forums costs are paid for by ads, then that money should be distributed back to donators at the very least (just to be clear, I haven't donated).

theymos said they will never happen.

had this forum only been paid for by ads there would not be so much drama. people who donated expected to have a forum by now.
Speak for yourself! Personally, I actually like the current forum and I hope the new one will be as "clean" in its design.
vip
Activity: 756
Merit: 504
February 16, 2014, 05:42:49 PM
that 50k vip investment could of made you one hell of a forum for your own site.

I am sure most of the donators/VIP could do more than a forum if they were properly reimbursed to remedy the situation. That amount of funds would much more productive in the donators/VIP hands rather in the hands of the current administrator.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1001
February 16, 2014, 04:57:48 PM


EDIT 2:  And what of the other 5 million dollars that's sitting around "doing nothing".  What are the plans for that.   If the forums costs are paid for by ads, then that money should be distributed back to donators at the very least (just to be clear, I haven't donated).

theymos said they will never happen.

had this forum only been paid for by ads there would not be so much drama. people who donated expected to have a forum by now.


that 50k vip investment could of made you one hell of a forum for your own site.
hero member
Activity: 599
Merit: 510
February 16, 2014, 12:48:45 PM
Good god someone is getting ripped off here!!!! I would have made a completely scalable system from the ground up for 350k and it would be tighter than mother gooses ass!!!!
legendary
Activity: 3192
Merit: 1279
Primedice.com, Stake.com
February 16, 2014, 06:51:10 AM
I'm not sure if this was answered already or within the scope of the project, I think it is important for Theymos to allocate funds towards design rather than only the back-end of the new forum. Would be nice if we had a really well designed forum to use. I could point you towards a few good firms if interested.

I also don't understand why use some no-name development studio when the pay is that high.

hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
February 16, 2014, 01:50:49 AM
For $350k, it's going to want to be a pretty fricking amazing forum.  

Happy to be proven wrong, but to me it just looks like Theymos hit the jackpot with all these donations and the rising price and is just enjoying the cash.   There's no logical reason why things have taken so ridiculously long to get done, and this whole "give shitloads of cash to a random group with no history" doesn't exactly inspire a lot of confidence.

Honestly I'm not particularly happy to have this place attached to Bitcoin in a big way (as it is) as it just comes across as amateur hour.

EDIT:  Wait, he's spending a million dollars?   I don't even know what to say to that.

EDIT 2:  And what of the other 5 million dollars that's sitting around "doing nothing".  What are the plans for that.   If the forums costs are paid for by ads, then that money should be distributed back to donators at the very least (just to be clear, I haven't donated).
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1001
February 16, 2014, 01:14:22 AM
nothing's gonna get done on the forums.  people donated when the value of BTC was low because they wanted a rank to show off.  the donations are likely redistributed to the top team or theymos is enjoying the money.  who doesn't like all that money.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
February 15, 2014, 09:52:31 PM
I'm sorry but anyone, anyone, trying to justify spending ONE MILLION DOLLARS on forum software should have their internet access revoked... among other things. Absolutely ludicrous.
Internet access is a right, not a privilege.

I wasn't speaking literally. Didn't think I'd have to state that.
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