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Talk to them, settle it out, and end this.
I did that and it didn't work, what else do you suggest?
For a guy who's analyzing everyone's comments line-by-line, you just skipped over my post and commented on 1 line. Is that fair?
To answer your question - make it work - your not in high school Andrew this is the real world. We can't run away from our issues.
I replied back with what I had a question on, what's the problem with that?
There is no problem with that. I just assumed as a friend you'd give me the decency of responding to my post.
I guess not.
Talk to them, settle it out, and end this.
I did that and it didn't work, what else do you suggest?
For a guy who's analyzing everyone's comments line-by-line, you just skipped over my post and commented on 1 line. Is that fair?
To answer your question - make it work - your not in high school Andrew this is the real world. We can't run away from our issues.
I replied back with what I had a question on, what's the problem with that?
Talk to them, settle it out, and end this.
I did that and it didn't work, what else do you suggest?
For a guy who's analyzing everyone's comments line-by-line, you just skipped over my post and commented on 1 line. Is that fair?
To answer your question - make it work - your not in high school Andrew this is the real world. We can't run away from our issues.
Talk to them, settle it out, and end this.
I did that and it didn't work, what else do you suggest?
What are you gonna do Andrew?
-Charlie
Touché -Charlie
Andrew,
I know the publishers side of your business, Im not involved in.
We've met in SF, and I've vouched for you on this forum when no one else did.
Is this whole thing really worth the few Bitcoins you owe to them? Why cant you just pay your publishers and be done with this.
Your whole companies reputation is being tarnished because of a few Bitcoins.
Moral issues aside, cmon dude this is bad business and you know it. The customer is always 100% right.
Talk to them, settle it out, and end this.
Your gonna lose all your advertisers, including myself if this does not get resolved. That was not a threat, its the simple truth.
What are you gonna do Andrew?
-Charlie
I know the publishers side of your business, Im not involved in.
We've met in SF, and I've vouched for you on this forum when no one else did.
Is this whole thing really worth the few Bitcoins you owe to them? Why cant you just pay your publishers and be done with this.
Your whole companies reputation is being tarnished because of a few Bitcoins.
Moral issues aside, cmon dude this is bad business and you know it. The customer is always 100% right.
Talk to them, settle it out, and end this.
Your gonna lose all your advertisers, including myself if this does not get resolved. That was not a threat, its the simple truth.
What are you gonna do Andrew?
-Charlie
This comment is effectively meaningless.
My service is almost fully automated, if they would of earned anything they would of been paid. They didn't lose any earnings since they were not earned. The complainer also runs a competing ad service.
In your opinion.
Let me quote to you Google's Adsense Terms:
As I stated earlier this policy is industry standard practice.
You allege to have used the service, since I do not have partners forum information it is just as likely you just made that up to spread more FUD.
What I have seen so far.
1. One complains about being banned and losing earnings
1. One complains about being banned and losing earnings
My service is almost fully automated, if they would of earned anything they would of been paid. They didn't lose any earnings since they were not earned. The complainer also runs a competing ad service.
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2. Owner being very cryptic about what the problem was. No clear answer.
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This is a private matter not a public one. As stated earlier we do not engage n dispute resolution in public forums since it is none of your armchair business.
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3. One correctly claims that if the clicks were "bad" the profit should be returned to the advertiser instead of charity
In your opinion.
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4. Owner doesn't have a clear stance to the: "If the clicks were not "bad" then no ban should have occured. If they were bad, then money should be returned to advertiser."
5. Owner draws our attention to the terms of service
6. Owner says "If you don't like the service, don't use it, very simple." effectively meaning OK you got me. Stop using it now you know and let me do the same to others
7. I'm quoting this from the terms "The Service may terminate your access to all or any part of the Website at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately." In my opinion cancelling a service without reason and keeping the earnings, is not at all a rational term.
5. Owner draws our attention to the terms of service
6. Owner says "If you don't like the service, don't use it, very simple." effectively meaning OK you got me. Stop using it now you know and let me do the same to others
7. I'm quoting this from the terms "The Service may terminate your access to all or any part of the Website at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately." In my opinion cancelling a service without reason and keeping the earnings, is not at all a rational term.
Let me quote to you Google's Adsense Terms:
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Program Participation. Participation in the Program is subject to Google’s prior approval and Your continued compliance with the Program Policies ("Program Policies"), located at https://www.google.com/adsense/policies, and/or such other URL as Google may provide from time to time. Google reserves the right to refuse participation to any applicant or participant at any time in its sole discretion.
As I stated earlier this policy is industry standard practice.
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I find the owner's stance too negative and a bit suspicious. Same with the TOS. Although as far as I'm concerned the above are more than enough for me to stop using the service, I do hope this clears up, to protect others if the service is indeed fraudulent or clear the owner's name, if the service is logical and legitimate.
You allege to have used the service, since I do not have partners forum information it is just as likely you just made that up to spread more FUD.
What I have seen so far.
1. One complains about being banned and losing earnings
2. Owner being very cryptic about what the problem was. No clear answer.
3. One correctly claims that if the clicks were "bad" the profit should be returned to the advertiser instead of charity
4. Owner doesn't have a clear stance to the: "If the clicks were not "bad" then no ban should have occured. If they were bad, then money should be returned to advertiser."
5. Owner draws our attention to the terms of service
6. Owner says "If you don't like the service, don't use it, very simple." effectively meaning OK you got me. Stop using it now you know and let me do the same to others
7. I'm quoting this from the terms "The Service may terminate your access to all or any part of the Website at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately." In my opinion cancelling a service without reason and keeping the earnings, is not at all a rational term.
I find the owner's stance too negative and a bit suspicious. Same with the TOS. Although as far as I'm concerned the above are more than enough for me to stop using the service, I do hope this clears up, to protect others if the service is indeed fraudulent or clear the owner's name, if the service is logical and legitimate.
1. One complains about being banned and losing earnings
2. Owner being very cryptic about what the problem was. No clear answer.
3. One correctly claims that if the clicks were "bad" the profit should be returned to the advertiser instead of charity
4. Owner doesn't have a clear stance to the: "If the clicks were not "bad" then no ban should have occured. If they were bad, then money should be returned to advertiser."
5. Owner draws our attention to the terms of service
6. Owner says "If you don't like the service, don't use it, very simple." effectively meaning OK you got me. Stop using it now you know and let me do the same to others
7. I'm quoting this from the terms "The Service may terminate your access to all or any part of the Website at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately." In my opinion cancelling a service without reason and keeping the earnings, is not at all a rational term.
I find the owner's stance too negative and a bit suspicious. Same with the TOS. Although as far as I'm concerned the above are more than enough for me to stop using the service, I do hope this clears up, to protect others if the service is indeed fraudulent or clear the owner's name, if the service is logical and legitimate.
Definitely not the money making platform it was 'advertised' to be. Not going to get into details, but I get somewheres around 100x profits from Operation Fabulous.
Everyone should just use www.operationfabulous.com, it clearly is a trustworthy platform.
Everyone should just use www.operationfabulous.com, it clearly is a trustworthy platform.
There will always be fraud in CPC advertising and I take diligent actions to stop and preempt click fraud
Please provide proof of your accusations about fraudulent traffic!If you cannot do this, I and other users affected by your actions reserve the right to fill a lawsuit against you.
Next time, get a lawyer.
What am I saying. It should have been obvious that you didn't know what you were doing when you tried committing trademark infringement on Google.You didn't answer the question so I will assume you are not a lawyer or have any idea what you are talking about. If you don't like the service, don't use it, very simple.
For the benefit of those who were harmed by Andrew Bitcoiner, none of my information or advice constitutes legal advice. I'd advise getting a lawyer to discuss your legal options.
I second that, please have your lawyer contact me on http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/support.php
Next time, get a lawyer.
What am I saying. It should have been obvious that you didn't know what you were doing when you tried committing trademark infringement on Google.You didn't answer the question so I will assume you are not a lawyer or have any idea what you are talking about. If you don't like the service, don't use it, very simple.
For the benefit of those who were harmed by Andrew Bitcoiner, none of my information or advice constitutes legal advice. I'd advise getting a lawyer to discuss your legal options.
Next time, get a lawyer.
What am I saying. It should have been obvious that you didn't know what you were doing when you tried committing trademark infringement on Google.You didn't answer the question so I will assume you are not a lawyer or have any idea what you are talking about. If you don't like the service, don't use it, very simple.
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