The new criteria look promising.
"1. A heavy emphasis will be placed on speed of payments. Several books immediately pay out after the game has been graded. Those are the books with the least risk involved. Sweat the game, not the payout is not just a slogan. It should be a way of life for these bitcoin books. Bitcoin books have a much higher standard involved than post-up books because there are no fees involved and no need for a third party processor."
Based on this, I'd suggest that Anonibet be lower than A.
"We process all withdrawal requests manually in order to provide a safe and secure environment to our customers. Withdrawal requests between 08:00 – 22:00 GMT may take 1-2 hours to be processed. Withdrawal request made after 22:00 GMT will be processed the next day after 08:00 GMT..."
"We process all withdrawal requests manually in order to provide a safe and secure environment to our customers."
I'm unclear why this is more safe and secure than the automated systems.
I feel it relates instead to not having the software to do automated payments.
And the down time from 22:00 GMT to 8:00 GMT shows a lack of staffing.
Also - "After I made a deposit, can I withdraw my funds without placing any bets?
Clients are required to wager the whole amount that was deposited, before any withdrawal request. If you want to withdraw funds without making a wager a 5% handling fee is charged."
I like to deposit an amount I feel is about what I'll need, but sometimes the line I want is gone.
Or I find other aspects of the book I don't like that I wasn't aware of previously.
Sometimes I deposit more than I'll need because there's a chance I'll be making several bets and I want to save time later if the funds are needed.
It costs the book nothing to return the funds. Zero. There should never be a "handling fee" with bitcoin books.
Also, if this non-standard rule exists, it shouldn't just be buried in the T&C - it should be prominently displayed, at the least on the "Deposit" page.
Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. - page 43. (Read 89558 times)
April 07, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
April 07, 2014, 12:49:44 PM
Peeps - Where is the list of the new criteria you're planning to use to rate books?
Went back a few pages in this thread but can't find it.
Was that post in its own separate thread?
Can you post the criteria in this thread?
Went back a few pages in this thread but can't find it.
Was that post in its own separate thread?
Can you post the criteria in this thread?
1. A heavy emphasis will be placed on speed of payments. Several books immediately pay out after the game has been graded. Those are the books with the least risk involved. Sweat the game, not the payout is not just a slogan. It should be a way of life for these bitcoin books. Bitcoin books have a much higher standard involved than post-up books because there are no fees involved and no need for a third party processor.
2. Grading time. Most postup books have automated grading; the winners and losers are determined minutes after the game is over. Bitcoin books that do this show that they have invested in their software. Books that rely on an individual to grade all games tend to have a high degree of risk.
3. Books not requiring personal information including an email address will be graded higher. Anonymity is a plus.
4. Date opened if less than 2 years. Bitcoin has just taken off in the past year, so it's unfair for one to compare a top bitcoin book with a post-up book like Pinnacle. But it is still important that a book shows itself to not be a flash in the pan. The longer a period of time a book has been open, the better its track record.
5. Limits. In general, the higher the limits, the deeper the bankroll of the sportsbook. If a bitcoin book takes high limits and pays out quickly, it shows its strength.
6. Sports and options offered. Uniqueness of lines and betting options is a positive.
7. Mobile betting. The ability to bet on the go can be important to some.
8. Live betting. The more, the better. Offering live betting isn't easy; the ones that do offer live betting lines tend to be stronger in general.
9. Customer service. The better the customer service, the more professional the book.
10. Interface. Ease of use is important.
11. Whether or not the book requires a deposit account. Depositing into a bitcoin book is a much bigger risk to the bettor, especially since these books have not built up a strong history that shows their staying ability.
Awesome criteria! Looking forward to seeing the new ratings.
Keep up the great work Peeps!
April 07, 2014, 12:08:54 PM
Peeps - Where is the list of the new criteria you're planning to use to rate books?
Went back a few pages in this thread but can't find it.
Was that post in its own separate thread?
Can you post the criteria in this thread?
Went back a few pages in this thread but can't find it.
Was that post in its own separate thread?
Can you post the criteria in this thread?
1. A heavy emphasis will be placed on speed of payments. Several books immediately pay out after the game has been graded. Those are the books with the least risk involved. Sweat the game, not the payout is not just a slogan. It should be a way of life for these bitcoin books. Bitcoin books have a much higher standard involved than post-up books because there are no fees involved and no need for a third party processor.
2. Grading time. Most postup books have automated grading; the winners and losers are determined minutes after the game is over. Bitcoin books that do this show that they have invested in their software. Books that rely on an individual to grade all games tend to have a high degree of risk.
3. Books not requiring personal information including an email address will be graded higher. Anonymity is a plus.
4. Date opened if less than 2 years. Bitcoin has just taken off in the past year, so it's unfair for one to compare a top bitcoin book with a post-up book like Pinnacle. But it is still important that a book shows itself to not be a flash in the pan. The longer a period of time a book has been open, the better its track record.
5. Limits. In general, the higher the limits, the deeper the bankroll of the sportsbook. If a bitcoin book takes high limits and pays out quickly, it shows its strength.
6. Sports and options offered. Uniqueness of lines and betting options is a positive.
7. Mobile betting. The ability to bet on the go can be important to some.
8. Live betting. The more, the better. Offering live betting isn't easy; the ones that do offer live betting lines tend to be stronger in general.
9. Customer service. The better the customer service, the more professional the book.
10. Interface. Ease of use is important.
11. Whether or not the book requires a deposit account. Depositing into a bitcoin book is a much bigger risk to the bettor, especially since these books have not built up a strong history that shows their staying ability.
April 06, 2014, 06:51:13 PM
Peeps - Where is the list of the new criteria you're planning to use to rate books?
Went back a few pages in this thread but can't find it.
Was that post in its own separate thread?
Can you post the criteria in this thread?
Went back a few pages in this thread but can't find it.
Was that post in its own separate thread?
Can you post the criteria in this thread?
April 06, 2014, 04:38:08 PM
Please move coinbet to F , i have heard a lot people not getting paid by them .
Please post facts when you hear of something like this. So far it is unfounded and I haven't received any other complaints. April 06, 2014, 12:29:20 PM
Please move coinbet to F , i have heard a lot people not getting paid by them .
I just shot them an email. Is anyone having problems with Coinbet? I know that they have a no bashing rule so feel free to PM me. April 06, 2014, 02:33:59 AM
Please move coinbet to F , i have heard a lot people not getting paid by them .
April 05, 2014, 07:00:05 PM
So what happened to that sportsbook with the 3x rollover 100% bonus? They disappear yet?
Stakebet took the money and ran.As for stakeBTC, I made a wager of 1 BTC on a game and came online and found out that somehow my bet hadn't been accepted or placed when I know I had. Funny how a week or so later they ran with someone's 45 BTC.
April 05, 2014, 05:45:27 PM
So what happened to that sportsbook with the 3x rollover 100% bonus? They disappear yet?
Stakebet took the money and ran.As for stakeBTC, I made a wager of 1 BTC on a game and came online and found out that somehow my bet hadn't been accepted or placed when I know I had. Funny how a week or so later they ran with someone's 45 BTC.
April 05, 2014, 05:42:05 PM
So what happened to that sportsbook with the 3x rollover 100% bonus? They disappear yet?
Stakebet took the money and ran. April 05, 2014, 02:27:40 PM
So what happened to that sportsbook with the 3x rollover 100% bonus? They disappear yet?
April 05, 2014, 02:23:37 PM
Is coinbet offline? Another update? Got no email about any downtime.
Looks like they are back up. April 05, 2014, 11:25:32 AM
Is coinbet offline? Another update? Got no email about any downtime.
April 05, 2014, 09:16:04 AM
How the books will be rated and weighted emphasis in order.
1. A heavy emphasis will be placed on speed of payments. Several books immediately pay out after the game has been graded. Those are the books with the least risk involved. Sweat the game, not the payout is not just a slogan. It should be a way of life for these bitcoin books. Bitcoin books have a much higher standard involved than post-up books because there are no fees involved and no need for a third party processor.
2. Grading time. Most postup books have automated grading; the winners and losers are determined minutes after the game is over. Bitcoin books that do this show that they have invested in their software. Books that rely on an individual to grade all games tend to have a high degree of risk.
3. Books not requiring personal information including an email address will be graded higher. Anonymity is a plus.
4. Date opened if less than 2 years. Bitcoin has just taken off in the past year, so it's unfair for one to compare a top bitcoin book with a post-up book like Pinnacle. But it is still important that a book shows itself to not be a flash in the pan. The longer a period of time a book has been open, the better its track record.
5. Limits. In general, the higher the limits, the deeper the bankroll of the sportsbook. If a bitcoin book takes high limits and pays out quickly, it shows its strength.
6. Sports and options offered. Uniqueness of lines and betting options is a positive.
7. Mobile betting. The ability to bet on the go can be important to some.
8. Live betting. The more, the better. Offering live betting isn't easy; the ones that do offer live betting lines tend to be stronger in general.
9. Customer service. The better the customer service, the more professional the book.
10. Interface. Ease of use is important.
11. Whether or not the book requires a deposit account. Depositing into a bitcoin book is a much bigger risk to the bettor, especially since these books have not built up a strong history that shows their staying ability.
1. A heavy emphasis will be placed on speed of payments. Several books immediately pay out after the game has been graded. Those are the books with the least risk involved. Sweat the game, not the payout is not just a slogan. It should be a way of life for these bitcoin books. Bitcoin books have a much higher standard involved than post-up books because there are no fees involved and no need for a third party processor.
2. Grading time. Most postup books have automated grading; the winners and losers are determined minutes after the game is over. Bitcoin books that do this show that they have invested in their software. Books that rely on an individual to grade all games tend to have a high degree of risk.
3. Books not requiring personal information including an email address will be graded higher. Anonymity is a plus.
4. Date opened if less than 2 years. Bitcoin has just taken off in the past year, so it's unfair for one to compare a top bitcoin book with a post-up book like Pinnacle. But it is still important that a book shows itself to not be a flash in the pan. The longer a period of time a book has been open, the better its track record.
5. Limits. In general, the higher the limits, the deeper the bankroll of the sportsbook. If a bitcoin book takes high limits and pays out quickly, it shows its strength.
6. Sports and options offered. Uniqueness of lines and betting options is a positive.
7. Mobile betting. The ability to bet on the go can be important to some.
8. Live betting. The more, the better. Offering live betting isn't easy; the ones that do offer live betting lines tend to be stronger in general.
9. Customer service. The better the customer service, the more professional the book.
10. Interface. Ease of use is important.
11. Whether or not the book requires a deposit account. Depositing into a bitcoin book is a much bigger risk to the bettor, especially since these books have not built up a strong history that shows their staying ability.
I really like your work Peeps and agree with all your points.
edit: I also share gogo's concerns.
April 05, 2014, 04:53:49 AM
Jetwin has added anonymous accounts – good move. But still, to be really competitive,
they need to process withdrawals faster than in 2 hours.
April 05, 2014, 01:44:47 AM
Not sure if anyone has posted about CoinDrafts or not, I havent read back at all, but I have been using this site for a couple months now (maybe longer, idk im tired 
)
www.CoinDrafts.com
They started as a Daily Fantasy Sports site and just recently added a Sportsbook. Multiple withdraws that were successful, not instant but very fast grading of bets & also the fantasy sports games, live chat where the admin is almost always on, and some good guaranteed prize pools. Only issues Ive run into is bc the site is new there are a few bugs here and there, but the admins are fast to respond & fix any time I mention it to them on email or live chat.
Bitcointalk Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coindraftscom-bitcoin-sportsbook-fantasy-sports-no-accounts-live-chat-472907
They also offer a 0.005 deposit for new users in the Games & Rounds section somewhere.
Went to the sports book to take a look. For some reason none of the lines are showing for me.)www.CoinDrafts.com
They started as a Daily Fantasy Sports site and just recently added a Sportsbook. Multiple withdraws that were successful, not instant but very fast grading of bets & also the fantasy sports games, live chat where the admin is almost always on, and some good guaranteed prize pools. Only issues Ive run into is bc the site is new there are a few bugs here and there, but the admins are fast to respond & fix any time I mention it to them on email or live chat.
Bitcointalk Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coindraftscom-bitcoin-sportsbook-fantasy-sports-no-accounts-live-chat-472907
They also offer a 0.005 deposit for new users in the Games & Rounds section somewhere.
April 05, 2014, 12:48:09 AM
Not sure if anyone has posted about CoinDrafts or not, I havent read back at all, but I have been using this site for a couple months now (maybe longer, idk im tired )
www.CoinDrafts.com
They started as a Daily Fantasy Sports site and just recently added a Sportsbook. Multiple withdraws that were successful, not instant but very fast grading of bets & also the fantasy sports games, live chat where the admin is almost always on, and some good guaranteed prize pools. Only issues Ive run into is bc the site is new there are a few bugs here and there, but the admins are fast to respond & fix any time I mention it to them on email or live chat.
Bitcointalk Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coindraftscom-bitcoin-sportsbook-fantasy-sports-no-accounts-live-chat-472907
They also offer a 0.005 deposit for new users in the Games & Rounds section somewhere.
Went to the sports book to take a look. For some reason none of the lines are showing for me. )www.CoinDrafts.com
They started as a Daily Fantasy Sports site and just recently added a Sportsbook. Multiple withdraws that were successful, not instant but very fast grading of bets & also the fantasy sports games, live chat where the admin is almost always on, and some good guaranteed prize pools. Only issues Ive run into is bc the site is new there are a few bugs here and there, but the admins are fast to respond & fix any time I mention it to them on email or live chat.
Bitcointalk Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coindraftscom-bitcoin-sportsbook-fantasy-sports-no-accounts-live-chat-472907
They also offer a 0.005 deposit for new users in the Games & Rounds section somewhere.
April 05, 2014, 12:38:07 AM
Anonibet just doubled their limits. They seem to be a must have soccer book.
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Dear Anonibet Friends,
As of 04.04.2014 we have doubled up all our betting limits in all sports.
Regards,
Michael
As of 04.04.2014 we have doubled up all our betting limits in all sports.
Regards,
Michael
April 04, 2014, 11:16:10 AM
I have been betting for about a week at coinbett.cc, haven't had a problem with the actual wagering or site functions. I have been doing quite well and 4 days ago did a test payout via bitcoin and in my transaction log it says "failed" with no explanation. So 48 hours ago I initiated another bitcoin payout and a Netteller payout. The site says both of these payouts will be a credited within 24-48 hours. I have received nothing as of yet and am starting to get worried if I was scammed out of the $200 I deposited initially.. Any feedback on anyone actually getting payouts from coinbet.cc??
Have you met the rollover requirements for bonus funds, as stated in our terms and conditions? Email [email protected] and we will get this worked out for you if there's a problem. Thanks!
April 04, 2014, 05:10:45 AM
Nice work
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