Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. - page 47. (Read 89535 times)

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Is anyone playing at Jetwin?

"A" rated books
Anonibet A
NitrogenSports A-
Betcoinsports A-

"B"rated books
Casinobitco.in B
Cloudbet B  
CoinBet B
DirectBet
SBObitcoin B-

"C" rated books
Bitbm C
BTCSportsmatch

"D" rated books
Jetwin
Bitcoinlivebets D-

"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
Bitsaloon
StakeBTC
BitBook (closed)

Nitrogen Sports raised to "A-". Very strong player support. They have had no problems with withdrawals. Deposits and withdrawals are instant.

BTCSportsmatch raised to a "C" : Credible players say that this is a must have book for your arsenal. It still can't be overlooked that they did stiff a player 8 BTC when their sports book was in operation. Another negative is that when a player makes an offer, they may get a different price.

Here's an email from Cloudbet that I received a little while ago.

Sent a quarter of a coin to cloudbet over 14 hours ago. 95+ confirms no response via email or on here. They were online a couple hours ago, I posted my complaint and sent them a message 12 hours ago. AVOID THIS COMPANY.

I'm playing with you for the NCAA tournament to see how it goes.

BetVip- Thank you for making me aware of Bitcoinlivebets. They are having major problems with grading and payouts. They are dropped to "D-".

Others, please make me aware of situations that I have overlooked as BetVIP did. I try to read the threads from each book daily but I did make a big mistake with Bitcoinlivebets.

With BTCSportsmatch, if someone is in contact with the owner it would be appreciated to ask him to jump in the thread to give his side of the 8 BTC no pay.

"A" rated books
Anonibet A
Betcoinsports A-

"B"rated books
Casinobitco.in B
Cloudbet B  
CoinBet B
DirectBet
NitrogenSports B
SBObitcoin B-

"C" rated books
Bitbm C

"D" rated books
BTCSportsmatch
Jetwin
Bitcoinlivebets D-

"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
Bitsaloon
StakeBTC
BitBook (closed)

I rated Bitcoinlivebets an "F" until they caught up with their payments and they received poster support. The poster's opinions mean a lot in the ratings. If Bitcoinlivebets starts having problems again, they will have a grade drop.

The reason that I haven't rated your book yet is that some payout history is needed. You seem as though you know what you are doing but automated grading and speed of payments is very important.

Because it's generous...? It's a launch promotion - we have a marketing budget

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It seems that you are doing nothing but having fun with your dealers instead of fixing your deposit problems.

Bitcoinlivebets

Guys from Germany are absolutely green; they know nothing about gambling business. Their site was an arbers’ paradise.  Sure bets profit ran up to 20% and they were brave enough to accept bets of BTC 30 and more on such events! Each could get a no-risk profit of BTC 6 from one single bet.  And of course they ran out of money…

They made up some kind of mythical statistics and are selling their company’s shares, being the only buyers most probably. A reasonable person, even being deadly drunk, will never throw his money in that way!

They borrowed money and in 2 months paid off debts to their users, good guys! They managed to find more money to change their odds data provider. They are behaving like small children crying all around the forum – that soon all will be fine with both withdrawals and software – not understanding that to integrate new Feed qualitatively, having 2 IT persons as a maximum it is a 3-4 months task for pre-live bets and plus the same time for in-play.

In addition, they don’t see again that their site is full of sure bets and, as a result, abounds in arbitragers. Odds monitoring service is a rather expensive thing – they definitely cannot afford that.

I’ll say nothing about Bitcoinlivebets’ interface, it’s just porn!!!

Peeps, how could you rate Bitcoinlivebets as C-?

Bitcoinlivebets has maximum 4-6 months left; it’s just a death agony!

Bicoinlivebets - prove me that I am wrong! If you show me that you owe at least BTC 50 I will apologize and take my words away.

They started to place ad banners in their website to earn money – what a joke bookie!

They included some more languages that actually must be called Google translated Monkey Languages! Would better they not….

How couldn’t people notice the obvious, hey Peeps?!

We are working on expanding our product offering, improving each of our products, and improving our interface. Thanks for your feedback!

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It's a shame you feel that way because one of our dealers - Natalya - just told me she thought you were cute!

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Goxcraft, perhaps you completely missed the fact, despite it being posted everywhere and even sent out to our players, that we are in the final stages of completely overhauling our entire site and platform. Be patient, improvements take time and Rome wasn't built in a day. We are, as we speak, reintroducing many of our features and options, but we have to do so one at a time.. it's not like we can just flip a switch and be done. Everything has to be tested, make sure it works with other parts of our site, make sure it works with the new platform, then rolled out slowly and surely. For example, we rolled out a whole bunch of changes to the front end appearance of our NHL and NBA lines just last night and are getting great responses to the new look. Like I said, please be patient.

As far as your other beef, are you, a bitcoin enthusiast, actually complaining about not having government oversight or regulation? That's kind of ironic and disappointing, TBH. I think the community does a fine job of regulating itself, but you're entitled to your opinion. I'm not even going to say anything further about that.

As we've said before, if you'd like to lend your feedback to the development process as we roll out version 2.0 of our platform, we'd love to have your input if you want to send your thoughts to [email protected]

I agree that a book with an un-addressed payout dispute should have its (negative) rating frozen until the issue is addressed.

Back when I saw the un-addressed complaint about BTCSportsbet on SBR, I contacted the owner of BTCSportsmatch (BTCSM).  On BTCSM you can chat with other users who are logged in.  I opened a chat with him and asked him what was going on with that complaint.  He said he didn't know because he had sold his ownership stake in BTCSportsbet about 2-3 years ago (I am going off memory, can't remember exactly how long he said it had been) and no longer had any connection to the site.  He said he did hear about the complaint but that he didn't personally put much stock in it because he knew the new owners had a good reputation even before they had purchased the site.

I didn't even realize that BTCSportsbet had recently closed shop until reading about it in this thread.  It's pretty damning they never addressed the issue and then closed.

I think BTCSportsmatch should comment here on bitcointalk.  I understand if they are trying to keep a low profile (for legal reasons).  I understand if they want to ignore SBR, who outright refused to review them back in the day because SBR couldn't figure out how BTC worked (SBR still says BTC is a fad and no BTC book will exist within a couple of years, although they now say they will review BTC books soon).  I don't see any reason they shouldn't comment on this issue on bitcointalk though.

Firstly about CoinBet.

CoinBet is a quite misleading book, which does not deserve rate B.

CoinBet has a terrible loading time. It seems that they do not have any CEO specialist in their team or if they do, these specialists are not competent at all.

CoinBet has a very limited bet offer. At this point they mislead us when hiding their poor bet offer by showing, for example, +220 next to the betting lines, as if they provide additional 220 bets. Actually they show us the number of different outcomes – 1X2 etc. With normal bookmakers this number corresponds to the side bets of the same event. 

Despite having slogan “Bet Safely, Bet Securely, Bet Anonymously”, the option “Anonymous mode” does not work, which is again misleading.

CoinBet deceives us, directly or indirectly, by presenting a lot of Payment systems in the footnote, while actually there is only one available – Bitcoin.

In their FAQ is stated “CoinBet holds its gaming licenses and permits in Costa Rica.” They again failed in formulation. Actually, Costa Rica does not issue any gambling license. Data processing license is the only thing you can get from Costa Rica, which allows you to connect different Payment systems. All Costa Rican companies are self-regulated. And in case of dispute arises user cannot rely on the help of any regulatory body.

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