Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. - page 51. (Read 89558 times)
March 16, 2014, 06:29:24 PM
I'd like to get more input from nscala. If he is placing offers that are immediately accepted, then most likely a bot is accepting offers immediately. If this is the case, then you can make an offer. If it's not immediately accepted, take it down.
March 16, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
I just received verification on this. If you make an offer at BTCSportsmatch and there is a line change, your offer will stand at the new line.
I don't understand how neither you nor nscala1 are not disturbed by this.
If I understand correctly, if I want Lakers -1 and it goes to -2, someone can match me at the changed line of -2?
Or does it only mean that my offer stands if the line improves for me? E.g. I want Lakers -2, it changes to Lakers -1, and I get matched at the better line.
Likewise, if I want Lakers -2 -110, and it goes to -2 -120, someone can match me at the worse line (which I don't want)?
I must be misunderstanding something, as this would be a disaster and I can't imagine any exchange functioning in this manner and having customers.
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BTCSportsmatch : This is an exchange that has been up for 2 years and has potential. You get an actual account that you put bitcoins into so you know what has been accepted and what is not accepted. Winners pay a 1% fee and the lines are Pinny no-vig. The problem is that if there are line changes, your offer moves to the line change price and it's good unless you cancel prior to an acceptance.
"The problem is that if there are line changes, your offer moves to the line change price and it's good unless you cancel prior to an acceptance."
This makes the site worthless.
The only exception would be if there is a standing offer which one wants to accept immediately.
Posting an offer to buy or sell only to get a different line and/or different odds makes this site unplayable.
March 16, 2014, 06:24:10 PM
I just received verification on this. If you make an offer at BTCSportsmatch and there is a line change, your offer will stand at the new line.
I don't understand how neither you nor nscala1 are not disturbed by this.
If I understand correctly, if I want Lakers -1 and it goes to -2, someone can match me at the changed line of -2?
Or does it only mean that my offer stands if the line improves for me? E.g. I want Lakers -2, it changes to Lakers -1, and I get matched at the better line.
Likewise, if I want Lakers -2 -110, and it goes to -2 -120, someone can match me at the worse line (which I don't want)?
I must be misunderstanding something, as this would be a disaster and I can't imagine any exchange functioning in this manner and having customers.
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BTCSportsmatch : This is an exchange that has been up for 2 years and has potential. You get an actual account that you put bitcoins into so you know what has been accepted and what is not accepted. Winners pay a 1% fee and the lines are Pinny no-vig. The problem is that if there are line changes, your offer moves to the line change price and it's good unless you cancel prior to an acceptance.
"The problem is that if there are line changes, your offer moves to the line change price and it's good unless you cancel prior to an acceptance."
This makes the site worthless.
The only exception would be if there is a standing offer which one wants to accept immediately.
But as you mentioned, there is almost no liquidity and very few offers.
Posting an offer to buy or sell only to get a different line and/or different odds makes this site unplayable.
March 16, 2014, 05:53:12 PM
Is anyone else playing at BTCSportsmatch?
March 16, 2014, 05:50:22 PM
There are a lot of things that I don't like about BTCSportsmatch but I want to look into it more and get player feedback before a change in rating. They are currently a "D". I really could care less about being anonymous but they opened in 2011 and are anonymous.
They don't have a lot of players online and have no offers up in small markets. It looks like there are bots that are immediately accepting offers. nscala just brought up the discussion on BTCSportsmatch and more time is needed for an accurate assessment.
They don't have a lot of players online and have no offers up in small markets. It looks like there are bots that are immediately accepting offers. nscala just brought up the discussion on BTCSportsmatch and more time is needed for an accurate assessment.
March 16, 2014, 05:42:34 PM
Thanks DirectBet, Jetwin and Casinobitco.in for posting the NCAA information.
March 16, 2014, 05:37:08 PM
I just received verification on this. If you make an offer at BTCSportsmatch and there is a line change, your offer will stand at the new line.
I don't understand how neither you nor nscala1 are not disturbed by this.
If I understand correctly, if I want Lakers -1 and it goes to -2, someone can match me at the changed line of -2?
Or does it only mean that my offer stands if the line improves for me? E.g. I want Lakers -2, it changes to Lakers -1, and I get matched at the better line.
Likewise, if I want Lakers -2 -110, and it goes to -2 -120, someone can match me at the worse line (which I don't want)?
I must be misunderstanding something, as this would be a disaster and I can't imagine any exchange functioning in this manner and having customers.
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BTCSportsmatch : This is an exchange that has been up for 2 years and has potential. You get an actual account that you put bitcoins into so you know what has been accepted and what is not accepted. Winners pay a 1% fee and the lines are Pinny no-vig. The problem is that if there are line changes, your offer moves to the line change price and it's good unless you cancel prior to an acceptance.
March 16, 2014, 05:35:37 PM
In post #1, you still haven't corrected your misspelling of casinobitco.in - "Casinobitcoin B", although you acknowledged the misspelling a few weeks ago.
Since so many bitcoin sportsbooks have similar names, I feel it's important to use the correct names.
As well as being professional. And preventing people from being scammed by phishing sites which try to trap people who misspell a site's name.
I'm unclear as to why you wouldn't want to correct this.
corrected. There's no reason. Some books are .com, some .cc and others .eu. I think that I always leave that out. Casinobitco.in even uses the handle of "casinobitco".Since so many bitcoin sportsbooks have similar names, I feel it's important to use the correct names.
As well as being professional. And preventing people from being scammed by phishing sites which try to trap people who misspell a site's name.
I'm unclear as to why you wouldn't want to correct this.
gogo- if I misspell it in the future, it's not a slight against you. I just may not remember since I do it the other way with the rest of the books.
March 16, 2014, 05:08:33 PM
In post #1, you still haven't corrected your misspelling of casinobitco.in - "Casinobitcoin B", although you acknowledged the misspelling a few weeks ago.
Since so many bitcoin sportsbooks have similar names, I feel it's important to use the correct names.
As well as being professional. And preventing people from being scammed by phishing sites which try to trap people who misspell a site's name.
I'm unclear as to why you wouldn't want to correct this.
Since so many bitcoin sportsbooks have similar names, I feel it's important to use the correct names.
As well as being professional. And preventing people from being scammed by phishing sites which try to trap people who misspell a site's name.
I'm unclear as to why you wouldn't want to correct this.
March 16, 2014, 04:49:36 PM
I just received verification on this. If you make an offer at BTCSportsmatch and there is a line change, your offer will stand at the new line.
I don't understand how neither you nor nscala1 are not disturbed by this.
If I understand correctly, if I want Lakers -1 and it goes to -2, someone can match me at the changed line of -2?
Or does it only mean that my offer stands if the line improves for me? E.g. I want Lakers -2, it changes to Lakers -1, and I get matched at the better line.
Likewise, if I want Lakers -2 -110, and it goes to -2 -120, someone can match me at the worse line (which I don't want)?
I must be misunderstanding something, as this would be a disaster and I can't imagine any exchange functioning in this manner and having customers.
March 16, 2014, 04:13:04 PM
1- All of the above: Sides, Spreads, totals, and props (including odds to win tourney or region)
2- A few days before the games, around 1.5 BTC... day of the games up to 5 BTC depending upon how much action we've received on a given side.
3- No, but we will have 2nd half wagers for every game.
Odds will be viewable, without login, here: https://www.casinobitco.in/bet-college-basketball
-Tim
2- A few days before the games, around 1.5 BTC... day of the games up to 5 BTC depending upon how much action we've received on a given side.
3- No, but we will have 2nd half wagers for every game.
Odds will be viewable, without login, here: https://www.casinobitco.in/bet-college-basketball
-Tim
Books- I don't want to take this thread too far off course but the NCAA tournament is right around the corner and the following may be of interest to players:
1. Are you taking bets on the individual games? sides, totals, props?
2. What are the limits?
3. Will you have live betting?
1. Are you taking bets on the individual games? sides, totals, props?
2. What are the limits?
3. Will you have live betting?
March 16, 2014, 03:58:24 PM
Books- I don't want to take this thread too far off course but the NCAA tournament is right around the corner and the following may be of interest to players:
1. Are you taking bets on the individual games? sides, totals, props?
2. What are the limits?
3. Will you have live betting?
JETWIN:1. Are you taking bets on the individual games? sides, totals, props?
2. What are the limits?
3. Will you have live betting?
1. We are offering 14 different bet types for each NCAA game (some of them: Highest Scoring Quarter; Total Margin Ranges; Additional Totals; Double Result)
2. We have approx. 1 BTC limit for each bet type
3. No.
March 16, 2014, 02:38:05 PM
Betcoin posted this in another thread.
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LIVE WAGERING - ALL SPORTS ***
NCAA BASKETBALL - LIVE WAGERING
BASKETBALL GAME LINES
NBA
NCAA BASKETBALL - MEN
NBA - 1ST HALVES
NCAA BASKETBALL MEN 1ST HALVES
NBA - QUARTERS
NCAA BASKETBALL MEN 2ND HALVES
-BASKETBALL PROPS AND FUTURES
NBA - 2013/14 CHAMPIONSHIP - ODDS TO WIN******2014
NBA - TEAM TO SCORE 1ST WINS GAME
NBA - DOUBLE RESULT
NBA - SUNDAY NIGHT GAME PROPS
NBA - GAME TEAM TOTALS
NBA - MARGIN OF VICTORY
NBA - EXACT POINTS SCORED
NBA - PLAYER PROP TOTALS
NBA - TIED AT END OF EACH QUARTER PROPS
NBA - TOTAL POINTS SCORED (INCLUDES OT)
NBA - TO WIN TV PROPS
NCAA BASKETBALL - LIVE WAGERING
BASKETBALL GAME LINES
NBA
NCAA BASKETBALL - MEN
NBA - 1ST HALVES
NCAA BASKETBALL MEN 1ST HALVES
NBA - QUARTERS
NCAA BASKETBALL MEN 2ND HALVES
-BASKETBALL PROPS AND FUTURES
NBA - 2013/14 CHAMPIONSHIP - ODDS TO WIN******2014
NBA - TEAM TO SCORE 1ST WINS GAME
NBA - DOUBLE RESULT
NBA - SUNDAY NIGHT GAME PROPS
NBA - GAME TEAM TOTALS
NBA - MARGIN OF VICTORY
NBA - EXACT POINTS SCORED
NBA - PLAYER PROP TOTALS
NBA - TIED AT END OF EACH QUARTER PROPS
NBA - TOTAL POINTS SCORED (INCLUDES OT)
NBA - TO WIN TV PROPS
March 16, 2014, 10:39:36 AM
Books- I don't want to take this thread too far off course but the NCAA tournament is right around the corner and the following may be of interest to players:
1. Are you taking bets on the individual games? sides, totals, props?
2. What are the limits?
3. Will you have live betting?
1. Are you taking bets on the individual games? sides, totals, props?
2. What are the limits?
3. Will you have live betting?
DirectBet :
1. We take bets on individual NCAA games. We offer bets on MoneyLine, Total Match Points and Spreads.
Currently there are 4 games available for betting :
http://www.directbet.eu/Events.cshtml?EventType=Basketball
2. The maximum amount you can profit from each individual bet is approx. 7.8 BTC, so if for example the bet decimal odds is 1.5, the maximum you can bet is approx. 15.5 BTC.
3. Yes.
March 16, 2014, 09:54:42 AM
Hey guys, just launched our enterprise-grade sports book at BetVIP.com. Feel free to check it out and let us know what you think we'd love to hear from you!
Nice setup but the high vig means you aren't going to get much action.
Lower the hold and increase volume. It's a simple way to doing business in a competitive environment.
Hi Waylon, thank you for the response. Our initially very high vig was unfortunately an error from our dev department and we are attending to the problem. Our hold will definitely be competitive.
Kind regards,
The BetVIP team
March 16, 2014, 02:16:31 AM
Books- I don't want to take this thread too far off course but the NCAA tournament is right around the corner and the following may be of interest to players:
1. Are you taking bets on the individual games? sides, totals, props?
2. What are the limits?
3. Will you have live betting?
1. Are you taking bets on the individual games? sides, totals, props?
2. What are the limits?
3. Will you have live betting?
March 16, 2014, 12:52:07 AM
If you hop on the site at any given time, I admit the liquidity is not very high. BUT when i put offers up they were accepted. I am absolutely loving it and my review is completely unbiased. Good luck if you try it. I am dickieV on the website.
Were your offers accepted immediately or did you have to wait some time? March 15, 2014, 04:40:41 PM
I just received verification on this. If you make an offer at BTCSportsmatch and there is a line change, your offer will stand at the new line. They also have a chat feature. It currently shows 9 members online.
March 15, 2014, 12:42:57 PM
Thats funny you said that. The first thing i tried to do when I was glancing at the site was check if they were seeding. It most definitely seems they are not. They never have a losing day because they only make 1% of action so they have no reason to go under from a bad run like most books.
March 15, 2014, 12:38:03 PM
If you hop on the site at any given time, I admit the liquidity is not very high. BUT when i put offers up they were accepted. I am absolutely loving it and my review is completely unbiased. Good luck if you try it. I am dickieV on the website.
From your previous posts, I believe what you say 100%. At first glance it looks as though they are using Pinny no-vig for their MLs. It also looks as though they aren't seeding (placing their own bets) which is a great thing for us since they are not risking anything. That was just a first impression. Jump to: