iv only used bitbook so far and didnt have any troubles but im a noob.
Yeah you also registered TODAY just to post a defense for Bitbook and their shady business practice.
So no one cares about what you think
Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. - page 62. (Read 89572 times)
February 18, 2014, 09:32:04 PM
Yeah you also registered TODAY just to post a defense for Bitbook and their shady business practice.
So no one cares about what you think
February 18, 2014, 09:30:32 PM
Thanks for some of the input above on Bitbook. We are getting back on track.
February 18, 2014, 09:28:06 PM
Gogo- An affiliate and agent are two different things.
February 18, 2014, 09:25:28 PM
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I asked why the company they said they are a part of does not mention them on their website?
And why the agent division for the company they say they are a part of does not list them?
And why the agent division for the company they say they are a part of does not list them?
you have to be joking.
I apologize to all for argumentative tone but got caught up in Gogo's false accusations and misquotes.
"you have to be joking."
Ole Group's website lists "Featured Affiliate Link" to 7Bet-Sports.com and 7Bet-Agents.com.
Those are the only 2 listings. There is no mention of sbobitcoin.com.
Sbobitcoin.com states that they are a part of OLE GROUP INTERNATIONAL LIMITED / OLE GROUP PHILIPPINES INC.
That company lists an agent division on their website - 7Bet-Agents.com.
Ole Group Int'l. and 7Bet-Agents make no mention of sbobitcoin.com
I am asking why?
I've tried to investigate myself to verify the claimed ties to these companies.
One is unreachable, the other does not respond.
Peeps Place - "...Gogo's false accusations ..."
I'm not sure what you're referring to, but at any rate, instead of attacking me, why aren't you joining in and attempting to verify sbobitcoin's claimed associations, as I am?
February 18, 2014, 09:24:59 PM
iv only used bitbook so far and didnt have any troubles but im a noob.
February 18, 2014, 09:22:54 PM
Bitbook is a crock of shit and they know I was hacked.
February 18, 2014, 09:21:21 PM
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I asked why the company they said they are a part of does not mention them on their website?
And why the agent division for the company they say they are a part of does not list them?
And why the agent division for the company they say they are a part of does not list them?
you have to be joking.
I apologize to all for argumentative tone but got caught up in Gogo's false accusations and misquotes.
February 18, 2014, 09:15:07 PM
It's exactly what you said.
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If they are tied to these companies, why aren't they mentioned on their websites?
Of course they aren't listed on Pinnacle's website. You misinterpreted what I wrote.
Gogo ppp - "Re: sbobitcoin.com:
First Cagayan apparently does the licensing of gambling operators in a section of the Philippines.
They list as one of their licensed operators OLE GROUP INTERNATIONAL LIMITED / OLE GROUP PHILIPPINES INC.
Ole Group lists one email address for contact. I sent them an email to simply ask the following:
1) Is sbobitcoin.com part of your company (OLE GROUP INTERNATIONAL LTD), as they advertise?
I2) If so, does this mean that sbobitcoin.com is under the licensing of the First Cagayan Leisure and Resort Corporation?
3) Should I use sbobitcoin.com as agents and for any reason they should go out of business, disappear, go bankrupt, be slow in allowing withdrawals of deposited funds, etc. - will OLE GROUP INTERNATIONAL LTD stand behind them and make good on any financial problems such as described?
The email delivery immediately failed:
"Delivery has failed to these recipients or groups:
[email protected] ([email protected])
Your message can't be delivered because delivery to this address is restricted."
There is no other email address listed on the site and no phone number listed anywhere on the site.
Ole Group's website lists "Featured Affiliate Link" to 7Bet-Sports.com and 7Bet-Agents.com.
Those are the only 2 listings. There is no mention of sbobitcoin.com.
Perhaps sbobitcoin.com is an affiliated sub-agent or a branch of this company (although there is no mention of them on either website).
I've made 3 email attempts to reach 7Bet asking whether sbobitcoin.com is affiliated with their company.
I've received no response.
There is only one email address listed and no phone number listed."
I was asking why sbobitcoin.com is not listed on the website of the company they state affiliation with - OLE GROUP INTERNATIONAL LTD.?
And why that company lists an agent division but does not mention sbobitcoin.com?
And why the websites of that company's agent division does not mention sbobitcoin.com?
Why don't you do your due diligence now and try to help verify the connections they state?
February 18, 2014, 09:11:27 PM
This is the most important part
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This is a community effort. We need many voices to properly grade a book. Did you receive a payout less than an hour after your request? Let’s hear about it. Was your email ignored? That needs to be made public. Big problems all start out small. A sportsbook that handles the little fires will not see the bigger fires that can destroy the book.
February 18, 2014, 09:07:54 PM
It's exactly what you said.
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If they are tied to these companies, why aren't they mentioned on their websites?
Of course they aren't listed on Pinnacle's website. February 18, 2014, 09:06:08 PM
If someone has a negative experience with SBOBitcoin as far as a payout or grading issue, then we will try to validate the complaint.
A responsible list of the books would attempt due diligence BEFORE there is a problem, not after.
This is something you refuse to do, and instead keep attempting to obfuscate.
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This is a community effort. We need many voices to properly grade a book. Did you receive a payout less than an hour after your request? Let’s hear about it. Was your email ignored? That needs to be made public. Big problems all start out small. A sportsbook that handles the little fires will not see the bigger fires that can destroy the book.
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Bitcoin books have filled the void, but most do not have the long-term track record that inspires confidence. We aim to fill that void. The Ratings Guide will focus on these bitcoin sportsbooks. How quickly they pay out. How reliable they are. And how much trust one deserves.
Confidence is developed in many ways. Good customer service. Quick grading. Reliable websites that do not have downtime. And most important of all: quick, no-hassle payouts on demand.
This is a community effort. We need many voices to properly grade a book. Did you receive a payout less than an hour after your request? Let’s hear about it. Was your email ignored? That needs to be made public. Big problems all start out small. A sportsbook that handles the little fires will not see the bigger fires that can destroy the book.
Welcome to the Peeps Place.com Ratings Guide. We look forward to hearing from you.
February 18, 2014, 09:05:21 PM
Gogo- We can spend all day on this if I have to keep answering your questions with obvious answers.You seriously want to know why Pinnacle doesn't advertise SBOBitcoin?
You have a serious problem with reading comprehension.
I said nothing about Pinnacle having them listed.
I asked why the company they said they are a part of does not mention them on their website?
And why the agent division for the company they say they are a part of does not list them?
You continually avoid my questions and try to divert.
February 18, 2014, 09:03:01 PM
Gogo- We can spend all day on this if I have to keep answering your questions with obvious answers.You seriously want to know why Pinnacle doesn't advertise SBOBitcoin at this time?
February 18, 2014, 09:01:07 PM
If someone has a negative experience with SBOBitcoin as far as a payout or grading issue, then we will try to validate the complaint.
A responsible list of the books would attempt due diligence BEFORE there is a problem, not after.
This is something you refuse to do, and instead keep attempting to obfuscate.
February 18, 2014, 09:00:07 PM
Gogo- All the Bitcoin books are new. There is very little regulation if any. A rating is just an opinion that will be changed by fact and opinions of others.
February 18, 2014, 08:55:04 PM
If someone has a negative experience with SBOBitcoin as far as a payout or grading issue, then we will try to validate the complaint.
February 18, 2014, 08:54:07 PM
Peeps Place - "Because SBObitcoin has been so prevalent on the forums without any negative criticisms coming from either PinnacleSports or SBOBET..."
It's conceivable that PinnacleSports and/or SBOBET may not know of the existence of sbobitcoin.com.
Sbobitcoin.com does have the ability to establish accounts at those books.
However, this could be because one agent is allowing them to be a sub-agent.
There is one well known case in Las Vegas of a "super agent" making someone a sub-agent and the sub-agent developed a large following and then stiffed all.
"...without any negative criticisms coming from either PinnacleSports or SBOBET.."
They've been in business a few months.
Also, you have no idea what Pinnacle or SBO thinks of them or even knows they exist.
Once again -
As I asked in my first post about them - can you verify their ties to these companies?
If they are tied to these companies, why aren't they mentioned on their websites?
It's conceivable that PinnacleSports and/or SBOBET may not know of the existence of sbobitcoin.com.
Sbobitcoin.com does have the ability to establish accounts at those books.
However, this could be because one agent is allowing them to be a sub-agent.
There is one well known case in Las Vegas of a "super agent" making someone a sub-agent and the sub-agent developed a large following and then stiffed all.
"...without any negative criticisms coming from either PinnacleSports or SBOBET.."
They've been in business a few months.
Also, you have no idea what Pinnacle or SBO thinks of them or even knows they exist.
Once again -
As I asked in my first post about them - can you verify their ties to these companies?
If they are tied to these companies, why aren't they mentioned on their websites?
February 18, 2014, 08:49:04 PM
As explained in the review for SBOBitcoin, they are an agent that is closely tied with SBOBET. All the licensing information for SBOBET and PinnacleSports is available. As with any agent, as well as most pure Bitcoin books, they want to give out as little as possible. We do our homework. Gogo couldn't be more wrong with his assertions.
"All the licensing information for SBOBET and PinnacleSports is available."
I have no fears of SBOBET or Pinnacle stiffing a customer. But I would not be depositing my money directly with either book.
I do have fears of someone I don't know holding my money.
That increases when they state connections with other companies, and it's impossible to verify, and the other companies they state they have ties with are sketchy themselves.
"As with any agent, as well as most pure Bitcoin books, they want to give out as little as possible."
I wasn't trying to verify anything they had not stated themselves. I was not trying to have them give out anything.
"We do our homework."
Obviously you've done none.
"Gogo couldn't be more wrong with his assertions."
The only thing I've asserted is that thus far there are several red flags.
Rather than answer any of the issues I've raised, you double talk and/or try to change the subject.
As I asked in my first post about them - can you verify their ties to these companies?
If they are tied to these companies, why aren't they mentioned on their websites?
February 18, 2014, 08:46:05 PM
Future upgrade and downgrades of ratings will be in the hands of the posters.
February 18, 2014, 08:44:34 PM
As explained in the review for SBOBitcoin, they are an agent that is closely tied with SBOBET. All the licensing information for SBOBET and PinnacleSports is available. As with any agent, as well as most pure Bitcoin books, they want to give out as little as possible. We do our homework. Gogo couldn't be more wrong with his assertions.
"All the licensing information for SBOBET and PinnacleSports is available."
I have no fears of SBOBET or Pinnacle stiffing a customer. But I would not be depositing my money directly with either book.
I do have fears of someone I don't know holding my money.
That increases when they state connections with other companies, and it's impossible to verify, and the other companies they state they have ties with are sketchy themselves.
"As with any agent, as well as most pure Bitcoin books, they want to give out as little as possible."
I wasn't trying to verify anything they had not stated themselves. I was not trying to have them give out anything.
"We do our homework."
Obviously you've done none.
"Gogo couldn't be more wrong with his assertions."
The only thing I've asserted is that thus far there are several red flags.
Rather than answer any of the issues I've raised, you double talk and/or try to change the subject.
As I asked in my first post about them - can you verify their ties to these companies?
If they are tied to these companies, why aren't they mentioned on their websites?
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