Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. - page 63. (Read 89558 times)

Once again, when you say "states", that means that you are quoting their words. What is misleading? Their ties are close to SBOBET and they have all of the qualifications. Gogo is confusing everyone since he is misquoting my statements.

Many of these BitCoin books are one and two man shops. Poster feedback and payment information is the best criteria for ratings. Of the 6 books that we promote on our forum with banners, SBOBitcoin isn't one of them.

Seems as if Gogo is making quality points. There is no point of writing information on here unless it is validated. If we wanted to read what the site is saying we could just see that directly on the site. This thread should only be for accurate and confirmed information. Having unconfirmed information on this thread can only be misleading for people trying to find a book.

As you will notice in my quote, I said that SBOBitcoin "states". This means that those are their words.


This is the reason why I didn't want to get into it with Gogo. Most of what he says is untrue including licensing laws and requirements.

As explained in the review for SBOBitcoin, they are an agent that is closely tied with SBOBET. All the licensing information for SBOBET and PinnacleSports is available. As with any agent, as well as most pure Bitcoin books, they want to give out as little as possible. We do our homework. Gogo couldn't be more wrong with his assertions.

There are a number of obvious red flags here:

1) Ole Group, a gambling licensee, is unreachable.
A legitimate licensee would have a way to reach them.
Having a website with no phone number and a "restricted" email (i.e., useless email) is not a good sign.

Suffice to say, in case of a conflict with sbobitcoin.com - or with Ole Group themselves - there is no way to reach them.

2) Sbobitcoin.com is not listed on Ole Group's website. Why not?

3) The "Featured Affiliate" who they do list, 7Bet, does not respond to email. It has now been several days since I first tried.
Also, if sbobitcoin.com is an affiliate of this affiliate, why are they not listed on the 2 7Bet websites?


As far as this thread goes, this group is listed as an "A" book, yet Peeps Place clearly did no due diligence, or he would've found what I did.

Apparently he used them once, got paid, and then simply did a copy and paste of the info on their website.

Gogo seems to be making some decent points.  I don't know anything about him or his motiviation.  However he's correct that you don't want to just parrot what gets said by the actual site as opposed to doing research and making sure the site is telling the truth.

Not at all.

I'd like to make sure it's being done responsibly. Part of that would be to verify claims when they are made and not simply reprinting information posted on a website, which is what Peeps Place is doing.


Re: sbobitcoin.com:

First Cagayan apparently does the licensing of gambling operators in a section of the Philippines.

They list as one of their licensed operators OLE GROUP INTERNATIONAL LIMITED / OLE GROUP PHILIPPINES INC.

Ole Group lists one email address for contact. I sent them an email to simply ask the following:


1) Is sbobitcoin.com part of your company (OLE GROUP INTERNATIONAL LTD), as they advertise?

I2) If so, does this mean that sbobitcoin.com is under the licensing of the First Cagayan Leisure and Resort Corporation?

3) Should I use sbobitcoin.com as agents and for any reason they should go out of business, disappear, go bankrupt, be slow in allowing withdrawals of deposited funds, etc. - will OLE GROUP INTERNATIONAL LTD stand behind them and make good on any financial problems such as described?


The email delivery immediately failed:

"Delivery has failed to these recipients or groups:

[email protected] ([email protected])
Your message can't be delivered because delivery to this address is restricted."


There is no other email address listed on the site and no phone number listed anywhere on the site.


Ole Group's website lists "Featured Affiliate Link" to  7Bet-Sports.com and 7Bet-Agents.com.
Those are the only 2 listings. There is no mention of sbobitcoin.com.
Perhaps sbobitcoin.com is an affiliated sub-agent or a branch of this company (although there is no mention of them on either website).

I've made 3 email attempts to reach 7Bet asking whether sbobitcoin.com is affiliated with their company.

I've received no response.

There is only one email address listed and no phone number listed.

Hi,

Anonibet does NOT apply individual account limits.

We have limits that can vary according to the league, match and odds. That means in some cases our customers can bet 10 BTC on a single event and in other cases their bet can be limited to 3 BTC according to the league, match and odds of the bet.

Regards,
Michael

There have been complaints of small limits with Nitrogen Sports. Since the limits are based upon individual accounts it would be appreciated if some could share their limits.

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Gogo seems upset someone is trying to organize a credible rating system.

Of my 7 sentences, only one was a statement. For the other  6 sentences, I simply questioned whether you had uncritically copied the info from sbobit.com's website, or if you had verified the info you copied. And why the associations stated give credibility.

You have made so many ill informed statements, I don't even know where to start. Ask a civilized question and I'll answer it but I'm not going to argue.

We appreciate the kind words. We are working hard over here! Thanks for noticing

Thanks for the non-answer to some simple questions.

It's evident that you simply reprinted their own on-site pr without investigating any of it.

 I'd suggest you do your own research about the laws in jurisdictions outside of Costa Rica and where these books are located. Then look at the licenses that Pinnacle Sports and SBOBET hold. I'm very surprised that you have never heard of the First Cagayan Resort & Leisure Corporation.

"SBObitcoin has been in business for six months with bitcoin accounts and seven years overall."

How did you confirm the "six months" and especially the "seven years overall"?
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"SBObitcoin states that they are one of the products of Ole Group Philippines Inc."

What is the Ole Group Philippines Inc. and why does this give credibility?
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"and regulated by the Government of the Philippines..."

Did you confirm this?

And if true, does the Government regulation mean anything realisitically? We all know how meaningless "Government regulation" of all offshore sportsbooks has been thus far, regardless of location.
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" under First Cagayan Resort & Leisure Corporation."

What is  First Cagayan Resort & Leisure Corporation, and why does this give credibility?
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Hopefully you investigated further than simply reprinting their own pr.

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