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Quote from: rampagejackson on July 28, 2016, 07:56:28 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on July 28, 2016, 07:04:26 PM

Quote from: rampagejackson on July 28, 2016, 07:03:01 PM

I'm not going to pay too much notice to someone crying they got scammed out of 100 or so Ether when they're paying me out 10 times that. Why didn't they just scam me?

Whats the DirectBet response to this scam accusation?

seriously?

I can see first hand they process 5 figure payments near instantly. I can see some single random guy saying they've not paid him 100 Ether.

There is a complete lack of (legit) scam complaints surrounding DirectBet, and my own experiences show them to be honest. So why wouldn't I continue to bet there?

I'm happy to listen if anyone points me to some credible evidence I shouldn't play there. Right now I can't see that (outside of a couple of likely double spenders)

In my opinion, it's very unlikely they haven't paid anyone who hasn't tried to scam them.
(in other words, anyone they have denied payment likely doesn't deserve to be paid)

I don't think they intend to scam anyone.

HOWEVER,

They are operating an exploitable site and playing the role of judge jury and executioner.

You may not have been scammed yet, you may not be scammed tomorrow. But eventually, they will either go broke from being scammed or confiscate the funds of an innocent player. It's inevitable

A flawed system run by people that reserve the right to only pay who they want will only end badly.

Edit: Peeps, I still think you're a scumbag for keeping Betcoin ranked so high because only poker and casino players have been fucked by them. "I don't understand" is bullshit. Grow a pair.

FoendyZ

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i want to ask where you get source ratings in spoortboks
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rampagejackson

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Quote from: Rating Place on July 28, 2016, 08:00:57 PM

Your bet was at 1.39 odds so most of the money is from you, not winnings paid out by DirectBet.

Sure it was from me but it was in their hands - if they wanted to they could have kept the full lot. They didn't, which makes me think anyone crying about a small wager being stolen from them... they're not telling us the full story.

Quote from: Rating Place on July 28, 2016, 08:00:57 PM

The onus isn't on the players in this thread to prove anything. The books should be answering to us and DirectBet refuses to do that.

You're a random 3rd party, Direct Bet are a major BTC bookmaker. They don't owe you an explanation at all.

I'd like to see one but its pretty obvious why we often won't - showing proof of how they caught the scam, just helps them try a better attempt at it next time and/or encourages someone else to have a go.

Either way, players can pay their money and take their choice. You can chalk this one up as another successful large payout from Direct Bet in the last 5 mins - https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0x0bd538b0f6fe553b839dc97b9501e4ac141ca0ad

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Quote from: rampagejackson on July 28, 2016, 07:56:28 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on July 28, 2016, 07:04:26 PM

Quote from: rampagejackson on July 28, 2016, 07:03:01 PM

I'm not going to pay too much notice to someone crying they got scammed out of 100 or so Ether when they're paying me out 10 times that. Why didn't they just scam me?

Whats the DirectBet response to this scam accusation?

seriously?

I can see first hand they process 5 figure payments near instantly. I can see some single random guy saying they've not paid him 100 Ether.

There is a complete lack of (legit) scam complaints surrounding DirectBet, and my own experiences show them to be honest. So why wouldn't I continue to bet there?

I'm happy to listen if anyone points me to some credible evidence I shouldn't play there. Right now I can't see that (outside of a couple of likely double spenders)

Your bet was at 1.39 odds so most of the money is from you, not winnings paid out by DirectBet.

The onus isn't on the players in this thread to prove anything. The books should be answering to us and DirectBet refuses to do that.

rampagejackson

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on July 28, 2016, 07:04:26 PM

Quote from: rampagejackson on July 28, 2016, 07:03:01 PM

I'm not going to pay too much notice to someone crying they got scammed out of 100 or so Ether when they're paying me out 10 times that. Why didn't they just scam me?

Whats the DirectBet response to this scam accusation?

seriously?

I can see first hand they process 5 figure payments near instantly. I can see some single random guy saying they've not paid him 100 Ether.

There is a complete lack of (legit) scam complaints surrounding DirectBet, and my own experiences show them to be honest. So why wouldn't I continue to bet there?

I'm happy to listen if anyone points me to some credible evidence I shouldn't play there. Right now I can't see that (outside of a couple of likely double spenders)

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DirectBet confiscated money from 3 different players claiming double spend and they have no proof. One player was paid a week or so later. Two haven't been paid.

DirectBet refused to pay out on a bet that they confirmed. They haven't paid 3 players and their model is open to more problems. The amount of players paid doesn't make up for those not paid.

1. The have the largest hold (margins) of all books.
2. They haven't paid 3 players.
3. They refuse to answer questions.
4. It's not if, it's when will DirectBet take money again from a player that's unjustified. They have flaws that need to be fixed.

The 4 points above are huge negatives when rating DirectBet.

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Quote from: rampagejackson on July 28, 2016, 07:03:01 PM

Whats the DirectBet response to this scam accusation?

All other books will work with me and show proof of problems. DirectBet will not show anything. They state that their decision is final.

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Quote from: rampagejackson on July 28, 2016, 07:03:01 PM

I'm not going to pay too much notice to someone crying they got scammed out of 100 or so Ether when they're paying me out 10 times that. Why didn't they just scam me?

Whats the DirectBet response to this scam accusation?

seriously?

rampagejackson

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I'm not going to pay too much notice to someone crying they got scammed out of 100 or so Ether when they're paying me out 10 times that. Why didn't they just scam me?

Whats the DirectBet response to this scam accusation?

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Quote from: rampagejackson on July 28, 2016, 06:26:52 PM

Quote from: patt0 on July 28, 2016, 04:10:50 PM

Right now I'm very happy with directbet.eu. I saw that quote with those problems and I don't really know what to think, since everything is going well for me, so I will continue to bet with them. I like the support, odds are decent, payments are fast, and I like their promotions, like the regular Tipster Championship they are holding. I also made a few bets on their casino, with bonuses from that competition, and everything wen't well. So for me they have a really good business overall and I rate them A.

We've yet to see someone posting complaints that doesn't have legitimate looking double spend claims against them.

$10,000+ payment from them today, in my pocket a few minutes after the final whistle blew - https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0x6dfc69d0f54c490ee1d55277a1896f31f3d5922d

DirectBet rules state that once a bet is confirmed, it stands. A bet was confirmed and the winner wasn't paid.

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Once the bet status is either 'Confirmed' or 'Rejected', it can not be changed the other way around

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Quote from: patt0 on July 28, 2016, 04:10:50 PM

Right now I'm very happy with directbet.eu. I saw that quote with those problems and I don't really know what to think, since everything is going well for me, so I will continue to bet with them. I like the support, odds are decent, payments are fast, and I like their promotions, like the regular Tipster Championship they are holding. I also made a few bets on their casino, with bonuses from that competition, and everything wen't well. So for me they have a really good business overall and I rate them A.

We've yet to see someone posting complaints that doesn't have legitimate looking double spend claims against them.

$10,000+ payment from them today, in my pocket a few minutes after the final whistle blew - https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0x6dfc69d0f54c490ee1d55277a1896f31f3d5922d

patt0

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Right now I'm very happy with directbet.eu. I saw that quote with those problems and I don't really know what to think, since everything is going well for me, so I will continue to bet with them. I like the support, odds are decent, payments are fast, and I like their promotions, like the regular Tipster Championship they are holding. I also made a few bets on their casino, with bonuses from that competition, and everything wen't well. So for me they have a really good business overall and I rate them A.

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Quote from: ajaxmoor on July 20, 2016, 01:22:13 AM

Quote from: Rating Place on July 19, 2016, 04:21:27 PM

Quote from: ajaxmoor on July 19, 2016, 02:24:31 PM

Can't believe to see anonibet going so low. On the other hand I expect to see sportsbet and cloudbet going up in rankings; Is the table or excel sheet listed in your last post used to determine the ratings of those sporstbooks ? If so, I don't think having a casino should affect or improve any casinos rating in general as a casino is a completely different venture than sportsbetting, and I don't see it affecting a sportbooks ranking.

Casinos and poker rooms don't affect sports book ratings. It's only posted there to make those that may be interested aware that a casino or poker room exists.

Anonibet went through a bad stretch were they were taking up to a week for withdrawals. If they stay clean for another month the rating will rise.

Cloudbet is another one that could be upgraded but they still have too many problems on the weekends for an upgrade at this time.

It will take sportsbet some time before an upgrade is warranted since they haven't been open long.

Alright, yeah a good think to see in a comparison I suppose. Anonibet used to be huge a few years back, haven't been to the place recently.
As for Cloudbet, while it could rise, its true they have been having a lot of problems lately. I have had withdrawal issues too, where it never got processed until I contacted support. They have a good sportsbook, just that the support and the deposit-withdrawal system is lacking.

Appreciate your input. It helps all.

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Quote from: Rating Place on July 19, 2016, 04:21:27 PM

Quote from: ajaxmoor on July 19, 2016, 02:24:31 PM

Can't believe to see anonibet going so low. On the other hand I expect to see sportsbet and cloudbet going up in rankings; Is the table or excel sheet listed in your last post used to determine the ratings of those sporstbooks ? If so, I don't think having a casino should affect or improve any casinos rating in general as a casino is a completely different venture than sportsbetting, and I don't see it affecting a sportbooks ranking.

Casinos and poker rooms don't affect sports book ratings. It's only posted there to make those that may be interested aware that a casino or poker room exists.

Anonibet went through a bad stretch were they were taking up to a week for withdrawals. If they stay clean for another month the rating will rise.

Cloudbet is another one that could be upgraded but they still have too many problems on the weekends for an upgrade at this time.

It will take sportsbet some time before an upgrade is warranted since they haven't been open long.

Alright, yeah a good think to see in a comparison I suppose. Anonibet used to be huge a few years back, haven't been to the place recently.
As for Cloudbet, while it could rise, its true they have been having a lot of problems lately. I have had withdrawal issues too, where it never got processed until I contacted support. They have a good sportsbook, just that the support and the deposit-withdrawal system is lacking.

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Quote from: ajaxmoor on July 19, 2016, 02:24:31 PM

Can't believe to see anonibet going so low. On the other hand I expect to see sportsbet and cloudbet going up in rankings; Is the table or excel sheet listed in your last post used to determine the ratings of those sporstbooks ? If so, I don't think having a casino should affect or improve any casinos rating in general as a casino is a completely different venture than sportsbetting, and I don't see it affecting a sportbooks ranking.

Casinos and poker rooms don't affect sports book ratings. It's only posted there to make those that may be interested aware that a casino or poker room exists.

Anonibet went through a bad stretch were they were taking up to a week for withdrawals. If they stay clean for another month the rating will rise.

Cloudbet is another one that could be upgraded but they still have too many problems on the weekends for an upgrade at this time.

It will take sportsbet some time before an upgrade is warranted since they haven't been open long.

ajaxmoor

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Can't believe to see anonibet going so low. On the other hand I expect to see sportsbet and cloudbet going up in rankings; Is the table or excel sheet listed in your last post used to determine the ratings of those sporstbooks ? If so, I don't think having a casino should affect or improve any casinos rating in general as a casino is a completely different venture than sportsbetting, and I don't see it affecting a sportbooks ranking.

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"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
betcoinsports.com B+ (2013)
jetwin.ps B (2013)
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books)
betbtc.co C+(2014)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
fairlay.com C (2014)
betmoose.com C- (2014)
predictious.com C- (2013)

"D" rated books
anonibet.com D+ (2011)
coinbet24.com D (2016)
lunarbets.eu D (2016)
directbet.eu D- (2014)
sportsbet.io D- (2016)

"F" rated books
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

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Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F

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rangernation

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Yea direcbet never returned my bet. I'm sure they will strike again and take someone elses.

They just act like bullies and ignore all the while posting their spam. Pretty obvious

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15574641

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/and-its-gone

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Quote from: anthonyjg on July 15, 2016, 08:08:22 PM

https://gyazo.com/0d17256bea5d88c2bc49684dfc603f17

sent me under twitter username @betcoinagsteals
he deleted the rest

Twitchyseal isn't an idiot though. You are.

Thats how I can tell you are not me.

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Quote from: Rating Place on July 06, 2016, 08:30:19 PM

DirectBet lowered to "D-"

Player placed a 3 team parlay bet of 50 ETH at odds of 3.32. The bet was placed approximately 1 hour and 20 minutes prior to the start of the first game. After no confirmations, the player sent an email to DirectBet approximately 1 hour prior to the start of the first game.

After the first 2 games of the parlay won and the third game was winning, DirectBet sent an email stating that the bet would be refunded.

The ticket shows that the bet was confirmed at odds of 3.32.

There is a second case where ragernation placed a bet of 9.049 BTC. The bet was rejected by DirectBet. DirectBet did not refund the 9.049 BTC to ragernation. DirectBet claimed that ragernation made another bet with a double spend and they have the right to confiscate 9.049 BTC. ragernation denies making the second bet and DirectBet has no evidence showing that ragernation did indeed make the second bet.

DirectBet should change the 0 confirmation system, it is vulnerable to people who have evil thought to double spend the transaction.
I love this 0 confirmation system actually, but because this causing bad things affected to directbet.eu accused confiscated players funds without any reason or any double spend evidence or even did not pay the winning .
I support directbet.eu as I play there and have zero problem such as this guy https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15510890

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