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Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus - page 179. (Read 260310 times)

legendary
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I have been  using Betbtc since they first appeared and all I can say is that the support, payments and  betting platform are absolutely excellent.
Bitcoin sports punters need an exchange in this format badly  and I suggest you give it a try.  The more that do so, the better for everybody,  since everything (odds and volumes) are determined by user vs user.
High liquidity is the only missing key at the moment. It has been growing noticeably over the last couple of weeks but more punters have to get involved.
Let's use it and not lose it guys.
newbie
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Thanks for the input. Why do you think that Betcoin should be downgraded? I really like them.

Even the reddit guide added a warning next to their references, it shouldn't be too hard to find out what the issues are. But they probably shouldn't have been rated highly in the first place. How much do you know about them? Do you know who operates them? Past issues: lack of experience with SSL and didn't understand it quickly even after explained. Their practices for banking have been less than ideal too, and casual users became more likely to get their exchange hosted e-wallets suspended over it. More currently developing issues: horrible sometimes non responsive for days support. payouts sometimes taking days to be issued. etc. They say are busy working on new things, maybe true. But they started off a bit low on small list of sites I'd be comfortable sending players to already, now are on decline. Maybe they recover fine. but imo ratings are not effective when wait and see is used. Now in fairness that's just a response to the negatives. There are positives here too
legendary
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Most of the fiat books use the lessor of risk/payout for rollover requirements.
legendary
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Anonibet is catching a lot of heat and may be wrong, in this current case, to be seen, but one of the reasons they were rated so high is that in my dealings with Michael, he has been 100% honest.

One person was overpaid 15 BTC by Anonibet.  When the player posted about it, Michael took full responsibility for the mistake. Michael said that the player wasn't a scammer. After that the player did pay Anonibet back. the player made a bet for 15 BTC and said if it won that he would pay back Anonibet. The bet won.

Anonibet didn't even bring the case to the forum. The player stated that he was overpaid.

Peeps. IMSO they are rated way too high. Most all the other popular bitcoin books, same as fiat currency ones, have comprehensive betting rules by sport. Anonibet has only a very small section in their terms and conditions that cover just the very basics. They offer a bonus that for all intents and purposes is like a 10% cash bonus on all deposits with only a 1X rollover. This bonus has no rules associated with it. The 1X rollover can be done at -20000 odds even. There is nothing else saying what is and what is not allowed. Yet, their only rules is they can adjust balances after the fact retroactively under their own discretion and with no explanation to remove past winnings. Some like their in-play betting platform but other sites use the exact same provider at lower margins (everything is a match just Anonibet has higher juice). Their prematch odds are also not very good. Those can be offset by bonus, but the bonus has major issues in the lack of terms followed by a catchall term.

Michael might be a great guy. Their company could want to operate fair. They however do not at least in print / policy conform to the standards of fair gambling that the oldest fiat currency books adhere to, and other bitcoin books use. It might be due to lack of experience, but that would be a concern too. I know they are the oldest for bitcoin, but some of these other books have management with decades in the sports side of the industry. I think even B- for them is too high, but could maybe swallow it. Having them rated higher than Nitrogen, Cloudbet and Casinobitco.in I don't think is wise.

BetCoin should also be no more than C or C+ and on watch imo. By watch I mean it could go either way with further adjustments from there.
Thanks for the input. Why do you think that Betcoin should be downgraded? I really like them.
newbie
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Anonibet is catching a lot of heat and may be wrong, in this current case, to be seen, but one of the reasons they were rated so high is that in my dealings with Michael, he has been 100% honest.

One person was overpaid 15 BTC by Anonibet.  When the player posted about it, Michael took full responsibility for the mistake. Michael said that the player wasn't a scammer. After that the player did pay Anonibet back. the player made a bet for 15 BTC and said if it won that he would pay back Anonibet. The bet won.

Anonibet didn't even bring the case to the forum. The player stated that he was overpaid.

Peeps. IMSO they are rated way too high. Most all the other popular bitcoin books, same as fiat currency ones, have comprehensive betting rules by sport. Anonibet has only a very small section in their terms and conditions that cover just the very basics. They offer a bonus that for all intents and purposes is like a 10% cash bonus on all deposits with only a 1X rollover. This bonus has no rules associated with it. The 1X rollover can be done at -20000 odds even. There is nothing else saying what is and what is not allowed. Yet, their only rules is they can adjust balances after the fact retroactively under their own discretion and with no explanation to remove past winnings. Some like their in-play betting platform but other sites use the exact same provider at lower margins (everything is a match just Anonibet has higher juice). Their prematch odds are also not very good. Those can be offset by bonus, but the bonus has major issues in the lack of terms followed by a catchall term.

Michael might be a great guy. Their company could want to operate fair. They however do not at least in print / policy conform to the standards of fair gambling that the oldest fiat currency books adhere to, and other bitcoin books use. It might be due to lack of experience, but that would be a concern too. I know they are the oldest for bitcoin, but some of these other books have management with decades in the sports side of the industry. I think even B- for them is too high, but could maybe swallow it. Having them rated higher than Nitrogen, Cloudbet and Casinobitco.in I don't think is wise.

BetCoin should also be no more than C or C+ and on watch imo. By watch I mean it could go either way with further adjustments from there.
legendary
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We have some big announcements! We have expanded our sport section tremendously. We are still a betting exchange - so we don't offer specific odds, instead they are found by the market. However, we partner with some market makers that guarantee to offer very good odds (better than pinnacle) and we have cut the fees for sport bets from 2% to 0.00%.
We do not offer any bonuses - instead we entirely focused on cutting costs and with this setup we are confident that we offer the best odds available.
It is possible to place bets without an account - we only take a 0.5mBTC fee for the transaction. With accounts even this fee is waived.

Check it out here: https://www.fairlay.com/event/category/soccer/

We are happy to get feedback!

@Peeps Place - looks like fairlay is currently under NR AND under D.
Corrected. Thanks for checking in.
sr. member
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We have some big announcements! We have expanded our sport section tremendously. We are still a betting exchange - so we don't offer specific odds, instead they are found by the market. However, we partner with some market makers that guarantee to offer very good odds (better than pinnacle) and we have cut the fees for sport bets from 2% to 0.00%.
We do not offer any bonuses - instead we entirely focused on cutting costs and with this setup we are confident that we offer the best odds available.
It is possible to place bets without an account - we only take a 0.5mBTC fee for the transaction. With accounts even this fee is waived.

Check it out here: https://www.fairlay.com/event/category/soccer/

We are happy to get feedback!

@Peeps Place - looks like fairlay is currently under NR AND under D.
legendary
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In other news:

SBR has upgraded SBO.ag to C- claiming all outstanding issues have been resolved. Mine hasn't and the person (Matt) who's been handling my case and telling me SBO won't talk to him about my case is now not responding to my emails. I've tried to contact SBO myself again, but to no avail. After a few exchanged messages they closed my support ticked and wouldn't respond any further. I'm gonna try sending an email to a different address at SBR and if I don't get a satisfactory reply in a couple of days I'll be posting on their forum.

Coindrafts have stopped paying me in November, I think. Last I heard from them a couple of weeks ago they were still saying they're recovering from the wallet disaster and outright told me they have no idea when they are going to pay me. Now their site is dead. They owe me 8.2btc.
Thank You - Coindrafts lowered from "D+" to "F"



Webetcoins has asked that you send me transaction IDs. Please post or PM them and we'll see what happens. They were once a very good out.



New broker oddschain.com



Upgrades and downgrades approx. 3/1

If you are playing or have played at the following please post experiences. This is helpful. Thanks to the guys that have taken time to post feedback on the other books.

Books in the "D" and "NR" may want to add something at this time.

"D" rated books
Betmoose D+ (2014)
Fairlay D+ (2013)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
OLEBitcoin D+ (2013) *
BTCBook D (2014)


NR
1player
7Bit
altbetfair
Asianconnect88 - No longer accepts bitcoins.
Betabit
Betbanks
Betbtc
Betmoose
betxcp
BetXCP
Bitcoinvegas
Bitesports
Coin178
Cointeller
Darkbet
Evolvebets
finalstake
Flutterclub
Oddschange (2015)
Planetofbets
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
Premiumtradings
tdsports
xbet.io


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member
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In other news:

SBR has upgraded SBO.ag to C- claiming all outstanding issues have been resolved. Mine hasn't and the person (Matt) who's been handling my case and telling me SBO won't talk to him about my case is now not responding to my emails. I've tried to contact SBO myself again, but to no avail. After a few exchanged messages they closed my support ticked and wouldn't respond any further. I'm gonna try sending an email to a different address at SBR and if I don't get a satisfactory reply in a couple of days I'll be posting on their forum.

Coindrafts have stopped paying me in November, I think. Last I heard from them a couple of weeks ago they were still saying they're recovering from the wallet disaster and outright told me they have no idea when they are going to pay me. Now their site is dead. They owe me 8.2btc.
legendary
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Cloudbet | Best Bitcoin Gambling Site Since 2013
Hi all,

For the high stakes bettors out there - we're taking max bets of 200 BTC on tonight's Champions League games, and 60 BTC on the Cricket World Cup.

Best of luck!

Cheers,
Cloudbet
legendary
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Webetcoins told me that payments are being processed. Those with significant balances are having their BTC address validated to prevent sending to an unsafe place.

Check in if you've had some recent payouts. Thanks









Nitrogen has some interesting things for the poker players this week.  They have an extra 10 mbtc hourly free rolls (started yesterday), an extra Crazy Wednesday freeroll (12pm EST), poker trivia throughout the day, all-in/shove competitions, screen cap sharing contests on Twiter/Facebook for free bets, and anyone who achieves Gold status or better during the month of February will receive an additional free bet on our sportsbook.



Anonibet is catching a lot of heat and may be wrong, in this current case, to be seen, but one of the reasons they were rated so high is that in my dealings with Michael, he has been 100% honest.

One person was overpaid 15 BTC by Anonibet.  When the player posted about it, Michael took full responsibility for the mistake. Michael said that the player wasn't a scammer. After that the player did pay Anonibet back. the player made a bet for 15 BTC and said if it won that he would pay back Anonibet. The bet won.

Anonibet didn't even bring the case to the forum. The player stated that he was overpaid.

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legendary
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Cloudbet | Best Bitcoin Gambling Site Since 2013
Can we get some more books to offer Nascar?

Peeps - Can you lobby your books about this?


Ridiculous that almost no one offers it.

Hi Gogo ppp,

We offer NASCAR at Cloudbet. Right now it's only a rudimentary offering with low limits, but we will be improving the NASCAR markets over the next few weeks.

Cheers,
Cloudbet

Thanks for the response Cloudbet.


"Right now it's only a rudimentary offering with low limits, but we will be improving the NASCAR markets over the next few weeks."

The more you can put up and the earlier you can put it up, the better. And at competitive odds.

Ideally - Race Winner and Matchups for all 3 series, any other props such as Finish Position over/under, qualifying matchups, etc.

Daytona is this coming weekend.



Hi Gogo ppp,

Thanks for the feedback. We have plans for all of these markets, as well as props, in the next few weeks. Our Daytona prices are already up. Limits will increase as the race approaches - you can get most on in the hours before the race begins.

Cheers,
Cloudbet
legendary
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Peep what is the update on webetcoins. He paid out a customer just now and is responding to emails. I cant get a response or a small payout from him.
That's great news. I thought we weren't going to hear from him again. I'll try and get in touch with him.
member
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Peep what is the update on webetcoins. He paid out a customer just now and is responding to emails. I cant get a response or a small payout from him.
legendary
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legendary
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zika- Can you send me a 30 day history of your wagers? Thanks
i can't, i cant log in and support saying account with my email doesnt exist. all i have are deposit and withdrawal emails.

Do I have your permission to look into your account if Anonibet allows me access?
of course
Thanks, I'll look at the history and see what the forum thinks. I don't ever want to base ratings on my sole opinion.

I don't know Michael's schedule and I'm out of town for a few days if I don't reply soon.
newbie
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zika- Can you send me a 30 day history of your wagers? Thanks
i can't, i cant log in and support saying account with my email doesnt exist. all i have are deposit and withdrawal emails.

Do I have your permission to look into your account if Anonibet allows me access?
of course
legendary
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Merit: 1061
zika- Can you send me a 30 day history of your wagers? Thanks
i can't, i cant log in and support saying account with my email doesnt exist. all i have are deposit and withdrawal emails.

Do I have your permission to look into your account if Anonibet allows me access?
newbie
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zika- Can you send me a 30 day history of your wagers? Thanks
i can't, i cant log in and support saying account with my email doesnt exist. all i have are deposit and withdrawal emails.

The deposit and withdrawal emails obviously prove the account exists or existed.

I assume you've shown them at least one of these.
What is their response?
they havent asked me for any emails, whenever i contact livechat all they say is "we will contact you when we have info", and now its been almost 20 days with no word from them. peeps is helping me with communication, i think he contacted them for me
legendary
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even though Anonibet is A rated, they don't have the best odds, and most of the times less bet options than other sites.

So some research among the other high rated books might give some rewards

They also don't offer overnite odds on some major USA sports that  every other sportsbook has.
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