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sbrzol

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Quote from: Rating Place on February 28, 2015, 06:01:09 PM

I didn't recommend BetVIP. I said what you did is totally irresponsible. I have no reason to back BetVIP and would be all over them if they hadn't paid you in a few days.

So to everybody : Do not share anything if you see something messy. (In my case it was at least 3 suspicious valid fact and unfortunately 1 false)
Input do not wanted from anybody.

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I didn't recommend BetVIP. I said what you did is totally irresponsible. I have no reason to back BetVIP and would be all over them if they hadn't paid you in a few days.

I took Anonibet down for a couple of days until I looked into some complaints.

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Quote from: Rating Place on February 28, 2015, 05:42:51 PM

You waited one hour and then claimed a book to be insolvent. You falsely accused them of not having a withdrawal page. You think that "C" rated books aren't going to go under. Do I have this straight?

again: the betvip history :

they disapperared some day, first they claimed it was a DDOS, next day it was only an upgrade , it is very strange
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10380595

totally messed odds: never fixed
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10396253

I follow their totally messed "odds" more then 1 month.

They asked the same thing 3 times and after they got it 3rd time they did nothing.

my history with other bitcoin sportsbook and review site
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinlivebetscom-stealing-all-my-winnings-30-btc-300044 bitcoinlivebets.com stealing all my winnings 30 BTC
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/arbsmiddles-between-bitcoinlivebets-and-other-sites-312080 arbs/middles between bitcoinlivebets and other sites
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/real-story-how-bitcoincasinopro-handling-issues-309060 real story : how bitcoincasinopro handling issues
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/2593238-bicoinlivetbets-stealing-all-my-winnings-30btc-3600-a.html
http://www.bookmakersforum.com/bookmakers/bitcoinlivebets-stealing-all-my-winnings-30btc-3600/264

i wrote (private) messages about this issue to all bitcoin sports books (at bitcointalkorg), but they do nothing and to top it all bitcoincasinopro contribute to bitcoinlivebets
stealing.
http://bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/bitcoinlivebets-com/29-60-btc-complaint-against-bitcoinlivebets-com-unsubstantiated/

So i have the right to share my thoughts and warn everybody here if i see anything messy.

You can be the next "bitcoincasinopro" if you want just defend the messy sportsbooks ...

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I don't think BetVIP saw what you posted.

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Name:   BetVIP
Posts:   319
Activity:   319
Position:   Sr. Member
Date Registered:   February 25, 2014, 10:34:02 AM
Last Active:   February 27, 2015, 03:46:22 PM

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Quote from: sbrzol on February 28, 2015, 05:39:15 PM

Quote from: Rating Place on February 28, 2015, 05:31:59 PM

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if i do not get it within 1 hour i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you are inslovent

It's irresponsible of you to threaten a book after waiting "ONE HOUR" and claiming them to be insolvent.

Very interesting that they replied all my emails within 15 minutes, they had all information to credit my account , but they asked back 3 times, and after they got all information 3 times they (there was no other question they could ask again) still did not credit my account, only after i wrote into their topic

Emails were sent to Scott and Guy, two of the owners after I saw your complaint. I doubt they keep a constant eye on bitcointalk.

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You waited one hour and then claimed a book to be insolvent. You falsely accused them of not having a withdrawal page. You think that "C" rated books aren't going to go under even though it's not recommended to play there. Do I have this straight?

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Quote from: Rating Place on February 28, 2015, 05:31:59 PM

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if i do not get it within 1 hour i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you are inslovent

It's irresponsible of you to threaten a book after waiting "ONE HOUR" and claiming them to be insolvent.

Very interesting that they replied all my emails within 15 minutes, they had all information to credit my account , but they asked back 3 times, and after they got all information 3 times they (there was no other question they could ask again) still did not credit my account, only after i wrote into their topic

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Quote from: Rating Place on February 28, 2015, 05:12:22 PM

Quote from: sbrzol on February 28, 2015, 05:09:44 PM

Quote from: Rating Place on February 28, 2015, 05:06:13 PM

Quote from: sbrzol on February 28, 2015, 04:28:37 PM

They have NO WITHDRAWAL option on their page , did you know that ?

I just looked and they have a withdrawal page.

i have no withdrawal page , only deposit link , at "my account " there is only 3 data

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Date Registered
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If I go to "My Account" I get this on the left.

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My Account
Deposit
My Betting History
My Account History
Withdrawal Wallets
Withdraw Funds

They put their account option list above the sport menu, same color same size etc, so i never noticed it . It is my fault.

If they answered to my emails then probably i never claim that they have no withdrawal option , (I wrote them first , but they never replied. It is their fault.)

so now after 8 +4 hours they credited my account i will try to withdraw it

If you check original betvip topic you can see my earlier posts (first i wrote email to them about this bug, but they never replied)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10396253

Betvip never fixed this bug, they know about it more then 1 month, or they do not understand the issue. ( I had to explain it to them in my post)

They never thanked that i noticed them about it.

so betvip odds totally messed up like earlier bitcoinlivebets , and we know what happened to bitcoinlivebets

so if i have to bet which bitcoin sportsbook will disappear next it would be betvip (rated at least C)

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sbrzol

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if i do not get it within 1 hour i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you are inslovent

It's irresponsible of you to threaten a book after waiting "ONE HOUR" and claiming them to be insolvent.

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sbrzol - I can't try to help without your permission. Please send email address and include that I have permission to look into your account. Thanks

edit- You are understandably upset but there is no way in the world to prevent "C" and "D" rated books from going under. You should know that as well as anyone.

PanAm was rated "A", or a top book depending on rating system, at all rating's sites and ran away with millions.

BetVIP is located in Europe so I wouldn't expect them to answer until tomorrow, if they do decide to answer.

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Quote from: sbrzol on February 28, 2015, 05:09:44 PM

Quote from: Rating Place on February 28, 2015, 05:06:13 PM

Quote from: sbrzol on February 28, 2015, 04:28:37 PM

They have NO WITHDRAWAL option on their page , did you know that ?

I just looked and they have a withdrawal page.

i have no withdrawal page , only deposit link , at "my account " there is only 3 data

Account Summary

Date Registered
January 17, 2015 20:26

Last Login
February 28, 2015 23:03

Current IP Address

If I go to "My Account" I get this on the left.

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My Account
Deposit
My Betting History
My Account History
Withdrawal Wallets
Withdraw Funds

sbrzol

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Quote from: Rating Place on February 28, 2015, 05:06:13 PM

Quote from: sbrzol on February 28, 2015, 04:28:37 PM

They have NO WITHDRAWAL option on their page , did you know that ?

I just looked and they have a withdrawal page.

i have no withdrawal page , only deposit link , at "my account " there is only 3 data

Account Summary

Date Registered
January 17, 2015 20:26

Last Login
February 28, 2015 23:03

Current IP Address

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Quote from: sbrzol on February 28, 2015, 05:07:18 PM

Quote from: Rating Place on February 28, 2015, 04:38:21 PM

sbrzol - PM me your email address or account number. Whichever one that you use there.

There will be a lot of books that go under. You can't blame a rating's guide for the failure of every book "C" and "D" rated book. You should have taken it as a warning instead of blame. If an "A" or "B" rated site stiffs players, that's a different story.

Bitcoinlivebets was a top book at another rating's guide at bitcointalk and they were predicted to go under this thread.

As i said in the (original) betvip topic bitcoinlivebets added a fake bet to my account and steal 30 BTC from me , I predicted that they will disappear, nobody believed me, the review site assisted to bitcoinlivebets stealing , bitcoinlivebets odds was totally messed up

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8164716

How can get a book (betvip) rate C if they have no withdrawal option on their page?
Since when betvip has no withdrawal option on their page?
How long they have the issue with the deposits?
Why does it took 8 hours to credit my account?
Why did not they send back my deposit as i asked them 2 times 3 and 5 hours ago?

i think betvip has to answer my emails or send back my 1 BTC as i asked them.

Why should you (or anybody) contact them to ask the same thing like me to send back my 1 BTC? I do not understand it.

They have a withdrawal page. Once again "C" books are not recommended and many will go under.

Send me your email address including permission to look into your account. Thanks

sbrzol

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Quote from: Rating Place on February 28, 2015, 04:38:21 PM

sbrzol - PM me your email address or account number. Whichever one that you use there.

There will be a lot of books that go under. You can't blame a rating's guide for the failure of every book "C" and "D" rated book. You should have taken it as a warning instead of blame. If an "A" or "B" rated site stiffs players, that's a different story.

Bitcoinlivebets was a top book at another rating's guide at bitcointalk and they were predicted to go under this thread.

As i said in the (original) betvip topic bitcoinlivebets added a fake bet to my account and steal 30 BTC from me , I predicted that they will disappear, nobody believed me, the review site assisted to bitcoinlivebets stealing , bitcoinlivebets odds was totally messed up

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8164716

How can get a book (betvip) rate C if they have no withdrawal option on their page?
Since when betvip has no withdrawal option on their page?
How long they have the issue with the deposits?
Why does it took 8 hours to credit my account?
Why did not they send back my deposit as i asked them 2 times 3 and 5 hours ago?

i think betvip has to answer my emails or send back my 1 BTC as i asked them.

Why should you (or anybody) contact them to ask the same thing like me to send back my 1 BTC? I do not understand it.

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Quote from: sbrzol on February 28, 2015, 04:28:37 PM

They have NO WITHDRAWAL option on their page , did you know that ?

I just looked and they have a withdrawal page.

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Quote from: CryForMeSky on February 28, 2015, 04:51:10 PM

Quote from: Rating Place on February 28, 2015, 04:46:39 PM

Quote from: CryForMeSky on February 28, 2015, 04:32:38 PM

Seems like there are some people in the anonibet thread talking about having their withdraws sent without a miner fee. Is this a known thing?

Yes, I know about it and will look into it. There are complaints every day on other books as well.

Just providing input, as requested. I didn't see anything about that on here and wasn't sure if it was something to be concerned about or not. Thanks for looking into it.

Thanks, appreciate it and I sincerely mean that since I may miss a lot of things.

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Quote from: Rating Place on February 28, 2015, 04:46:39 PM

Quote from: CryForMeSky on February 28, 2015, 04:32:38 PM

Seems like there are some people in the anonibet thread talking about having their withdraws sent without a miner fee. Is this a known thing?

Yes, I know about it and will look into it. There are complaints every day on other books as well.

Just providing input, as requested. I didn't see anything about that on here and wasn't sure if it was something to be concerned about or not. Thanks for looking into it.

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Quote from: CryForMeSky on February 28, 2015, 04:32:38 PM

Seems like there are some people in the anonibet thread talking about having their withdraws sent without a miner fee. Is this a known thing?

Yes, I know about it and will look into it. There are complaints every day on other books as well.

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sbrzol - PM me your email address or account number. Whichever one that you use there.

There will be a lot of books that go under. You can't blame a rating's guide for the failure of every book "C" and "D" rated book. You should have taken it as a warning instead of blaming others. If an "A" or "B" rated site stiffs players, that's a different story.

I will "try" to help. Another guy was owed a disputed 70 BTC and was paid after talking it over with BetVIP.

Bitcoinlivebets was a top book at another rating's guide at bitcointalk and they were predicted to go under this thread.

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Seems like there are some people in the anonibet thread talking about having their withdraws sent without a miner fee. Is this a known thing?

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