I wish I could continue to mine on Bitminter. My best guess is that my ISP blocked access (or ports) to Bitminter and BTCGuild and I have no choice but to mine on Eligius over port 3334.
Seeing posts about lousy payouts at Bitminter really hurts. Bitminter has been very good in the long term for mining.
Just wanna say, I never had it "so good when I could mine on Bitminter".
Topic: [1050 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees +MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] - page 120. (Read 837180 times)
November 14, 2013, 03:43:23 AM
November 14, 2013, 12:21:35 AM
"you've never had it this bad at Slush." 
My favorite part is this accompanies a lot of pool comparison posts. Apparently because slush's stats are so bland/basic, people don't quite realize when the luck is bad there. Meanwhile I seem to recall plenty of bitching about 20+ hour blocks at Slush within the last 2-4 weeks. But apparently it's "never that bad at Slush".
November 14, 2013, 12:17:28 AM
20 hours really isn't enough time to test out a pool nowadays. I know that my account page shows my expected per block btc amount. Assuming an average of 10 blocks per 24 hours and my current hashrate, it is almost perfectly accurate. It just takes time to see it since the payouts are very much lagging the work done.
November 13, 2013, 07:18:26 PM
Besides, if you normally average $50-100 per day and suddenly you only averaged $20 without any explicable reason, wouldn't you question it too?
That's the thing though.
The reason is quite explicable if you had cared to do even 5 minutes of research.
Instead, armed with zero knowledge, you opted to make a petulant post, informing us all that you wouldn't be sticking around because "you've never had it this bad at Slush."
But I have stuck around? And would like to?
If I had no intention of sticking around, I wouldn't have bothered commenting to begin with, and still wouldnt be. What sense does that make?
Doc had answered my question and I would've stuck around longer, but after this fantastic welcome back party I understand.
Slush was the one having terrible luck lately. Yet, I was mining better there (even with long blocks) rather than the relatively shorter blocks here. Thats all I was trying to figure out. Sans insults. But we're too petty for that it seems. Smiley emoticons and all
Perhaps it wasn't worth the time after all. I wont bother further then.
My friend I was polite. I explained what caused your issue. So if you want you can stay s or not. While henchman24 and I have knocked heads a few times he is correct that you not acknowledging why your score is low during the first 20 hours.
BTW if you leave the pool will pay your for the first 10 hours you are gone. So what ever you do I wish you luck in your life and much happiness.
November 13, 2013, 06:42:08 PM
Edit: Im not doin too bad, this is over 24hrs with 3 333 sticks.
That's a lot of sticks.
Sorry, couldn't help it.
Yeah, I think he should switch pools!
With that many sticks, he should be making WAY more!!! 
If I caan et hooked up with n old deal I was offered 2 days ago, I'll have a full set of 20 for the 20 port hub I got comin.
Still though, I think I'm doin ok for the 3 sticks runnin ight now.
November 13, 2013, 06:40:18 PM
Edit: Im not doin too bad, this is over 24hrs with 3 333 sticks.
That's a lot of sticks.
Sorry, couldn't help it.
Yeah, I think he should switch pools!
With that many sticks, he should be making WAY more!!! 
November 13, 2013, 06:38:35 PM
Edit: Im not doin too bad, this is over 24hrs with 3 333 sticks.
That's a lot of sticks.
Sorry, couldn't help it.
November 13, 2013, 06:28:02 PM
It all comes down to gamblers luck, but I get where ur comin from.
Edit: Im not doin too bad, this is over 24hrs with 3 333 sticks.
Bitcoins 0.00022485 0.00012438 0.00034923 0.00008696
Namecoins 0.00060195 0.00061161 0.00121356 0.00017392
Edit: Im not doin too bad, this is over 24hrs with 3 333 sticks.
Bitcoins 0.00022485 0.00012438 0.00034923 0.00008696
Namecoins 0.00060195 0.00061161 0.00121356 0.00017392
November 13, 2013, 05:54:36 PM
Let's calm down, guys. This is nothing to fight over. OmegaNemesis28, if you give the pool a few days I'm sure you will like it. I'll be happy to answer any questions you have.
If you mined only the last 24 hours then the payout looks bad because of the combination of bad luck right now (variance) and a 10 hour delay between doing work and getting paid.
Over 7000 people mine at Bitminter every day. They wouldn't do that if we paid out less than 50% of other pools.
There is some info on the payouts here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2769824
If you really want to understand it then look through Organofcorti's analysis: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2013/05/131-bitminter-and-luck.html
If you mined only the last 24 hours then the payout looks bad because of the combination of bad luck right now (variance) and a 10 hour delay between doing work and getting paid.
Over 7000 people mine at Bitminter every day. They wouldn't do that if we paid out less than 50% of other pools.
There is some info on the payouts here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2769824
If you really want to understand it then look through Organofcorti's analysis: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2013/05/131-bitminter-and-luck.html
November 13, 2013, 05:40:29 PM
Besides, if you normally average $50-100 per day and suddenly you only averaged $20 without any explicable reason, wouldn't you question it too?
That's the thing though.
The reason is quite explicable if you had cared to do even 5 minutes of research.
Instead, armed with zero knowledge, you opted to make a petulant post, informing us all that you wouldn't be sticking around because "you've never had it this bad at Slush."
But I have stuck around? And would like to?
If I had no intention of sticking around, I wouldn't have bothered commenting to begin with, and still wouldnt be. What sense does that make?
Doc had answered my question and I would've stuck around longer, but after this fantastic welcome back party I understand.
Slush was the one having terrible luck lately. Yet, I was mining better there (even with long blocks) rather than the relatively shorter blocks here. Thats all I was trying to figure out. Sans insults. But we're too petty for that it seems. Smiley emoticons and all
Perhaps it wasn't worth the time after all. I wont bother further then.
November 13, 2013, 05:34:59 PM
Besides, if you normally average $50-100 per day and suddenly you only averaged $20 without any explicable reason, wouldn't you question it too?
That's the thing though.
The reason is quite explicable if you had cared to do even 5 minutes of research.
Instead, armed with zero knowledge, you opted to make a petulant post, informing us all that you wouldn't be sticking around because "you've never had it this bad at Slush."
November 13, 2013, 05:24:29 PM
I wanted to come back to bitminter. But after mining for 20~ hours with 200 GH/s I'm only seeing 0.05BTC. Was it just a bad few rounds? Even with bad rounds, I never had it this bad at slush.
I like how people like you think omg this sucks when your averaging what, $20 a day and people like me with small ops are doin what, $0.50 - $1 a day.??
So I'm not supposed to wonder why I'm under performing just because of other people didn't put out for the hardware?
That doesn't make a lot of sense.
...
When I see people with KNC Jupiters who are having issues, I don't sit there and go "wow, why aren't you just happy with what you have?"
I didn't read him as saying that - just that he was marveling at the difference in scope.
"I like how people like you think..."
Read as a pretty negative connotation to me.
Besides, if you normally average $50-100 per day and suddenly you only averaged $20 without any explicable reason, wouldn't you question it too?
It'd be like me goin to the store wondering why milk all of a sudden if $0.50 more expensive, sure I'd be curious why it went up but at the same ime I'd just be like w/e and buy it because I need it knowing that there's nothing I can really do about it except o to a farm and milk a cow or free.
Edit: If anything, I wish I had $2,500 to go out and get 20 fury's right now to start hasing 45Gh/s
Well you see - there is something I can do about it. Switch back to another pool instead of Bitminter. The point of me complaining was to maybe see if someone knew what the issue was - and whether or not I could do something about it. Because if I switch pools, I shouldn't be missing $25/day in profit, potentially more, without a logical reason. Which I was hoping was an error on my part somewhere, but it appears not to be.
I don't want to switch back, and was looking for support. But it looks like I have no choice but to switch back unless I want to purposely be loosing out on BTC.
November 13, 2013, 05:08:05 PM
I wanted to come back to bitminter. But after mining for 20~ hours with 200 GH/s I'm only seeing 0.05BTC. Was it just a bad few rounds? Even with bad rounds, I never had it this bad at slush.
I like how people like you think omg this sucks when your averaging what, $20 a day and people like me with small ops are doin what, $0.50 - $1 a day.??
So I'm not supposed to wonder why I'm under performing just because of other people didn't put out for the hardware?
That doesn't make a lot of sense.
...
When I see people with KNC Jupiters who are having issues, I don't sit there and go "wow, why aren't you just happy with what you have?"
I didn't read him as saying that - just that he was marveling at the difference in scope.
"I like how people like you think..."
Read as a pretty negative connotation to me.
Besides, if you normally average $50-100 per day and suddenly you only averaged $20 without any explicable reason, wouldn't you question it too?
It'd be like me goin to the store wondering why milk all of a sudden if $0.50 more expensive, sure I'd be curious why it went up but at the same ime I'd just be like w/e and buy it because I need it knowing that there's nothing I can really do about it except o to a farm and milk a cow or free.
Edit: If anything, I wish I had $2,500 to go out and get 20 fury's right now to start hasing 45Gh/s
November 13, 2013, 05:02:51 PM
I wanted to come back to bitminter. But after mining for 20~ hours with 200 GH/s I'm only seeing 0.05BTC. Was it just a bad few rounds? Even with bad rounds, I never had it this bad at slush.
I like how people like you think omg this sucks when your averaging what, $20 a day and people like me with small ops are doin what, $0.50 - $1 a day.??
So I'm not supposed to wonder why I'm under performing just because of other people didn't put out for the hardware?
That doesn't make a lot of sense.
...
When I see people with KNC Jupiters who are having issues, I don't sit there and go "wow, why aren't you just happy with what you have?"
I didn't read him as saying that - just that he was marveling at the difference in scope.
"I like how people like you think..."
Read as a pretty negative connotation to me.
Besides, if you normally average $50-100 per day and suddenly you only averaged $20 without any explicable reason, wouldn't you question it too?
November 13, 2013, 04:55:44 PM
I wanted to come back to bitminter. But after mining for 20~ hours with 200 GH/s I'm only seeing 0.05BTC. Was it just a bad few rounds? Even with bad rounds, I never had it this bad at slush.
I like how people like you think omg this sucks when your averaging what, $20 a day and people like me with small ops are doin what, $0.50 - $1 a day.??
So I'm not supposed to wonder why I'm under performing just because of other people didn't put out for the hardware?
That doesn't make a lot of sense.
...
When I see people with KNC Jupiters who are having issues, I don't sit there and go "wow, why aren't you just happy with what you have?"
I didn't read him as saying that - just that he was marveling at the difference in scope.
November 13, 2013, 04:26:17 PM
I wanted to come back to bitminter. But after mining for 20~ hours with 200 GH/s I'm only seeing 0.05BTC. Was it just a bad few rounds? Even with bad rounds, I never had it this bad at slush.
I like how people like you think omg this sucks when your averaging what, $20 a day and people like me with small ops are doin what, $0.50 - $1 a day.??
So I'm not supposed to wonder why I'm under performing just because of other people didn't put out for the hardware?
That doesn't make a lot of sense.
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lol, true. I'd love to be mining 5 bitcents a day. But then again, I haven't paid the hardware outlay that I'm sure he has.
Exactly.
When I see people with KNC Jupiters who are having issues, I don't sit there and go "wow, why aren't you just happy with what you have?"
November 13, 2013, 04:15:59 PM
I wanted to come back to bitminter. But after mining for 20~ hours with 200 GH/s I'm only seeing 0.05BTC. Was it just a bad few rounds? Even with bad rounds, I never had it this bad at slush.
I like how people like you think omg this sucks when your averaging what, $20 a day and people like me with small ops are doin what, $0.50 - $1 a day.lol, true. I'd love to be mining 5 bitcents a day. But then again, I haven't paid the hardware outlay that I'm sure he has.
November 13, 2013, 01:51:37 PM
I wanted to come back to bitminter. But after mining for 20~ hours with 200 GH/s I'm only seeing 0.05BTC. Was it just a bad few rounds? Even with bad rounds, I never had it this bad at slush.
you do realize that the first 10 hours are your ramp up from 0 to 200gh don't you? I suggest you run for 100 hours then stop. you will continue to collect during the next 10 hours as your ramp down from 200gh to zero happens.
MorebloodWine some hash is on the way. 2 sticks
November 13, 2013, 01:51:20 PM
I wanted to come back to bitminter. But after mining for 20~ hours with 200 GH/s I'm only seeing 0.05BTC. Was it just a bad few rounds? Even with bad rounds, I never had it this bad at slush.
I like how people like you think omg this sucks when your averaging what, $20 a day and people like me with small ops are doin what, $0.50 - $1 a day. November 13, 2013, 01:45:59 PM
The future reward is what I was reading from. 0.05BTC. Normally within a day I have easy 0.2BTC~ even when things get rough. I'll let it run another day, but it still doesn't look like its improving.
16 blocks yesterday looks very nice. 5 blocks so far today is less nice. It goes up and down a bit. A day or two is often not enough to even out the element of luck.
Remember the 10 shift (10 hours right now) delay though. If you mined for only 24 hours so far and there is a 10 hour delay from work is done until that work is fully paid, it's only natural that the coins come in slowly at first. That doesn't mean you are paid badly, the pay is coming, whether you keep mining or not.
The patience with which you explain these concepts over and over is commendable. Especially since the comments, to some degree or another, always seem to have a "BitMinter is cheating me!" overtone.
You're a better man than I, Dr. H.
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