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Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 155. (Read 2591920 times)

sr. member
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Looks like a few "luck chasers" have moved on & missed that last block......more for me  Smiley
legendary
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No 3rd party makes p2pool really really awesome!

"they" (the ubiquitous they) can't hack, DDoS or pay-off monster pool to screw me nor can "they" play man-in-the-middle attack & jack.  Grin
legendary
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because they don't understand ...
because of the all-in-1 miner that it's not requiert skills to use it (rich can mine without geek skills) ...
that why i trust more in a strong and serious website that it expose somes publics nodes (with fees) of P2Pool ...
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I do not understand why people no mining p2pool.
If p2pool kept 2-4 ph/s we would have a couple of blocks per day
hero member
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Last block found was on Tuesday, August 4th @ 06:17 AM (UTC -08:00).

Not surprising with the drop in active mining on P2Pool the last few days.  Active miner accounts have been somewhat steady, but it seems people have been taking their hashes elsewhere lately.

That said... BOOM we just got a block. Grin
legendary
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Last block found was on Tuesday, August 4th @ 06:17 AM (UTC -08:00).
legendary
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Don`t panic! Organize!
Try limit number of connections, not transfer rate.
legendary
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1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
OK, looks like I need to do some bandwidth limiting to keep the family happy (p2pool is very bursty and saturates my bandwidth). I've modified the tc.sh script to add in port 9333 (as a separate class). What are minimum settings to still be a happy and contributing member to p2pool?


Edit: Even with severely restricted bandwidth settings, to the degree that I could hardly tell the difference on my router's bandwidth viewer, it was still affecting my daughter's ping quite badly. And I'm sure I had things set low enough to where I was probably damaging my participation in the pool.

I would use the router's QOS but I've had issue with that in the past with that killing my payouts with quite generous settings. It also knobbles my work videophone (again with generous settings) so I'm not sure what that's about.

I'll do some experimenting over the weekend.
legendary
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+1  Wink


and use http://nodes.p2pool.co/ to find P2Pool server ...  Cool
sr. member
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legendary
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1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
This may not be the right place for this but I had this site open...

http://p2pool.info/

And received several cha-ching sounds. I have no problem with that but it took me a while to track down as we haven't actually found a block in quitea while. It also doesn't seem to correlate with anyone else finding a block either (but I'm checking blockchain.info so who knows Wink )

Also, the "recent block" list is about 4 months old.

(Just did it again)
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
btw, how do we know & how can we find out who mined a particular block in p2p besides irc announcing it.

I believe it is in the block details somewhere. Look at the wallet transaction detail. I'm sure I saw it at one time somewhere when a friend was creating an online wallet that supported p2pool....sorry I can't be more specific. It's been over a year.
Unfortunately, there really isn't a way to identify which miner found the block.  The block itself doesn't provide insight into any particular miner.  The generation transaction just lists out how to breakdown the 25BTC.  You could feasibly look at shares to find out who submitted it, but then again, unless it was your own miner, any block created by an orphaned/dead share wouldn't be broadcast to the share chain.
legendary
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btw, how do we know & how can we find out who mined a particular block in p2p besides irc announcing it.

I believe it is in the block details somewhere. Look at the wallet transaction detail. I'm sure I saw it at one time somewhere when a friend was creating an online wallet that supported p2pool....sorry I can't be more specific. It's been over a year.
hero member
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Looks like the pool I mentioned above has dealt with the problem and is now showing more reasonable payouts...

Thanks for all the information.  Bitcoin is so fascinating. I wish I had more brain cells to comprehend it.
legendary
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...
btw, how do we know & how can we find out who mined a particular block in p2p besides irc announcing it.
....

The only way I'm aware of is to look for the share that found the block on each p2pool node.

The share hash is always the last 8 characters of the block hash or in the case of the last block:

Block hash: 0000000000000000125fbe84f1c4b64f51ca7270cffefb6d5391e41b0b5777b5 (share hash in bold)
legendary
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Mine Mine Mine
yeah i just noticed from my wallet.

btw, how do we know & how can we find out who mined a particular block in p2p besides irc announcing it.

can we make something like irc announcement @ windpath site ?

we need moar blox.
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
Yay, block!  Looks like it was from an orphaned/dead share...

It would certainly be interesting to see what happens if a miner on a node that sets a negative fee finds a block.  Does it really have the impact that we're seeing on europe.p2pool.co node where virtually every miner except for the ones on the node itself get a lower than expected payout?  I can't imagine this would have been missed for this long.

Forrestv, if you're lurking, could you provide some insight here?
legendary
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I am wondering if that is a result of setting the fee to a negative amount? Someone should try Smiley
sr. member
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Edit: Interesting discovery; the node has a negative fee set: http://europe.p2pool.co/fee




That is interesting.....

So that means that node is actually paying miners extra to mine there? Is that even possible with the p2pool code? I've actually had that node as a backup for when I reboot or meddle with my node because of it's low latency to me, but if it's going to pay me to mine there - I will!  Cheesy
legendary
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Their stats are completely off.  All of the miners on my node report considerably lower on this node than it does on my own.  A miner I have on OgNasty's pool shows higher on this node than it does on Nasty's.  No clue what's going on with their stats reporting but it sure as hell doesn't match any other node.

For example, take miner 1AckkfhXexaVqgg5Xc6dmidqmnKQRBbBw2 (a miner on europe.p2pool.co):

On http://europe.p2pool.co:9332/current_payouts it shows an expected payout of 1.02512013BTC
On windpath's node that same miner shows 0.49956312BTC
On my node that miner shows 0.49979125BTC

Now take a miner on my node 14hqYFqU9B8FzkQboDPjKsiyPs1B8Wf1ZB:

On that node it shows 0.03165553BTC
On windpath's node it shows 0.05680994BTC
On my node it shows 0.05683253BTC

It seems something is definitely up on that node, and it raises many questions.

My hope is it's an honest mistake caused from some tweak made for the stats generation...

My fear is that perhaps it's not.

The change, whatever it is, is certainly made to the main p2pool code and not /web_static as the API is reporting the info and it is being displayed properly by the interface.

Whether it is malicious or not I'm thinking:

A block found by any other p2pool node should include the correct share chain and payout regardless.

A block found by this node, even if stale/rejected by p2pool is still broadcast to Bitcoin, and if accepted will include these inaccurate payouts?

Edit: Interesting discovery; the node has a negative fee set: http://europe.p2pool.co/fee


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