[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 153.

windpath

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Just wanted to share a couple things with everyone to maintain transparency:

1. I have been testing P2Pool with BitcoinXT on my development node, it works as expected with really no performance differences at all.

2. In the next couple weeks(TM) I'll be releasing Chain Query (alpha: http://chainquery.com) on Github, once thats done I plan to rewrite my P2Pool node front end to use Chain Query and MySQL (the core P2Pool code does not need to be altered) and will relaunch http://minefast.CoinCadence.com on BitcoinXT with the new front end. I will release the full source for the new front end on Github.

The switch to XT is a personal decision, and shows my support for scaling Bitcoin. I believe it is the right path.

If you don't like the idea of bigger blocks and mine on my node you are welcome to find another that runs Bitcoin Core, or run your own.

My intention is not to start some debate about block size in this thread, there is plenty of that elsewhere.

As P2Pool miners we vote with our hashrate, in the coming months that hashrate on my node will be running off of BitcoinXT.

I hope that many of you (P2Pool node operators) will join me in supporting Bitcoin's growth by voting with your hashrate, I know that some of you will not, and thats your choice.

And that's all I have to say about that. Wink

Cheers.

yslyung

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sorry for the downtime on my node. pc crashed & had to rebuild db & it took a while. back online now.

ah yum yum yum & a block.

a block a day, keeps the . . . . . . . . . . away

notbatman

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Wow, p2pool has defiantly been rocking lately! I need more S5s...

p3yot33at3r

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Quote from: yslyung on August 13, 2015, 08:07:57 AM

now whereisblock ? me hungry

There it is Grin

Nom nom.......

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Mine at Jonny's Pool

They just yanked that data from blocktrail. And, the article is pretty full of errors. Describing ck.'s solo pool as people pooling their resources to find a block faster, but only the block finder gets the reward is completely wrong. Then they just cut/paste the same thing for kano's pool. Also, p2pool.org? That's not even a node... it's an information site run by windpath.

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Quote from: windpath on August 13, 2015, 11:23:20 AM

P2Pool made #19 on Business Insiders list of the top 21 mining pools, pretty cool, but we can do better

http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-pools-miners-ranked-2015-7

Businessinsider........ Cheesy

windpath

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P2Pool made #19 on Business Insiders list of the top 21 mining pools, pretty cool, but we can do better

http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-pools-miners-ranked-2015-7

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Quote from: vulgartrendkill on August 13, 2015, 05:19:46 AM

With all this talk of high DOA rates etc, I've been trying to decide what is best for my mining equipment. I have 3 S5's situated in a Chinese datacentre. I am in the UK.

These miners run through a Miningrigrental pool (main one in EU) which gives me immediate control over switching of nodes should I need to. I'm currently on Coin Cadence, but I wondered how I can reduce my DOA?

Would it be best to:

1. Choose a node nearest the physical location of my equipment? For example in China.

2. Choose a node nearest to the miningrigrental server? For example in Europe.

or

3. Choose or create a node nearest to my personal physical location? For example in The UK .

Or something else?

Sorry for the long question. I'm quite new to P2pool.

Thanks

the closer the better (miner to node). you can try to ping from your miner location *if you can*

this would give you an idea http://nodes.p2pool.co/

in asia you can try my node http://captminerp2pool.ddns.net:9332

if you need help to setup you can join irc webchat on my node too.

now whereisblock ? me hungry

windpath

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Quote from: vulgartrendkill on August 13, 2015, 05:19:46 AM

With all this talk of high DOA rates etc, I've been trying to decide what is best for my mining equipment. I have 3 S5's situated in a Chinese datacentre. I am in the UK.

These miners run through a Miningrigrental pool (main one in EU) which gives me immediate control over switching of nodes should I need to. I'm currently on Coin Cadence, but I wondered how I can reduce my DOA?

My node is going to be awful routing from China to the UK then to Ashburn VA, a share would literally travel around the world before it hit a p2pool node.

If you really want to stick with MRR then I'd look for nodes close to them, or ask them if they know of a low latency P2Pool node nearby.

This is still not ideal because MRR adds 2 hops between your miners and P2Pool.

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Quote from: Prelude on August 13, 2015, 07:07:37 AM

If you're going through a MRR server, you want your P2Pool node to be as close to that server as possible.

Thank you!

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If you're going through a MRR server, you want your P2Pool node to be as close to that server as possible.

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With all this talk of high DOA rates etc, I've been trying to decide what is best for my mining equipment. I have 3 S5's situated in a Chinese datacentre. I am in the UK.

These miners run through a Miningrigrental pool (main one in EU) which gives me immediate control over switching of nodes should I need to. I'm currently on Coin Cadence, but I wondered how I can reduce my DOA?

Would it be best to:

1. Choose a node nearest the physical location of my equipment? For example in China.

2. Choose a node nearest to the miningrigrental server? For example in Europe.

or

3. Choose or create a node nearest to my personal physical location? For example in The UK .

Or something else?

Sorry for the long question. I'm quite new to P2pool.

Thanks

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Quote from: kano on August 12, 2015, 05:22:29 PM

Any remote p2pool node means more latency ... running centralised p2pool nodes like a lot of people do already, means people are getting more rejects than the very high rejects p2pool has by default.

This is absolutely true.

P2Pool is inherently faster and more efficient when run locally. This means you make more money running your own node. If you can, do it!

This is what P2Pool is designed for.

For those that can't, or just want to check it out, mining to a nearby low-latency 0% fee node is a great option.

At this stage of the game, where we are 1% of the hashrate if we are lucky, talking about a "centralized" p2pool node is about the equivalent of discussing a single infantry solders role in the victory of a war.

P2Pool still remains the only 100% trustless solution for pooled mining, it is the only 100% transparent pool where you have full control if you run your own node.

If you mine on someone else's node, then you are trusting them to a small degree to acknowledge your shares and to include what you believe a reasonable amount of transactions in a block.

If you mine on a centralized pool you are trusting them with much more, particularly your earnings.

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Another two blocks in 24 hours......Nice!

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Quote from: yslyung on August 12, 2015, 04:55:27 PM

Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on August 12, 2015, 04:28:13 PM

Pretty sure that's the basis of what nonnakip and OgNasty have done for their NastyPoP implementation. Every miner connects to the ckpool instance, which directs to the p2pool node underneath.

but for miners far from him will have latency issues eh ?

i'm sure that's part of it & prolly he has a way to solve the latency issue ?

Any remote p2pool node means more latency ... running centralised p2pool nodes like a lot of people do already, means people are getting more rejects than the very high rejects p2pool has by default.

With ckproxy, the added latency is dependent upon where ckproxy is and where the p2pool you are talking to is.

If you are choosing between:
a) running a local ckproxy pointing to a remote p2pool
b) mining to a remote p2pool
Latency will be pretty much the same - the problem is the choice to use a remote p2pool.

If you are choosing between:
a) mining to a ckproxy on the p2pool node
b) mining to the p2pool node
again, latency will be pretty much the same since ckproxy talking to a local p2pool is only a tiny addition to the latency

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Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on August 12, 2015, 04:28:13 PM

Pretty sure that's the basis of what nonnakip and OgNasty have done for their NastyPoP implementation. Every miner connects to the ckpool instance, which directs to the p2pool node underneath.

but for miners far from him will have latency issues eh ?

i'm sure that's part of it & prolly he has a way to solve the latency issue ?

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Pretty sure that's the basis of what nonnakip and OgNasty have done for their NastyPoP implementation. Every miner connects to the ckpool instance, which directs to the p2pool node underneath.

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Quote from: Medow on August 12, 2015, 02:08:25 PM

Thank you.

Do you know which pool software give the ability to point it to other pool?

ckpool in proxy mode can be pointed at another pool or a p2pool node

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Quote from: rav3n_pl on August 12, 2015, 01:49:40 PM

Quote from: Medow on August 12, 2015, 12:14:00 PM

Is it possible to point p2pool pool to other pool using stratum protocol ?

I need to point a local p2pool to other pool for some purpose.

Thanks.

No, it is impossible. P2Pool is feed directly from bitcoind via getblocktemplate.

Thank you.

Do you know which pool software give the ability to point it to other pool?

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Quote from: Richy_T on August 12, 2015, 01:27:39 PM

The issue is really with bursty applications (which bitcoind certainly is and I suspect p2pool is). It is possible to saturate a pipe, causing issues, for relatively short periods of time. Applying a little traffic shaping will often not affect things adversely but provide an improved perception of performance all-round. This is the essence of QOS. There is no point paying huge amounts of money for a smoking-fast internet connection if you are only using that speed for a dozen milliseconds every hour.

Also, many of us are on ADSL where even someone also on ADSL connecting to us can saturate our upstream whilst only taking a small fraction of their own downstream. Bandwidth management is a thing.

I'm afraid you might be doing something wrong with your LAN. I too have a ADSL connection with a measly 3mb down/1 mb up bandwidth, but I am able to run a file server & a mining rig 24/7 that run 2 p2pool nodes & 15 different wallets (including 2 Bitcoin) as well as my daytime PC & a laptop without issue or bottlenecks, here is a screen of my router network usage:

...as can be seen, my usage rarely goes above 40kBs download & 34kBs upload, so running one p2pool node & one Bitcoin wallet is not a problem on even the slowest ADSL line. It's simply a case of setting maxconnections on your wallets & making sure your QOS settings are right, no changes to p2pool connections are needed - I use the standard settings. If you are still having bottleneck issues/slowdowns after checking your settings then it's time to buy a new router...... Wink

Edit: The only time you will drown your network is when you sync your wallets/p2pool (ie: restarts etc).

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