[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 800.

runeks

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Quote from: cabin on February 04, 2012, 10:24:31 AM

Should everyone be using the --submit-stale option in cgminer? The reason being, even if a share is stale, if it happens to be a winning share we definitely want it to be submitted to p2pool anyways so that it counts as a block find.

Good question. Can anyone answer this? Are we risking throwing away valid blocks by telling cgminer to discard stale shares?
Seems to me that this is the case. A stale share by cgminer is, as far as I know, a share that was found after a long poll. A long poll normally occurs when a new Bitcoin block is found. With P2Pool a long poll indicates that a new P2Pool "block" (share) has been found, not a new Bitcoin block. In the former case cgminer is correct in throwing away a share for a would-be orphan block (because the resulting block would be an orphan), but in the latter case a share might be a valid block even though it's stale... right?

terrytibbs

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Quote from: Fiyasko on February 04, 2012, 04:47:06 AM

Can we fix that... like... Copy outta cmd... pwetty pwease?

Um.. it's right click -> mark -> select the text you'd like to copy -> and enter to copy to your clipboard.
Did you try using your search engine of choice (I use DuckDuckGo)?

wachtwoord

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Ok found the newest version of p2pool. The reporting looks better now (with a range)

Proofer

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Quote from: twmz on February 04, 2012, 09:21:23 AM

Quote from: Fiyasko on February 04, 2012, 04:47:06 AM

Annnd heres my self typed p2pool report.. <---Can we fix that... like... Copy outta cmd... pwetty pwease?

You can copy out of the cmd window, but it is annoying. Talk to Microsoft if you want it fixed (it has nothing to do with p2pool):

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/windows_dos_copy.mspx?mfr=true

And as thirdlight mentioned in another context, p2pool keeps a log of what it writes to the cmd window. The log is data\bitcoin\log; you can open it with a text editor and copy out of that as an alternative to copying from the cmd window.

cabin

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Should everyone be using the --submit-stale option in cgminer? The reason being, even if a share is stale, if it happens to be a winning share we definitely want it to be submitted to p2pool anyways so that it counts as a block find.

twmz

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Quote from: Fiyasko on February 04, 2012, 04:47:06 AM

Annnd heres my self typed p2pool report.. <---Can we fix that... like... Copy outta cmd... pwetty pwease?

You can copy out of the cmd window, but it is annoying. Talk to Microsoft if you want it fixed (it has nothing to do with p2pool):

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/windows_dos_copy.mspx?mfr=true

Quote from: Fiyasko on February 04, 2012, 04:47:06 AM

Could someonelooks at my stats and tell me if anything is 'bad'? A few things of my concern are:
P2pool says i have submitted 3 shares, Where as CG miner says i have submitted 108
I only have 10 Peers, I would expecet there to be more peers on the P2Pool network... I have my ports all setup and ready... Is this amount normalish?

As someone mentioned, p2pool sends work to cgminer at a low difficulty but only some of them count as real shares in p2pool. That is why p2pool and cgminer disagree and it is normal. Real p2pool shares have a high difficulty and you won't find very many of them:

gribble: The average time to generate a block at 610000 Khps, given the supplied difficulty of 375.328335592, is 44 minutes and 2 seconds

Of course that is an average and just like normal bitcoin blocks, it may sometimes take 3 hours to find a share and other times only 10 minutes.

Last, 10 peers is not abnormal, especially if you just recently restarted. You client does not connect to all peers on the network, only a handful. If you have any incoming (it lists them), then you know your firewall is configured correctly. If you have no incoming peers and have been running p2pool for more than a day or two, then probably your firewall is not configured correctly. It doesn't really matter that much though.

thirdlight

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Quote from: Fiyasko on February 04, 2012, 04:47:06 AM

And like.. a site, Or Thing... to show possible incoming rewards

I use this to keep an eye on things. If you don't set an address, you can find the one you're using at the top of the log at
/your-p2pool-directory/data/bitcoin/log

wachtwoord

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Quote from: m3ta on February 03, 2012, 11:01:59 PM

Quote from: wachtwoord on February 03, 2012, 07:47:23 PM

20±20% normally means

What this means is that you should upgrade, because, for a while now, P2Pool's log is like this:

Code:

Pool stales: 9% Own: ~0% (0-78%) Own efficiency: ~110% (24-110%)

The "±" is not used for some time, so you have an oldish version and it's really not worth it to make any assessments based on a not updated version.

I downloaded it on Sunday from the first post in this thread. Where can I find a newer version?

ThiagoCMC

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Quote from: coretechs on February 04, 2012, 02:42:41 AM

In the time between blocks, there are still subsidy payments rolling out to miners!

These donations comes immediately?!

Fiyasko

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Okey Dokey Lokey

Got everything working now!, Ima server!, Heres a snippit from my cgminer....
Why the heck cant we copy from the p2poolwindow... i have to type it all x.x

Code:

 cgminer version 2.1.2 - Started: [2012-02-03 23:42:44]
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 (5s):617.2 (avg):610.9 Mh/s | Q:2849  A:108  R:0  HW:0  E:4%  U:0.98/m
 TQ: 4  ST: 5  SS: 0  DW: 2622  NB: 14  LW: 2937  GF: 3  RF: 0
 Connected to http://127.0.0.1:9332/ with LP as user DingoRabiit
 Block: 000005e687dc00a502b2be91a5e7ea3b...  Started: [01:29:58]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [P]ool management [G]PU management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 GPU 0:  76.0C  80%    | 308.0/305.4Mh/s | A:53 R:0 HW:0 U: 0.48/m I: 3
 GPU 1:  81.0C  90%    | 308.8/305.6Mh/s | A:55 R:0 HW:0 U: 0.50/m I: 3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[2012-02-04 01:30:45] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-04 01:31:01] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-04 01:31:07] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-04 01:31:11] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-04 01:31:14] Accepted 00000000.1ea016bf.7a02eac1 GPU 1 thread 1
[2012-02-04 01:31:15] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-04 01:31:25] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-04 01:31:28] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-04 01:31:32] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-04 01:31:47] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-04 01:32:13] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-04 01:32:21] Accepted 00000000.11c28554.526abed4 GPU 0 thread 0

Annnd heres my self typed p2pool report.. <---Can we fix that... like... Copy outta cmd... pwetty pwease?

Code:

--------------HandwrittenCopy--------------------
Pool:162GH/s in 17381 shares (10530/17388 verified)
Recent: 0.43% >679MH/s Shares:3 (0 orphan, 0 dead) Peers: 10 (0 incoming)
Average time between blocks: 0.41days
Pool stales: 9% Own:28+/-28% Own efficiency: 79+/-31%

With the above, It really makes me feel like im "missing the target" when im hashing... Seriously.. asif im Missing..., Whereas regular pools are all like WORKWORKWWORKORKWFLSDANFKLDRLWPRLFPDSALPRWOKRWORKROWKAOEWKRWORARKWORWKORWKOWROK WORKWORKMOREMOREMOREMOREMOREMOREMOREMORE

Could someonelooks at my stats and tell me if anything is 'bad'? A few things of my concern are:
P2pool says i have submitted 3 shares, Where as CG miner says i have submitted 108
I only have 10 Peers, I would expecet there to be more peers on the P2Pool network... I have my ports all setup and ready... Is this amount normalish?
I see a GF:3 in cg miner, is that where i should look for shares?
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Hey where can we check some kind of like.... Chart.. thingy of how many hashes per block we are doing?(each individual)
And like.. a site, Or Thing... to show possible incoming rewards

ChanceCoats123

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When we've had a long dry streak of blocks, does that decrease the work given out to each miner? As I've said, I have had a serious dry streak of shares when my mhash has been consistent for the past 2-3 weeks. I've gotten about 7-8 shares in the past 36 hours... Not nearly close to my usual 20-30 per 24 hours.

Has anyone else seen a decrease in shares?

coretechs

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In the time between blocks, there are still subsidy payments rolling out to miners!

ChanceCoats123

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Quote from: ChanceCoats123 on February 04, 2012, 01:07:57 AM

It's definitely the 2.5 SDK. I uninstalled all previous OpenCL and ATI drivers before I got it installed then went to 11.12.

Did you have a newer sdk installed before 2.5? If you did uninstall might not be enough IIRC. Some people have had to manually change the .dlls. Did you delete the .bin file in cgminer folder after switching sdks?

Edit: Did you update to the newest cgminer? I find the newest gives me slightly lower hash rates.

It's been about two days without a block by the way, small pool = high variance.

I ended up switching it to my other rig. The mhash is on par now. I must not have gotten all of the newer SDK out of the way before installing 2.5. Thanks for that.

Just waiting on shares now. Hopefully we can find a block soon so I can be sure this is working right. My rigs got flipped now.

Fiyasko

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Okey Dokey Lokey

Thanks guys! I was definitly Spooked off of trying P2Pool because of the weird readouts i was getting, I'll leave it running overnight and see what happens, Worst case scenario, I explode.
Most practical worst case senario, I lose 1btc Sad

Question:How exactly does the Payout work with P2Pool? Im curious, (ofc it's prop) But im wondering What/Who/How do/does they/it control(s) the payout prop of the block?

ThiagoCMC

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Quote from: ThiagoCMC on February 04, 2012, 12:30:44 AM

Well... What a hell... More 1.3GHash... Roll Eyes

More 820MHash to P2Pool... Cool

This is the future of CryptoCurrencies!!
Lets make P2Pool reach 500GHash in 1 month!! Grin

ChanceCoats123

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Quote from: ChanceCoats123 on February 03, 2012, 11:13:25 PM

2.5 and 11.12 drivers. I need to change the drivers. I should probably check again for p2pool updates too. Which drivers do you recommend, by the way?

I use 11.12 and 2.5 sdk. Also it's difficult to roll back the sdk if you've installed a newer version, are you sure you are on 2.5? And, if you build the binaries on cgminer and then change sdk but do not delete and rebuild the binaries, you will still be getting the old hash rate.

In other words, say you have 2.6 installed and run cgminer for the first time from a fresh download, then you change sdk and don't delete the .bin file in the cgminer folder, you will still be running 2.6. I'm not sure of the technical reasons for this, but it works for me.

It's definitely the 2.5 SDK. I uninstalled all previous OpenCL and ATI drivers before I got it installed then went to 11.12.

As for the speed update, I will wait the two hours to see if that works. I'm still hardly getting shares though. It's just bothering me because it seems I've had a huge drop off in shares lately, but my speeds have been consistent for almost a month now. I've also not seen a paycheck in a while (which I know is to be expected), but it's been long enough to make me unhappy...

Vanderbleek

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JackRabiit, the longpoll statements you are seeing are correct. It SHOULD be showing up every time p2pool says new work.

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Quote from: Fiyasko on February 04, 2012, 12:55:35 AM

I cant help but Assume that i Will Not be paied for the 18 shares that i submitted, Because i forgot Where to put my bitcoin address. Perhaps thats why everything is messing up?

If you don't specify a bitcoin address, bitcoind automatically generates one. I think it even automatically gets labeled p2pool.

ThiagoCMC

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@JackRabiit

I'm writing a Quick Guide for P2Pool... This is the kind of pool that Bitcoin network deserves.

I would like to see it with 1THash in 3 months!

Fiyasko

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Hey guys! Im really intrested in running in the P2Pool, PROPERLY....
Me running in P2Pool...Please tell me something Wrong is going on here...

Code:

 cgminer version 2.1.2 - Started: [2012-02-03 20:18:38]
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 (5s):630.0 (avg):630.1 Mh/s | Q:533  A:18  R:0  HW:0  E:3%  U:0.93/m
 TQ: 4  ST: 5  SS: 0  DW: 505  NB: 4  LW: 544  GF: 4  RF: 0
 Connected to http://127.0.0.1:9332/ with LP as user DingoRabiit
 Block: 00000a18ada2f161bf007061654f41cd...  Started: [20:34:23]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [P]ool management [G]PU management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 GPU 0:  73.0C  70%    | 314.4/314.8Mh/s | A:10 R:0 HW:0 U:0.52/m I: 3
 GPU 1:  79.0C  90%    | 315.4/315.7Mh/s | A: 8 R:0 HW:0 U:0.41/m I: 3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[2012-02-03 20:36:45] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-03 20:36:47] Accepted 00000000.12d5a0b0.f281cbb5 GPU 0 thread 2
[2012-02-03 20:36:48] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-03 20:36:50] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-03 20:37:11] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-03 20:37:14] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-03 20:37:17] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-03 20:37:24] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-03 20:37:26] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-03 20:37:31] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-03 20:37:33] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work
[2012-02-03 20:37:48] LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work

The P2Pool window (wich i for somereason cannot Copy out of) consistently states
"Recent : 0.00% >0H/s Shares: 0 (0 orphan, 0 dead) Peers :10"
Making me think that either there is a information pulling error
Or that my work isnt being counted.
Or that my work isnt being counted as "my speed"

also, Whenever p2pool goes: New work for worker!"
Cgminer (at the same time) goes: "LONGPOLL requested work restart, waiting on fresh work"

Where as with DfeepBit i get:

Code:

 cgminer version 2.1.2 - Started: [2012-02-03 20:40:29]
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 (5s):627.5 (avg):627.1 Mh/s | Q:41  A:33  R:0  HW:0  E:80%  U:8.78/m
 TQ: 1  ST: 2  SS: 0  DW: 3  NB: 2  LW: 0  GF: 1  RF: 0
 Connected to http://pit.deepbit.net:8332 with LP as user [email protected]
 Block: 000005e737961b65a7399dd60f0097c4...  Started: [20:43:39]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [P]ool management [G]PU management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 GPU 0:  73.0C  70%    | 312.6/317.5Mh/s | A:16 R:0 HW:0 U: 4.26/m I: 3
 GPU 1:  79.0C  90%    | 314.8/319.4Mh/s | A:17 R:0 HW:0 U: 4.52/m I: 3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[2012-02-03 20:43:37] Accepted 00000000.030fb754.238c8c1c GPU 1 thread 1
[2012-02-03 20:43:39] LONGPOLL detected new block on network, waiting on fresh w
ork
[2012-02-03 20:43:39] Pool 0 not providing work fast enough
[2012-02-03 20:43:49] Accepted 00000000.d26a1823.4037e22d GPU 1 thread 3
[2012-02-03 20:43:50] Accepted 00000000.4c0c11bc.31859f40 GPU 1 thread 1
[2012-02-03 20:43:54] Accepted 00000000.0ad04de2.6220c414 GPU 1 thread 3
[2012-02-03 20:43:54] Accepted 00000000.aaa23a72.d39583e8 GPU 0 thread 2
[2012-02-03 20:43:57] Accepted 00000000.36b87653.46ef1082 GPU 1 thread 1
[2012-02-03 20:43:58] Accepted 00000000.7d43f53b.eac65d86 GPU 1 thread 1
[2012-02-03 20:44:19] Accepted 00000000.6bc9e577.b4779926 GPU 1 thread 1
[2012-02-03 20:44:19] Accepted 00000000.60505864.841800b1 GPU 0 thread 0

I hear that there is a noteable differance in share structure difficulty for p2pool, But surely SOMETHING, is running incorrectly.
The amount of work im getting from P2Pool is apparently so low that im wasting hashing power, That just cant be right.

I also noticed that when using my comp that has an AVprog, P2Pool runs like Garbage (Most definitly due to the AV prog scanning P2Pools traffic). Turning off the AVprog allows P2Pool to run and mine, But it runs like crap...

I cant help but Assume that i Will Not be paied for the 18 shares that i submitted, Because i forgot Where to put my bitcoin address. Perhaps thats why everything is messing up?

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