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niko

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There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.

Quote from: dooglus on August 30, 2012, 05:50:00 PM

Quote from: niko on August 29, 2012, 09:13:21 AM

Still, I'm simply curious: is vanitygen search space random, or deterministic? That is, do those who start searching before others always arrive first (assuming the same hashrate)?

If it was deterministic then I would be able to steal the bitcoins from 1NaNoBitU2q8czqE2y5rEQPj4qcW6K3mFp or any other address found using vanitygen just by searching for it and waiting about as long as it too the owner to find it.

OUCH! That hurt. Thanks for pointing out.

dooglus

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Quote from: niko on August 29, 2012, 09:13:21 AM

Still, I'm simply curious: is vanitygen search space random, or deterministic? That is, do those who start searching before others always arrive first (assuming the same hashrate)?

If it was deterministic then I would be able to steal the bitcoins from 1NaNoBitU2q8czqE2y5rEQPj4qcW6K3mFp or any other address found using vanitygen just by searching for it and waiting about as long as it too the owner to find it.

thallium205

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To me it's very clear that he's merely splitting up the money among several new addresses that he owns. I followed 2 paths from his ownership node from the main address, and you can tell hes sending it to relatively inactive owners (since these owners only own a single address and have no other owners who sent them money), which suggests hes just sending it to brand new addresses with relatively no activity. I only found one deposit where he sent the money to Mt Gox, and another where he probably sent it to a different person. Then again, I only clicked around for a bit:
http://i.imgur.com/P3q88.png

Here's his ownership node if any of you are interested -> http://blockviewer.com/#/node/28274126

dlasher

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Balance continues to drop : 307,335.83452016 BTC (8/30/2012)

molecular

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Quote from: naima53 on August 29, 2012, 09:58:17 AM

If I take it ...

And buried under one of these sleepers ...

You try to find? Grin

In my opinion, easier to use the method below ...
(Russia has allowed the extraction of gold to ~~private individuals~~ (easy to make gold mining cartel), but not the industry method .. (without technology) )

Wow, this is the first time I actually understand what you're saying, naima53. Use images MORE!

Spekulatius

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"Insignificance" I'll just leave that here.

ErebusBat

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I am the one who knocks

I'll just leave this here:

Yuhfhrh

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Quote from: BTCurious on August 29, 2012, 04:50:05 PM

Quote from: naima53 on August 29, 2012, 09:58:17 AM

If I take it ...

And buried under one of these sleepers ...

You try to find? Grin

The chance to find it is higher than the chance to find the private key for a full address.

Very true

BTCurious

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^SEM img of Si wafer edge, scanned 2012-3-12.

Quote from: naima53 on August 29, 2012, 09:58:17 AM

If I take it ...

And buried under one of these sleepers ...

You try to find? Grin

The chance to find it is higher than the chance to find the private key for a full address.

naima53

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If I take it ...

And buried under one of these sleepers ...

You try to find? Grin

In my opinion, easier to use the method below ...
(Russia has allowed the extraction of gold to ~~private individuals~~ (easy to make gold mining cartel), but not the industry method .. (without technology) )

BTCurious

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^SEM img of Si wafer edge, scanned 2012-3-12.

As far as I know, it's random. A random seed is picked when starting, then a bunch of keys which are increments of this starting point are tried (this is more efficient than having every key tested being random).

niko

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There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.

Quote from: BTCurious on August 29, 2012, 09:06:36 AM

Quote from: niko on August 29, 2012, 08:00:18 AM

Quote from: naima53 on August 29, 2012, 05:05:06 AM

You have to learn to re-school mathematics .. It's impossible (slowly) Do not waste your time for nothing.

You don't understand. It is immensely improbable, but not impossible. Only possible outcomes are taken into account to calculate the probability, hence him hitting the jackpot is one. Every second of your life things you call "impossible" happen, albeit usually not as favorable as what I jokingly mentioned above.
Think about this - there were likely a billion sperm cells competing for your mother's egg cell in the month she conceived you. And here you are, the way you are. Definitely not impossible.

Lol, a billion is nothing compared to this.
See, technically you're right.
Practically, he can spend his time better. He has a better chance to simply guess a bank, a login and a password, and hit the bank account of a millionaire.

Very much true. You could even add to this chain of events that the millionaire never notices.

Still, I'm simply curious: is vanitygen search space random, or deterministic? That is, do those who start searching before others always arrive first (assuming the same hashrate)?

naima53

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Quote from: niko on August 29, 2012, 09:02:37 AM

Quote from: naima53 on August 29, 2012, 08:50:34 AM

Quote from: axus on August 29, 2012, 08:39:44 AM

It'll go faster if you use oclvanitygen!

using GPU - write to disk is slower, but "brute force" - faster. In any case, it's a joke. Cheesy

But seriously - it is possible to pre-generate a lot of addresses. And when every inhabitant of the Earth will be 100 addresses - will be more likely to find .. Roll Eyes

...1/100th of their btc balance! Cheesy

the probability to find 1\10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
forgot ... for the year Roll Eyes

BTCurious

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^SEM img of Si wafer edge, scanned 2012-3-12.

Quote from: niko on August 29, 2012, 08:00:18 AM

Quote from: naima53 on August 29, 2012, 05:05:06 AM

You have to learn to re-school mathematics .. It's impossible (slowly) Do not waste your time for nothing.

You don't understand. It is immensely improbable, but not impossible. Only possible outcomes are taken into account to calculate the probability, hence him hitting the jackpot is one. Every second of your life things you call "impossible" happen, albeit usually not as favorable as what I jokingly mentioned above.
Think about this - there were likely a billion sperm cells competing for your mother's egg cell in the month she conceived you. And here you are, the way you are. Definitely not impossible.

Lol, a billion is nothing compared to this.
See, technically you're right.
Practically, he can spend his time better. He has a better chance to simply guess a bank, a login and a password, and hit the bank account of a millionaire.

niko

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There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.

Quote from: naima53 on August 29, 2012, 08:50:34 AM

Quote from: axus on August 29, 2012, 08:39:44 AM

It'll go faster if you use oclvanitygen!

using GPU - write to disk is slower, but "brute force" - faster. In any case, it's a joke. Cheesy

But seriously - it is possible to pre-generate a lot of addresses. And when every inhabitant of the Earth will be 100 addresses - will be more likely to find .. Roll Eyes

...1/100th of their btc balance! Cheesy

runlinux

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heh, with 55MKey/s sec I was down to 1.1x10^30 years.

naima53

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Quote from: axus on August 29, 2012, 08:39:44 AM

It'll go faster if you use oclvanitygen!

using GPU - write to disk is slower, but "brute force" - faster. In any case, it's a joke. Cheesy

But seriously - it is possible to pre-generate a lot of addresses. And when every inhabitant of the Earth will be 100 addresses - will be more likely to find .. Roll Eyes

axus

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It'll go faster if you use oclvanitygen!

naima53

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Quote from: niko on August 29, 2012, 08:00:18 AM

Think about this - there were likely a billion sperm cells competing for your mother's egg cell in the month she conceived you. And here you are, the way you are. Definitely not impossible.

ha ha! this is!

Russian humor is no different from yours, I just did not read. Post above - an example of Russian humor.

niko

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There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.

Quote from: naima53 on August 29, 2012, 05:05:06 AM

Quote from: niko on August 29, 2012, 01:01:47 AM

Quote from: LoweryCBS on August 28, 2012, 01:10:43 PM

Quote from: endless-speculators

*endless-speculation*

Look, I'm tired of this thread popping up under "Show unread posts since last visit" so I'm going to put an end to it.

This address is mine.

...or soon will be: Bwahahahahahah!!!1!

Seriously, though, what would you do if it suddenly churns out the priv key?

You have to learn to re-school mathematics .. It's impossible (slowly) Do not waste your time for nothing.

You don't understand. It is immensely improbable, but not impossible. Only possible outcomes are taken into account to calculate the probability, hence him hitting the jackpot is one. Every second of your life things you call "impossible" happen, albeit usually not as favorable as what I jokingly mentioned above.
Think about this - there were likely a billion sperm cells competing for your mother's egg cell in the month she conceived you. And here you are, the way you are. Definitely not impossible.

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