Topic: #2 Bitcointalk Poker Series (0.05 BTC & BIG BTC Ticket sponsored by SwC Poker) - page 19. (Read 5684 times)

I always had a love-hate relationship with Poker I am admiring people, who are able to make good money longterm (or a living) with it, because for me this is unthinkable - not because of the difficulty to master the game itself, but because it's so time-consuming, you are a prisoner to your computer and the mental part is so huge. Sportsbetting is already a rollercoaster, but Poker is so much worse for my liking.

So I just play Poker from time to time, if there is nothing else to do like during these Corona times. My beloved Bundesliga will start again on the weekend and watching/betting some football brings me more joy than playing the devils game called Poker
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Well the thing is that it doesnt really needs some skill to be good at this game. Someone could be very good to be able to fold at the right time without having to lose alot of chips or be able to call some bluff. However if luck is not on your side, even someone with bad cards and some bluff could win the game although you have a pair of Ace


Yes it is really time consuming indeed and thats how most people lose out in the end after they made it quite good after the first or second break imo 

I don't think the late reg is an issue once you increase the starting stacks to 5k. Besides, it is up to the players at the table to.. play, right? I keep seeing people go all in preflop when they have 50bb and they sit with AT, JQ, A9 off suit and if you are going to play like that I don't think you can blame people who late reg if you end up out of the money.

I know I'm not a pro and I'm not playing these tournaments as if it's the $1k Thursday Thrilla so it's all for fun, really. If someone wants to sit out after making some good pots - let them. Doesn't really change anything from them becoming super tight from that point either.

Happy to see 5k start stack though!

I also think 20 minutes is a good decision. The late registration was really a bit too long and 20 minutes is really fair and should be absolutely enough. Thumbs up for the decision. 

Yes, in theory everyone can still make it. I guess you could make the final by playing only three tourneys (but you would have to minimum Top3 in all of them ). Realistically though, I am missing the skill to make any noise.

I always had a love-hate relationship with Poker I am admiring people, who are able to make good money longterm (or a living) with it, because for me this is unthinkable - not because of the difficulty to master the game itself, but because it's so time-consuming, you are a prisoner to your computer and the mental part is so huge. Sportsbetting is already a rollercoaster, but Poker is so much worse for my liking.

So I just play Poker from time to time, if there is nothing else to do like during these Corona times. My beloved Bundesliga will start again on the weekend and watching/betting some football brings me more joy than playing the devils game called Poker

Happened to me last night when I was under 1500 chips, all those with higher chip stack keep pressuring me with higher stake whenever I have the big or small blind. Part of the strategy indeed and I consider this as smart play to pressure someone because once you got 10 or 9 people on the game that means it is almost safe that you might secure some point


Why? there are still 6 more games to go and at this point everyone still have a chance to get into the grand final

Hhampuz already explained to you in chat and it wasn't a bad play. You only had around 2k, he had 10k, was among the chipleaders and was big blind. In these kind of situations you can call an all-in from small stacks with any two cards basically. In the majority of scenarios you would have two live cards and probabilty to win is not that bad as one would think:


Source: https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tools/odds-calculator/texas-holdem

33% vs 66% is not too shabby, if you can eliminate a player risking only few chips. Hhampuz had a bit of "bad luck", because he only had one live card, since you had the T too. But it's still only 22% vs 75% in your favour. It was a suckout, but happens all the time in poker. You sucked out players too in the past in guess Part of the game.


I wasn't in the mood to play and since I don't have any chances to reach the Grand Final anyway, I don't feel urged to play every tournament.

hmm IDK if it's late to apply this but I feel that the structure should give players incentive to gain the most points instead of just gaining points to qualify for the final game
at the moment it doesn't matter if you collect 80 points cause you will gain the same benefits as the one who finishes on 9th place

the current structure is making people chasing some points just to qualify , while if it was better to finish in top 3 for example things would change and you probably will see players competing for top spot

maybe in the next series the structure should reward the top 3 players based on points , or maybe we should cancel the finale as well and credit the final prizes based on points

Chill out, it is not about you We always have quite a few late regs. I didn't check if it is always the same guys or not and at this point it doesn't even matter if somebody used late reg as a part of their strategy. It was allowed by the rules and if somebody profited from that - good for them. Shorter late reg just makes the game more fun and fair for those that start from the begging and that is a plus for me.

I had this out of mind. I will make a post on that topic and will active the notification. Sorry guys.
Damn it guys! I feel the heat. I was one of the guy who joined at the last minute. To be honest I was in-between some other regular task so I thought to join late and I am lucky that I did not miss it. If I was few minutes late then I would miss last night. Take it easy as this was not my priority last night.

I will vote for 10 minutes late registration. I think this is standard instead of having 55 minutes. 

Good decision. This should help reduce the possibility of taking advantage with late reg.


Yo can't stop people trying to take advantage of the system but we can try to take away their possible gains and in  that way discourage them from even trying. This late reg shortening seems a good step in that direction.

As I already pointed out before I am here to have some fun not play super serious poker. That comes more as a chore then fun and I enter that mode only when much bigger stakes are on the table That being said I wanted to play "seriously" our final game of the last series and existed the tournament in record time. Go figure, maybe I am better player or I have more luck when having fun.

It was nothing more than lucky hands, I was down to almost 500 chips and made a comeback with few lucky hands that was all. It was a fun game last night when we were the last two standing but I got greedy and went all in hoping that you wouldnt catch my bad hands but Yeah I wasnt lucky until the end

I guess you cant be lucky everytime but considering how I was at 500 chips and managed to get top 2 is just like a miracle, I was just aiming for #10 as I think I wouldnt stay much longer


Nicely done Efialtis  

I will ask SwC to reduce Late registration (20 minutes) - thanks for the input guys. It's only normal it will take some time before we sort out such details but please also keep in mind I can't ask them to edit stuff every couple of days - we don't want to become a pain, do we.

I personally have nothing against no late reg at all, but since some of us need it, I think we all can agree on something in between.

What about 20 minutes, guys? I mean, it's really nothing in regards to the possibility of taking advantage of it. But, on the other hand, it is much better than no late reg for those of us who need it.

**Sorry no quotes and replies tough on phone.

My thoughts on the reduced late reg were more to keep the tournament length roughly the same with a larger stack - i had also mentioned shorter levels to that effect. I completely get where everyone is coming from here and would be fine with something anywhere from no late reg to a 15 minute late reg. Lets face it there aren't hundreds of us joining, everyone knows where or when... well almost @sygambler  

It really depends on peoples motivations most of us here want to have a good time, sure winning is great. If someone is going to angle they are going to angle. Hell right now it looks like you can reg not play and still get some points, not a great plan but possible.

For series tournaments here is my ideal structure.
Freezout - 2 level late reg - and 8 minute levels with a 7500 stack.

Either way see you guys next Saturday. I woke up about 20 minutes after late reg with my phone firmly muffled under my gut  

Thanks Tykiwanuka

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@BitcoinGirl.Club
You should pop back into my hand discussion thread to continue going over the hand you posted.  Would be nice to hear how it played out.

I did not want to suggest something like this because I will be on and off during this series but now that it has been mentioned - I strongly support this.
I'd even go as far as reject late regs completely, if somebody is late to the game he will just lose a few early blinds which is no big deal at all.

Late regs in a point-based placement tournaments will always lead to people trying to get most out of the system.

Don't feed me this bullshit, lol! Who goes against all-in with 5-10 offsuit? Really! High card: 10, not same suited, difference of more than 4 between cards. No chance of straight or flush with both hole cards, awful chance of pair and that too a weak pair. Even newbie player won't play this hand. But you went against me with these cards and surprisingly won!! I felt like killing you at the moment. Tell to the Goddess of Luck who was on your side yesterday and dealt 5 among community cards that next time her charm won't work.

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@tyKiwanuka why didn't you play poker this week?

thank you figmentofmyass  and TyKiwanuka Was fun yesterday.
But this TikTok guys made me sick

It was Murat/hardtime.


The call on the flop was very borderline imo, but some people like their overcards and who knows what read he had on efialtis (plus the bounty that was available as figment mentioned). I would have folded on the flop too, but tbf on the turn the play was reasonable then, since it was acutally K10 suited and he had a flush draw then with another club on the turn, so quite some outs (and chips).

there seems to be a consensus forming pretty quickly about this. i know @Steamtyme was pushing for shorter late reg a few days ago too.

there's already 2 players registered for next week, @morvillz7z and @CCwatcher420. if changing late registration is anything like changing starting stacks, they may need to unregister before SwC can change it.

so, what'll it be? 15 minutes? 20 minutes? that still gives me a slight cushion in case i hit the snooze button at 10am.

another way to prevent points angling would be a top-heavy points structure, but that seemed to be fairly contentious when suggested before, and plus we're already 2 games in. the ideal IMO is smooth points payout w/ large fields, but unfortunately it seems we're stuck at 2-3 tables tops.


because he's sucking out.

i guess there was some added incentive to stay in pots with @efialtis this time since there was a 3k chip bounty on his head? anybody remember who it was?

I kinda feel like a lot of people are sitting out trying to last longer and gain points. Half the game 3-4 players were sitting out on my table. Then you got a few that are joining late(nearly last minute) and that really is angling for points as well. Blinds aren't really that high so it doesn't hurt them to sit out or not join til late reg is almost over.

I really think we should get a 10 minute late reg for the game so this advantage cannot be used.

As far as me having no points, it's poker. Sometimes hands hold, sometimes they don't. I'm not out yet. Seen some really bad plays by some users, so i'm shocked I haven't gotten points yet. I'll get there.

Efialtis went out on a big shocker. He raised preflop and was called. Board came something like 662 or something really low and a pair. I'm sure he can post the hand history. Flop was bet by efialtis and snap called by the villian. Efialtis has about 1600 chips left at this point. Turn came an 8 I believe. Efialtis bets 630 and again is snap called. Villain has K10 offsuit, river king lmao. Efialtis shoved all in and obviously is called and out.

I am not complaining about how the villian played the hand, I'm just saying what the heck was the guy doing in the hand with K10 after the flop? And how the heck am I not raping a player like that?