[2014-02-06] Now official: using Bitcoins is completely illegal in Russia - page 3.

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Quote from: manfred on February 08, 2014, 07:40:06 AM

Quote from: EskimoBob on February 08, 2014, 06:10:20 AM

Some of you say it's banned, some of you say it is not.
Do any of you have a link to reliable source to clear this up?

BTW, how is this going to affect http://btc-e.com operations? If I recall, they are operating form Ukraine.

One more thing, China did not ban BTC. Only bank/fin institutions can not invest or trade BTC and for the rest, they can do what ever they want but have no protection from their gov. if get ripped off or lose their coin.

BTC-e does not operate from Ukraine. Its servers are in Bulgaria and it is Cyprus registered so Cyprus jurisdiction (EU) applys. Anyone signing up to them and bothers reading the terms and conditions they agree on and not just click the button know this.

ah btc-e is a smart setup company , Knowing the rules .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4o13isDdfY explains the rules , and especialy the loopholes.....

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Quote from: EskimoBob on February 08, 2014, 06:10:20 AM

Some of you say it's banned, some of you say it is not.
Do any of you have a link to reliable source to clear this up?

BTW, how is this going to affect http://btc-e.com operations? If I recall, they are operating form Ukraine.

One more thing, China did not ban BTC. Only bank/fin institutions can not invest or trade BTC and for the rest, they can do what ever they want but have no protection from their gov. if get ripped off or lose their coin.

BTC-e does not operate from Ukraine. Its servers are in Bulgaria and it is Cyprus registered so Cyprus jurisdiction (EU) applys. Anyone signing up to them and bothers reading the terms and conditions they agree on and not just click the button know this.

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Some of you say it's banned, some of you say it is not.
Do any of you have a link to reliable source to clear this up?

BTW, how is this going to affect http://btc-e.com operations? If I recall, they are operating form Ukraine.

One more thing, China did not ban BTC. Only bank/fin institutions can not invest or trade BTC and for the rest, they can do what ever they want but have no protection from their gov. if get ripped off or lose their coin.

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Quote from: Last1212 on February 07, 2014, 02:19:37 PM

Quote from: jadagles on February 07, 2014, 01:58:32 PM

Quote from: Last1212 on February 07, 2014, 10:32:12 AM

Quote from: jadagles on February 07, 2014, 09:28:52 AM

Quote from: Last1212 on February 07, 2014, 07:52:00 AM

Quote from: Nemo1024 on February 07, 2014, 05:22:07 AM

Quote from: TooCasual on February 06, 2014, 06:07:13 PM

Poor Russians... Their government is saying "WE ARE STAYING IN THE DARK AGES"

They didn't go back to communism when I wasn't looking did they?

Weird.

TC.

No, they went to "religionism", which is even worse than communism. The church has got an enormous amount of power and the people are plunged into the brainwashed real dark age.

Lol, your mass media washed your brains. All info you get from mass media about Russia - lie.

Please explain, I'm very interested. As far as I know, Putin is using the church as a tool for ruling the country. Sadly this type of secularization will end in hatred of people over the church and not on the power, thus breaking the spirit of the country.

Any prooflink about Putin usage of church?

You need to study, read some books to understand these things. Read sociology and philosophy on this topic, faith and secularism. Also you need to see what types are there etc. and relate this with the social environment in Russia and on what foundations is built.

You need proofs before saying smth... No one will believe your words without facts and there are no facts now. You don't know anything about Russia, but you tries to look smart in related aspects.

A person who needs a picture for an explanation of recent times history, philosophy and sociology clearly does not need anything else than a shallow understanding of reality. Things cannot be grasped in 10 pages let alone 1 image of it, thus there is the question how can you be satisfied? Better take my word for it, or if not, then start reading.

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In russie there is a saying..

You say that you pay us , So we say that we work!

So basicly you say we can not use bitcoins , so we dont use them , we let our computers do the payment.
or we exchange them outside russia for goods , or we accept them but ask price in rubble , russians are very creative look at the art of the olympic game and evenb the 2014 has a dubble meaning , in cryllic is also writes sotci... and 2014 at the same time!

Russians have a nice way of sayng things.

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Quote from: jadagles on February 07, 2014, 01:58:32 PM

Quote from: Last1212 on February 07, 2014, 10:32:12 AM

Quote from: jadagles on February 07, 2014, 09:28:52 AM

Quote from: Last1212 on February 07, 2014, 07:52:00 AM

Quote from: Nemo1024 on February 07, 2014, 05:22:07 AM

Quote from: TooCasual on February 06, 2014, 06:07:13 PM

Poor Russians... Their government is saying "WE ARE STAYING IN THE DARK AGES"

They didn't go back to communism when I wasn't looking did they?

Weird.

TC.

No, they went to "religionism", which is even worse than communism. The church has got an enormous amount of power and the people are plunged into the brainwashed real dark age.

Lol, your mass media washed your brains. All info you get from mass media about Russia - lie.

Please explain, I'm very interested. As far as I know, Putin is using the church as a tool for ruling the country. Sadly this type of secularization will end in hatred of people over the church and not on the power, thus breaking the spirit of the country.

Any prooflink about Putin usage of church?

You need to study, read some books to understand these things. Read sociology and philosophy on this topic, faith and secularism. Also you need to see what types are there etc. and relate this with the social environment in Russia and on what foundations is built.

You need proofs before saying smth... No one will believe your words without facts and there are no facts now. You don't know anything about Russia, but you tries to look smart in related aspects.

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Quote from: Last1212 on February 07, 2014, 10:32:12 AM

Quote from: jadagles on February 07, 2014, 09:28:52 AM

Quote from: Last1212 on February 07, 2014, 07:52:00 AM

Quote from: Nemo1024 on February 07, 2014, 05:22:07 AM

Quote from: TooCasual on February 06, 2014, 06:07:13 PM

Poor Russians... Their government is saying "WE ARE STAYING IN THE DARK AGES"

They didn't go back to communism when I wasn't looking did they?

Weird.

TC.

No, they went to "religionism", which is even worse than communism. The church has got an enormous amount of power and the people are plunged into the brainwashed real dark age.

Lol, your mass media washed your brains. All info you get from mass media about Russia - lie.

Please explain, I'm very interested. As far as I know, Putin is using the church as a tool for ruling the country. Sadly this type of secularization will end in hatred of people over the church and not on the power, thus breaking the spirit of the country.

Any prooflink about Putin usage of church?

You need to study, read some books to understand these things. Read sociology and philosophy on this topic, faith and secularism. Also you need to see what types are there etc. and relate this with the social environment in Russia and on what foundations is built.

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Quote from: Last1212 on February 07, 2014, 10:32:12 AM

Quote from: jadagles on February 07, 2014, 09:28:52 AM

Quote from: Last1212 on February 07, 2014, 07:52:00 AM

Quote from: Nemo1024 on February 07, 2014, 05:22:07 AM

Quote from: TooCasual on February 06, 2014, 06:07:13 PM

Poor Russians... Their government is saying "WE ARE STAYING IN THE DARK AGES"

They didn't go back to communism when I wasn't looking did they?

Weird.

TC.

No, they went to "religionism", which is even worse than communism. The church has got an enormous amount of power and the people are plunged into the brainwashed real dark age.

Lol, your mass media washed your brains. All info you get from mass media about Russia - lie.

Please explain, I'm very interested. As far as I know, Putin is using the church as a tool for ruling the country. Sadly this type of secularization will end in hatred of people over the church and not on the power, thus breaking the spirit of the country.

Any prooflink about Putin usage of church?

I dont get it at all.

Putin seems to be a nice and inteligent guy.
He should invest into bitcoin on his own!

Or maybe!! it his his plan to dump price Cheesy

hehehe

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Quote from: jadagles on February 07, 2014, 09:28:52 AM

Quote from: Last1212 on February 07, 2014, 07:52:00 AM

Quote from: Nemo1024 on February 07, 2014, 05:22:07 AM

Quote from: TooCasual on February 06, 2014, 06:07:13 PM

Poor Russians... Their government is saying "WE ARE STAYING IN THE DARK AGES"

They didn't go back to communism when I wasn't looking did they?

Weird.

TC.

No, they went to "religionism", which is even worse than communism. The church has got an enormous amount of power and the people are plunged into the brainwashed real dark age.

Lol, your mass media washed your brains. All info you get from mass media about Russia - lie.

Please explain, I'm very interested. As far as I know, Putin is using the church as a tool for ruling the country. Sadly this type of secularization will end in hatred of people over the church and not on the power, thus breaking the spirit of the country.

Any prooflink about Putin usage of church?

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It's not illegal to have/trade bitcoins in russia, if it completely banned webmoney should have posted some kind of announcement.

http://wmx.webmoney.ru/

The only change I see there is..
Attention! The minimum required passport level for performing top-ups and withdrawals is a formal passport that passed a data verification procedure.

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i'm sure many prostitutes in Russia (high end escort service for foreign VIPs) would love to accept btc for their services, it would only bringing many clients around the world.

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Bitcoin is a truly one world currency, Russia is seeing the western world adopt it very quick and may be rejecting it only for the sake of rivalry against the occident.

Russia is not a country
Russia is a state of mind.

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Quote from: Last1212 on February 07, 2014, 07:52:00 AM

Quote from: Nemo1024 on February 07, 2014, 05:22:07 AM

Quote from: TooCasual on February 06, 2014, 06:07:13 PM

Poor Russians... Their government is saying "WE ARE STAYING IN THE DARK AGES"

They didn't go back to communism when I wasn't looking did they?

Weird.

TC.

No, they went to "religionism", which is even worse than communism. The church has got an enormous amount of power and the people are plunged into the brainwashed real dark age.

Lol, your mass media washed your brains. All info you get from mass media about Russia - lie.

Please explain, I'm very interested. As far as I know, Putin is using the church as a tool for ruling the country. Sadly this type of secularization will end in hatred of people over the church and not on the power, thus breaking the spirit of the country.

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Quote from: Nemo1024 on February 07, 2014, 05:22:07 AM

Quote from: TooCasual on February 06, 2014, 06:07:13 PM

Poor Russians... Their government is saying "WE ARE STAYING IN THE DARK AGES"

They didn't go back to communism when I wasn't looking did they?

Weird.

TC.

No, they went to "religionism", which is even worse than communism. The church has got an enormous amount of power and the people are plunged into the brainwashed real dark age.

Lol, your mass media washed your brains. All info you get from mass media about Russia - lie.

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Quote from: TooCasual on February 06, 2014, 06:07:13 PM

Poor Russians... Their government is saying "WE ARE STAYING IN THE DARK AGES"

They didn't go back to communism when I wasn't looking did they?

Weird.

TC.

No, they went to "religionism", which is even worse than communism. The church has got an enormous amount of power and the people are plunged into the brainwashed real dark age.

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Quote from: ShawnLeary on February 06, 2014, 11:45:23 PM

Quote from: TooCasual on February 06, 2014, 06:07:13 PM

Poor Russians... Their government is saying "WE ARE STAYING IN THE DARK AGES"

They didn't go back to communism when I wasn't looking did they?

Weird.

TC.

They never left it

Indeed. The Russian communists are still in charge and they have a history of charming gullible Westerners into investing there - only to disappropriate them later. Should this news be real, it should be a warning sign for all foreign investors in Russia that another cycle of openness->investment->disappropriation is coming to an end.

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There are no official statements in Russia about Bitcoin prohibition. All this news - "yellow" press. Nowadays there are discussions about that question but - no official prohibition for individuals.

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Considering how widely known the Russian government is corrupt and ran by multiple mob families who are only concerned about their initiatives... I am not surprised or bothered. Bitcoin is much stronger than this.

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Quote from: Arvicco on February 06, 2014, 11:53:03 PM

However, Russian police is not very concerned about following the letter of the law. They routinely miraculously find "just enough crack to put in jail" while searching any person those in power don't like.

On the other hand, if you are on the right side of this corrupt system, just go ahead and use bitcoins.

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