2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? - page 4.

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Quote from: bluefirecorp_ on November 04, 2018, 07:35:29 PM

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Will you renounce your statement when Beto crushes Cruz in the election, or is this your same 'left wing false flag op' belief as before? Will you actually accept reality once the event is past? Or will you just yell 'cheater!!!'?

We shall see how Beto boy makes out.

You know he's Irish, and about to be worth 20Billion, right?

Your friends in the media aren't talking about that, are they?

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on November 04, 2018, 06:51:37 PM

...Beto is a rock star in Texas right now LOL he's the kind of populous candidate that just might be able to hand Cruz his ass!

Beto's rallies are reportedly huge I think this is maybe the most interesting Senate race this year.

You know, I might have more respect for your opinions on US politics if you had the slightest fucking clue what you were talking about. Beto is a clear loser, not even a debate over it.

Beto has a charismatic approach. The the fat old white guys in the back room that run the US Dems shelled out > 20 million to push him against Cruz.

He's a good little puppet so I expect them to keep playing him.

And of course everyone's going to overlook his fucked up past. Because, shut up.

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Quote from: bluefirecorp_ on November 04, 2018, 07:35:29 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on November 04, 2018, 07:16:10 PM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on November 04, 2018, 06:51:37 PM

Poor lying Ted, he lost to Trump and Trump damaged him. Even though Cruz has been cupping Trumps balls pretty hard for the MT's he's in fight that should have been a walk in the park.

Beto is a rock star in Texas right now LOL he's the kind of populous candidate that just might be able to hand Cruz his ass!

Beto's rallies are reportedly huge I think this is maybe the most interesting Senate race this year.

You know, I might have more respect for your opinions on US politics if you had the slightest fucking clue what you were talking about. Beto is a clear loser, not even a debate over it.

Will you renounce your statement when Beto crushes Cruz in the election, or is this your same 'left wing false flag op' belief as before? Will you actually accept reality once the event is past? Or will you just yell 'cheater!!!'?

Not a chance before, especially not now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCG_JckSF8

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Quote from: TECSHARE on November 04, 2018, 07:16:10 PM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on November 04, 2018, 06:51:37 PM

Poor lying Ted, he lost to Trump and Trump damaged him. Even though Cruz has been cupping Trumps balls pretty hard for the MT's he's in fight that should have been a walk in the park.

Beto is a rock star in Texas right now LOL he's the kind of populous candidate that just might be able to hand Cruz his ass!

Beto's rallies are reportedly huge I think this is maybe the most interesting Senate race this year.

You know, I might have more respect for your opinions on US politics if you had the slightest fucking clue what you were talking about. Beto is a clear loser, not even a debate over it.

Will you renounce your statement when Beto crushes Cruz in the election, or is this your same 'left wing false flag op' belief as before? Will you actually accept reality once the event is past? Or will you just yell 'cheater!!!'?

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on November 04, 2018, 06:51:37 PM

Poor lying Ted, he lost to Trump and Trump damaged him. Even though Cruz has been cupping Trumps balls pretty hard for the MT's he's in fight that should have been a walk in the park.

Beto is a rock star in Texas right now LOL he's the kind of populous candidate that just might be able to hand Cruz his ass!

Beto's rallies are reportedly huge I think this is maybe the most interesting Senate race this year.

You know, I might have more respect for your opinions on US politics if you had the slightest fucking clue what you were talking about. Beto is a clear loser, not even a debate over it.

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Poor lying Ted, he lost to Trump and Trump damaged him. Even though Cruz has been cupping Trumps balls pretty hard for the MT's he's in fight that should have been a walk in the park.

Beto is a rock star in Texas right now LOL he's the kind of populous candidate that just might be able to hand Cruz his ass!

Beto's rallies are reportedly huge I think this is maybe the most interesting Senate race this year.

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on November 03, 2018, 05:06:23 PM

...I could have revised my prediction down but since Trump has gone full retard in the last few days I think that would be a silly guess.

Perhaps you could tell us exactly how it will end since I am so stupid for making my guess.

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Darn he's bitch slapped you guys yet agin!

Going full retard to get all those low IQ voters riled up and going to vote!

Look at those deplorables! They poring out of all their holes in the ground and looking for cheap beer and voting booths!

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Quote from: TECSHARE on November 03, 2018, 01:49:23 PM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on November 03, 2018, 12:10:34 PM

Blue tsunami in 3 days!! Dems are gonna pick up 40 seats in the house haha!

Its 40 seats now? You wouldn't even take a bet for 35 seats.... you are either extremely delusional or don't believe what you are saying and just hypebeasting desperately hoping it will help xD

Hey twat I can not predict something that hasn't happened yet. I know that the right has the ability to predict the future but since the left hasn't achieved this higher level of being I am left to make some guesses like the rest of the mere mortals here!

Unlike you I can change my prediction based on new information. Only a simpleton looks at new data and say my old prediction is always correct. It happens in this case I think its more likely they will gain more seats, I could have revised my prediction down but since Trump has gone full retard in the last few days I think that would be a silly guess.

Perhaps you could tell us exactly how it will end since I am so stupid for making my guess.

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If the democrats don't take back the house, I am going to take efforts to persuade my partner to stop watching CNN, MSNBC and all of the political talk shows on Sunday morning. (I will probably fail.) I'm absolutely sick of these news outlets using polls to show a "win" is around the corner, and then the only polls that really matter (the vote) does the exact opposite. Quite frankly, I think a consultation with a magic eight ball is more reliable than these polls the mass media uses.

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on November 03, 2018, 12:10:34 PM

Blue tsunami in 3 days!! Dems are gonna pick up 40 seats in the house haha!

Its 40 seats now? You wouldn't even take a bet for 35 seats.... you are either extremely delusional or don't believe what you are saying and just hypebeasting desperately hoping it will help xD

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Blue tsunami in 3 days!! Dems are gonna pick up 40 seats in the house haha!

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 28, 2018, 04:14:53 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on October 28, 2018, 03:44:45 PM

Suffice to say that if, for example, pharmaceutical companies were an extremely powerful lobby in the halls of power of a country, one could expect any law passed which dished out money to really, really favor them. That's the case in the USA, but not in many other countries in which that lobby is not such a force.

Ya most democratic countries have figured out allowing politicians to be bought publicly is a bit of a problem LOL.

So what your saying is that the lobby groups have to much power because they already bought BOTH political parties?? ....
I wonder when the American citizens will figure this out and take all their assault rifles to congress ...

lol....

Yes it is both parties down here.

It's really a bit funny but that's how Trump got voted in, and that's why the Republicans hated him as much as the Democrats did (still do).

I used the example of "big Pharma" but it's far more pervasive than that. It's not just health care, but that was the subject of discussion.

And yea, that's why we need a 2nd Amendment right. Kind of weird and crazy and true all at the same time.

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Quote from: Spendulus on October 28, 2018, 03:44:45 PM

Suffice to say that if, for example, pharmaceutical companies were an extremely powerful lobby in the halls of power of a country, one could expect any law passed which dished out money to really, really favor them. That's the case in the USA, but not in many other countries in which that lobby is not such a force.

Ya most democratic countries have figured out allowing politicians to be bought publicly is a bit of a problem LOL.

So what your saying is that the lobby groups have to much power because they already bought BOTH political parties?? You mean politicians might make decisions that favour their corporate donors over their constituents? Some countries consider this legalized public bribery and have a lot of laws to make sure politicians aren't publicly bought off LOL.

I wonder when the American citizens will figure this out and take all their assault rifles to congress and demand the corrupt government be made to actually work for them instead of against them...

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Quote from: Spendulus on October 28, 2018, 02:45:43 PM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 27, 2018, 08:34:46 PM

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Turns out when people have healthcare they end up liking it, kind of unbelievable but somehow it's true!

Ain't all that free shit nice?

There is also that free wall. Must feel nice.

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 28, 2018, 03:35:22 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on October 28, 2018, 02:45:43 PM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 27, 2018, 08:34:46 PM

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Turns out when people have healthcare they end up liking it, kind of unbelievable but somehow it's true!

Ain't all that free shit nice?

huh I guess the American citizens covered by the ACA never pay taxes... Do you like all those free roads you use or any other litany of services the government provides for "free".

Your knowledge of the current state of ACA is one of blissful ignorance, but then I recall once having an in depth discussion with a Canadian doc about the socialized medicine in Canada, and realized I didn't know anything about it. Suffice to say that if, for example, pharmaceutical companies were an extremely powerful lobby in the halls of power of a country, one could expect any law passed which dished out money to really, really favor them. That's the case in the USA, but not in many other countries in which that lobby is not such a force.

It should then be easy to understand (But I find it hard to forget the depths of stupid) that what works in one country may be predicted accurately to be a total fail in another.

Fortunately, though, you don't have to know any of the details. The lying liars will tell you what to think and believe, and what to repeat, and you can just follow their lead.

Or not.

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Quote from: Spendulus on October 28, 2018, 02:45:43 PM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 27, 2018, 08:34:46 PM

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Turns out when people have healthcare they end up liking it, kind of unbelievable but somehow it's true!

Ain't all that free shit nice?

huh I guess the American citizens covered by the ACA never pay taxes... Do you like all those free roads you use or any other litany of services the government provides for "free".

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 27, 2018, 08:34:46 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on October 27, 2018, 08:20:53 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on October 27, 2018, 05:36:55 PM

I never said our current healthcare system was perfect. However if you can afford it, its great. As stated, in its current form it is incredibly inefficient. The problem though is this country has been implementing Socialist type policies for some time now, along with all kinds of red tape and excessive regulations that make things SO DIFFICULT for doctors, they are just quitting in droves. BTW, this was well underway while Obama was still in office, so no knee jerk "MORE PROOF ORANGEMAN BAD" here please.

The policies you are advocating are the cause of the issues, not the solution.

And those who can't afford it?

Market is not going to solve the issues. If that was possible we wouldn't be spending 18% of GDP on healthcare for 90% of the population while other countries cover 100% with half that. We can continue arguing about it for 50 more years but eventually "socialist" policies - such as tax-funded full coverage and price controls - will be implemented.

The majority of Americans were against the ACA (which is hardly socialist) but now that they have had it for a few years the majority of Americans love it... Americans love it SO MUCH that the Republicans are now campaigning on keeping it while filing a lawsuit to repeal it LOL.

Turns out when people have healthcare they end up liking it, kind of unbelievable but somehow it's true!

I don't understand the American obsession with communism and socialism (no, they are not one and the same). It is almost like seeing ghosts. They hardly exist anymore. The wellfare or social state systems are not the same as socialism. And not even the wellfare state is required to be able to have afordable health care. This is 2018.

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 27, 2018, 08:34:46 PM

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Turns out when people have healthcare they end up liking it, kind of unbelievable but somehow it's true!

Ain't all that free shit nice?

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Quote from: suchmoon on October 27, 2018, 08:20:53 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on October 27, 2018, 05:36:55 PM

I never said our current healthcare system was perfect. However if you can afford it, its great. As stated, in its current form it is incredibly inefficient. The problem though is this country has been implementing Socialist type policies for some time now, along with all kinds of red tape and excessive regulations that make things SO DIFFICULT for doctors, they are just quitting in droves. BTW, this was well underway while Obama was still in office, so no knee jerk "MORE PROOF ORANGEMAN BAD" here please.

The policies you are advocating are the cause of the issues, not the solution.

And those who can't afford it?

Market is not going to solve the issues. If that was possible we wouldn't be spending 18% of GDP on healthcare for 90% of the population while other countries cover 100% with half that. We can continue arguing about it for 50 more years but eventually "socialist" policies - such as tax-funded full coverage and price controls - will be implemented.

The majority of Americans were against the ACA (which is hardly socialist) but now that they have had it for a few years the majority of Americans love it... Americans love it SO MUCH that the Republicans are now campaigning on keeping it while filing a lawsuit to repeal it LOL.

Turns out when people have healthcare they end up liking it, kind of unbelievable but somehow it's true!

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Quote from: TECSHARE on October 27, 2018, 05:36:55 PM

I never said our current healthcare system was perfect. However if you can afford it, its great. As stated, in its current form it is incredibly inefficient. The problem though is this country has been implementing Socialist type policies for some time now, along with all kinds of red tape and excessive regulations that make things SO DIFFICULT for doctors, they are just quitting in droves. BTW, this was well underway while Obama was still in office, so no knee jerk "MORE PROOF ORANGEMAN BAD" here please.

The policies you are advocating are the cause of the issues, not the solution.

And those who can't afford it?

Market is not going to solve the issues. If that was possible we wouldn't be spending 18% of GDP on healthcare for 90% of the population while other countries cover 100% with half that. We can continue arguing about it for 50 more years but eventually "socialist" policies - such as tax-funded full coverage and price controls - will be implemented.

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I never said our current healthcare system was perfect. However if you can afford it, its great. As stated, in its current form it is incredibly inefficient. The problem though is this country has been implementing Socialist type policies for some time now, along with all kinds of red tape and excessive regulations that make things SO DIFFICULT for doctors, they are just quitting in droves. BTW, this was well underway while Obama was still in office, so no knee jerk "MORE PROOF ORANGEMAN BAD" here please.

The policies you are advocating are the cause of the issues, not the solution.

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