2019 Cricket World Cup - Discussion & Analysis - page 9.

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Quote from: Tipstar on July 03, 2019, 10:16:45 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 03, 2019, 09:03:24 PM

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England won the match and now it's pretty much over for Pakistan as it's almost impossible to attain these margins against Bangladesh:

It is impossible to attain these margins against any team in the world. The current record is 290 runs.

As of now, we know which are the teams who will play in the semi-finals. But the fixtures are still not finalized. If South Africa beats Australia, then India can finish at the no.1 position (provided that they beat Sri Lanka) and may face New Zealand for the first semi final. If there are no upsets, then Australia will finish at no.1 and may face New Zealand. England and New Zealand have no more matches remaining and therefore the no.3 and no.4 positions in the table are not going to change.

That would be the probable case. Australia beating Sri Lanka and playing with New Zealand in the semis.
Australia always has been a better team when playing with New Zealand and they'd easily win the match to go to the finals.
And on India vs England, England is in a better mood and they have defeated India just a few days ago and they'll easily repeat that.

How confidently you said that England will repeat again Against India so easily? Yes, England is now very stronger mood and Can win the match again. But it will not so easy I think. Because the opponent is India. India also try their best to win the match for going Final.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 03, 2019, 09:03:24 PM

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England won the match and now it's pretty much over for Pakistan as it's almost impossible to attain these margins against Bangladesh:

It is impossible to attain these margins against any team in the world. The current record is 290 runs.

As of now, we know which are the teams who will play in the semi-finals. But the fixtures are still not finalized. If South Africa beats Australia, then India can finish at the no.1 position (provided that they beat Sri Lanka) and may face New Zealand for the first semi final. If there are no upsets, then Australia will finish at no.1 and may face New Zealand. England and New Zealand have no more matches remaining and therefore the no.3 and no.4 positions in the table are not going to change.

That would be the probable case. Australia beating Sri Lanka and playing with New Zealand in the semis.
Australia always has been a better team when playing with New Zealand and they'd easily win the match to go to the finals.
And on India vs England, England is in a better mood and they have defeated India just a few days ago and they'll easily repeat that.

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England won the match and now it's pretty much over for Pakistan as it's almost impossible to attain these margins against Bangladesh:

It is impossible to attain these margins against any team in the world. The current record is 290 runs.

As of now, we know which are the teams who will play in the semi-finals. But the fixtures are still not finalized. If South Africa beats Australia, then India can finish at the no.1 position (provided that they beat Sri Lanka) and may face New Zealand for the first semi final. If there are no upsets, then Australia will finish at no.1 and may face New Zealand. England and New Zealand have no more matches remaining and therefore the no.3 and no.4 positions in the table are not going to change.

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Quote from: akamit on July 02, 2019, 03:41:24 PM

Well, the race for Bangladeshi Tigers is over. Now the race is between Pakistan & England only, and tomorrow's match will decide the winner.
England need to lose in the match against New Zealand otherwise there is no chance for Pakistan - What do you think guys New Zealand can defeat England?

It will be a nail-biting match tomorrow. Hope to see a good match, not a fixed one.

England won! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Can Pakistan still make it? Hmmmm

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Don't worry about the calculations for Pakistan as I believe that Bangladesh will win the match anyway and end their World Cup campaign with a win and overall somewhat of a success as they can finish 5th which most wouldn't expect them to do when the World Cup started as most had SA, Pakistan and WI up there so if Bangladesh can win it would be a successful World Cup campaign and something they can work towards in the coming years to go one better and make the finals.

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England won the match and now it's pretty much over for Pakistan as it's almost impossible to attain these margins against Bangladesh:

Anyhow England has made its position confirmed for the semi finals. The entire game changer is the previous match against India. If the match was played perfectly the next match between Pakistan and Bangladesh would have been very interesting as Pakistan need to win to make its way to Semi Finals.

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With England Striking early, this could be the end of any hope for Pakistan to reach the semi finals. Undoubtedly England is a better team than Pakistan and they deserves this spot.
With every team losing at least one game and interesting win loss combinations, semi finals are going to be equally exciting this time.

NZ played the worst cricket in this WC in this match. They lost the match by 119 runs and now this gives chance to Pakistan to enter the semis but they have to beat Bangladesh by very big margin and this may be little impossible but never know as things are changing in this WC.

NZ is through the semi-finals. Pakistan has no realistic chance of qualifying now. The difference between the NRR is too large (-0.966) to be compensated in one match. That said, I don't know what happened with New Zealand. During the initial phases, they were dominating the points table. Their sudden disintegration is a bit worrying.

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Looks like Aus is playing with NZ and looking at NZ's performance in these recent matches, Aus will be the first finalist. I am scared for India as they just lost with Eng and they will face them once again.

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Quote from: Nalbo on July 03, 2019, 09:29:57 AM

With England Striking early, this could be the end of any hope for Pakistan to reach the semi finals. Undoubtedly England is a better team than Pakistan and they deserves this spot.
With every team losing at least one game and interesting win loss combinations, semi finals are going to be equally exciting this time.

NZ played the worst cricket in this WC in this match. They lost the match by 119 runs and now this gives chance to Pakistan to enter the semis but they have to beat Bangladesh by very big margin and this may be little impossible but never know as things are changing in this WC.

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With England Striking early, this could be the end of any hope for Pakistan to reach the semi finals. Undoubtedly England is a better team than Pakistan and they deserves this spot.
With every team losing at least one game and interesting win loss combinations, semi finals are going to be equally exciting this time.

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Quote from: tsaroz on July 03, 2019, 06:50:37 AM

The sad thing is Bangladesh always plays a good cricket but never wins. Every of their matches in this world cup were competitive but they barely won some of them.
Bangla team has everything but they lacks a wining mentality. They seem to be in pressure when they play with a team with big names.

There is a slight correction here, the Bangladesh openers are not giving them a good start in this tournament and the only player in form is Shakib Al Hasan and he is doing a good job with ball and bat and other than that you do not see any consistent performers in the team and you need to take your catches if you need to win matches, even in yesterdays match against India they have spilled many chances and you cannot win a game if you are not able to take those chances. Batting is still their weak point and if they find a good player then things will change for them.

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Congratulations for Bangladesh... although they couldn't qualify, they put up a very spirited performance. Bangladesh is one team that is on an upward trajectory, when compared to teams such as Sri Lanka and South Africa, which are going down. All the best for the next world cup in 2023!! Today the situation will be clear, after the results of the ENG vs NZ match.

They really played well and kept the game on till the last over. though the target was little more for them but never gave up and kept on fighting till whatever they can make and lose the match from India with minimum number of runs. Sakib Al Hasan would missed the team not going through as he is Man of the tournament till now.

India well deserved to win since they made a fantastic start with Rohit Sharma and later on end with a brilliant bowling display by Bumrah. As always Bangladesh has played some great cricket in the competition up until now and hope they continue it.

The sad thing is Bangladesh always plays a good cricket but never wins. Every of their matches in this world cup were competitive but they barely won some of them.
Bangla team has everything but they lacks a wining mentality. They seem to be in pressure when they play with a team with big names.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 02, 2019, 09:08:06 PM

Congratulations for Bangladesh... although they couldn't qualify, they put up a very spirited performance. Bangladesh is one team that is on an upward trajectory, when compared to teams such as Sri Lanka and South Africa, which are going down. All the best for the next world cup in 2023!! Today the situation will be clear, after the results of the ENG vs NZ match.

They really played well and kept the game on till the last over. though the target was little more for them but never gave up and kept on fighting till whatever they can make and lose the match from India with minimum number of runs. Sakib Al Hasan would missed the team not going through as he is Man of the tournament till now.

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Congratulations for Bangladesh... although they couldn't qualify, they put up a very spirited performance. Bangladesh is one team that is on an upward trajectory, when compared to teams such as Sri Lanka and South Africa, which are going down. All the best for the next world cup in 2023!! Today the situation will be clear, after the results of the ENG vs NZ match.

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As long as Liton Das and Shakib Al Hasan playing, we could expect anything from Bangladesh. They had have spectacular partnerships in the past. But if India is sucessful to get one of the wicket before 250 runs, it would be a win for India. Bangladesh is already out of the tournament and they have nothing to lose while India still needs to make sure about the semifinal spot.

Now India have full command on match as Bangladesh 173/5 with Shakib a;one cannot do any magic for them.

Even though Bengalis lost and are now out of the tournament, they throughout played the tournament extremely well. Especially the contributions of Shakib-Al-Hassan have remained tremendous, and I believe that he's one of the best all-rounder gems I've seen in recent years.

Oh well, the bottom line is that Bengalis are now out and India has now reached the semi-finals.

Bangladesh played good cricket throughout the world cup qualifiers. Though they're out of the world cup they gave a strong fight back to every team and no team made an easy win against them. When it comes to the contribution from Shakib-Al-Hassan performance, it is really big from an all rounder. Another thing though he doesn't get an opportunity to play two more games, I believe he'll be the one to receive the man of the series.

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Its a shame that Bangladesh will fall short of making the finals as I gave them a big chance to make it before the tournament started. They did well to stay in the match against India but no player couldn't go on and make that century that could of seen them win the match as the top order all go starts but couldn't go on with the job.

My thinking is that New Zealand will win against England which give Pakistan a chance but then Bangladesh win against Pakistan to keep them out of the semi-finals. My way of thinking is that the remaining matches need to mean something to the teams as if New Zealand win it also gives a slim chance for Sri Lanka to also make the semi-finals if they can beat India. Or England could win which then only gives Pakistan a chance at making the semi-finals however they will need to boost their NRR to jump New Zealand so there is a few ways this can play out so lets see what happens.

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Well, the race for Bangladeshi Tigers is over. Now the race is between Pakistan & England only, and tomorrow's match will decide the winner.
England need to lose in the match against New Zealand otherwise there is no chance for Pakistan - What do you think guys New Zealand can defeat England?

It will be a nail-biting match tomorrow. Hope to see a good match, not a fixed one.

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Quote from: tsaroz on July 02, 2019, 10:36:22 AM

As long as Liton Das and Shakib Al Hasan playing, we could expect anything from Bangladesh. They had have spectacular partnerships in the past. But if India is sucessful to get one of the wicket before 250 runs, it would be a win for India. Bangladesh is already out of the tournament and they have nothing to lose while India still needs to make sure about the semifinal spot.

Now India have full command on match as Bangladesh 173/5 with Shakib a;one cannot do any magic for them.

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As long as Liton Das and Shakib Al Hasan playing, we could expect anything from Bangladesh. They had have spectacular partnerships in the past. But if India is sucessful to get one of the wicket before 250 runs, it would be a win for India. Bangladesh is already out of the tournament and they have nothing to lose while India still needs to make sure about the semifinal spot.

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Quote from: erikalui on July 02, 2019, 03:40:57 AM

I hope India plays well today. There were talks that Virat may change one opener but since Vijay is out, I guess Rishab may be a choice and they also brought in Mayank Agarwal. Rahul may be pushed back to his earlier position.

Fortunately for India, the opening partnership clicked today. Both Rohit Sharma and KL Rahul batted well. The team management will be relieved to see a good performance from Rahul. After his century during the first match, his form was lackluster. That said I don't know why they included Dinesh Kartik in the playing XI. A much better choice would have been Mayank Agarwal.

BTW, here are all the scenarios for the semi-final spot:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27094787/how-england-win-affects-bangladesh-pakistan

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