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Quote from: tsaroz on July 03, 2019, 07:50:37 AM

The sad thing is Bangladesh always plays a good cricket but never wins. Every of their matches in this world cup were competitive but they barely won some of them.
Bangla team has everything but they lacks a wining mentality. They seem to be in pressure when they play with a team with big names.

There is a slight correction here, the Bangladesh openers are not giving them a good start in this tournament and the only player in form is Shakib Al Hasan and he is doing a good job with ball and bat and other than that you do not see any consistent performers in the team and you need to take your catches if you need to win matches, even in yesterdays match against India they have spilled many chances and you cannot win a game if you are not able to take those chances. Batting is still their weak point and if they find a good player then things will change for them.

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Congratulations for Bangladesh... although they couldn't qualify, they put up a very spirited performance. Bangladesh is one team that is on an upward trajectory, when compared to teams such as Sri Lanka and South Africa, which are going down. All the best for the next world cup in 2023!! Today the situation will be clear, after the results of the ENG vs NZ match.

They really played well and kept the game on till the last over. though the target was little more for them but never gave up and kept on fighting till whatever they can make and lose the match from India with minimum number of runs. Sakib Al Hasan would missed the team not going through as he is Man of the tournament till now.

India well deserved to win since they made a fantastic start with Rohit Sharma and later on end with a brilliant bowling display by Bumrah. As always Bangladesh has played some great cricket in the competition up until now and hope they continue it.

The sad thing is Bangladesh always plays a good cricket but never wins. Every of their matches in this world cup were competitive but they barely won some of them.
Bangla team has everything but they lacks a wining mentality. They seem to be in pressure when they play with a team with big names.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 02, 2019, 10:08:06 PM

Congratulations for Bangladesh... although they couldn't qualify, they put up a very spirited performance. Bangladesh is one team that is on an upward trajectory, when compared to teams such as Sri Lanka and South Africa, which are going down. All the best for the next world cup in 2023!! Today the situation will be clear, after the results of the ENG vs NZ match.

They really played well and kept the game on till the last over. though the target was little more for them but never gave up and kept on fighting till whatever they can make and lose the match from India with minimum number of runs. Sakib Al Hasan would missed the team not going through as he is Man of the tournament till now.

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Congratulations for Bangladesh... although they couldn't qualify, they put up a very spirited performance. Bangladesh is one team that is on an upward trajectory, when compared to teams such as Sri Lanka and South Africa, which are going down. All the best for the next world cup in 2023!! Today the situation will be clear, after the results of the ENG vs NZ match.

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Quote from: tsaroz on July 02, 2019, 11:36:22 AM

As long as Liton Das and Shakib Al Hasan playing, we could expect anything from Bangladesh. They had have spectacular partnerships in the past. But if India is sucessful to get one of the wicket before 250 runs, it would be a win for India. Bangladesh is already out of the tournament and they have nothing to lose while India still needs to make sure about the semifinal spot.

Now India have full command on match as Bangladesh 173/5 with Shakib a;one cannot do any magic for them.

Even though Bengalis lost and are now out of the tournament, they throughout played the tournament extremely well. Especially the contributions of Shakib-Al-Hassan have remained tremendous, and I believe that he's one of the best all-rounder gems I've seen in recent years.

Oh well, the bottom line is that Bengalis are now out and India has now reached the semi-finals.

Bangladesh played good cricket throughout the world cup qualifiers. Though they're out of the world cup they gave a strong fight back to every team and no team made an easy win against them. When it comes to the contribution from Shakib-Al-Hassan performance, it is really big from an all rounder. Another thing though he doesn't get an opportunity to play two more games, I believe he'll be the one to receive the man of the series.

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Its a shame that Bangladesh will fall short of making the finals as I gave them a big chance to make it before the tournament started. They did well to stay in the match against India but no player couldn't go on and make that century that could of seen them win the match as the top order all go starts but couldn't go on with the job.

My thinking is that New Zealand will win against England which give Pakistan a chance but then Bangladesh win against Pakistan to keep them out of the semi-finals. My way of thinking is that the remaining matches need to mean something to the teams as if New Zealand win it also gives a slim chance for Sri Lanka to also make the semi-finals if they can beat India. Or England could win which then only gives Pakistan a chance at making the semi-finals however they will need to boost their NRR to jump New Zealand so there is a few ways this can play out so lets see what happens.

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Well, the race for Bangladeshi Tigers is over. Now the race is between Pakistan & England only, and tomorrow's match will decide the winner.
England need to lose in the match against New Zealand otherwise there is no chance for Pakistan - What do you think guys New Zealand can defeat England?

It will be a nail-biting match tomorrow. Hope to see a good match, not a fixed one.

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Quote from: Indymoney on July 02, 2019, 12:11:30 PM

Quote from: tsaroz on July 02, 2019, 11:36:22 AM

As long as Liton Das and Shakib Al Hasan playing, we could expect anything from Bangladesh. They had have spectacular partnerships in the past. But if India is sucessful to get one of the wicket before 250 runs, it would be a win for India. Bangladesh is already out of the tournament and they have nothing to lose while India still needs to make sure about the semifinal spot.

Now India have full command on match as Bangladesh 173/5 with Shakib a;one cannot do any magic for them.

Even though Bengalis lost and are now out of the tournament, they throughout played the tournament extremely well. Especially the contributions of Shakib-Al-Hassan have remained tremendous, and I believe that he's one of the best all-rounder gems I've seen in recent years.

Oh well, the bottom line is that Bengalis are now out and India has now reached the semi-finals.

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Quote from: tsaroz on July 02, 2019, 11:36:22 AM

As long as Liton Das and Shakib Al Hasan playing, we could expect anything from Bangladesh. They had have spectacular partnerships in the past. But if India is sucessful to get one of the wicket before 250 runs, it would be a win for India. Bangladesh is already out of the tournament and they have nothing to lose while India still needs to make sure about the semifinal spot.

Now India have full command on match as Bangladesh 173/5 with Shakib a;one cannot do any magic for them.

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As long as Liton Das and Shakib Al Hasan playing, we could expect anything from Bangladesh. They had have spectacular partnerships in the past. But if India is sucessful to get one of the wicket before 250 runs, it would be a win for India. Bangladesh is already out of the tournament and they have nothing to lose while India still needs to make sure about the semifinal spot.

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Quote from: erikalui on July 02, 2019, 04:40:57 AM

I hope India plays well today. There were talks that Virat may change one opener but since Vijay is out, I guess Rishab may be a choice and they also brought in Mayank Agarwal. Rahul may be pushed back to his earlier position.

Fortunately for India, the opening partnership clicked today. Both Rohit Sharma and KL Rahul batted well. The team management will be relieved to see a good performance from Rahul. After his century during the first match, his form was lackluster. That said I don't know why they included Dinesh Kartik in the playing XI. A much better choice would have been Mayank Agarwal.

BTW, here are all the scenarios for the semi-final spot:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27094787/how-england-win-affects-bangladesh-pakistan

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I hope India plays well today. There were talks that Virat may change one opener but since Vijay is out, I guess Rishab may be a choice and they also brought in Mayank Agarwal. Rahul may be pushed back to his earlier position.

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Quote from: BetWala on July 01, 2019, 08:18:10 PM

I think it will be Australia vs New Zealand then England vs India at the semis

Nothing is confirmed as of now. Today we have India vs Bangladesh. In case Bangladesh manages to win (which is a very remote possibility), then they can keep their semi-final hopes alive. Pakistan is also having an outside chance, they need to beat Bangladesh and then England should lose to New Zealand. But as the things stand, your prediction looks like the most probable one.

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I think it will be Australia vs New Zealand then England vs India at the semis

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It was fixed 100%, the ones who think other wise really need to look at the match again. Remember one thing players train almost daily so they know what they are doing, batsman can easily go out and bowlers can easily bowl balls in the right spots for batsman to score the runs, fielders can drop easy catches, the list goes on lol. How many easy catches do we see and say how did they drop that, well because they train they can make it look good just like acting. People really need to start waking up to fixed sports and just so everyone knows I'm not an Indian cricket fan as I'm an Australian fan but I could clearly see that something shady was going on in the match.

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Quote from: AjithBtc on July 01, 2019, 05:20:19 PM

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In 1992 : India Lost to England , then England lost to NZ and rest is history. Wink

so buckle up and pray for Kiwis now Cheesy

Pakistan-Bangladesh's hopes are still alive in the World Cup. Who knows both teams could win their remaining matches with significant margin and England-India could lose their next games, everything is possible in cricket.

Bottom line is England played better cricket than India. Indian middle order failed miserably in this match, so they lost. India's hope was alive when Hardik Pandya was batting, and it's not the first time when our middle order failed, or Dhoni started slow. It happened many times, and every regular in cricketing thread knows that this topic has been discussed here countless times, its package deal for India. Usually, failure of middle-order hurts India, but the first time in history its hurting other teams as well because 4th Semifinalist spot is at stake here.

So I can understand the frustration but calling for Match fixing or losing match deliberately theories Nah..... it's effortless to shout " Match Fixing" or "Blame others" when things are not going on our way. If match-fixing and money is the case in the World Cup, then ICC will opt for India vs Pakistan final not Australia vs England, Period!! You guys should know about that, what kind of money comes in the market when India and Pakistan play against each other. Just Give some credit to English bowlers that they bowled brilliantly on a flat pitch against the Indians.

Hmmm... do you have anything else to add if I tell you that I'm still not convinced and I still believe that India lost it on purpose? Cheesy

I have some thoughts to add up to this. If it wasn't fixed then the English bowlers who has to be credited could've taken all the wickets. Another thing every player of India can never be pin pointed that they didn't perform well as they maintained good strike rate. The important thing that need to be noticed is the game plan and the way they took it forward without hitting big when the player was supposed, makes it a confirmed game fixed for the winning of England.

The world is talking about this - no way to hide from millions of eyes. Those who watched the match can easily notice the game is fixed. I just saw the last 4 overs and I felt that something is wrong.

Anyways, this is not good for CRICKET, it is a gentleman game.

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Quote from: Raja_MBZ on July 01, 2019, 01:51:24 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on July 01, 2019, 01:16:58 AM

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In 1992 : India Lost to England , then England lost to NZ and rest is history. Wink

so buckle up and pray for Kiwis now Cheesy

Pakistan-Bangladesh's hopes are still alive in the World Cup. Who knows both teams could win their remaining matches with significant margin and England-India could lose their next games, everything is possible in cricket.

Bottom line is England played better cricket than India. Indian middle order failed miserably in this match, so they lost. India's hope was alive when Hardik Pandya was batting, and it's not the first time when our middle order failed, or Dhoni started slow. It happened many times, and every regular in cricketing thread knows that this topic has been discussed here countless times, its package deal for India. Usually, failure of middle-order hurts India, but the first time in history its hurting other teams as well because 4th Semifinalist spot is at stake here.

So I can understand the frustration but calling for Match fixing or losing match deliberately theories Nah..... it's effortless to shout " Match Fixing" or "Blame others" when things are not going on our way. If match-fixing and money is the case in the World Cup, then ICC will opt for India vs Pakistan final not Australia vs England, Period!! You guys should know about that, what kind of money comes in the market when India and Pakistan play against each other. Just Give some credit to English bowlers that they bowled brilliantly on a flat pitch against the Indians.

Hmmm... do you have anything else to add if I tell you that I'm still not convinced and I still believe that India lost it on purpose? Cheesy

I have some thoughts to add up to this. If it wasn't fixed then the English bowlers who has to be credited could've taken all the wickets. Another thing every player of India can never be pin pointed that they didn't perform well as they maintained good strike rate. The important thing that need to be noticed is the game plan and the way they took it forward without hitting big when the player was supposed, makes it a confirmed game fixed for the winning of England.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 01, 2019, 01:16:58 AM

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In 1992 : India Lost to England , then England lost to NZ and rest is history. Wink

so buckle up and pray for Kiwis now Cheesy

Pakistan-Bangladesh's hopes are still alive in the World Cup. Who knows both teams could win their remaining matches with significant margin and England-India could lose their next games, everything is possible in cricket.

Bottom line is England played better cricket than India. Indian middle order failed miserably in this match, so they lost. India's hope was alive when Hardik Pandya was batting, and it's not the first time when our middle order failed, or Dhoni started slow. It happened many times, and every regular in cricketing thread knows that this topic has been discussed here countless times, its package deal for India. Usually, failure of middle-order hurts India, but the first time in history its hurting other teams as well because 4th Semifinalist spot is at stake here.

So I can understand the frustration but calling for Match fixing or losing match deliberately theories Nah..... it's effortless to shout " Match Fixing" or "Blame others" when things are not going on our way. If match-fixing and money is the case in the World Cup, then ICC will opt for India vs Pakistan final not Australia vs England, Period!! You guys should know about that, what kind of money comes in the market when India and Pakistan play against each other. Just Give some credit to English bowlers that they bowled brilliantly on a flat pitch against the Indians.

Hmmm... do you have anything else to add if I tell you that I'm still not convinced and I still believe that India lost it on purpose? Cheesy

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Quote from: Vaskiy on July 01, 2019, 02:17:48 AM

Majority of the viewers had the same thinking that Indians were playing a fixed game. As the opponent of India being the one to host the world cup without them into the semi finals it won't be that interesting and in terms of ticketing profit too there will be big down. To overcome all these problems the match was made an intentionally fixed game which paves path for England enter the semis while Pakistan and Bangladesh under winning pressure.

The opportunity is still there for Pakistan. They need to beat Bangladesh and in that case they will be left with 11 points. The last match for England is against New Zealand, and if they lose that one then they'll finish with 10 points. For Bangladesh, it is going to be tough. They need to win tomorrow against India. If they lose, then they are out of the tournament.

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Majority of the viewers had the same thinking that Indians were playing a fixed game. As the opponent of India being the one to host the world cup without them into the semi finals it won't be that interesting and in terms of ticketing profit too there will be big down. To overcome all these problems the match was made an intentionally fixed game which paves path for England enter the semis while Pakistan and Bangladesh under winning pressure.

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