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Quote from: jostorres on September 20, 2024, 12:44:08 PM

I still think that Klay Thompson to Dallas is a very risky move, doesn't mean that it will not pay off, it could pay off amazingly it just means that it's a risky move because we do not know how it will do. Maybe it will do amazingly and maybe it will do terrible we have no idea, it could be a good thing and he could play amazingly on defense and shoot threes when other two stars are covered and all of those are a possibility and that's true. However, it could also turn out that his lateral movement is slower now based on just the fact that he tore his ACL and was never same again as we have seen last season and also he was horrible on shooting as well so maybe he will be terrible again.

This is why I think it's quite obvious that we are going to see him do either well or very badly and it's a risk that they have to take. This way they are improving the squad and they are taking a chance, they already did awesome last season and maybe they will do even better and win the whole thing this season.

Klay Thompson is getting older, I don't think he will get as many minutes as he used to. He will be one of the most important players on the team, but I wonder how much he will contribute to the score.
We have always watched him on the Golden State Warriors, we need to see what he can do on a different team. Dallas wants to come back stronger this season, they need to do better in the playoffs

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Quote from: jostorres on September 20, 2024, 12:44:08 PM

I still think that Klay Thompson to Dallas is a very risky move, doesn't mean that it will not pay off, it could pay off amazingly it just means that it's a risky move because we do not know how it will do. Maybe it will do amazingly and maybe it will do terrible we have no idea, it could be a good thing and he could play amazingly on defense and shoot threes when other two stars are covered and all of those are a possibility and that's true. However, it could also turn out that his lateral movement is slower now based on just the fact that he tore his ACL and was never same again as we have seen last season and also he was horrible on shooting as well so maybe he will be terrible again.

This is why I think it's quite obvious that we are going to see him do either well or very badly and it's a risk that they have to take. This way they are improving the squad and they are taking a chance, they already did awesome last season and maybe they will do even better and win the whole thing this season.

I'm with you on that one. I don't see the upside by getting Klay. Before he was a great 2 way player, defending the best player of the opposing team and with streaky shooting sometimes deciding games by himself. The way the offense at the GSW was designed it was great for catch & shoot situations.
In Dallas they have a different system where 2 ball dominant players take most of the shots they create for themselfes. Klay is not a good defender anymore and his shooting also declined. Paying him 50mil for 2 season is a bad deal in my eyes. What can make this situation even worse are his injury problems over the past years. I wouldn't be surprised if he picks up yet another injury and maybe only play around half the games of his contract. Hopefully he is at least ok with coming off the bench now if things go sideways with him in the starting 5. Roll Eyes

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I still think that Klay Thompson to Dallas is a very risky move, doesn't mean that it will not pay off, it could pay off amazingly it just means that it's a risky move because we do not know how it will do. Maybe it will do amazingly and maybe it will do terrible we have no idea, it could be a good thing and he could play amazingly on defense and shoot threes when other two stars are covered and all of those are a possibility and that's true. However, it could also turn out that his lateral movement is slower now based on just the fact that he tore his ACL and was never same again as we have seen last season and also he was horrible on shooting as well so maybe he will be terrible again.

This is why I think it's quite obvious that we are going to see him do either well or very badly and it's a risk that they have to take. This way they are improving the squad and they are taking a chance, they already did awesome last season and maybe they will do even better and win the whole thing this season.

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Denver Nuggets NBA Champion Makes Strong Russell Westbrook Statement
https://www.si.com/nba/nuggets/news/denver-nuggets-nba-champion-makes-strong-russell-westbrook-statement-01j86h9q292e

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During a recent interview with The Denver Post, Nuggets guard Christian Braun spoke on Westbrook.

“I love his game," Braun said. "I loved his game when I was young. I love his game now. I think his energy, his tenacity, those are all things that every team needs. He loves the game. He plays it with the right intensity. … The way he plays, downhill, so aggressive, so tough.”

I agree with Christian Braun here. The energy of Westbrook is different and I can remember one time that he led the Clippers to almost winning a game despite being in a large deficit against a team I forgot. My eyes were only on Westbrook and I could see in his movements that he badly wanted to win that game despite playing with the bench. I think many players of the Clippers were injured at that time so he was given the opportunity for more minutes.
His energy is something the Nuggets bench will need and he will probably be their ace when the Nuggets stars take their rest.

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"I know (Westbrook) will bring positive things to our team,” Braun added. “I think he’s somebody who’ll bring a hunger and excitement for the game.”

I think it will be a different Nuggets bench this season because of WB.

Right, WB's energy is electrifying and it could have a domino effect on this team mate and for sure like Braun said, he is looking forward to work and see how in real game his hard work will translate to the team.

For sure Nuggets fans are going to be excited as well with the pairing of WB with the likes of Murray and MPJ. And I'm seeing that there could be games that he might lead the team in either scoring or assists or maybe he will really contribute big if he will be given enough time to showcase his talent again.

That's why he's perfect fit on Nuggets he will be the energizer on the bench and for sure he can help Nuggets since their second unit will be so strong in presence of Westbrook. I don't know why other say that he's not good anymore although he's performance decline his performance still good and he can play a lot of games with his team.

I'm also excited on Jokic,Murray and Westbrook to play together on court since for sure they can contribute on each corner especially that they are playing in different positions.

Many say Westbrook will be the curse of Nuggets but let see if he really is, maybe from his current team he can finally get his championship since Nuggets still a title contender team this season.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on September 20, 2024, 03:55:38 AM

Denver Nuggets NBA Champion Makes Strong Russell Westbrook Statement
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During a recent interview with The Denver Post, Nuggets guard Christian Braun spoke on Westbrook.

“I love his game," Braun said. "I loved his game when I was young. I love his game now. I think his energy, his tenacity, those are all things that every team needs. He loves the game. He plays it with the right intensity. … The way he plays, downhill, so aggressive, so tough.”

I agree with Christian Braun here. The energy of Westbrook is different and I can remember one time that he led the Clippers to almost winning a game despite being in a large deficit against a team I forgot. My eyes were only on Westbrook and I could see in his movements that he badly wanted to win that game despite playing with the bench. I think many players of the Clippers were injured at that time so he was given the opportunity for more minutes.
His energy is something the Nuggets bench will need and he will probably be their ace when the Nuggets stars take their rest.

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"I know (Westbrook) will bring positive things to our team,” Braun added. “I think he’s somebody who’ll bring a hunger and excitement for the game.”

I think it will be a different Nuggets bench this season because of WB.

Right, WB's energy is electrifying and it could have a domino effect on this team mate and for sure like Braun said, he is looking forward to work and see how in real game his hard work will translate to the team.

For sure Nuggets fans are going to be excited as well with the pairing of WB with the likes of Murray and MPJ. And I'm seeing that there could be games that he might lead the team in either scoring or assists or maybe he will really contribute big if he will be given enough time to showcase his talent again.

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While I do agree that stadiums do bring in a lot of money for the city as well, and all the vendors and shops and whatever around the stadium makes a lot of money and it's even beyond that, it's like a proud to have a team etc etc, but the fact that these billionaires uses tax payer money to build stadiums still feel scammy to me. They are basically scamming tax payers to build a new stadium because they know that if one city doesn't then another city would.

It's same for NBA it's same for NFL and it's even same for football as well, Real Madrid built a billion dollar stadium and they used so much of city money to make that too, some from their pocket of course but they got so much help. So we should be seeing these billionaires and rich people pay the stadium from their pocket, just because they are providing some economy to their surroundings doesn't mean that they can't afford it, asking for it from regular people like you and me when they can afford it is a shameless act.

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Denver Nuggets NBA Champion Makes Strong Russell Westbrook Statement
https://www.si.com/nba/nuggets/news/denver-nuggets-nba-champion-makes-strong-russell-westbrook-statement-01j86h9q292e

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During a recent interview with The Denver Post, Nuggets guard Christian Braun spoke on Westbrook.

“I love his game," Braun said. "I loved his game when I was young. I love his game now. I think his energy, his tenacity, those are all things that every team needs. He loves the game. He plays it with the right intensity. … The way he plays, downhill, so aggressive, so tough.”

I agree with Christian Braun here. The energy of Westbrook is different and I can remember one time that he led the Clippers to almost winning a game despite being in a large deficit against a team I forgot. My eyes were only on Westbrook and I could see in his movements that he badly wanted to win that game despite playing with the bench. I think many players of the Clippers were injured at that time so he was given the opportunity for more minutes.
His energy is something the Nuggets bench will need and he will probably be their ace when the Nuggets stars take their rest.

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"I know (Westbrook) will bring positive things to our team,” Braun added. “I think he’s somebody who’ll bring a hunger and excitement for the game.”

I think it will be a different Nuggets bench this season because of WB.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on September 19, 2024, 10:00:57 PM

Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 04:32:02 PM

There are some players that are not even key players that have chosen to stay with their teams like Udonis Haslem.

Haslem, as a player, was mediocre. Personally, I mostly only remember him from the 05/06 season when the Heat won their first title. At that time, especially in the playoffs, he was occasionally useful to the team and definitely contributed some to that win. I think he developed a good relationship with the Heat management after that and that's probably one of the reasons why he was with the Heat for so long. In actually, the last few seasons of his career, he wasn't even a player but more of a mentor on the bench.

Haslem case is an exception though, his presence could have been valued by the Miami Heat management that's why they kept him a contract and he chooses to stay. He is not a good player that teams are going to be interested on getting.

And we can see that there was a time when him and Butler gets into an argument with Haslem, and Udonis would not back out.

You can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWAhKe-CsrE

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Quote from: Natalim on September 19, 2024, 09:43:39 PM

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There are some players that are not even key players that have chosen to stay with their teams like Udonis Haslem.

He played a key role, but it seems like his primary role was more of a mentor to the team, which is probably why he didn’t retire earlier, even though his minutes were reduced. But as for the record now, he’s retired, right?

Yes, he's retired now but on his career days with the Heat, he's like more of a supporting player than the likes of Steph and other stars.

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The case of Klay isn't different from the rest of the three because it's no doubt that aside from Steph, Warriors has had him as one of their stars and franchise players.

But that's how the NBA goes, when someone is injured and doesn't play good anymore, they'd just let it go.

Klay is still good, no doubt about it. He’s probably still working on regaining his full confidence, and maybe moving to another team could be the right solution. I’m optimistic that he could help the Dallas franchise win another championship. As long as Klay stays healthy next season, I’m sure he can contribute a lot to the team.

I'm also optimistic about his transfer to Mavs and at least we'll see three stars now there. Before it was just Luka, then Kyrie came and now with Klay.

Quote from: Natalim on September 19, 2024, 09:43:39 PM

Honestly, I don’t think the Warriors can win another championship without Klay. He’s saved them so many times, especially during those crucial moments. If you’re familiar with "Game 6 Klay," you know how big of an impact he had on their championship runs.

Without him, they're still considered as a contender for this upcoming season though. But you're probably right, it's just different that he's gone with the dub.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 04:32:02 PM

There are some players that are not even key players that have chosen to stay with their teams like Udonis Haslem.

Haslem, as a player, was mediocre. Personally, I mostly only remember him from the 05/06 season when the Heat won their first title. At that time, especially in the playoffs, he was occasionally useful to the team and definitely contributed some to that win. I think he developed a good relationship with the Heat management after that and that's probably one of the reasons why he was with the Heat for so long. In actually, the last few seasons of his career, he wasn't even a player but more of a mentor on the bench.

The last seasons are understandable because he's no longer able to contribute inside the court but through morals but he did have got a wonderful stay with the Heat. It is one of the teams that I think players can stay for so long until they retire like Wade for which coincidentally is also your username. Cheesy

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Quote from: dwyane36 on September 19, 2024, 10:00:57 PM

Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 04:32:02 PM

There are some players that are not even key players that have chosen to stay with their teams like Udonis Haslem.

Haslem, as a player, was mediocre. Personally, I mostly only remember him from the 05/06 season when the Heat won their first title. At that time, especially in the playoffs, he was occasionally useful to the team and definitely contributed some to that win. I think he developed a good relationship with the Heat management after that and that's probably one of the reasons why he was with the Heat for so long. In actually, the last few seasons of his career, he wasn't even a player but more of a mentor on the bench.

he was already retired ;

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After the Heat lost the NBA Finals to the Denver Nuggets in five games, Haslem officially announced his retirement on July 28, 2023.

But of course, we can’t forget his contribution to the Heat’s championship run before. This player, while not heavily focused on offense, was a hard worker. Even though he’s not that tall, he could hold his own against centers. It seems like he really embraced the Heat culture and maintained it, which made him a great mentor for the team.

Imagine, the Heat didn’t have many big-name players, yet they still made it to the NBA Finals twice..against the Lakers and the Nuggets. That just shows how strong their team culture (heat culture) and work ethic are.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 04:32:02 PM

There are some players that are not even key players that have chosen to stay with their teams like Udonis Haslem.

Haslem, as a player, was mediocre. Personally, I mostly only remember him from the 05/06 season when the Heat won their first title. At that time, especially in the playoffs, he was occasionally useful to the team and definitely contributed some to that win. I think he developed a good relationship with the Heat management after that and that's probably one of the reasons why he was with the Heat for so long. In actually, the last few seasons of his career, he wasn't even a player but more of a mentor on the bench.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 04:32:02 PM

There are some players that are not even key players that have chosen to stay with their teams like Udonis Haslem.

He played a key role, but it seems like his primary role was more of a mentor to the team, which is probably why he didn’t retire earlier, even though his minutes were reduced. But as for the record now, he’s retired, right?

Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 04:32:02 PM

The case of Klay isn't different from the rest of the three because it's no doubt that aside from Steph, Warriors has had him as one of their stars and franchise players.

But that's how the NBA goes, when someone is injured and doesn't play good anymore, they'd just let it go.

Klay is still good, no doubt about it. He’s probably still working on regaining his full confidence, and maybe moving to another team could be the right solution. I’m optimistic that he could help the Dallas franchise win another championship. As long as Klay stays healthy next season, I’m sure he can contribute a lot to the team.

Honestly, I don’t think the Warriors can win another championship without Klay. He’s saved them so many times, especially during those crucial moments. If you’re familiar with "Game 6 Klay," you know how big of an impact he had on their championship runs.

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I don't think that'll work either for both teams. Doncic and Giannis are both a franchise player, so trading them away is not in their books.

And so as Klay and Steph.

In NBA, it's true that there are franchise players but if there is something going on then one thing is for sure. Regardless of the treatment of the team to their main stay players.

The chance of moving onto another team is there.

Klay's scenario is different as for the other 3.

Steph, Luka and Giannis is still playing at their best currently while Klay's washed. The Warriors didn't trade him when he's on his best, but when they felt that it's over for him, they just let him go away. Franchise players can stay on their team, but once they're washed or aren't contributing to that team anymore, they can just go to another team.

There are some players that are not even key players that have chosen to stay with their teams like Udonis Haslem.

The case of Klay isn't different from the rest of the three because it's no doubt that aside from Steph, Warriors has had him as one of their stars and franchise players.

But that's how the NBA goes, when someone is injured and doesn't play good anymore, they'd just let it go.

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Seattle Sonics will be back? Roll Eyes

That's an interesting team and I think that's where KD has started his career, cmiiw. And as for the Las Vegas team, wasn't this where Lebron, Shaq and the other veterans are interested of acquiring and become team owners? I've also seen some news about Adam Silver said that they're also in finalization of things before Boston Celtics will be sold to a new owner.

You never heard about the league expansion? Seattle and LV are by far the front runners to be the next new teams in the league, this has been in the media in forever.
Even though the Sonics left many years ago basketball is still super popular in Seattle, also they have an arena which is ready to play at. Basically everything speaks for Seattle (such as LV) and the NBA can't wait to get the expansion on the way, more teams means more money to make obviously. And as we all know, the NBA is all about money.

I've heard of that just now and in the past it's like a rumors forever. And totally, it's all about the money and that's why Adam Silver before anything is being evaluated for their current value and with this expansion, that's what I've heard about they're trying to finalize things first about Celtics value before it's moved and sold to the new owners of it. More teams, means that we're going to have more players. A lot of money indeed is going to flow once again on the league.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 06:26:39 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on September 18, 2024, 04:03:06 PM

I don't think that'll work either for both teams. Doncic and Giannis are both a franchise player, so trading them away is not in their books.

And so as Klay and Steph.

In NBA, it's true that there are franchise players but if there is something going on then one thing is for sure. Regardless of the treatment of the team to their main stay players.

The chance of moving onto another team is there.

Klay's scenario is different as for the other 3.

Steph, Luka and Giannis is still playing at their best currently while Klay's washed. The Warriors didn't trade him when he's on his best, but when they felt that it's over for him, they just let him go away. Franchise players can stay on their team, but once they're washed or aren't contributing to that team anymore, they can just go to another team.

Like what @Oasisman said, I also believe that both Luka and Giannis will not be traded to another team unless: either one of them requests to do so, or if the management wants them to get traded and between the two, the first one is most likely to happen, but it isn't now or at least in the next 1-2 years. Yes there's always a chance for any player, superstar or not to get traded, but there are certain factors as well for that to happen. It's just not like, they will trade every player because they wanted to.

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 19, 2024, 08:33:42 AM

Seattle Sonics will be back? Roll Eyes

That's an interesting team and I think that's where KD has started his career, cmiiw. And as for the Las Vegas team, wasn't this where Lebron, Shaq and the other veterans are interested of acquiring and become team owners? I've also seen some news about Adam Silver said that they're also in finalization of things before Boston Celtics will be sold to a new owner.

You never heard about the league expansion? Seattle and LV are by far the front runners to be the next new teams in the league, this has been in the media in forever.
Even though the Sonics left many years ago basketball is still super popular in Seattle, also they have an arena which is ready to play at. Basically everything speaks for Seattle (such as LV) and the NBA can't wait to get the expansion on the way, more teams means more money to make obviously. And as we all know, the NBA is all about money.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on September 18, 2024, 09:51:02 PM

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 18, 2024, 04:13:32 PM

This is great news for the city and perhaps bad news for citizens of New Jersey who thought this would be their chance to get an NBA team back.

I have never heard this news, so there was a news about New Jersey acquiring a team again and 76ers was their prospect? I remember in the past that the Nets was with them but that was too long time ago and I was younger back then.

As far as I know, there have been rumors of the 76ers possibly relocating to Camden NJ since there was approval from the authorities to build a new arena there. But, as OgNasty said above, that won't happen since Philadelphia authorities have reached an agreement with the 76ers.

I get it, thanks. That's a brief yet concise summary on how this has happened before with the proposal of Camden NJ.

Quote from: dwyane36 on September 18, 2024, 09:51:02 PM

By the way, there were also rumors that two new teams may appear in the NBA already in the 27-28 season. I'm talking about the teams that will be in Las Vegas and Seattle.

Seattle Sonics will be back? Roll Eyes

That's an interesting team and I think that's where KD has started his career, cmiiw. And as for the Las Vegas team, wasn't this where Lebron, Shaq and the other veterans are interested of acquiring and become team owners? I've also seen some news about Adam Silver said that they're also in finalization of things before Boston Celtics will be sold to a new owner.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 06:26:39 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on September 18, 2024, 04:03:06 PM

I don't think that'll work either for both teams. Doncic and Giannis are both a franchise player, so trading them away is not in their books.

And so as Klay and Steph.

There is only one franchise player though in GSW, and that is Steph and not Klay. And this is the same reason why KD left the Warriors as he felt that even if he has done a lot and giving the Dubs 2 rings, it's not enough for him to get the "respect" that he deserves being a Warrior.

Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 06:26:39 AM

In NBA, it's true that there are franchise players but if there is something going on then one thing is for sure. Regardless of the treatment of the team to their main stay players.

The chance of moving onto another team is there.

Definitely, we can say that about the break up between Shaq and the Lakers, we thought that Shaq should be the franchise player. But the Lakers chooses Kobe, maybe there are some powerful people behind the Lakers management that vetoed that's why Shaq was left go and Kobe proving himself to be the franchise player after that and so they make the right decision.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 06:26:39 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on September 18, 2024, 04:03:06 PM

I don't think that'll work either for both teams. Doncic and Giannis are both a franchise player, so trading them away is not in their books.

And so as Klay and Steph.

In NBA, it's true that there are franchise players but if there is something going on then one thing is for sure. Regardless of the treatment of the team to their main stay players.

The chance of moving onto another team is there.

Especially if the money speak loudly, even how team tried to secure their stars there's still chance that either the player itself will ask for the trade or the offers is something that managements won't be able to resist, it's a business and what's important for each owners is how to make more, even they'll stake thier main star they will go to that route.

Let see if there's big movements like this to happen before the trade deadline, what surprise might it be for the fans..

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Quote from: Oasisman on September 18, 2024, 04:03:06 PM

I don't think that'll work either for both teams. Doncic and Giannis are both a franchise player, so trading them away is not in their books.

And so as Klay and Steph.

In NBA, it's true that there are franchise players but if there is something going on then one thing is for sure. Regardless of the treatment of the team to their main stay players.

The chance of moving onto another team is there.

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