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August 05, 2024, 02:57:56 PM
I wondered when the new season would start and saw that it was October 22. There are still more than 2 months though. I assume friendly games wouldn't start earlier than September.

USA have been enjoying their time in the Olympics though.  Smiley  It is such an easy work for them with all these NBA stars of course. They don't care about FIBA this much. We don't see most of these players there. But they always give a big importance to the Olympics. I'm already adding a gold medal for them as there is no other team to stop them. There is Canada which also has NBA players but still they are not as powerful as USA.

Well, I wouldn't be 100% on them. We saw what can happen on a bad day. They looked really bad against South Sudan and against Germany it was also a tie game with 5min to go. Sure these were exhibitions but I am convinced if the US has a bad day and Canada or Germany( hopefully) has a very good day there is a chance.

Their egos might get in the way big time.
One thing is already clear, when they assembled the team they said they would beat every team by 30-40 points, well that didn't happen already.
Wouldn't it be the best thing ever if the self proclaimed "best team of all time" would not win gold in these Olympics. I would laugh my ass off.
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August 05, 2024, 11:46:31 AM
I wondered when the new season would start and saw that it was October 22. There are still more than 2 months though. I assume friendly games wouldn't start earlier than September.

USA have been enjoying their time in the Olympics though.  Smiley  It is such an easy work for them with all these NBA stars of course. They don't care about FIBA this much. We don't see most of these players there. But they always give a big importance to the Olympics. I'm already adding a gold medal for them as there is no other team to stop them. There is Canada which also has NBA players but still they are not as powerful as USA.
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August 05, 2024, 09:30:49 AM

Speaking of Embiid though, have you noticed that he is getting booed by the fans whenever he touches the ball? Not sure way he is beating boo'ed or what, most probably they think that he didn't go and represent his country Cameroon in basketball?

Embiid also has French citizenship. So, it's no surprise that fans at the Olympics in France booed him a bit for his decision to play for the US team instead of the French team. In principle, Embiid's decision is quite understandable because he wants to win the Olympics, and it's obvious that he can only do it with the US team, not with the French team.
Yeah, he is just making a wise decision. If he joins France, it might add or boost the chances of the French team, but it still can't be compared to the winning percentage of the US in getting the gold. Imagine a team full of NBA stars. Of course, it's normal for Embiid to choose it. He is 30 years old already. Who knows, maybe this will be his last shot in Olympic game. He's just taking advantage of it.
He’ll win the gold, but the fulfillment isn’t as great compared to playing with France and perhaps leading the team to a championship. Maybe Embiid just wants an easier path to a medal, but we can't blame the fans for being disappointed because the team could have been better with him. So, he’ll play with France. All the great talents are big men: Embiid, Wemby, and Gobert. Will they play together as part of the first 5? LOL.
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August 05, 2024, 06:07:06 AM

Speaking of Embiid though, have you noticed that he is getting booed by the fans whenever he touches the ball? Not sure way he is beating boo'ed or what, most probably they think that he didn't go and represent his country Cameroon in basketball?

Embiid also has French citizenship. So, it's no surprise that fans at the Olympics in France booed him a bit for his decision to play for the US team instead of the French team. In principle, Embiid's decision is quite understandable because he wants to win the Olympics, and it's obvious that he can only do it with the US team, not with the French team.
Yeah, he is just making a wise decision. If he joins France, it might add or boost the chances of the French team, but it still can't be compared to the winning percentage of the US in getting the gold. Imagine a team full of NBA stars. Of course, it's normal for Embiid to choose it. He is 30 years old already. Who knows, maybe this will be his last shot in Olympic game. He's just taking advantage of it.
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August 05, 2024, 05:34:02 AM

Speaking of Embiid though, have you noticed that he is getting booed by the fans whenever he touches the ball? Not sure way he is beating boo'ed or what, most probably they think that he didn't go and represent his country Cameroon in basketball?

Embiid also has French citizenship. So, it's no surprise that fans at the Olympics in France booed him a bit for his decision to play for the US team instead of the French team. In principle, Embiid's decision is quite understandable because he wants to win the Olympics, and it's obvious that he can only do it with the US team, not with the French team.
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August 05, 2024, 04:55:41 AM
I think we can expect a completely different player when he gets back to Philly.
We will see if he isn't really 100% yet. His playoff performance wasn't impressive because he was inconsistent, so if he plays that way back in Philly, their playoff chances might be at risk.

Not at risk mate, there will be no playoffs to talk about if this how Embiid would play during the next regular season, but I strongly doubt it, I believe quite a number of players in this team except the veterans that have been here before are not used to not having the team almost centered around them and the entire team playing to these players strength, even when he's on the floor for team USA a lot of possession will not and doesn't have to go through him, probably he's still yet to adapt to that fact, look at when KD came in from the bench in the opening game and literally lifted the team USA within minutes almost individually, but Lebron on the other hands, has also been doing it all too. This USA team has enough offensive fire power, in the backcourt and on the wings as well so that have zero need to play through their big men, and the primary object of their big men would always be grabbing boards and defense, which Embiid quite lacks as a big man imo.

Agree to that, Embiid is more on offense unlike Bam which can play both side on the floor, with that heavy powerhouse squad as everyone who will go inside can contribute, big players like Embiid mostly play as for defensive purpose and for grabbing rebounds, he can't remove the fact that he's playing alongside with all superstars which can carry the whole squad if it's needed.

Speaking of Embiid though, have you noticed that he is getting booed by the fans whenever he touches the ball? Not sure way he is beating boo'ed or what, most probably they think that he didn't go and represent his country Cameroon in basketball?

Anyhow, yeah, Joel is there as started five for pure defensive purposes. And then Bam later to finished the job, same with AD.

There are a lot of players that can really give offense to this team obviously, but they also need to put defensive presence and that's where Joel is inserted in the beginning so that teams might not want to go inside or at least they will change their shots as Joel is in the middle.
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August 05, 2024, 01:13:04 AM
I think we can expect a completely different player when he gets back to Philly.
We will see if he isn't really 100% yet. His playoff performance wasn't impressive because he was inconsistent, so if he plays that way back in Philly, their playoff chances might be at risk.

Not at risk mate, there will be no playoffs to talk about if this how Embiid would play during the next regular season, but I strongly doubt it, I believe quite a number of players in this team except the veterans that have been here before are not used to not having the team almost centered around them and the entire team playing to these players strength, even when he's on the floor for team USA a lot of possession will not and doesn't have to go through him, probably he's still yet to adapt to that fact, look at when KD came in from the bench in the opening game and literally lifted the team USA within minutes almost individually, but Lebron on the other hands, has also been doing it all too. This USA team has enough offensive fire power, in the backcourt and on the wings as well so that have zero need to play through their big men, and the primary object of their big men would always be grabbing boards and defense, which Embiid quite lacks as a big man imo.

Agree to that, Embiid is more on offense unlike Bam which can play both side on the floor, with that heavy powerhouse squad as everyone who will go inside can contribute, big players like Embiid mostly play as for defensive purpose and for grabbing rebounds, he can't remove the fact that he's playing alongside with all superstars which can carry the whole squad if it's needed.

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August 05, 2024, 01:01:58 AM
That's because that's what we've come to in the world of sports and apps like Twitter.  People spend more time bashing teams they hate then on teams they like.  New York is readily hated in the sports world so julius being one of the biggest sports figures in new york is an easy target.  General managers and coaches don't go by what Walmart cashiers are saying on Twitter.  Knicks don't have a better answer at the 4 in free agency and they already traded a ton of picks why do that again when ypu have a ready made all nba power forward right at home.  Knicks are 100% going to resign julius so long as julius wants to stay
Sad world we are living in now. Most people do is just bash others like they are always entitled to do so.
The New York Knicks did a great job last year acquiring a ton of players that I actually didn't expect would work that fast because of chemistry problems but surprisingly they played well together and it's awesome that they reached the playoffs and better, to the second round after defeating the 76ers in the first round.
Sadly, injuries are part of the game, OG and Randle getting hurt had a big-time effect on their team and they are left with a small ball lineup that I doubt could win the series against the strong Pacers (although they almost did). Heck, that's the time I saw Josh Hart not sitting down unless it's a timeout. Cheesy
They need Randle, it will be difficult to find a forward at the same level as him and I bet he would accept it considering how far they reached last season.
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August 05, 2024, 12:39:09 AM
I think we can expect a completely different player when he gets back to Philly.
We will see if he isn't really 100% yet. His playoff performance wasn't impressive because he was inconsistent, so if he plays that way back in Philly, their playoff chances might be at risk.

Not at risk mate, there will be no playoffs to talk about if this how Embiid would play during the next regular season, but I strongly doubt it, I believe quite a number of players in this team except the veterans that have been here before are not used to not having the team almost centered around them and the entire team playing to these players strength, even when he's on the floor for team USA a lot of possession will not and doesn't have to go through him, probably he's still yet to adapt to that fact, look at when KD came in from the bench in the opening game and literally lifted the team USA within minutes almost individually, but Lebron on the other hands, has also been doing it all too. This USA team has enough offensive fire power, in the backcourt and on the wings as well so that have zero need to play through their big men, and the primary object of their big men would always be grabbing boards and defense, which Embiid quite lacks as a big man imo.
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August 05, 2024, 12:25:31 AM
I'd say the Olympics Embiid is completely different from what he brings to the NBA, perhaps he's not fully committed to this because there is no way he could be the center of attention,
He isn't now; it's still LeBron acting as their real leader, and we have this clowny but talented Edwards, who is easy to play with. All in all, this Team USA has good chemistry, which is why they are playing well. So, bringing in some veterans who are still making contributions to the team really works for them, unlike the roster that represented during the FIBA World Cup, which consisted of young NBA star players.

I think we can expect a completely different player when he gets back to Philly.
We will see if he isn't really 100% yet. His playoff performance wasn't impressive because he was inconsistent, so if he plays that way back in Philly, their playoff chances might be at risk.
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August 04, 2024, 11:50:53 PM
Embiid is absolutely embarrassing himself in the Olympics. Today he taunted the crowd and then airballed a shot. This after showing an incredible lack of effort so far. Paul George has got to be watching this and getting a littler nervous about whether or not he made the right decision in the offseason for next year.
Honestly, I don't really trust Embiid to be emotionally strong and mentally focused. He might have won a regular season MVP in the NBA before, but he is nowhere near Jokic in terms of passion for the sport and competitiveness. So I'm not surprised by what you posted here. Even though I didn't see the game, I would easily be convinced that he did that since I know him really well.

Speaking of efforts I really don't even why Embiid was on the team USA to be honest, after the surgery he's had and how he struggled in the playoffs with fitness, I think they only put him on the roster just to secure his service to commit to USA once and for since there were talks last season about whether he would choose to play for France.

I'd say the Olympics Embiid is completely different from what he brings to the NBA, perhaps he's not fully committed to this because there is no way he could be the center of attention, I think we can expect a completely different player when he gets back to Philly.
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August 04, 2024, 11:41:43 PM
Honestly, I don't really trust Embiid to be emotionally strong and mentally focused. He might have won a regular season MVP in the NBA before, but he is nowhere near Jokic in terms of passion for the sport and competitiveness. So I'm not surprised by what you posted here. Even though I didn't see the game, I would easily be convinced that he did that since I know him really well.
It's scattered all over social media and Youtube so it won't be that hard to find.
Yeah, for me that KIA Season MVP that he got was just media trying to stop Jokic from making a record. I won't say he doesn't deserve it but obviously, it was Jokic who wins the stats but since it's a voting process, Jokic cannot do anything if they try to stop him from making history that will be difficult to erase. So the next option is their vote.
I suspect that's what happened. Because the league feel that americans should be more superior and has to be dominating the leauge.  Jokic had already won a back to back MVP before that if I'm not mistaken, so they tried to kill that streak. Anyway, going back to the team Olympics, maybe Embiid would have bigger contribution if he played with his other team cameroon but he wanted an easy route to the gold.

Well, they have PG13 now, and I hope he can knock some sense out of that guy using his veteran perspective. PG13 is not known for doing such things as taunting they are like hot and cold and we will see if it will make a difference.
PG13 is very serious, I hope he'll be the one that will lead the team, not Embiid. It remains to be seen this coming season if the chemistry will work because with Harden before, it didn't.
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August 04, 2024, 04:48:35 PM

Yeah, but based on numbers, he is putting solid since he become a Knicks and so that could be the management is looking, on how they think Randle will play after his injuries. Still solid NYK team if he is back, we have Jalen Brunson and the rest knows how to contributed although they have lost Isaiah Hartenstein. But I still see the when Randle is healthy, he is going to lead the team in the playoffs again. He is a All star if I'm not mistaken, but we all know that if a players is injured and nursing some injuries, their performance are going to be affected. So let's give Randle another run in the Knicks uniform and take back his leadership or at least the alpha of the team.

Randle is not an injury-prone player, so it's just right that they gave him a chance to earn a good contract so he could play better. In fact, his numbers are already good enough to justify the contract he received, so there's no debate on that. The only problem is our fear that he will be injured again and all the money they invested in him will be wasted since they could not utilize him. However, I know they are smart enough to understand what they are doing. They know better than us, so they gave a good contract to a player they believe in and his capability.

Now discussions float up regarding on new contract eligibility what Randle can get and now Knicks is thinking about this matter since maybe as you said they are careful giving huge contract to him since they are afraid that they might just waste their money he get injured again. There's article about this here will share the link https://nypost.com/2024/08/02/sports/knicks-julius-randle-on-the-clock-for-tricky-contract-decision/

And if Randle maybe could give a good assurance to his team that he can give help his team next season provably next will erase their doubt and agree to that current extension what Randle is eligible to get.

Knicks can pay over and above tueor salary cap they will just have to pay luxury taxes.  With Jim Dolan manning the team I think he can absorb it.  With the fact of knicks not being able to absorb a huge contract other than someone on theor own team and julius being an all star and an all nba team.  This is a no trainer and wish there was odds on it.  The only factor is whether or no Ju wants to resign
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August 04, 2024, 02:06:13 PM
NBA Central is reporting that Skip Bayless may be done on tv. I never really liked him and I think his LeBron slander is ridiculous for an on air personality, but he will be missed by haters I’m sure. I wonder how long before he tries to cash in on his hater past with some sort of apology video for LeBron… Crazy that The King’s career has outlasted even the non-player careers of his haters.
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August 04, 2024, 11:06:19 AM
So for the Knicks fans, do you think that Randle deserves this huge contract? And isn't it the Knicks could be over the salary cap in the next coming years as they have Brunson as well being paid handsomely and I think he is now the new leader of the Knicks?

They played so great in the playoffs without Randle, of course it will be good if he was there, but not sure what will be the outcome of that series.
It's up for the Knicks to answer that and evaluate him if ever he's going to be worth with the team. And what if he's there during the playoffs, maybe they'll be able to reach farther than what they've made.

A huge contract with a four years tied on him is going to be securing for Randle but that's the question that only Knicks will answer.

Let's see what happens this Saturday if there will be another contract or offer for him or they'd stick to that amount.

Exactly, the management is the one who knows what's better for the team or what's better for the value of their money, whether they will give him that new or will stick with what they already giving him, all that will be answered once the new contract already signed, I agree with what you said, it's only the management can answer whatever Randle will be taking from them, if that's going to be sweet or whatever it will be depends from how both side will agree.
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August 04, 2024, 08:33:04 AM
Embiid is absolutely embarrassing himself in the Olympics. Today he taunted the crowd and then airballed a shot. This after showing an incredible lack of effort so far. Paul George has got to be watching this and getting a littler nervous about whether or not he made the right decision in the offseason for next year.
Thinking he might've made a wrong decision. A bit sad for PG13. I know Embiid likes to show off but damn that was just not good to see. He though he will get lucky. Cheesy

Honestly, I don't really trust Embiid to be emotionally strong and mentally focused. He might have won a regular season MVP in the NBA before, but he is nowhere near Jokic in terms of passion for the sport and competitiveness. So I'm not surprised by what you posted here. Even though I didn't see the game, I would easily be convinced that he did that since I know him really well.
It's scattered all over social media and Youtube so it won't be that hard to find.
Yeah, for me that KIA Season MVP that he got was just media trying to stop Jokic from making a record. I won't say he doesn't deserve it but obviously, it was Jokic who wins the stats but since it's a voting process, Jokic cannot do anything if they try to stop him from making history that will be difficult to erase. So the next option is their vote.
Well, they have PG13 now, and I hope he can knock some sense out of that guy using his veteran perspective. PG13 is not known for doing such things as taunting they are like hot and cold and we will see if it will make a difference.
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August 04, 2024, 06:00:26 AM
Embiid is absolutely embarrassing himself in the Olympics. Today he taunted the crowd and then airballed a shot. This after showing an incredible lack of effort so far. Paul George has got to be watching this and getting a littler nervous about whether or not he made the right decision in the offseason for next year.
Honestly, I don't really trust Embiid to be emotionally strong and mentally focused. He might have won a regular season MVP in the NBA before, but he is nowhere near Jokic in terms of passion for the sport and competitiveness. So I'm not surprised by what you posted here. Even though I didn't see the game, I would easily be convinced that he did that since I know him really well.
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August 03, 2024, 07:01:24 PM
I was quiet surprised to see Julius Randle's name in my feed, I thought he was traded or something. Then there was his image of him fully jack after not playing for the past 6 months. And then this tweet,



https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1819000212523810952

So for the Knicks fans, do you think that Randle deserves this huge contract? And isn't it the Knicks could be over the salary cap in the next coming years as they have Brunson as well being paid handsomely and I think he is now the new leader of the Knicks?

They played so great in the playoffs without Randle, of course it will be good if he was there, but not sure what will be the outcome of that series.

IMO, they could've played even greater with Randle on the floor. The Knicks were on a 6 game winning streak and was 12-2 the month before Randle got injured. But even before the arrival of Jalen, the team were starting to flourish under Randle and they became better with the much needed addition. So I guess the Knicks' management will give him that contract. Maybe there will be some movements or trades or they'll just pay the luxury tax in order to keep Randle. But we'll see, maybe Randle is willing to receive less in order to avoid higher luxury taxes.

Yeah, I would agree he deserves the contract extension, I mean evaluate for the value he adds to the team when fit and on the court, he didn't get injured jet-skiing or at home, he got he injured while on the Knicks jersey, occupational hazard, I guess ? So would be discussing if he deserve the contract or not he had been playing all this ? most definitely not, I'd say.

Get the big fella his bag!!!
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August 03, 2024, 03:31:56 PM

Yeah, but based on numbers, he is putting solid since he become a Knicks and so that could be the management is looking, on how they think Randle will play after his injuries. Still solid NYK team if he is back, we have Jalen Brunson and the rest knows how to contributed although they have lost Isaiah Hartenstein. But I still see the when Randle is healthy, he is going to lead the team in the playoffs again. He is a All star if I'm not mistaken, but we all know that if a players is injured and nursing some injuries, their performance are going to be affected. So let's give Randle another run in the Knicks uniform and take back his leadership or at least the alpha of the team.

Randle is not an injury-prone player, so it's just right that they gave him a chance to earn a good contract so he could play better. In fact, his numbers are already good enough to justify the contract he received, so there's no debate on that. The only problem is our fear that he will be injured again and all the money they invested in him will be wasted since they could not utilize him. However, I know they are smart enough to understand what they are doing. They know better than us, so they gave a good contract to a player they believe in and his capability.
I agree that he played really well before he was injured and he will probably come back stronger. The problem is, that videos that are spread all over social media are his mistakes, and most who will believe it are those who don't really watch basketball. He has an attitude and that is not a problem, a basketball player must have confidence to be a better player. I can say it's just his competitive nature.
But he must also accept that the NYK's new leader now is Brunson and it's filled with Villanova players. Adjusting is the hard part in a team but he ain't a guard so I guess it should not be that hard for them. He and OG will do a great job at their position especially if they need rebounds and defense in the painted area.

That's because that's what we've come to in the world of sports and apps like Twitter.  People spend more time bashing teams they hate then on teams they like.  New York is readily hated in the sports world so julius being one of the biggest sports figures in new york is an easy target.  General managers and coaches don't go by what Walmart cashiers are saying on Twitter.  Knicks don't have a better answer at the 4 in free agency and they already traded a ton of picks why do that again when ypu have a ready made all nba power forward right at home.  Knicks are 100% going to resign julius so long as julius wants to stay
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August 03, 2024, 01:53:34 PM
Embiid is absolutely embarrassing himself in the Olympics. Today he taunted the crowd and then airballed a shot. This after showing an incredible lack of effort so far. Paul George has got to be watching this and getting a littler nervous about whether or not he made the right decision in the offseason for next year.
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