Topic: 2019 NBA Pre-Season - page 107. (Read 921432 times)

I don't know if you can consider the Bucks as super team, it is still Giannis only, and then we have Lillard, but he has been very inconsistent as well and then Middleton, his game has gone down since Lillard join the team as they are almost in the exact position. And I do agree that if they had a bad season again, they could break up and Giannis seeking another great team to win another ring.

Or perhaps there are a lot of good players in the league today as compare to different era's. Although if you look at MJ's era, there are a lot of super teams as well, it's that they are in the wrong era as MJ took over the 90's.

But they’ve already built a super team, there’s no need for him to join on other team. With Lillard and Middleton alongside him, they’re already stacked. I’m not sure what their fate will be next season, but if they fail again, it’s likely their lineup will be demolish in the coming season.

Forget about the super team era, things are different now. Teams improve through chemistry, like we’ve seen with the Nuggets (who won their first championship), the Wolves (surprising the Suns' super team), and even the Mavericks, who went to the Finals. I like this current trend more, compared to before when super teams dominated and we knew there was always one team in the East and West, like the Cavaliers and Warriors, with an 80% chance of winning.

Maybe DLo or Austin Reaves or or Rui Hachimura future draft picks might be the best that they can offer if they wanted to pursue either of the players. However, this era has started to be another superstars joining another team to make a super team.

However, it's been like the Heat with Lebron and Dwade and Bosh and then we have KD joining the already loaded team in Warriors back them to win a back to back ring. Giannis though said in the past that he doesn't want to join to form a super team, if I'm not mistaken.

Their players have low trading value and its hard for them to move players since they are been affected by last conference performance. If they offer AD or Lebron to other team well provably  that he can get high caliber player in return, but I guess Lakers don't want this trade to happen since Bron have huge market value for their team in terms of marketing and other stuff. While AD is valuable contributor for their team so I guess the only solution to get a good players is thru free agency. Since maybe they can get good role players there. I also don't think that Mavs would trade Doncic he's so valuable piece for them and their team would provably keep him for good. Maybe they have chance to acquire Giannis since there's rumor that he want to leave Bucks. He is so competitive and if Bucks will be at losing streak or he's upset with their campaign then maybe this trade might possible to happen. But let see if they can give up Bron or AD if this possible trade will happen.

The Lakers don't have anyone (except LeBron and AD) to offer in a trade for Doncic or Giannis, and draft picks would clearly be an insufficient asset for such trades. And honestly, I don't think there are any scenarios where the Mavs would want to trade Doncic, or the Bucks would want to trade Giannis. By the way, Doncic is under contract for 3 more seasons, and I think the Mavs will offer him a huge extension in his last season. Same with Giannis.

It's a moot point because Jimmy isn't a free agent he can't just pack up and go to the Warriors.  That's all between general managers.  Next year, completely different story but Jimmy is up there too why would he join an aging team that is going the wrong way towards a championship?  Just playing with steph isn't good enough to want to go. 

If I’m managing the Lakers I wouldn’t rush to make any moves while LeBron is still on the roster. They need to be looking at ways to unwind this current team and make room for Luka Doncic. They need to stack draft picks and align contracts to expire. With the possibility of being left without LeBron or AD in another 2 years, a superstar like Luka or Giannis needs to be their only focus.

Better to go to the team where chances of winning a chip is more possible since the offer might be still the same its better to play with competitive team instead of going a team where there's no chance, in terms of Jimmy he's not getting any younger and with those minor injuries the chance is slim if he's going to a non competitive squad, best to stay with Miami or aim for the team where he can his talents and win a ring.

Warriors would make more sense for Butler than Lakers if you ask me, he would be playing with Curry-Hield-Butler-Draymond four at the start and that could honestly be a team that could go for a title if the system fits. Not saying that they would win it all, but I think it's clear that they would have some good time doing something like that, it should be considered. Steve Kerr isn't a bad coach neither, he could make that team work together very well and I believe that they have a good chance as well.

In the end, it all depends on if Miami wants to trade him or not, and I haven't seen anything from the team that shows that they want to trade him, there could be some interest from other teams and that's fine but just because other teams wants him, doesn't mean that he is going to be getting that trade, he will probably end up staying at Miami in the end. We should consider that as a possibility and I believe that it looks like Butler will be there for a long time.

It will take time for teams like Detroit to built a championship roster and he'll never know the budget that they can do. That's why like what KD did, these stars can go to the teams they think will help them as well as they're going to give each of them a chip.
Both win-win for players and teams that are looking the same.

^ Giannis to Dallas doesn’t seem possible to me. I don’t see why he would make that move. I think Dallas has themselves a problem because Luka is rumored to be heading to the Lakers and they built the team around him. The only team I want to see Giannis play for is the Warriors. I think Steph and Giannis would be a legendary pairing.

TBH, I don't think that the Warriors will give that much young and talented player just to get Butler.

Getting Butler will not make them a championship caliber team especially when they will be giving Kuminga and other young stars as an exchange. What Butler wants right now is money that's why he's hinting of him going to the Brooklyn as well because he knows that the Nets have a very huge cap space, enough for him to get a huge contract still. Butler to the Lakers will have more sense than going to the Warriors. Well, what I believe is that, Butler will stay with Miami this season and will try to opt out on his final year of his contract to explore.

Miami might not be a championship caliber team as of this moment, but I think they can still compete in the playoffs especially now that they also have Jacquez Jr.

He said it already a few years ago that if the Bucks' management will not do something to improve the team, he will be going out of Milwaukee. Well, they made a move by getting Damian Lillard, but what they got is a complete failure "ONCE AGAIN".

Giannis to Dallas? Hmmm it seems possible, only if the Mavericks have cap space, but they don't have as of this moment. If the Mavericks will pursue Giannis, they will involve into the trade talks that's for sure. They might use him for a sign-and-trade just to get Giannis. Their combo will be one of the best 1-2 combos if this trade will push through but rumors will remain rumors until it happens.

I read an article about this possible trade scenario. Yes, it would give the Warriors fewer future talents. Kuminga is growing fast and he showcased that during their run in the playoffs because they are filled with injuries. I think that dude just needs more confidence and experience and he will probably be one of the best in the league. I would not sacrifice him, especially now that the Warriors need more speed if they like to run the same play.

It's only possible after they let go of Kyrie and Klay, and maybe more important pieces to make a Luka and Giannis duo. Let's also consider the price of the Bucks superstar and then the salary cap. It will be shocking if it does materialize but I highly doubt that.
The balance of the NBA will be gone and we will probably end up getting bored with that kind of scenario knowing they will win the championship with a high percentage.

It's the question on why Lakers or Warriors? Why not Detroit Pistons that Jimmy Butler can lead the team again just like what he did when he move to Miami Heat. So for now, this could really be just a rumor that media keeps on spinning or spreading as there are no news of the NBA right now and probably we are just waiting for the opening and there will be no major movements for now.

But in any case that he goes to either of the top teams like the Lakers and the Warriors, it will also cost a lot from them and maybe one or two future picks + current roster that will be involved in this trade for Jimmy Butler.

Mostly people would like to see him go either with Lakers or Warriors but again, this is all rumors and we shouldn't be heavily invested on the idea of it.
The media keeps on spreading these rumors that might tend to become a false rumor in the end. Or if it's not the media but the loyal fans and supporters of those teams that are linking to this rumor.

It's just born out of frustrations for Giannis if he wanted to get out of the Bucks. I think it's fair though, last year, they are expecting to have a good team with Dame as the new teammate. Nevertheless, they have a lot of issues, fired their head coach, have a interim that did good for them but eventually replace by Doc Rivers who have been criticized as well.

For Butler, same, maybe he wanted reset of his career and a good destination could be Warriors for him to team up with Steph Curry. But if the Heat will counter offer, not in terms of money, but in terms of players that will surround him, maybe he will stay at least for 2-3 season.

It's just a question on whether if there is a smoke, there is fire. So obviously, this could be half meant news, I mean there could be insider that leaking this kind of information from Butler side that he might not be happy anymore from the Miami Heat as they have been around for many years, reach the championships but never won.

So maybe Butler is thinking of going to another team, a championship team that can give him a ring. However, going to the Warriors will not be a good option as the Warriors will also have to trade a lot of their players just to get them. They already lost Klay already, and so they will have to experiment this season if they can still go and reach at least the playoff for this year before thinking of trading their big players.

True, it doesn't make sense for Butler to leave the Heat and then goes to the Warriors? I think he is fine with the Heat as their alpha, they just have to surround himself with another set of new role players as some of them have really left the team for higher pay. But for sure they will have to thank the management for that, for their coach to give him the time and exposure and believed on themselves to be a great players. If Butler will go on other teams, it should be that he will be the leader, just like when he went to the Sixers before, with Joel as the leader that time and with Ben Simmons, there are friction and it was not a fruitful stay with the Sixers.

Yeah I agree to that, what they need is to keep developing the full potentials of those young stars now that Klay is out they need to maximize the use of each other, developing chemistries and keeping that bond and trust with each other, like you said they are more competitive now compared from what they've got last season, they just need to keep grinding in terms of establishing their system, that same patterns that brought them to many championship rings.

Yeah most of these reports are always pure speculation. In the offseason channels and outlets always jump on stories and report a lot on them just because there is not much else going on. And since JB is a big name in a big market obviously he is worth reporting on. Miami doesn't need to hurry but they als don't want to give Jimmy the extension he is seeking. So if they want to get something for him before his contract expires it would be as soon as possible. Sure there are still 2 seasons left on his current contract but the last year is a player option. I doubt though that he would opt out of a 52 million last year.
On the other hand, if another team would give him what he wants there is still the possibility this might happen.