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August 01, 2022, 02:22:58 AM
Base on Wikipedia, in the past 10 years, only 2 teams manage to get a back-to-back title and that is the Miami Heat and the Golden State Warriors and in the last 4 years, we have seen a different champion every year. The last time where a team won 3 straight was in 2000-2002 by the Lakers which is being lead at that time by Kobe-Shaq. No team every won 4-7 straight years and only the Celtics won 8 straight. A thing that will never be done in the modern era where the competition is already high.

Russell's legacy will be remembered in the NBA for sure and some of his achievements will never be broken. RIP to one of the legend and for sure the NBA world is very unhappy with this news (including me even though I didn't see him play on live TV) Cry.
I have the same experience as you. I didn't see any game from this player and yet the respect is there whenever he comes to the NBA and present the Bill Russell award to the Finals MVP. I guess we could say that's the vibe of being an 11 time champion of the league.
He will be missed, that's for sure and right now I am watching different tributes from streamers.
For someone who fought for race equality, he definitely made a big impact for the change we are experiencing now.
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August 01, 2022, 01:32:29 AM
Base on Wikipedia, in the past 10 years, only 2 teams manage to get a back-to-back title and that is the Miami Heat and the Golden State Warriors and in the last 4 years, we have seen a different champion every year. The last time where a team won 3 straight was in 2000-2002 by the Lakers which is being lead at that time by Kobe-Shaq. No team every won 4-7 straight years and only the Celtics won 8 straight. A thing that will never be done in the modern era where the competition is already high.

Russell's legacy will be remembered in the NBA for sure and some of his achievements will never be broken. RIP to one of the legend and for sure the NBA world is very unhappy with this news (including me even though I didn't see him play on live TV) Cry.

Yeah, the style of play has changed a lot over the past 50 years, so it's no surprise that many teams just can't win a few titles in a row now. Whatever it was, that news of Russell's passing is really sad, even though many of us didn't get to see him play live in his prime. In any case, his achievements and influence are still impressive and will continue to impress future generations of players.
Rest in peace, Champion!
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August 01, 2022, 12:14:03 AM
Rest In Peace to Bill Russell. One of the best champions to ever grace the NBA court. This news will no doubt be heartbreaking to the NBA family and I’m sure the Celtics and the NBA as a whole will be dedicating this upcoming season to the legend. There will be one hell of a tribute to Bill. He was the definition of winning and a team player during his time in the league with the Celtics. A legend for sure.
Sad day. May he rest in peace. Let's not also forget his attendance during big events of the league. Even at his age, he was always there to support the sport that he loved.

https://twitter.com/NBAHistory/status/1392911563779198983?s=20&t=RvukkLSJtaM-RmZ4Ppb4qQ
Nice clip. Two great players now resting in peace.
Bill and Kobe talking about how they watch games and players.
Great moments. They will not be forgotten.


They will not for sure, both legends contribute a lot to this sport, Bill as Bill and Kobe as Kobe

Unreplaceable players who really influenced the league. It's saddened, but it's about time. He already lives that long enough to
share views and his own knowledge about this sport.

Bye for now, the rest of the NBA fans will continue to remember all of your contributions and all those unforgettable stats
that will remain forever..
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July 31, 2022, 11:28:50 PM
I confess that I was impressed and saddened by the passing of Bill Russell. One of the best players the NBA has ever had! Imagine the amount of players he could help and sharing his experience, he was indeed a legend!

And I almost forget, Russell has some records that have not been broken until today, for example, being the only player with 11 rings (NBA)
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July 31, 2022, 11:19:10 PM
Wow, I'm just watching a Bill Russell interview a couple of days ago, their run with the Boston Celtics, his legendary battle against Wilt Chamberlain. And now hearing that he just passed away makes me sad.

I agree that certain records are very very hard to break now, the records him and the rest of the HOF of that Boston era. Rest in Peace champ.
we should accept the fact that on this world no one will stay forever and only our history will remain so that our special love ones will remember us while we are in the other side.

Now they can play with kobe in the other side and the rest of the legendary in basketball. . May he rest in peace..
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July 31, 2022, 10:15:50 PM
Rest In Peace to Bill Russell. One of the best champions to ever grace the NBA court. This news will no doubt be heartbreaking to the NBA family and I’m sure the Celtics and the NBA as a whole will be dedicating this upcoming season to the legend. There will be one hell of a tribute to Bill. He was the definition of winning and a team player during his time in the league with the Celtics. A legend for sure.
Sad day. May he rest in peace. Let's not also forget his attendance during big events of the league. Even at his age, he was always there to support the sport that he loved.

https://twitter.com/NBAHistory/status/1392911563779198983?s=20&t=RvukkLSJtaM-RmZ4Ppb4qQ
Nice clip. Two great players now resting in peace.
Bill and Kobe talking about how they watch games and players.
Great moments. They will not be forgotten.
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July 31, 2022, 09:11:27 PM
Imagine you only played 13 seasons but you win 11 rings, that's really an untouchable record in the NBA and I doubt even in the next century to come would even beat that.
No one will ever beat that record. The competition now is very high that it is very hard to even get a championship let alone 11 rings.

Rest in peace Bill Russell.
Base on Wikipedia, in the past 10 years, only 2 teams manage to get a back-to-back title and that is the Miami Heat and the Golden State Warriors and in the last 4 years, we have seen a different champion every year. The last time where a team won 3 straight was in 2000-2002 by the Lakers which is being lead at that time by Kobe-Shaq. No team every won 4-7 straight years and only the Celtics won 8 straight. A thing that will never be done in the modern era where the competition is already high.

Russell's legacy will be remembered in the NBA for sure and some of his achievements will never be broken. RIP to one of the legend and for sure the NBA world is very unhappy with this news (including me even though I didn't see him play on live TV) Cry.
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July 31, 2022, 07:27:33 PM
Basketball in the 70's and 80's was a different game then what it is today. I'm sure winning 8 championships in a row is tough no matter what era we are talking but the game has evolved so much since then it will be a hard record to match.
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July 31, 2022, 07:24:42 PM
Wow, I'm just watching a Bill Russell interview a couple of days ago, their run with the Boston Celtics, his legendary battle against Wilt Chamberlain. And now hearing that he just passed away makes me sad.

I agree that certain records are very very hard to break now, the records him and the rest of the HOF of that Boston era. Rest in Peace champ.
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July 31, 2022, 06:53:10 PM
So what would happen, is Curry trying to threaten the organization that there could be a conflict if they will not give Draymond's demand? I think the organization knows what they are doing, though in a team we have some superstars who are just working for the team, they are paid by the management and they have to respect the decision of the management.

The conflict between players is common, but the conflict between players and management, that's very rare.
Yes, that's the case. It's like Curry won't be as as effective as he would be without Draymond Green.
We all doubt that but that's like a protection for players he don't want to leave.
Although, I want to urge this to happen. Let Draymond go and see where they will be at. It's not that I want the to be broken but this kind of selfishness should be penalized.
He things he is a player that Warriors won't be effective without him.
Let him go and see if that's really the way it is. Why? Because I highly doubt he cannot be replaced.

Or do something like the Suns did to Ayton. Let him out in the market and make a counter offer. At least you will know how much other teams think his value will be and you will save some money also if other teams did not give him max. Let him learn from the market how much is he really worth.

Imagine you only played 13 seasons but you win 11 rings, that's really an untouchable record in the NBA and I doubt even in the next century to come would even beat that.
No one will ever beat that record. The competition now is very high that it is very hard to even get a championship let alone 11 rings.

Rest in peace Bill Russell.
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July 31, 2022, 06:33:25 PM
And he had fought very hard in that era, 50's-60's.

He won 11 championships during the era you have mentioned and 8 of those were straight. Boston Celtics are the dominant team in that years. He also has good support from his teammates. Other teams are not that good and only a few teams are playing back on that years.

I'm not sure if we can consider that a hard era for him. It's just that he is a great player and will always be remembered.

His name was always heard if being GOAT depends on the number of winning titles as that was the most reason by GOAT debaters.
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July 31, 2022, 06:32:33 PM
Rest easy Bill Russell you're one hell of a player I or most of us admire, not because you got those rings but you're one of the reason that shape the NBA on what it is right now.

Just sad to hear that one of the legends of basketball has passed away. Majority of us didn't see how Bill Russell play, but sure we have some old videos on YT and of course, his magical run with the Boston Celtics will not be matched, I think that record will be untouchable - won 11 NBA championships.
Imagine you only played 13 seasons but you win 11 rings, that's really an untouchable record in the NBA and I doubt even in the next century to come would even beat that.
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July 31, 2022, 06:24:27 PM
Just sad to hear that one of the legends of basketball has passed away. Majority of us didn't see how Bill Russell play, but sure we have some old videos on YT and of course, his magical run with the Boston Celtics will not be matched, I think that record will be untouchable - won 11 NBA championships.

And not that only Russell is great in court, but during his prime, America was still in racial segregation. And he had fought very hard in that era, 50's-60's. For sure the whole Celtics organization are mourning the passing of the legend.

And early this year, his Game-worn, autographed Bill Russell jersey sells for $1 million.


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July 31, 2022, 06:20:04 PM
It's not only about the stats IMO, it's more about the impact in the team, and we cannot deny that without Draymond, the Warriors defense will struggle.

If it's about the impact and even stats are low, therefore there should be lots of players who deserved to be on the max contact.

My question to you is, please name a player that was given a max contract that doesn't have good stats but only an impact on a team.

Max contract does have requirements for one to be eligible. The impact is passive stats. It's not stated on the max contract terms to become eligible.
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July 31, 2022, 06:12:47 PM
It is terrible to learn Bill Russell passed away. If we need to feel any good about this, he came from nothing, lived 88 years, won 11 rings, he was there when Black people couldn't even eat in certain places, and lived through 2 terms of Obama being president, and he helped all the young kids that came in after him for 5 decades and he has fmvp named after him.

I know that it is always sad whenever one person passes away from this world, but if you were to ask someone if they would take his place? 99.999% of the population would say yes without a question, which tells me he lived a very filled life that was enjoyable and he passes away from that world knowing that he lived a great one that marked something major before he left it.
I have heard him before but I wasn't really a fan until I've heard his achievements and what he has got. He certainly is a legend and many have him inspired with his greatness and journey.

The whole NBA fandom is mourning every time a legend passes away, it's not just the fans but also the whole community and management. I guess 3-4 great generations of NBA that he has managed to go along with by my estimation or more than that.

Rest in peace, Bill!
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July 31, 2022, 06:10:17 PM
Wasn't it because KD knew he won't be playing with Irving that's why he requested the trade? Kyrie opted in to his over $30 million deal and expecting to be traded. Kevin asked the owner to be traded after that. It's more like he doesn't want to carry a heavy load so he runs and look for a better opportunity.

Definitely no but it's the other way around. He played with Kyrie last playoffs and they didn't even win once against the Boston Celtics in the playoffs. It means even if Kyrie Irving will stay on the team, he will still take and carry the heavy load. Their combination is not effective. There is also no help from the other Nets squad.

Kevin Durant is not the type of player that can carry a team. He is not the same as Steph Curry, Lebron James, or Giannis Antetokoumpo that is proven that can lift the team even if their teammates are not doing well in a game.
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July 31, 2022, 05:27:41 PM
Awww man, I reallly didn't want to go to bad knowing the legend passed away. I mean it surely is less of a shock than Kobe news, dude is 88, Kobe was 40, but these legends passing away is certainly a sad situation. We are coming to an age where we are going to keep seeing more and more of them passing aren't we? I mean basketball is certainly not something that is good for your health to begin with and reaching to 88 is a marvelous achievement. We already lost so many legends, and one of the biggest ever ones just passed away. I really damn hope we get to see our childhood ones a lot more at least, I am not ready for that yet.
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July 31, 2022, 05:15:48 PM
....But I don't think KD will want to stay in Brooklyn with Irving and Simmons. Brooklyn should prioritize trading these 2 drama queens and maybe KD will want to stay with them.
Wasn't it because KD knew he won't be playing with Irving that's why he requested the trade? Kyrie opted in to his over $30 million deal and expecting to be traded. Kevin asked the owner to be traded after that. It's more like he doesn't want to carry a heavy load so he runs and look for a better opportunity.

 
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July 31, 2022, 05:04:21 PM
It is terrible to learn Bill Russell passed away. If we need to feel any good about this, he came from nothing, lived 88 years, won 11 rings, he was there when Black people couldn't even eat in certain places, and lived through 2 terms of Obama being president, and he helped all the young kids that came in after him for 5 decades and he has fmvp named after him.

I know that it is always sad whenever one person passes away from this world, but if you were to ask someone if they would take his place? 99.999% of the population would say yes without a question, which tells me he lived a very filled life that was enjoyable and he passes away from that world knowing that he lived a great one that marked something major before he left it.
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July 31, 2022, 03:14:45 PM
So all of a sudden, Draymond Green becomes the center of attention the last few days. Now there's more. He wants a 4-year max contract extension. This means he will be paid $164 million for the next 5 years or around $33 million per year. His current contract would be $25.8 million for the next season and a player option worth $28.5 million in the following season. Draymond is too full of himself. Although he is a very important piece of the team, he is starting to decline with his low stats performance in the last season.

And Draymond also mentioned that he is willing to explore offers from other teams should the Warriors' management not be interested in a max contract extension. Do you guys think Draymond is worth that max extension? His current stats are not even worth his current contract if I were to say, but I got it, the management do not want to break the team's core.      

Due to their good chemistry, I think he deserves to have a max contract because he is a big part of the success of the Warriors. Though his performance has declined there are some games that he really contributes big to win. It's not only about the stats IMO, it's more about the impact in the team, and we cannot deny that without Draymond, the Warriors defense will struggle.
Draymond is one of the most confident people within the Warriors team and yeah, he's definitely a big part in the previous success of Warriors. So i guess its not impossible if he can have that max contract. After all, the team needs his potentials and without him as part of Warriors, that will be another loss of the team. Just imagine if he'll be playing in another team, then let's anticipate that Warriors will face another struggle to replace Green just as relevant as him.
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