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Quote from: vennali on July 01, 2022, 07:31:41 AM

I think Nets should go on a rebuilding journey again with Kyrie most likely traded and KD looking to opt out of contract as well. The could get future no. 1 picks and for now, just aim to get into playoffs. Could be a franchise defining move if they can find the next LeBron James.

Rebuilding? does not sound like the right word to use. With Durant, they won't be a different team because they have Simmons who is also a superstar, so this team is still going to be a playoff contender or a championship contender, and as long as Durant is healthy, this team will easily get into the playoffs.

Letting Irving go in exchange of more players, that will help them increase their depth and their rotation.

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I think Nets should go on a rebuilding journey again with Kyrie most likely traded and KD looking to opt out of contract as well. The could get future no. 1 picks and for now, just aim to get into playoffs. Could be a franchise defining move if they can find the next LeBron James.

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Quote from: harizen on June 30, 2022, 05:57:31 PM

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The drama will always attached to Ben Simmons, no matter where he goes, I mean the way he severed his ties with the Sixers that drag them for the whole season. So I guess it's more on the mentality of Ben now, no one can help him except himself. Durant could be a good mentor, but what if Ben is missing those free throws and becomes a liability then? So it will haunt him until he improved his free throws or even take a good shot outside so that he can silence his critics.

How can you say that Simmons will still be like that? It's just the first time he was traded to another team so what reference can we look at?

I would agree that this is the first time that we have seen him traded, but the way he severe his tie with his former team? doesn't sit well, even majority of us thinks that he has a problem.

Quote from: harizen on June 30, 2022, 05:57:31 PM

It does, that's another problem if Ben Simmons will still be like that while on the Brooklyn Nets. He likes that trade and really looks forwards to it. He gets rid of his problem already and he should be good now. New environment, new teammates, another start. I don't see any reason why he should make some drama again not unless another personal problems between him and one of his teammates occur.

Who knows, that how he was in the Sixers, even Joel and the coach has his back. But when he doesn't want to play anymore with them because of the criticism, then that's where the problem started. It's good that he got his wish, but this has set a precedent for him and his career.

Quote from: harizen on June 30, 2022, 05:57:31 PM

And don't worry. Steve Nash already has a good portfolio and experience dealing with a Diva. I think it's even hard to handle the other one compare to doing some good talks with Ben Simmons. The other one has lots of egos to deal with compared to Ben Simmons who I think just needs a new environment to play with.

Yeah, Harden is out already, KD opting to get out of his contract, Irving most likely will be traded as well. So not sure as well if that is a good portfolio as far as Nash handling this diva players.

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Quote from: Dart18 on July 01, 2022, 05:38:29 AM

Nets will surely make this worth the price. Someone big must be offered in exchange for him which I think is the hardest part.

Of course, Durant and Irving are a high-paid players and therefore it's a big value for them.

However, I don't think that the Nets would trade both superstars in one season only, I think maybe one of the two will be traded but the other one will remain to play with Simmons and still make the team a championship contender.

When it comes to the possibility on which player will be traded, I highly believe it will be Irving.

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Quote from: OgNasty on June 30, 2022, 02:45:48 PM

According to twitter KD has officially requested a trade from the Nets. They are saying this brings new life to the Kyrie to the Lakers rumors. I’ve gotta say, as far as drama goes the Nets have had things on lock. Hard to believe that Ben Simmons has been the drama free guy this off-season for them. People are saying KD to the Suns and Kyrie to the Lakers, but I sort of doubt either. I can’t imagine KD doing more ring chasing at this point in his career, but you never know…

I just finished reading about this. https://www.nba.com/news/reports-kevin-durant-requests-trade-from-nets
This is big! NBA owners may now be trying hard opening a cap space for him. That guy is a magnet of fans and bandwagons will surely follow him wherever he drops. Any team will have their ticket sales increased and so are their memorabilias.

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However, Wojnarowski also reports the Nets are seeking a trade that allows them the greatest return of assets and have reportedly been approached by half the teams in the NBA as to what it would take to acquire Durant.

Nets will surely make this worth the price. Someone big must be offered in exchange for him which I think is the hardest part.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 01, 2022, 01:04:33 AM

How about Karl-Anthony Towns signing a 4 year deal for 56 million per year? That’s crazy money. I’m not sure KAT is worth that much considering he’s never really won anything and he seemed jealous of their new addition Anthony Edwards, who some think to be the team’s best player. I think this contract is going to really hurt them going forward, but they must have felt it was necessary. That’s crazy money though. About 20 million per year more than he is probably worth.

It's good though, I mean he become their franchise player, won a 3 point shootout last year and then have a good season. Time to reward him with this kind of money. Him and Edwards seems to blend more, D'Lo though might be their problem. I'm seeing that they are going to trade Russell and build around KAT and Edwards for the future. Hopefully, KAT can compensate them next season by bringing them into the playoffs again and get past the first round.

He is a versatile big man, I think he is one of the best big man in the NBA now, better than Jokic (IMO), so I think he really deserves that huge contract. It's a shame if they will not give him a max contract, he might be stolen by other team, and if Lebron gets him and dump Davis, that would make the Lakers a championship team.

This is why he deserve that huge contract he get and for sure if Nuggets didn't give this huge offer for sure there are other teams can offer the same contract he gets. Its not shame for him if Nuggets will not give them a max contract to Jokic but rather its a huge loss for them knowing how big the contribution he can bring also I believe Nuggets will not be a good contender if Jokic will be out of there picture and go to another team.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on July 01, 2022, 04:15:25 AM

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 01, 2022, 01:04:33 AM

How about Karl-Anthony Towns signing a 4 year deal for 56 million per year? That’s crazy money. I’m not sure KAT is worth that much considering he’s never really won anything and he seemed jealous of their new addition Anthony Edwards, who some think to be the team’s best player. I think this contract is going to really hurt them going forward, but they must have felt it was necessary. That’s crazy money though. About 20 million per year more than he is probably worth.

It's good though, I mean he become their franchise player, won a 3 point shootout last year and then have a good season. Time to reward him with this kind of money. Him and Edwards seems to blend more, D'Lo though might be their problem. I'm seeing that they are going to trade Russell and build around KAT and Edwards for the future. Hopefully, KAT can compensate them next season by bringing them into the playoffs again and get past the first round.

He is a versatile big man, I think he is one of the best big man in the NBA now, better than Jokic (IMO), so I think he really deserves that huge contract. It's a shame if they will not give him a max contract, he might be stolen by other team, and if Lebron gets him and dump Davis, that would make the Lakers a championship team.

Yes, I agree with that, he is one of the best big men but currently, the best big man is Jokic because he won back-to-back MVP and his team has a better ranking compared to the Wolves. It's not only about individual talent but also your impact to the team, and Jokic has been consistent with providing the team's expectation on him.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 01, 2022, 01:04:33 AM

How about Karl-Anthony Towns signing a 4 year deal for 56 million per year? That’s crazy money. I’m not sure KAT is worth that much considering he’s never really won anything and he seemed jealous of their new addition Anthony Edwards, who some think to be the team’s best player. I think this contract is going to really hurt them going forward, but they must have felt it was necessary. That’s crazy money though. About 20 million per year more than he is probably worth.

It's good though, I mean he become their franchise player, won a 3 point shootout last year and then have a good season. Time to reward him with this kind of money. Him and Edwards seems to blend more, D'Lo though might be their problem. I'm seeing that they are going to trade Russell and build around KAT and Edwards for the future. Hopefully, KAT can compensate them next season by bringing them into the playoffs again and get past the first round.

He is a versatile big man, I think he is one of the best big man in the NBA now, better than Jokic (IMO), so I think he really deserves that huge contract. It's a shame if they will not give him a max contract, he might be stolen by other team, and if Lebron gets him and dump Davis, that would make the Lakers a championship team.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 01, 2022, 01:04:33 AM

How about Karl-Anthony Towns signing a 4 year deal for 56 million per year? That’s crazy money. I’m not sure KAT is worth that much considering he’s never really won anything and he seemed jealous of their new addition Anthony Edwards, who some think to be the team’s best player. I think this contract is going to really hurt them going forward, but they must have felt it was necessary. That’s crazy money though. About 20 million per year more than he is probably worth.

It's good though, I mean he become their franchise player, won a 3 point shootout last year and then have a good season. Time to reward him with this kind of money. Him and Edwards seems to blend more, D'Lo though might be their problem. I'm seeing that they are going to trade Russell and build around KAT and Edwards for the future. Hopefully, KAT can compensate them next season by bringing them into the playoffs again and get past the first round.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 30, 2022, 06:58:28 PM

anyone talk about this trade? Spurs trade Dejounte Murray to Hawks for Danilo Gallinari, 3 first-rounders.

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Hawks receive:

• Dejounte Murray
• Jock Landale

Spurs receive:

• Danilo Gallinari
• 2023 first-round pick (via Charlotte from New York, protected)
• 2025 first-round pick
• 2026 pick swap
• 2027 first-round pick

Who won in this trade?

Hawks won on this trade, no doubt about that. But that is for this season run and I think the Spurs will start rebuilding. I just don't understand why they would sacrifice Murray who is a rising star. Perhaps there is nothing better to offer, that's why.
Spurs may be pushing to do the same as Houston Rocket did. Lean on the drafts and maybe they will find gems to polish and have a new trio that will take them back to the championship.

I think the only reason is that they can't offer Murray a max if his contract expires, so it's better for them to trade it at this point and yes, sacrifice help to rebuild the team with those future first-round picks. It's a huge gamble, but if you look at it, might be a good decision after all. They might find a gem as you have said, and I think Danilo might be another trade bait too in the future.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 01, 2022, 01:04:33 AM

How about Karl-Anthony Towns signing a 4 year deal for 56 million per year? That’s crazy money. I’m not sure KAT is worth that much considering he’s never really won anything and he seemed jealous of their new addition Anthony Edwards, who some think to be the team’s best player. I think this contract is going to really hurt them going forward, but they must have felt it was necessary. That’s crazy money though. About 20 million per year more than he is probably worth.

That's a huge amount though he improves last season but I also agree that it was Edwards who brings more explosions.

We don't exactly know what the managements is thinking about this offer, the cap for this team will be more limited, what if Edwards
will receive a much higher offer and the team is already on their max, unless they are willing to pay more. But personally, I don't see that
much value for this big guy, better to use and maximize their budget in acquiring more role players.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 30, 2022, 06:58:28 PM

anyone talk about this trade? Spurs trade Dejounte Murray to Hawks for Danilo Gallinari, 3 first-rounders.

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Hawks receive:

• Dejounte Murray
• Jock Landale

Spurs receive:

• Danilo Gallinari
• 2023 first-round pick (via Charlotte from New York, protected)
• 2025 first-round pick
• 2026 pick swap
• 2027 first-round pick

Who won in this trade?

Hawks won on this trade, no doubt about that. But that is for this season run and I think the Spurs will start rebuilding. I just don't understand why they would sacrifice Murray who is a rising star. Perhaps there is nothing better to offer, that's why.
Spurs may be pushing to do the same as Houston Rocket did. Lean on the drafts and maybe they will find gems to polish and have a new trio that will take them back to the championship.

Quote from: OgNasty on July 01, 2022, 01:04:33 AM

How about Karl-Anthony Towns signing a 4 year deal for 56 million per year? That’s crazy money. I’m not sure KAT is worth that much considering he’s never really won anything and he seemed jealous of their new addition Anthony Edwards, who some think to be the team’s best player. I think this contract is going to really hurt them going forward, but they must have felt it was necessary. That’s crazy money though. About 20 million per year more than he is probably worth.

He is young, more to prove. About the contract, yeah I think it's too much. The run to the playoffs might've something to do about this. But, imo, that money should've been kept for Edwards because it's true he will be their best player soon.

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How about Karl-Anthony Towns signing a 4 year deal for 56 million per year? That’s crazy money. I’m not sure KAT is worth that much considering he’s never really won anything and he seemed jealous of their new addition Anthony Edwards, who some think to be the team’s best player. I think this contract is going to really hurt them going forward, but they must have felt it was necessary. That’s crazy money though. About 20 million per year more than he is probably worth.

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My favourite team in NBA are currently Brooklyn Nets. It depends on what team Durant goes to actually. Grin

However Nets haven't been doing very well for a long time. They have made signings like Seth Curry and Ben Simmons to change the starting five a little. Because they weren't playing that much well before. Seth Curry adapted to the team and started performing nicely. I hope to see his contribution getting bigger next season. However I have big doubts about Ben Simmons. He has had a lasting injury and I don't know how strong he will be able to perform by next season.

I was hoping this time there would be no more drama from Ben Simmons. That's what I want to see and help out Durant posting more wins for the Brooklyn Nets. This will prove if the Nets management really made a good decision in that recent trade for James Harden. The unanswered question was if the Nets knew about that back issue of Ben that had been coming back over and over. I hope they did.
Seth Curry is the big bonus from that trade though, that brother could make it rain 3's sometimes but his strength really comes from his defense. I wish they could maximize that.

The drama will always attached to Ben Simmons, no matter where he goes, I mean the way he severed his ties with the Sixers that drag them for the whole season. So I guess it's more on the mentality of Ben now, no one can help him except himself. Durant could be a good mentor, but what if Ben is missing those free throws and becomes a liability then? So it will haunt him until he improved his free throws or even take a good shot outside so that he can silence his critics.

If Ben can bring that hatred into an inspiration to keep improving his skills and talent, he is still young and there are

many potential enhancement and improvement in his career, maturing is very important not being affected by any critics should
be the thing that he and his agent have to overcome. After all, he will continue to receive a paycheck as long as he is present during the practice and during the game, win or lose, there's no change that will happen to his salaries.

This is always the problem of NBA Star due to tough competition which even fans extent there support to there own favorite player and team that result to personally attacking players that they didn’t like. This pressure is also the reason why many star player fall and never get up there game to there best. This is part of NBA player and playing inside the court is such a good opportunity to them already. I really hope the Ben will overcome his personal problem because he has a lot of contribution that can be given to Nets if he get back to his feet again. I doubt that he can make it instantly but this is a work in progress and maybe we can see him around this season properly.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on June 30, 2022, 07:16:19 PM

If Durant, LeBron, and Irving were on the same team, it would be the most dominant trio of the last decade. Although I doubt the Lakers will be able to pull off such a crazy deal. It seems more realistic to me that Durant might be traded for Booker and other Suns players. In any case, we will definitely see some big deals this offseason, given that many interesting rumors are popping up right now.

That's an amazing twist if they can really make things work when they are playing on the court especially Irving with Lebron because these two have already proved that they are means championship since they didn't only bring the team to the finals one time but multiple times and they won 1 time which was the great thing to have. Now that they gonna have a chance to be together if the rumor is right, Lebron and Durant can retire peacefully with the Lakers if they managed to build strong chemistry playing together.

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There are rumors that the Lakers and Nets are working to finalize a deal. Supposedly it will be KD and Kyrie for AD and Westbrook plus a few picks and some $$$. This seems like an insane rumor but there are reports that they are close to a deal. KD and LeBron together would be something else. If that happens I’ll definitely be seeing a few Lakers games live next year. It would be the greatest pairing since Shaq and Kobe.

If Durant, LeBron, and Irving were on the same team, it would be the most dominant trio of the last decade. Although I doubt the Lakers will be able to pull off such a crazy deal. It seems more realistic to me that Durant might be traded for Booker and other Suns players. In any case, we will definitely see some big deals this offseason, given that many interesting rumors are popping up right now.

I think if there is a suitor for Kyrie (and reports it is only one, the Lakers, because of Kyrie's history), then it will only be Lebron and Kyrie again and I don't think they are going to include AD in this trade, perhaps it it will be like Westbrook for Kyrie exchange.

And for Durant, Phoenix is the name that keeps popping up in the media that most likely Durant will move. As for who is the player, maybe Booker or Ayton.

Lots of rumors about the trade and we really can't conclude if what's the package that surrounds those trades, the names attached

is no longer on their primes and does have either injury or an attitude concerns, Personally, if AD+WB to KD+Kyrie Lakers will have a better

take. LeBron can handle Kyrie while I'm not sure about AD if he can develop good chemistry with WB and the rest of Nets squad. They

both in the same uniform but didn't play that long together.

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According to twitter KD has officially requested a trade from the Nets. They are saying this brings new life to the Kyrie to the Lakers rumors. I’ve gotta say, as far as drama goes the Nets have had things on lock. Hard to believe that Ben Simmons has been the drama free guy this off-season for them. People are saying KD to the Suns and Kyrie to the Lakers, but I sort of doubt either. I can’t imagine KD doing more ring chasing at this point in his career, but you never know…

Lots of smoke on the KD to the Suns trade, Ayton+Bridges + 1 or 2 future draft picks? well that's what has been circulating. So KD+Booker might be good, but KD+CP3? hmm, that ego in the locker room will be so huge, hehehe

I think KD is doing one more ring chase, needs another one to make it 3 for him. However, the question though, is he a bus rider or the bus driver?

anyone talk about this trade? Spurs trade Dejounte Murray to Hawks for Danilo Gallinari, 3 first-rounders.

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Hawks receive:

• Dejounte Murray
• Jock Landale

Spurs receive:

• Danilo Gallinari
• 2023 first-round pick (via Charlotte from New York, protected)
• 2025 first-round pick
• 2026 pick swap
• 2027 first-round pick

Who won in this trade?

I think in the long term, if will be the Spurs who is going to win with that tone of first round pick in the future. We all know that they have a keen eye of picking players, we've seen in already.

However, if we look at the current, Murray with Trae Young will be a huge combo. It will lift a lot of lot on Trae's shoulder as he has someone to help him in scoring, and then Murray a good defender too. So it depends on how you look at the trade, short and long term goals by either of the team, so I would say both and Atlanta will see the fruits early on.

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Quote from: OgNasty on June 30, 2022, 05:55:57 PM

There are rumors that the Lakers and Nets are working to finalize a deal. Supposedly it will be KD and Kyrie for AD and Westbrook plus a few picks and some $$$. This seems like an insane rumor but there are reports that they are close to a deal. KD and LeBron together would be something else. If that happens I’ll definitely be seeing a few Lakers games live next year. It would be the greatest pairing since Shaq and Kobe.

If Durant, LeBron, and Irving were on the same team, it would be the most dominant trio of the last decade. Although I doubt the Lakers will be able to pull off such a crazy deal. It seems more realistic to me that Durant might be traded for Booker and other Suns players. In any case, we will definitely see some big deals this offseason, given that many interesting rumors are popping up right now.

I think if there is a suitor for Kyrie (and reports it is only one, the Lakers, because of Kyrie's history), then it will only be Lebron and Kyrie again and I don't think they are going to include AD in this trade, perhaps it it will be like Westbrook for Kyrie exchange.

And for Durant, Phoenix is the name that keeps popping up in the media that most likely Durant will move. As for who is the player, maybe Booker or Ayton.

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Quote from: OgNasty on June 30, 2022, 05:55:57 PM

There are rumors that the Lakers and Nets are working to finalize a deal. Supposedly it will be KD and Kyrie for AD and Westbrook plus a few picks and some $$$. This seems like an insane rumor but there are reports that they are close to a deal. KD and LeBron together would be something else. If that happens I’ll definitely be seeing a few Lakers games live next year. It would be the greatest pairing since Shaq and Kobe.

If Durant, LeBron, and Irving were on the same team, it would be the most dominant trio of the last decade. Although I doubt the Lakers will be able to pull off such a crazy deal. It seems more realistic to me that Durant might be traded for Booker and other Suns players. In any case, we will definitely see some big deals this offseason, given that many interesting rumors are popping up right now.

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Quote from: OgNasty on June 30, 2022, 02:45:48 PM

According to twitter KD has officially requested a trade from the Nets. They are saying this brings new life to the Kyrie to the Lakers rumors. I’ve gotta say, as far as drama goes the Nets have had things on lock. Hard to believe that Ben Simmons has been the drama free guy this off-season for them. People are saying KD to the Suns and Kyrie to the Lakers, but I sort of doubt either. I can’t imagine KD doing more ring chasing at this point in his career, but you never know…

Lots of smoke on the KD to the Suns trade, Ayton+Bridges + 1 or 2 future draft picks? well that's what has been circulating. So KD+Booker might be good, but KD+CP3? hmm, that ego in the locker room will be so huge, hehehe

I think KD is doing one more ring chase, needs another one to make it 3 for him. However, the question though, is he a bus rider or the bus driver?

anyone talk about this trade? Spurs trade Dejounte Murray to Hawks for Danilo Gallinari, 3 first-rounders.

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Hawks receive:

• Dejounte Murray
• Jock Landale

Spurs receive:

• Danilo Gallinari
• 2023 first-round pick (via Charlotte from New York, protected)
• 2025 first-round pick
• 2026 pick swap
• 2027 first-round pick

Who won in this trade?

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