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Quote from: wheelz1200 on April 05, 2022, 10:08:35 AM

Trading Westbrook is going to be next to impossible. They will either have to take on a longer contract for a player some other team doesn't want or package WB with young talent and/or draft capital so that another team will take on Westbrooks contract. Either way Lakers are in a lose/lose situation.

Certainly. Stats base he is down by a high percentage. His shooting is also unacceptable but he still have the agility to attack the paint which we can still witness up until now. Teams on the lower seeds now will just risk it with the draft for a younger player and not expensive rather than an old one with his contract intact.
A good comparison of a difference is CP3 and WB. Both do not have a championship yet and with high stats on their prime but I think most team owners would pick the former. Even OKC did great when CP3 was inserted in it and even went to the playoffs with no chemistry whatsoever just the leadership.

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No. It's people who created a lot of expectations for them. Did they say they will be in the Finals this season prior to opening? Did they say they will be the champion this season? There are lots of people who put good expectations on them without realizing that most part of their roster is already past their prime and seem old to compete except for an aging Lebron James.

Yes, they will come back next season but they have to remove and replace those things that are necessary to remove. Vogel is a pain in the ass and doesn't know how to make effective plays. He is just relying on Lebron too lol.

That's a fact, most fans created a huge expectation with this current Lakers roster (including me), that's clear, most fans were already imagining a final between Lakers and Nets.

Basketball is a box of chocolates, anything can happen. Including Lakers' with poor performance, several players injured during the regular season and there was not that chemistry that "everybody" expected with this ""Dream Team" of the Lakers.

The writing was on the wall with the Lakers from day one. They constructed the oldest team they could which in nba doesn't work need young legs out there. If this was 2015 this team would have been amazing but unfortunately it's not lol. This team was injuries waiting to happen. The x factor was russ which was always gonna be a bad fit with lebron and AD even though ad never really played. With those 2 you need off ball shooters and defenders. GM should be the one who should go. Vogel was set up to fail to begin with.

Lakers should have stayed with the old roster that won them a championship. Trading a bunch of players for Westbrook turns out a bad idea. Now, their season is over (although not officially) and they need to make changes for the next season, and I'm guessing that WB will be traded again.

Trading Westbrook is going to be next to impossible. They will either have to take on a longer contract for a player some other team doesn't want or package WB with young talent and/or draft capital so that another team will take on Westbrooks contract. Either way Lakers are in a lose/lose situation.

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Quote from: hollandalibaykus on April 05, 2022, 02:06:02 AM

The Golden State Warriors continue to show that the team can do something without Curry who beat the Sacramento Kings without difficulty and won their second straight win. This team can perform very well when the playoff time comes and be one of the biggest candidates for the championship it will be nice to watch

I don't know if this is conclusive, but we can't rush into these last few games

I'm not belittling the team, but the Warriors will only be tested if they play against a team of excellent quality, or even in the first rounds of the playoffs.
If the team progresses without Curry, yes, we can conclude the GSW are mature and good enough to be a competitive team without Curry.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on April 05, 2022, 08:26:18 AM

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 04, 2022, 06:45:04 PM

No. It's people who created a lot of expectations for them. Did they say they will be in the Finals this season prior to opening? Did they say they will be the champion this season? There are lots of people who put good expectations on them without realizing that most part of their roster is already past their prime and seem old to compete except for an aging Lebron James.

Yes, they will come back next season but they have to remove and replace those things that are necessary to remove. Vogel is a pain in the ass and doesn't know how to make effective plays. He is just relying on Lebron too lol.

That's a fact, most fans created a huge expectation with this current Lakers roster (including me), that's clear, most fans were already imagining a final between Lakers and Nets.

Basketball is a box of chocolates, anything can happen. Including Lakers' with poor performance, several players injured during the regular season and there was not that chemistry that "everybody" expected with this ""Dream Team" of the Lakers.

The writing was on the wall with the Lakers from day one. They constructed the oldest team they could which in nba doesn't work need young legs out there. If this was 2015 this team would have been amazing but unfortunately it's not lol. This team was injuries waiting to happen. The x factor was russ which was always gonna be a bad fit with lebron and AD even though ad never really played. With those 2 you need off ball shooters and defenders. GM should be the one who should go. Vogel was set up to fail to begin with.

The experimental X factor Russ didn't work, and you're right he just don't fit with LeBron and AD. Plus, the Lakers didn't become complete as a roster even once this whole season. AD just became worse and hopeless. It's pointless for them to pursue the playoffs, they should better rest and let the bench warmers finish the season.
The Lakers has zero chance on winning the power house teams in the West even If they make it to the 8th spot.

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No. It's people who created a lot of expectations for them. Did they say they will be in the Finals this season prior to opening? Did they say they will be the champion this season? There are lots of people who put good expectations on them without realizing that most part of their roster is already past their prime and seem old to compete except for an aging Lebron James.

Yes, they will come back next season but they have to remove and replace those things that are necessary to remove. Vogel is a pain in the ass and doesn't know how to make effective plays. He is just relying on Lebron too lol.

That's a fact, most fans created a huge expectation with this current Lakers roster (including me), that's clear, most fans were already imagining a final between Lakers and Nets.

Basketball is a box of chocolates, anything can happen. Including Lakers' with poor performance, several players injured during the regular season and there was not that chemistry that "everybody" expected with this ""Dream Team" of the Lakers.

The writing was on the wall with the Lakers from day one. They constructed the oldest team they could which in nba doesn't work need young legs out there. If this was 2015 this team would have been amazing but unfortunately it's not lol. This team was injuries waiting to happen. The x factor was russ which was always gonna be a bad fit with lebron and AD even though ad never really played. With those 2 you need off ball shooters and defenders. GM should be the one who should go. Vogel was set up to fail to begin with.

Lakers should have stayed with the old roster that won them a championship. Trading a bunch of players for Westbrook turns out a bad idea. Now, their season is over (although not officially) and they need to make changes for the next season, and I'm guessing that WB will be traded again.

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 04, 2022, 06:45:04 PM

No. It's people who created a lot of expectations for them. Did they say they will be in the Finals this season prior to opening? Did they say they will be the champion this season? There are lots of people who put good expectations on them without realizing that most part of their roster is already past their prime and seem old to compete except for an aging Lebron James.

Yes, they will come back next season but they have to remove and replace those things that are necessary to remove. Vogel is a pain in the ass and doesn't know how to make effective plays. He is just relying on Lebron too lol.

That's a fact, most fans created a huge expectation with this current Lakers roster (including me), that's clear, most fans were already imagining a final between Lakers and Nets.

Basketball is a box of chocolates, anything can happen. Including Lakers' with poor performance, several players injured during the regular season and there was not that chemistry that "everybody" expected with this ""Dream Team" of the Lakers.

The writing was on the wall with the Lakers from day one. They constructed the oldest team they could which in nba doesn't work need young legs out there. If this was 2015 this team would have been amazing but unfortunately it's not lol. This team was injuries waiting to happen. The x factor was russ which was always gonna be a bad fit with lebron and AD even though ad never really played. With those 2 you need off ball shooters and defenders. GM should be the one who should go. Vogel was set up to fail to begin with.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on April 05, 2022, 04:27:54 AM

^^ Yeah, I think there is still some revenge in this game and the Warriors wanted to eliminate James for good and not give them any chance this year.

Plus, Klay has found his touch together with Jordan Poole and Draymond is back so this is going to be fun. And it seems that the Lakers are giving up, so the chance of Warriors to win even at double digit handicap is huge.

But we need to see the consistency from Klay Thompson first before we could say his touch is really back just like old times. Against the Suns, he shoot 1/10 from deep and that's the worst I have seen him play. 5/21 field goals in 34 minutes, he is not even helping at all unlike what Curry did when he is off night. He doesn't shoot that much knowing it will be a miss and just became a point guard who facilitates and scrambles the defense of the opposing team with his off the ball movements.
They may have win against the Kings but the struggle is there without Curry running everywhere.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on April 05, 2022, 04:27:54 AM

^^ Yeah, I think there is still some revenge in this game and the Warriors wanted to eliminate James for good and not give them any chance this year.

Plus, Klay has found his touch together with Jordan Poole and Draymond is back so this is going to be fun. And it seems that the Lakers are giving up, so the chance of Warriors to win even at double digit handicap is huge.

Klay's impact with their offense, and Green in their defense influenced the whole team. It's nice seeing them back in good shape.

Let see if how they will handle the Lakers. The chance is slim for the play-in tournament and each remaining games are important

if Lakers still aiming to move to the next round. GSW would have their revenge after losing last season with that miracle 3-point shot

by LeBron.

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The Lakers are done for this season, there's no way that they can make it to the playoff, so sorry for the Lakers fans. Another rebuilding will happen next year and for sure majority of the players will be gone.

It's really unfortunate how the teams turn out to be this season, in the beginning they are one of the favorite, but it was obvious that there are some problems even before the regular games.

They still have a small chance if Spurs lose all there remaining games while Lakers will win all there last games. But this is very hard to happened since they will both fight same teams that is on the top seed of there division. I agree that they should focus on rebuilding there roster for next rather than risk again there health for a very crucial for a just a small chance to get a spot. They should start removing excess baggage in there roster.

You have said it already. Its almost impossible to happen especially now that the remaining games of the Lakers will be tough and maybe include Lebron's injury as well. That reasons is enough to say that the Lakers are really done for this season.

Now that we know that they will not enter the play-in or playoff this season, maybe lets just focus more on predicting what will be the next moves of the Lakers. Will they trade Westbrook? Will they trade Davis? Will Lebron stay on the Lakers? Will they change coach or the whole management?.

More likely it will be the head of the coach that will go first, and then Westbrook, and Carmelo. Hopefully though they retain the services of Howard because he can still contribute and compliment Davis in the middle. Malik Monk is also doing good, however, disappointment on THT, Lakers doesn't want him to be included in the trade before, but it seems he will be gone next season because of his performance this year.

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Quote from: TravelMug on April 04, 2022, 09:33:33 PM

The Lakers are done for this season, there's no way that they can make it to the playoff, so sorry for the Lakers fans. Another rebuilding will happen next year and for sure majority of the players will be gone.

It's really unfortunate how the teams turn out to be this season, in the beginning they are one of the favorite, but it was obvious that there are some problems even before the regular games.

They still have a small chance if Spurs lose all there remaining games while Lakers will win all there last games. But this is very hard to happened since they will both fight same teams that is on the top seed of there division. I agree that they should focus on rebuilding there roster for next rather than risk again there health for a very crucial for a just a small chance to get a spot. They should start removing excess baggage in there roster.

You have said it already. Its almost impossible to happen especially now that the remaining games of the Lakers will be tough and maybe include Lebron's injury as well. That reasons is enough to say that the Lakers are really done for this season.

Now that we know that they will not enter the play-in or playoff this season, maybe lets just focus more on predicting what will be the next moves of the Lakers. Will they trade Westbrook? Will they trade Davis? Will Lebron stay on the Lakers? Will they change coach or the whole management?.

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^^ Yeah, I think there is still some revenge in this game and the Warriors wanted to eliminate James for good and not give them any chance this year.

Plus, Klay has found his touch together with Jordan Poole and Draymond is back so this is going to be fun. And it seems that the Lakers are giving up, so the chance of Warriors to win even at double digit handicap is huge.

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The Golden State Warriors continue to show that the team can do something without Curry who beat the Sacramento Kings without difficulty and won their second straight win. This team can perform very well when the playoff time comes and be one of the biggest candidates for the championship it will be nice to watch

But the Kings are one of the cellar dweller so it doesn't show the full strength of the Warriors. They've lost 3 straight if I'm not mistaken, very close one to the Wizards, Grizzlies and the Suns before winning against the Jazz and the Kings. So they still need Curry to be healthy in the playoff and it will be interesting as to who are they going to face in the first round.

Yeah, the trade with the Pacers has something to do with that. The Kings were better with Tyrese Haliburton facilitating especially when DeAaron Fox is injured. Most fans are shocked by that trade but I think the Kings' management wants to focus on the fragile Fox and at the same time not spend too much money. Grin

But now they are a wrecked team with Sabonis and Holmes also injured. There's no way they could keep up with a Warriors team that relies on speed.

April 8. Warriors vs Lakers. It will be so much fun. Last year they kicked GSW out in the play-in, now they can deliver their revenge.

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Quote from: hollandalibaykus on April 05, 2022, 02:06:02 AM

The Golden State Warriors continue to show that the team can do something without Curry who beat the Sacramento Kings without difficulty and won their second straight win. This team can perform very well when the playoff time comes and be one of the biggest candidates for the championship it will be nice to watch

But the Kings are one of the cellar dweller so it doesn't show the full strength of the Warriors. They've lost 3 straight if I'm not mistaken, very close one to the Wizards, Grizzlies and the Suns before winning against the Jazz and the Kings. So they still need Curry to be healthy in the playoff and it will be interesting as to who are they going to face in the first round.

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The Golden State Warriors continue to show that the team can do something without Curry who beat the Sacramento Kings without difficulty and won their second straight win. This team can perform very well when the playoff time comes and be one of the biggest candidates for the championship it will be nice to watch

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 04, 2022, 06:45:04 PM

No. It's people who created a lot of expectations for them. Did they say they will be in the Finals this season prior to opening? Did they say they will be the champion this season? There are lots of people who put good expectations on them without realizing that most part of their roster is already past their prime and seem old to compete except for an aging Lebron James.

Yes, they will come back next season but they have to remove and replace those things that are necessary to remove. Vogel is a pain in the ass and doesn't know how to make effective plays. He is just relying on Lebron too lol.

That's a fact, most fans created a huge expectation with this current Lakers roster (including me), that's clear, most fans were already imagining a final between Lakers and Nets.

Basketball is a box of chocolates, anything can happen. Including Lakers' with poor performance, several players injured during the regular season and there was not that chemistry that "everybody" expected with this ""Dream Team" of the Lakers.

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I also agree, unfortunately the Lakers did not have that expected performance, they created a lot of expectation and there was no retribution from the team.
The Lakers had no chemistry among the players, they had problems with Frank Vogel and others things, the various injuries that the players suffered during the regular season, for me was the main reason!

No. It's people who created a lot of expectations for them. Did they say they will be in the Finals this season prior to opening? Did they say they will be the champion this season? There are lots of people who put good expectations on them without realizing that most part of their roster is already past their prime and seem old to compete except for an aging Lebron James.

Yes, they will come back next season but they have to remove and replace those things that are necessary to remove. Vogel is a pain in the ass and doesn't know how to make effective plays. He is just relying on Lebron too lol.

The issue is that Anthony Davis can't ever stay healthy. Sure Russell Westbrook is getting older but there were still justifiable expectations that he would be able to at least play decently enough to help out two of the top ten players in the league in Lebron James and Anthony Davis. I do agree they need to make some adjustments. They need a few different pieces as this roster constructions just isn't working out.

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The Lakers are done for this season, there's no way that they can make it to the playoff, so sorry for the Lakers fans. Another rebuilding will happen next year and for sure majority of the players will be gone.

It's really unfortunate how the teams turn out to be this season, in the beginning they are one of the favorite, but it was obvious that there are some problems even before the regular games.

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Quote from: gagux123 on April 04, 2022, 04:59:17 PM

I also agree, unfortunately the Lakers did not have that expected performance, they created a lot of expectation and there was no retribution from the team.
The Lakers had no chemistry among the players, they had problems with Frank Vogel and others things, the various injuries that the players suffered during the regular season, for me was the main reason!

No. It's people who created a lot of expectations for them. Did they say they will be in the Finals this season prior to opening? Did they say they will be the champion this season? There are lots of people who put good expectations on them without realizing that most part of their roster is already past their prime and seem old to compete except for an aging Lebron James.

Yes, they will come back next season but they have to remove and replace those things that are necessary to remove. Vogel is a pain in the ass and doesn't know how to make effective plays. He is just relying on Lebron too lol.

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The Lakers are sure goodbye now for the play-in chances.

They have lost 6 in a row. They have 4 games remaining which are against the Suns, Warriors, Thunder & Nuggets, and mandatorily and necessary, they have to win it all. And for let's say, the luck comes to them and wins it all, they also need the Spurs to lose 3 of their last 4 games against Nuggets, Timberwolves, Warriors & Mavericks. It means if the Lakers were able to do their best in their remaining games, they also have to expect the Spurs to lose their 3 remaining games which are beyond their control.

And if luck still comes to them and that scenario above happened, they will face the Pelicans in their first play-in which they lose previously on this team.

And if luck still comes to them and they beat the Pelicans, they will face either the Clippers or Timberwolves next to secure the 8th spot, and again, they are also struggling against this team.

And if luck still comes to them and they made it to the playoffs, Phoenix Suns are waiving for them.

The bottom line is, the Lakers need all the LUCK they can get to have a miracle. Cheesy

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on April 04, 2022, 04:15:22 PM

While Lakers are continuing to lose in the regular season, Spurs continue to win also. The last two games of these teams were exactly like this I mean. In their last game, Lakers had a home game against Nuggets. Lebron wasn't able to play due to ankle injury. But actually Lakers did a great job until the beginning of the last quarter. They were only one point behind against their very tough opponent. But in the last quarter, Nuggets started taking control of the game and won by 129-118. Lakers will most probably be out of the playoffs for this season.

I also agree, unfortunately the Lakers did not have that expected performance, they created a lot of expectation and there was no retribution from the team.
The Lakers had no chemistry among the players, they had problems with Frank Vogel and others things, the various injuries that the players suffered during the regular season, for me was the main reason!

I hope in the next season, Los Angeles Lakers come more prepared! I will be in the crowd and waiting for Lakers return's.

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