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Quote from: magneto on March 31, 2022, 05:34:53 PM

I'd rather have the Spurs get into the playoffs rather than the Lakers. The Lakers are too old and too washed up to make a difference.

If ever the Lakers got into the playoffs and pass the play-in, they will probably face the Phoenix Suns in the First Round.

We might see a replay of their embarrassing loss like what happened last year. They don't have an answer against the dominance of the Phoenix Suns. In other words, it might be a sweep, and the Lakers, especially LeBron will be again facing some negative comments adding to his portfolio of 0-4 First Round Playoffs exit.

The Lakers just have to be ready next season. It's fine to lose. They did their best after all.

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Quote from: OgNasty on March 31, 2022, 12:10:04 PM

A good night for basketball... I hope LeBron is back.

Lebron James is listed as OUT on that game that's why we can see it everywhere, especially in the basketball discussion community that the Lakers are now done for. They have a tough schedule on their remaining games which I think, it's only against OKC where they can establish a win out of 7 remaining games.

San Antonio Spurs have a chance to take advantage of their next two games against a much weaker Portland Trail Blazers. If they won those 2 games that's already an advantage for them to pass the Lakers.

Without Lebron, the Lakers will be a practice game for the Utah Jazz but I make a bet for the Lakers on this game, a final one maybe.

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I think Lakers main problem is that they bringed Westbrook with such a high salary and spilled more wins then he gaved. He dosent give anything good to Lakers and if Lakers want to do something next season they need to get rid of him and bring some fresh new players

We can clearly see now that Westbrook is a failed experiment. They thought "strengthening" their starting line up would be good while trading most of their supporting cast. Who do you see as a trade potential for him? There were rumors of WB and Lillard before bit I don't think it would make much of a difference.

Let's look clearly at the Lakers' situation this season. When Russell Westbrook is playing good, the Lakers' winning rate is above 85%. The problem is not about Westbrook alone but how Vogel gives time to his players. Since he was experimenting, he didn't make some reshuffling to the players' rotation until he got the right mix. Sometimes Vogel always uses most of his players for the first time in the second half or late 1st half. The fuel of that player is still cold since he didn't allow those players to play early to pump their adrenalin.

The Lakers need to trade Anthony Davis, not Russell Westbrook. Change the coaching staff, especially the head coach. I'd rather trade an injury-prone compared for a player that trying their best to win even how hard it is amid lots of negative criticism.

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Quote from: dezoel on March 31, 2022, 04:56:17 PM

I would say that if they have to play in the playin tournament, then they do not really have to play there at all. We all know that Lakers wouldn't be suddenly playing from 10th seed and beating everyone to finals. Which means that they are just doing horrible and they will either lose during the playin or during the first match up of the playoff series as well. That is the proof that you do not really even need the playing tournament at all.

Spurs on the other hand could gain a bit of playoff experience for the young kids, the last possession of grizzlies game showed that they really need a "buzzer beater" type of player, and playoff could give them some extra experience. They will lose too, no chance they could win, but at least they are young enough to learn from that.

Yeah exactly.

I'd rather have the Spurs get into the playoffs rather than the Lakers. The Lakers are too old and too washed up to make a difference.

They are simply not going to have enough gas in the tank to sustain a lengthy playoff run in my opinion, let alone do well in any of the games that they are in.

The Clippers will also be an interesting candidate in the middle of things with PG and potentially Kawhi back.

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Grizzlies are a really impressive team in the regular season. I wasn't expecting them to be this much good even in the middle of the season. But here we are seeing them at the second place in the Western Conference. Their place in the 1/8 finals round is already secured. And by the way, they are the team that have second most wins in the regular season so far. And they continue to win even in the absence of Ja Morant. I believe that it proves a lot about them. Above all else, they are a solid team now and not depending on only him.

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I would say that if they have to play in the playin tournament, then they do not really have to play there at all. We all know that Lakers wouldn't be suddenly playing from 10th seed and beating everyone to finals. Which means that they are just doing horrible and they will either lose during the playin or during the first match up of the playoff series as well. That is the proof that you do not really even need the playing tournament at all.

Spurs on the other hand could gain a bit of playoff experience for the young kids, the last possession of grizzlies game showed that they really need a "buzzer beater" type of player, and playoff could give them some extra experience. They will lose too, no chance they could win, but at least they are young enough to learn from that.

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Quote from: Jating on March 31, 2022, 01:16:49 PM

^^ Is Lebron or AD contract gonna expire as well next year? If that is the case, then maybe, just maybe either one of them are going to leave as well? What are the chances of that? So they should trade bait Westbrook to get a new player that will help more and understand his role if Lebron or AD chooses to stay and make just one more round at the championship. They don't want to end their stint with the Lakers in a bad note.

Davis has a contract until the 23/24 season, and he has a player option for the 24/25 season while LeBron's contract expires next year. However, it seems to me that Lebron will probably re-sign a new contract with the Lakers for at least another couple of seasons. As for Westbrook, I expect he will most likely leave in the upcoming offseason, although he also has a player option for next season.

He stated before that he will go on the team which draft his son but its little bit tricky to think which team will it be and also LBJ didn't show any sign that he will leave lakers so I guess he might re-sign another contract to Lakers and play for more years on this team. For Westbrook most provably Lakers management will find ways to dispose him and get another big names on the league but I also guess that they will struggle on this knowing that Westbrook got huge contract and other team will doubt about it as he didn't produce quality number this season.

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Quote from: Joca97 on March 31, 2022, 03:58:12 PM

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I think Lakers main problem is that they bringed Westbrook with such a high salary and spilled more wins then he gaved. He dosent give anything good to Lakers and if Lakers want to do something next season they need to get rid of him and bring some fresh new players

We can clearly see now that Westbrook is a failed experiment. They thought "strengthening" their starting line up would be good while trading most of their supporting cast. Who do you see as a trade potential for him? There were rumors of WB and Lillard before bit I don't think it would make much of a difference.

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Quote from: Jating on March 31, 2022, 01:16:49 PM

^^ Is Lebron or AD contract gonna expire as well next year? If that is the case, then maybe, just maybe either one of them are going to leave as well? What are the chances of that? So they should trade bait Westbrook to get a new player that will help more and understand his role if Lebron or AD chooses to stay and make just one more round at the championship. They don't want to end their stint with the Lakers in a bad note.

Davis has a contract until the 23/24 season, and he has a player option for the 24/25 season while LeBron's contract expires next year. However, it seems to me that Lebron will probably re-sign a new contract with the Lakers for at least another couple of seasons. As for Westbrook, I expect he will most likely leave in the upcoming offseason, although he also has a player option for next season.

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Quote from: Jating on March 31, 2022, 01:16:49 PM

^^ Is Lebron or AD contract gonna expire as well next year? If that is the case, then maybe, just maybe either one of them are going to leave as well? What are the chances of that? So they should trade bait Westbrook to get a new player that will help more and understand his role if Lebron or AD chooses to stay and make just one more round at the championship. They don't want to end their stint with the Lakers in a bad note.

I think Lakers main problem is that they bringed Westbrook with such a high salary and spilled more wins then he gaved. He dosent give anything good to Lakers and if Lakers want to do something next season they need to get rid of him and bring some fresh new players

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Cleveland Cavaliers vs Dallas Mavericks... This was quite important for each team to consolidate their place in top 6 or enter it. Cavs needed a win here to continue fighting hard for top 6. And Mavericks needed this win to consolidate their position in here. After a fierce clash, Mavericks won by an eight-point gap. And they owe this win mostly to Luka Doncic as always. He was very near making a triple-double as well. Mavericks can do a really good job in the playoffs but we'll see.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on March 26, 2022, 10:26:03 PM

Quote from: harizen on March 26, 2022, 06:52:01 PM

Spurs won 107 - 103.

With that win, Spurs is 2 games win behind the 9th and 10th. They are still alive at the play-in tournament. Pelicans are now tied with the Lakers. From the current standing, we can already picture out what will be the teams to compete in the play-in picture.

The Spurs' next 4 games are against Rockets, Grizzlies, and Blazers 2x. They should handle these teams except for the Grizllies without a problem.

It looks like the Spurs will have a very good chance to move up to 10th place in the standings if the Pelicans lose to the Lakers in the upcoming match. Furthermore, there are only 8 games left until the end of the regular season, so there could be a very intense struggle between these teams for the last place in the play-in tournament.

I'm not very good in terms of the NBA, but I am clear that the Pelicans have a very difficult time beating the Lakers, it's like something that internally says that it is much more likely with great security at all costs that they will win, however when we speak of the Spurs if I think they will go up, tenth is not bad, also with all this that remains of the season the results can be given, why not, this is the NBA.. Of course, in this case the Suns are at another level, it is likely that Spurs will be next to the Lakers in the general classification, the remaining games can make a difference without a doubt.

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^^ Is Lebron or AD contract gonna expire as well next year? If that is the case, then maybe, just maybe either one of them are going to leave as well? What are the chances of that? So they should trade bait Westbrook to get a new player that will help more and understand his role if Lebron or AD chooses to stay and make just one more round at the championship. They don't want to end their stint with the Lakers in a bad note.

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No chance if they can't bring a healthy Davis in case they'll be able to win the play-in tournament.

Inconsistent players that surround LeBron he can't lift the team up alone, whatever he will do if there's no good help
they will still suffer from being beaten by any team who have a solid teamwork.

If they'll be eliminated earlier, the management should re-assess from the coaching to staff to the players.

Can't agree more!
Even with Davis, I guess the Lakers would still struggle "IF" they're lucky to take the 8th spot and go against the Suns.

I'm even surprised Frank has not been fired yet after messing around with the rotation many times. Playing small ball and not even an effective strategy once. I mean, how do you let Howard set when he can grab 2 digits rebs and points every game? and he's letting LeBron do all the work and fill the center position.

Well, I guess Shaq was making a wild prediction for the Lakers vs Suns result lol.

We will see next season, if coach Vogel is still having his post as Lakers coach. But for sure there will be a lot of playing shifting around, and I don't see Westbrook or even Carmelo next year.

AS for the Suns and Lakers potential first round clash, why not? Davis tweeted that if he is not injured last year, it could have been a different story, and the Suns knows it, according to him. So let them face each other again and see is Phoenix has wait it takes to take out Lebron and Davis and shut his mouth for good.

Carmelo is gone but they'd have to find someone to take on Westbrook, they couldn't just release him with that contract too much dead money. If I were them I'd part ways with a future first rounder hoping you are good enough that then it would only be something in the twenties. Need usable players immediately. Lakers are a win now with lebron and AD on the team.

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No chance if they can't bring a healthy Davis in case they'll be able to win the play-in tournament.

Inconsistent players that surround LeBron he can't lift the team up alone, whatever he will do if there's no good help
they will still suffer from being beaten by any team who have a solid teamwork.

If they'll be eliminated earlier, the management should re-assess from the coaching to staff to the players.

Can't agree more!
Even with Davis, I guess the Lakers would still struggle "IF" they're lucky to take the 8th spot and go against the Suns.

I'm even surprised Frank has not been fired yet after messing around with the rotation many times. Playing small ball and not even an effective strategy once. I mean, how do you let Howard set when he can grab 2 digits rebs and points every game? and he's letting LeBron do all the work and fill the center position.

Well, I guess Shaq was making a wild prediction for the Lakers vs Suns result lol.

We will see next season, if coach Vogel is still having his post as Lakers coach. But for sure there will be a lot of playing shifting around, and I don't see Westbrook or even Carmelo next year.

AS for the Suns and Lakers potential first round clash, why not? Davis tweeted that if he is not injured last year, it could have been a different story, and the Suns knows it, according to him. So let them face each other again and see is Phoenix has wait it takes to take out Lebron and Davis and shut his mouth for good.

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^^ It's going to be a big test for the Lakers tonight. Spurs though let that game slip away when they have a chance against the Memphis. So I wanted to see the Lakes against the Suns though,I don't know, but I have this vibe that if by chance AD will play it will be a good series and I'm not seeing the Suns sweeping the Lakers. But the Lakers will have to go a lot in order to make it against the first seed.

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No chance if they can't bring a healthy Davis in case they'll be able to win the play-in tournament.

Inconsistent players that surround LeBron he can't lift the team up alone, whatever he will do if there's no good help
they will still suffer from being beaten by any team who have a solid teamwork.

If they'll be eliminated earlier, the management should re-assess from the coaching to staff to the players.

Can't agree more!
Even with Davis, I guess the Lakers would still struggle "IF" they're lucky to take the 8th spot and go against the Suns.

I'm even surprised Frank has not been fired yet after messing around with the rotation many times. Playing small ball and not even an effective strategy once. I mean, how do you let Howard set when he can grab 2 digits rebs and points every game? and he's letting LeBron do all the work and fill the center position.

Well, I guess Shaq was making a wild prediction for the Lakers vs Suns result lol.

I don't think the Suns match up well against the Lakers. If I were them, I'd be hoping that the Spurs end up in that play-in tournament. Nobody wants to come across LeBron and AD in the playoffs...

Every game is becoming more and more important as the Lakers are now back in the play-in with the Spurs loss last night. The Lakers are playing the Jazz tonight, and you can bet they'll be bringing their A game as they have the toughest remaining schedule in the NBA. You can watch the game on TNT (like I will be) and it's the second of a doubleheader featuring the Bucks and Nets in the first game. A good night for basketball... I hope LeBron is back.

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Quote from: Pamadar on March 31, 2022, 10:31:15 AM

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Quote from: hollandalibaykus on March 31, 2022, 01:44:03 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on March 30, 2022, 07:35:05 AM

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No chance if they can't bring a healthy Davis in case they'll be able to win the play-in tournament.

Inconsistent players that surround LeBron he can't lift the team up alone, whatever he will do if there's no good help
they will still suffer from being beaten by any team who have a solid teamwork.

If they'll be eliminated earlier, the management should re-assess from the coaching to staff to the players.

Can't agree more!
Even with Davis, I guess the Lakers would still struggle "IF" they're lucky to take the 8th spot and go against the Suns.

I'm even surprised Frank has not been fired yet after messing around with the rotation many times. Playing small ball and not even an effective strategy once. I mean, how do you let Howard set when he can grab 2 digits rebs and points every game? and he's letting LeBron do all the work and fill the center position.

Well, I guess Shaq was making a wild prediction for the Lakers vs Suns result lol.

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Lakers are lucky the Spurs also lost their game against the Grizzlies in a close battle.
The ball rolled in the ring and went outside, Keldon Johnson devastated as he lay on the floor. But that was an amazing game they showed and I really wish that ball went in.
That win could've been separated them from the tie in the 10th seed with the Lakers.
While on the Lakers side against the Mavs yesterday, meh. Embarrassed

Doncic dominated the game.

Yeah, that what an ouch moment, with Johnson missed that shot. A very good and deceptive play by the Spurs and they executed it very well to perfection it's not that ball didn't fall for the Spurs. It was a valiant effort though, I have the Spurs +5.5 when I sense that they are going to come back from the deficit, so a good win for me.

Almost but the game is for Memphis, the ball didn't gave the spurs that luxury to adjust and have a little edge against the Lakers.

It was an amazing set play coming from coach Pop, he really have that brilliant mind setting and almost a perfect execution if only the ball

went in, but luck is on the side of Memphis and now they are enjoying the second spot, Ja'-less Memphis but still escape and win the game.

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Lakers are at risk of not qualifying even in the play-in tournament.

They are ranked number 10 now and the Spurs have a great chance to replace them.
What are your thoughts about their situation guys? Looks like they are a complete failure already.

They had already played with a low performance all year and they caught a new losing streak all the time. When the team is missing even one or two players, they don't have much chance and they lose the matches. I think it will be difficult for them to play the playoffs this year, even if they do, they won't be able to do anything and they will be eliminated early on Cheesy

I think that would really happen because if they'll be lucky to pass the play-in tournament, they are still going to face the Suns in the playoffs and we know how good this team is doing lately. Lebron cannot handle his team with an inconsistent Westbrook and an injured Davis.

No chance if they can't bring a healthy Davis in case they'll be able to win the play-in tournament.

Inconsistent players that surround LeBron he can't lift the team up alone, whatever he will do if there's no good help
they will still suffer from being beaten by any team who have a solid teamwork.

If they'll be eliminated earlier, the management should re-assess from the coaching to staff to the players.

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