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Quote from: Yamifoud on November 08, 2021, 09:17:04 AM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on November 08, 2021, 09:09:57 AM

For MVP candidate, never miss Caruso LOL! Well, tbh I guess on the likes of Durant, Jokic, Giannis, Curry, are in that race.

IMO, Durant should be in the top 1 now being a contender in the MVP race, he is very efficient and he can make at least 30 points per game without a problem. Giannis and Jokic, they are not so consistent yet, their teams struggles a bit but Durant keeps winning for his team and getting good numbers.

Yeah, who wouldn't missed Durant in the top 3 of the MVP race for this year? I don't think that Jokic can do back to back, his Denver Nuggets is not the same as last year.

As for Wiggins, he is still part of the GSW, not sure why the discussion of him being traded. His points might be down a bit from last year, but still the same Wiggins for me. It's that Jordan Poole is now the new player in GSW as the second best scorer.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 08, 2021, 06:15:14 AM

His shooting consistency did not change, he is still good with his 3 point shooting but the real game is different, the opposite team will put a defender on him, it could be an aggressive defender or could double him, therefore he needs to still be quick enough to shoot the ball as that's really his special skills. Also, his defense is good but with the injury he suffered, I don't expect to see him still the same good defender as he was.

I do not think that his shooting will suffer a lot but we have seen people be lights out on training and fail to score on free throws let alone three pointers. A 50 year old Shaq can drain threes, I have seen his videos of him shooting threes and he made 50%+ of his threes, but dude fails to even make his free throws in game as we all know.

So, I have to say that it is clear to me we have to wait for his real game shooting to see how he will do. He doesn't even have to be good in the first 10-15 games if you ask me, there will be some period to rest and get better, dude haven't played in so long that it could be expected to see him rusty a bit first, but then he will get back to his usual groove. Most of the time people who come back from injuries do not have a problem with their shooting, it is the pace and lateral quickness that takes a hit and that is why his defense will probably never be the same.

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Quote from: Reid on November 08, 2021, 07:03:44 AM

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The Warriors are stacked right now to be honest, stacked with players full of potential, imagine a whole team shooting 3 pointers, kind of sad that they'll soon have to release some players, GPII is proving that he deserves more minutes, meanwhile Wiggins is still providing quality shots and good decision-making, he's really reliable inside and is getting better chemistry as the season progresses, last season he showed that he deserve the spot in the Warriors and be of help for Curry and the team, I doubt they'll be trading Wiggins. I really don't know who they'll trade as everyone actually deserves the spot in the roster, everyone's been red hot since the season started, kind of sad to see one of them getting traded, been a while since GSW was this solid.

I agree with the opinion about GPII but not with Wiggins. He hasn't really showed the consistency ever since he was in T'Wolves and now in GSW.
I thought he was going to change a bit when he lead the PPG of GSW at last years play in tournament but again, his inconsistency came out.
The kind of play that the Warriors have seems to not suit him because we cannot say he is not used to it yet, it had been a year already.
How come right now the other guys is already better than him at completing the plays that Steve Kerr wrote?

I really do not have any clue about the inconsistencies of Wiggins. There were games were he showed tremendous potential and shooting ability but there were also some games were he did not deliver what was expected of him. Players like Jordan Poole, GP2, and other teammates have showed significant potential and development over the course of years. Maybe AW has reached his peak and he will just remain as he is, though I still pray that he improves and be consistent at the end.

Like what I previously mentioned, watching the warriors play is like witnessing the golden age of Spurs basketball. Their playmaking ability, the fluidity and liquidity of passing is just a sight and privilege to experience and see!

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on November 08, 2021, 09:09:57 AM

For MVP candidate, never miss Caruso LOL! Well, tbh I guess on the likes of Durant, Jokic, Giannis, Curry, are in that race.

IMO, Durant should be in the top 1 now being a contender in the MVP race, he is very efficient and he can make at least 30 points per game without a problem. Giannis and Jokic, they are not so consistent yet, their teams struggles a bit but Durant keeps winning for his team and getting good numbers.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 08, 2021, 12:27:46 AM

That Clippers game was something else. They finished on a 27-4 run to comeback and beat the Charlotte Hornets. After the game the coach for the Hornets said they were just missing shots at the end of the game and there was no other explanation for the breakdown… Paul George had another great night, barely missing a triple double with 20-9-8 as his final stat line.

Ahhh, my PG13. Well, that was an extended win streak now and I do hope it will continue as well as PGs stat. He's currently on the 3rd for PPG and FGM, 2nd on SPG, 7th on EFF.

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 08, 2021, 04:36:40 AM

^^ Well if he could bring statistical numbers, ppg, rebounds, assist and then bring his team to the top without Kawhi Leonard. If he will produce this then perhaps he will be considered for the MVP race this year.

It will be tough race though, we have Luka, Jokic (although his team is like struggling), Steph leading the scoring and could be 2nd straight year with that accolade. Of course Giannis and then Bron. If will be very close and I don't think we will have a majority MVP this year.

I think the possibility is he'd be but I think that number will reduce once Kawhi is there now helping him. Steph isn't the one leading on scoring it's on Durant by now. We are still 8-10 games for the regular season being played and stats would change drastically after 20 or more games. For MVP candidate, never miss Caruso LOL! Well, tbh I guess on the likes of Durant, Jokic, Giannis, Curry, are in that race.

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Quote from: Reid on November 08, 2021, 07:03:44 AM

Quote from: dupee419 on November 08, 2021, 06:51:30 AM

The Warriors are stacked right now to be honest, stacked with players full of potential, imagine a whole team shooting 3 pointers, kind of sad that they'll soon have to release some players, GPII is proving that he deserves more minutes, meanwhile Wiggins is still providing quality shots and good decision-making, he's really reliable inside and is getting better chemistry as the season progresses, last season he showed that he deserve the spot in the Warriors and be of help for Curry and the team, I doubt they'll be trading Wiggins. I really don't know who they'll trade as everyone actually deserves the spot in the roster, everyone's been red hot since the season started, kind of sad to see one of them getting traded, been a while since GSW was this solid.

I agree with the opinion about GPII but not with Wiggins. He hasn't really showed the consistency ever since he was in T'Wolves and now in GSW.
I thought he was going to change a bit when he lead the PPG of GSW at last years play in tournament but again, his inconsistency came out.
The kind of play that the Warriors have seems to not suit him because we cannot say he is not used to it yet, it had been a year already.
How come right now the other guys is already better than him at completing the plays that Steve Kerr wrote?

That wouldn't create an impact on the team at all as GPII is not even a starter, he only makes over $1 million a year while Wiggins makes $31 million this year. When bench players it doesn't impact much on the team, so it's not a big deal, check out the salary of players and this is one of the best basis for trade potential.

https://www.espn.ph/nba/team/roster/_/name/gs/sort/salary/dir/desc/golden-state-warriors

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Quote from: dupee419 on November 08, 2021, 06:51:30 AM

The Warriors are stacked right now to be honest, stacked with players full of potential, imagine a whole team shooting 3 pointers, kind of sad that they'll soon have to release some players, GPII is proving that he deserves more minutes, meanwhile Wiggins is still providing quality shots and good decision-making, he's really reliable inside and is getting better chemistry as the season progresses, last season he showed that he deserve the spot in the Warriors and be of help for Curry and the team, I doubt they'll be trading Wiggins. I really don't know who they'll trade as everyone actually deserves the spot in the roster, everyone's been red hot since the season started, kind of sad to see one of them getting traded, been a while since GSW was this solid.

I agree with the opinion about GPII but not with Wiggins. He hasn't really showed the consistency ever since he was in T'Wolves and now in GSW.
I thought he was going to change a bit when he lead the PPG of GSW at last years play in tournament but again, his inconsistency came out.
The kind of play that the Warriors have seems to not suit him because we cannot say he is not used to it yet, it had been a year already.
How come right now the other guys is already better than him at completing the plays that Steve Kerr wrote?

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 08, 2021, 06:15:14 AM

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No rumors has been set towards trading Wiggins since they really need his help in terms of shooting since they don't have Klay in the rooster yet and maybe the Warriors will open this discussion if Klay will be back on their rooster. For sure Wiggins will get limited minutes that's why the GSW management will think about getting inside help since they already have more shooters in their current rooster.

The management does not have to make a decision right away, they have to check on the performance of Klay Thompson if he can still be close to his old self and produce good numbers with the team. Klay is coming from a serious injury, he won't get back his confidence right away, so in this situation, they still need Wiggins to contribute for the team like he usually does.

Andrew Wiggins' salary this season is $31,579,390, that's a huge contract, I'm sure it will match the other players that might make the system for the Warriors perfect, but in order to make that happen, we need to see some interest from the other teams too.

I do agree with that but looking at the practices and shoot arounds made recently by Klay it shows that he's still consistent shooter so for sure the GSW management will still trust him in terms on providing offense to their team.

Also for sure many teams will be interested to get Wiggins since he's still a valuable piece its just GSW have many shooter and they have to eliminate one of their player who got a huge salary so that they can give space to other rooster who can provide the same performance but they can also save millions in a contract.

His shooting consistency did not change, he is still good with his 3 point shooting but the real game is different, the opposite team will put a defender on him, it could be an aggressive defender or could double him, therefore he needs to still be quick enough to shoot the ball as that's really his special skills. Also, his defense is good but with the injury he suffered, I don't expect to see him still the same good defender as he was.

The Warriors are stacked right now to be honest, stacked with players full of potential, imagine a whole team shooting 3 pointers, kind of sad that they'll soon have to release some players, GPII is proving that he deserves more minutes, meanwhile Wiggins is still providing quality shots and good decision-making, he's really reliable inside and is getting better chemistry as the season progresses, last season he showed that he deserve the spot in the Warriors and be of help for Curry and the team, I doubt they'll be trading Wiggins. I really don't know who they'll trade as everyone actually deserves the spot in the roster, everyone's been red hot since the season started, kind of sad to see one of them getting traded, been a while since GSW was this solid.

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Quote from: ultrloa on November 08, 2021, 05:34:13 AM

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Quote from: ultrloa on November 06, 2021, 08:26:10 AM

No rumors has been set towards trading Wiggins since they really need his help in terms of shooting since they don't have Klay in the rooster yet and maybe the Warriors will open this discussion if Klay will be back on their rooster. For sure Wiggins will get limited minutes that's why the GSW management will think about getting inside help since they already have more shooters in their current rooster.

The management does not have to make a decision right away, they have to check on the performance of Klay Thompson if he can still be close to his old self and produce good numbers with the team. Klay is coming from a serious injury, he won't get back his confidence right away, so in this situation, they still need Wiggins to contribute for the team like he usually does.

Andrew Wiggins' salary this season is $31,579,390, that's a huge contract, I'm sure it will match the other players that might make the system for the Warriors perfect, but in order to make that happen, we need to see some interest from the other teams too.

I do agree with that but looking at the practices and shoot arounds made recently by Klay it shows that he's still consistent shooter so for sure the GSW management will still trust him in terms on providing offense to their team.

Also for sure many teams will be interested to get Wiggins since he's still a valuable piece its just GSW have many shooter and they have to eliminate one of their player who got a huge salary so that they can give space to other rooster who can provide the same performance but they can also save millions in a contract.

His shooting consistency did not change, he is still good with his 3 point shooting but the real game is different, the opposite team will put a defender on him, it could be an aggressive defender or could double him, therefore he needs to still be quick enough to shoot the ball as that's really his special skills. Also, his defense is good but with the injury he suffered, I don't expect to see him still the same good defender as he was.

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Quote from: freedomgo on November 06, 2021, 08:39:29 AM

Quote from: ultrloa on November 06, 2021, 08:26:10 AM

No rumors has been set towards trading Wiggins since they really need his help in terms of shooting since they don't have Klay in the rooster yet and maybe the Warriors will open this discussion if Klay will be back on their rooster. For sure Wiggins will get limited minutes that's why the GSW management will think about getting inside help since they already have more shooters in their current rooster.

The management does not have to make a decision right away, they have to check on the performance of Klay Thompson if he can still be close to his old self and produce good numbers with the team. Klay is coming from a serious injury, he won't get back his confidence right away, so in this situation, they still need Wiggins to contribute for the team like he usually does.

Andrew Wiggins' salary this season is $31,579,390, that's a huge contract, I'm sure it will match the other players that might make the system for the Warriors perfect, but in order to make that happen, we need to see some interest from the other teams too.

I do agree with that but looking at the practices and shoot arounds made recently by Klay it shows that he's still consistent shooter so for sure the GSW management will still trust him in terms on providing offense to their team.

Also for sure many teams will be interested to get Wiggins since he's still a valuable piece its just GSW have many shooter and they have to eliminate one of their player who got a huge salary so that they can give space to other rooster who can provide the same performance but they can also save millions in a contract.

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Quote from: yazher on November 07, 2021, 09:07:01 PM

Looks like the GSW will go for the best record in the NBA this season as they leading the game today against the Houston Rockets. This is how they should be when their star players are healthy and still they're lack of Klay Thompson won't hinder them to be the best in the league today.

Back in the years where they are still dominating the league, they are a very dangerous team because of the fact their 3rd quarter explosions.
There is a time where the Warriors are very dangerous when the 3rd quarter comes because that is the time where they will shoot threes or score more.

Now we are seeing it again. If you will see the 3rd quarter scoring of Warriors in their last 5 games, they outscored 4 of their opponents thus getting a huge lead coming into the 4th quarter and winning the game. The only game where they lost in 3rd quarter is against the Grizzlies where they ended up losing the game.

When the 3rd quarter comes, watch out for the Warriors because they will explode. They will shoot threes, outscored their opponent. That is one of the reasons why they are winning and other teams must do something.

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^^ Well if he could bring statistical numbers, ppg, rebounds, assist and then bring his team to the top without Kawhi Leonard. If he will produce this then perhaps he will be considered for the MVP race this year.

It will be tough race though, we have Luka, Jokic (although his team is like struggling), Steph leading the scoring and could be 2nd straight year with that accolade. Of course Giannis and then Bron. If will be very close and I don't think we will have a majority MVP this year.

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Quote from: Jating on November 08, 2021, 01:34:34 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on November 08, 2021, 12:27:46 AM

That Clippers game was something else. They finished on a 27-4 run to comeback and beat the Charlotte Hornets. After the game the coach for the Hornets said they were just missing shots at the end of the game and there was no other explanation for the breakdown… Paul George had another great night, barely missing a triple double with 20-9-8 as his final stat line.

Surprised though to see the Clippers big comeback against the Charlotte.

But I become shy, It could have been a good win for me (forget the odds when they are down by 2 digits). And who else are going to lead but Paul George, good numbers.

We've seen some teams collapsing in the 4th quarter, whether in their backyard or not. And it makes the game more exciting.

I witnessed a lot of games this season with the same scenario, these are the games I remembered.

1. OKC come back win against LA Lakers.
2. Bulls come back win against the Celtics
3. Suns come back win against the Pelicans.
4. and lastly, the Warriors come back win against LA Clippers, though the lead is not much.

Anyone, have you ever consided PG as one of the top contender for regular season MVP?

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 08, 2021, 12:27:46 AM

That Clippers game was something else. They finished on a 27-4 run to comeback and beat the Charlotte Hornets. After the game the coach for the Hornets said they were just missing shots at the end of the game and there was no other explanation for the breakdown… Paul George had another great night, barely missing a triple double with 20-9-8 as his final stat line.

Surprised though to see the Clippers big comeback against the Charlotte.

But I become shy, It could have been a good win for me (forget the odds when they are down by 2 digits). And who else are going to lead but Paul George, good numbers.

We've seen some teams collapsing in the 4th quarter, whether in their backyard or not. And it makes the game more exciting.

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That Clippers game was something else. They finished on a 27-4 run to comeback and beat the Charlotte Hornets. After the game the coach for the Hornets said they were just missing shots at the end of the game and there was no other explanation for the breakdown… Paul George had another great night, barely missing a triple double with 20-9-8 as his final stat line.

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Quote from: gagux123 on November 07, 2021, 04:54:45 PM

I've been thinking to myself and would like to hear from you guys!!

The Lakers have built an excellent team for this season, but unfortunately I realized that they are not having the expected result, very low performance, players ""injured"" among so many and other things.

What's the real reason the Lakers are going through this!!?
How can the team recover and improve his performance!!? I would like to know your opinion about this!
thanks!

Because they are still on adjustment period and basketball is supposed to be play by teamwork not by bunch of players that competing each other within there teammates just to show off. I mean Melo and Westbrook are both good players individually but we know that both of them is craving to get the spotlight and they are just forced to adjust there game style just to sync on a team. Only LBJ can work this roster since he is the leader. Without him, This team will surely suffer because most of there players has been an All Star so they usually follow there own individual decision that they think better to win the match even though they are not synchronised.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 07, 2021, 06:56:11 AM

Yeah, but for those who have a -3.5 bet on the Mavs, he shouldn't take it and win. At least force OT and then win by 4 points. Grin

And I am one of those who bet beyond -3.5, that's why I am rooting for overtime instead of a buzzer-beater. Cheesy

The Golden State Warriors is really looking awesome. It's a sure win, it's still not over yet but with a 20 point lead against the Houston Rockets with Iguodala not even playing this will be over in a blown-out game.
Rockets may have been playing against other teams in a close game but this time they are in an off-night situation. A lot of missed free throws are being wasted that could have made the lead a little closer. 23/35.

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Quote from: yazher on November 07, 2021, 09:07:01 PM

Looks like the GSW will go for the best record in the NBA this season as they leading the game today against the Houston Rockets. This is how they should be when their star players are healthy and still they're lack of Klay Thompson won't hinder them to be the best in the league today.

Warriors are really good this season, tbvh... but I wouldn't place a bet even if they're offered at 5-8 Odds to be the best in the regular season, there is a lot more too the season than the first 10 games or thereabout, can they afford to lose a couple of starters to injury and be able to hold out games ?

If they are able to keep their starters healthy for 75% of the season, then maybe they can make the top 3 best team, imo.

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Looks like the GSW will go for the best record in the NBA this season as they leading the game today against the Houston Rockets. This is how they should be when their star players are healthy and still they're lack of Klay Thompson won't hinder them to be the best in the league today.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 07, 2021, 04:43:27 PM

The Nets getting clobbered by the Raptors right now. James Harden is once again looking terrible. Between the Nets and the Lakers losing games, and LeBron James sitting around tweeting about football instead of his team’s struggles is definitely not where I saw this season going. I can only hope we see a good matchup in the Finals and that these struggles for both teams are temporary.

Nope, actually it was James Harden (of course Durant as well), who put big numbers, specially down the stretch with less than 2 minutes when the Raptors are trying to make a come back. Hits a jumper and then another 3 to stop a 7-1 run by the Raptors. Nets now on a 4 game winning streak even without Kyrie Irving.

Harden with 28, Durant with 31.

Siakam with a 15 point debut game.

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