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November 05, 2021, 09:06:39 AM
I guess it will benefit both teams. Irving does not seem interested any more in playing with the Nets and he stated that he will retire if he gets traded, but if he knows his destination with be the Lakers playing with his old buddy and has a chance to win a ring again, I think he might change his mind.

This is speculation only if that would happen, but until Irving will sort his problem regarding his non-vaccination stance, then it's useless to expect a trade since we might not be able to see Irving for a while until non-vaccinated players are allowed to play because a cure of the virus has been discovered already.

Nets would welcome back Kyrie Irving if NYC vaccine mandate is lifted, Steve Nash says
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November 05, 2021, 08:26:36 AM
I think it's time for the Lakers to make a hard decision for the good of the team.

What do you say about this idea?

https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-trade-rumors/the-wild-trade-idea-that-would-shake-the-nba-russell-westbrook-for-kyrie-irving



What's the possibility of this from happening?
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November 05, 2021, 07:51:59 AM
The Lakers with another embarrassing loss tonight. OKC is tanking and they managed to beat them… Seeing the Lakers struggle against the worst teams in the league like this is a pretty bad sign. I’m not seeing any real improvement. I don’t understand why Dwight Howard is only getting a couple minutes a game either. It seems like they aren’t very concerned with winning at the moment.
That's 2 times a row, I knew it, they have not adjusted very well as they lose to a team that does not have a good standing. I know Lebron was out, but Davis and Westbrook, I think they can handle the OKC, but I was wrong, they lose again.
Yeah, another embarrassing lost for them against the OKC. And it seems that OKC is their kryptonite. Although they still have Davis and Westbrook and then Melo, it is not enough. I don't like the sentence "they aren’t very concerned with winning at the moment", but it's obvious that coach Vogel can't organized his superstars and as if he really just wanted to distributed minutes for them.
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November 05, 2021, 07:40:34 AM

They have Davis and Westbrook, these two are high paid players and the main star of their previous team, so there's really no excuse, they have to understand that if they can't win against non playoffs team, how can they win against strong teams that are consistent in the playoffs?

They should know that to be defeated by the OKC two times, will make them prone to lose their spot in the playoffs. I mean, if they continue to give easy wins like that, they might find themselves struggling to get to the top 8 again. They need to sweep those easy teams and continue to gather wins as much as they can to hold their spot in the Top 5 in the Western Conference because if they continue to lose like that, we will see another Lakers Team again just like what we have seen the last season where they barely make it to the NBA playoffs.

Their next game is against the Portland TrailBlazers, it's Melo and Ariza's previous team, let's see if they'll be able to bounce back on the road. I'm sure Westbrook will never forget Lillard as Lillards' team beat Westbrook's team in the playoffs from a long 3 point shot of Lillard.

Not sure if Lebron will be back in their next game, but hopefully he will so they would not make excuses. lol
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November 05, 2021, 07:37:20 AM

They have Davis and Westbrook, these two are high paid players and the main star of their previous team, so there's really no excuse, they have to understand that if they can't win against non playoffs team, how can they win against strong teams that are consistent in the playoffs?

They should know that to be defeated by the OKC two times, will make them prone to lose their spot in the playoffs. I mean, if they continue to give easy wins like that, they might find themselves struggling to get to the top 8 again. They need to sweep those easy teams and continue to gather wins as much as they can to hold their spot in the Top 5 in the Western Conference because if they continue to lose like that, we will see another Lakers Team again just like what we have seen the last season where they barely make it to the NBA playoffs.
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November 05, 2021, 06:57:34 AM
The Lakers with another embarrassing loss tonight. OKC is tanking and they managed to beat them… Seeing the Lakers struggle against the worst teams in the league like this is a pretty bad sign. I’m not seeing any real improvement. I don’t understand why Dwight Howard is only getting a couple minutes a game either. It seems like they aren’t very concerned with winning at the moment.
I don't know if I should laugh at it or cry for them. This OKC team are like having a goal to never let Lakers win against them.  Grin
I saw a lot of good defense from AD and the rest of the crew but their offense sucks.
You cannot even define if there is a play that is happening or they are all on their own after the rebound.

Regarding the minutes of Dwight, it's like Frank Vogel forgets he is part of the team. They cannot reason out this loss just because Lebron is not around. The Lakers was formed to have more stars around if ever Lebron feels bad and that is now. They must prove they can also win games Lebron-less.

Definitely, it's useless forming a superteam when they can't win if their leader is out.

They have Davis and Westbrook, these two are high paid players and the main star of their previous team, so there's really no excuse, they have to understand that if they can't win against non playoffs team, how can they win against strong teams that are consistent in the playoffs?
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November 05, 2021, 06:48:59 AM
The Lakers with another embarrassing loss tonight. OKC is tanking and they managed to beat them… Seeing the Lakers struggle against the worst teams in the league like this is a pretty bad sign. I’m not seeing any real improvement. I don’t understand why Dwight Howard is only getting a couple minutes a game either. It seems like they aren’t very concerned with winning at the moment.
I don't know if I should laugh at it or cry for them. This OKC team are like having a goal to never let Lakers win against them.  Grin
I saw a lot of good defense from AD and the rest of the crew but their offense sucks.
You cannot even define if there is a play that is happening or they are all on their own after the rebound.

Regarding the minutes of Dwight, it's like Frank Vogel forgets he is part of the team. They cannot reason out this loss just because Lebron is not around. The Lakers was formed to have more stars around if ever Lebron feels bad and that is now. They must prove they can also win games Lebron-less.
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November 05, 2021, 05:44:53 AM
The Lakers with another embarrassing loss tonight. OKC is tanking and they managed to beat them… Seeing the Lakers struggle against the worst teams in the league like this is a pretty bad sign. I’m not seeing any real improvement. I don’t understand why Dwight Howard is only getting a couple minutes a game either. It seems like they aren’t very concerned with winning at the moment.

Quite honestly, I don't see a great outcome for the Lakers this season.

Fact of the matter is that Russell Westbrook is an incredibly inefficient scorer and hogs the ball way too much.

He missed another crucial shot today at the end of the game and from the moment the ball left his hands, you could tell that it wasn't going to go in.

Rondo, Westbrook, Carmelo and Dwight are all former great players who are now competing for minutes. Not a great combo.
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November 05, 2021, 05:15:59 AM
The Lakers with another embarrassing loss tonight. OKC is tanking and they managed to beat them… Seeing the Lakers struggle against the worst teams in the league like this is a pretty bad sign. I’m not seeing any real improvement. I don’t understand why Dwight Howard is only getting a couple minutes a game either. It seems like they aren’t very concerned with winning at the moment.
Seeing them losing and choking once into a team which we know are tanking is understandable.
But seeing them losing twice?? The Lakers team is a "one of a kind" team.

They have a huge lead in their last 2 games but the Thunder managed to fight back and win. SGA is one of the reason why they are winning against them and that logo 3 made by him? That's how confident he is in himself. He improved after he went to Thunder because he got more minutes there than him being in the Clippers where he is just a bench. I'm curious what LeBron said to his team after choking twice to a tanking team like OKC Cheesy. Very disappointing.
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November 05, 2021, 12:46:55 AM
The Lakers with another embarrassing loss tonight. OKC is tanking and they managed to beat them… Seeing the Lakers struggle against the worst teams in the league like this is a pretty bad sign. I’m not seeing any real improvement. I don’t understand why Dwight Howard is only getting a couple minutes a game either. It seems like they aren’t very concerned with winning at the moment.
That's 2 times a row, I knew it, they have not adjusted very well as they lose to a team that does not have a good standing. I know Lebron was out, but Davis and Westbrook, I think they can handle the OKC, but I was wrong, they lose again.
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November 05, 2021, 12:40:53 AM
The Lakers with another embarrassing loss tonight. OKC is tanking and they managed to beat them… Seeing the Lakers struggle against the worst teams in the league like this is a pretty bad sign. I’m not seeing any real improvement. I don’t understand why Dwight Howard is only getting a couple minutes a game either. It seems like they aren’t very concerned with winning at the moment.
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November 04, 2021, 11:58:59 PM
Everyone is really excited how will Klay be in his comeback, Durant's comeback last year was pretty awesome, as if he didn't have the injury, and hopefully we wanted to see the old Klay, catch and shoot 3's, moving without the ball, playing good defense.

But before we can see him on the court, GSW will needs to make sure that he is healthy because that is really a devastating injury and wanted that no stones are left un turn, 100% healthy for him or no play.
Well, if Klay's comeback turns out like that then that would be too awesome to see, though haters gonna hate, as always. The Klay Thompson that doesn't need to dribble to score? That nostalgic feeling seeing how good he was on those clutchy moments.

A 2 years of rehab I think should be enough now (fingers crossed) and let's trust the specialist around his rehabilitation that it will be all alright when he comes back to court again.

Klay Thompson does not have haters, lol. I like to see him back soon because with Curry they will definitely gonna rule with their good 3 point shooting skills. For now, they are living with the current roster but they are already good enough, in fact, they only have 1 loss so far and that's very impressive.
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November 04, 2021, 11:54:36 PM
Everyone is really excited how will Klay be in his comeback, Durant's comeback last year was pretty awesome, as if he didn't have the injury, and hopefully we wanted to see the old Klay, catch and shoot 3's, moving without the ball, playing good defense.

But before we can see him on the court, GSW will needs to make sure that he is healthy because that is really a devastating injury and wanted that no stones are left un turn, 100% healthy for him or no play.
Well, if Klay's comeback turns out like that then that would be too awesome to see, though haters gonna hate, as always. The Klay Thompson that doesn't need to dribble to score? That nostalgic feeling seeing how good he was on those clutchy moments.

A 2 years of rehab I think should be enough now (fingers crossed) and let's trust the specialist around his rehabilitation that it will be all alright when he comes back to court again.
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November 04, 2021, 10:01:53 PM
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Whoa! Are they training him to be one of the big guys who can shoot threes? Brook Lopez or Nikola Jokic type of basketball?
Quite impressive numbers for Myles Turner, but I'm not sure, he was a defensive player right? And now he shoots three? Maybe he was trained to be the next big guy that can shoot from outside,
Everybody wants to shoot threes now. It's just how the league and the game has evolved. It's pretty late for training him to shoot there since this started years back but I guess better late than never and he's still young. I hope he doesn't become lazy on the inside just because he could shoot outside.

If I'm not wrong Myles Turner was never a 3 point shooter right? He has recently become one? Or more specifically a good 3 point shooter? Wow, that is some insane transformation. Turner is still young and if he's trained like this consistently, he will become one of the best 3pt shooters in my opinion. I think he had a huge influence on the Pacers winning against the Knicks.
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November 04, 2021, 09:16:22 PM
So I just saw an ESPN NBA analyst rank whom he believe to be the best shooters in NBA history, his list goes 1-Curry ( unarguable ) 2-Ray Allen, 3- Dirk, 4- Durant, 5- Klay. Curious what you guys think. Not sure I would change the list much myself. I think I’d move Klay up to 2nd or 3rd though perhaps.
Do you have the link of whose ESPN NBA analysts did the ranking? I agree with Steph as number 1 and I have a different guy in my number 2 list.
If this is just for 1 decade then I might agree but if it's for an All-Time shooter he forgot about Reggie Miller.
As a commentator of the NBA now he doesn't even brag about it anymore. He does agree with Steph as the best shooter in the league too. But he is my number 2 and next to it will be Ray Allen.
I thought DeRozan's career is not exciting anymore because he wasn't that effective with the San Antonio Spurs, but now that he was traded, we saw how good he is and with the right teammates, the new look Chicago Bulls has become a playoffs contender.
True! I also thought he will fade silently in Spurs but now there is so much life in him and a red jersey makes him look better.  Grin A rollercoaster ride career for him. Bad management in Toronto, disciplined by Pops in San Antonio, and now has a chance for a championship if all goes well.
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November 04, 2021, 08:51:26 PM
So I just saw an ESPN NBA analyst rank whom he believe to be the best shooters in NBA history, his list goes 1-Curry ( unarguable ) 2-Ray Allen, 3- Dirk, 4- Durant, 5- Klay. Curious what you guys think. Not sure I would change the list much myself. I think I’d move Klay up to 2nd or 3rd though perhaps.

I'd probably have Klay on 3rd as well, but Steph Curry effortlessly does it all, he doesn't even need to try too much imo, he was born with it. If there's anything else I might want to change, I think I'd want to have Harden on the list, only if he tries to shoot more often.



Anyone watching Boston Celtics running the show at Miami ? What a tough night it's been for the Heat, they get swept away in the 2nd and now have to lose Lowry to an injury, that's got Butler more with the and less a shooter. I believe Lowry is the key factor the Heat team has been missing and would be a major factor to their season.
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November 04, 2021, 07:13:16 PM
So I just saw an ESPN NBA analyst rank whom he believe to be the best shooters in NBA history, his list goes 1-Curry ( unarguable ) 2-Ray Allen, 3- Dirk, 4- Durant, 5- Klay. Curious what you guys think. Not sure I would change the list much myself. I think I’d move Klay up to 2nd or 3rd though perhaps.
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November 04, 2021, 07:04:23 PM
Watched the game between GSW vs Hornets and I was literally blown away by the team chemistry of the former. During the whole game, it slightly reminded me of Spurs basketball in 2014 where they were so liquid in their passes. Like every player stepped-up especially Jordan Poole and his confidence in his shooting. If Klay and Wiseman were to come back, they will surely be a threat to every team.

In addition, the Nets played so well earlier considering that James Harden made 10+ assists. He showed his playmaking and unselfishness on the court with his IQ and vision. When he needs to score (especially on the 3rd quarter where they were tied 75-75), he will step-up and assist Durant!

Yep they look like it's mid season right now they are going to be a real tough out.  With that being said knicks second game in a row that they look tired.  Thibs never goes more than 9 or so deep but I think it's time we get some of the end of the bench some run out there.  Even for 3 or 4 minutes to mix up the game and the other teams defense.  I'd like to see quentin grimes get some time.  He is deadly from beyond the arc and plays hard defense, same with duece.

That is some big win for GSW. A huge win with a gap of 24 points! GSW looks so good on the pitch. Their game is an eye-pleasing one. I can't remember  Spurs from 2014 but all I can say is that even though GSW doesn't have 4 or 5 big names on the squad, their chemistry is the best in the league right now. It feels like they can even beat some teams by playing with their eyes closed, that's how good their chemistry is right now. I'm hoping they can win the championship without much hardship.
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November 04, 2021, 06:01:04 PM
JP3 already had the potential, he just really needed to improve his decision making, I actually like how Curry and Draymond are to the young guys, not putting any pressure and hyping them up, I like how Curry doesn't use his accolades as something to put pressure on his teammates, JP3 could potentially be the next all-star for GSW, let's not forget the high school star rookies, Moody and Kuminga.
Impressive for sure.  Wiseman is coming back soon and I saw Klay putting up shots today...  The Warriors might end up being much better than I've given them credit for.  If Wiseman has continued to develop from last year and Klay comes back close to his normal self, they might be a #3 seed in the west.  I also read an interesting rumor that Dame has been trying hard to force Blazers management into a trade for Draymond Green.  No idea why Dame thinks Draymond is the missing piece the Blazers need, but it seems like that's the rumor being pushed at the moment.  No idea how that trade would look.
Curry - Klay - Dray- Poole- Wiseman. That is not a bad team at all, they have wiggins as well and it will probably be Curry-Wiggins-Klay-Dray-Wiseman when he returns, so far Poole right now when Wiseman is gone. All in all they are a great team, they won 2015 without Durant and many people keep forgetting that, they had a 73-9 season as well without Durant, and yes they lost on the last game of the finals and that is why people do not talk about that season but they broke the winning record that season.

I have to say that Warriors without Durant proved that they are great team beforehand and they are back at it again, it is not a shock that they would be great this season again, it is not really "that" different from 2015 championship season.

The way Poole is playing I think Wiggins is the odd man out and should come off the bench.  He is too inefficient to play with the first team.  I'd let him be the scorer off the bench and let him chuck for 5-7 minutes at a clip and if he is off pull him and if he is on the let him stay in.  Def bullish on GS this year.

Haha, he has been too inefficient that's why he got traded in different teams, and if he keeps doing it, I guess the GSW might finally trade him. I don't know if the offers of the 76ers is still open to trade Simmons for Wiggins, if so, then maybe the GSW will try to consider it now.
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November 04, 2021, 05:57:04 PM
JP3 already had the potential, he just really needed to improve his decision making, I actually like how Curry and Draymond are to the young guys, not putting any pressure and hyping them up, I like how Curry doesn't use his accolades as something to put pressure on his teammates, JP3 could potentially be the next all-star for GSW, let's not forget the high school star rookies, Moody and Kuminga.
Impressive for sure.  Wiseman is coming back soon and I saw Klay putting up shots today...  The Warriors might end up being much better than I've given them credit for.  If Wiseman has continued to develop from last year and Klay comes back close to his normal self, they might be a #3 seed in the west.  I also read an interesting rumor that Dame has been trying hard to force Blazers management into a trade for Draymond Green.  No idea why Dame thinks Draymond is the missing piece the Blazers need, but it seems like that's the rumor being pushed at the moment.  No idea how that trade would look.
Curry - Klay - Dray- Poole- Wiseman. That is not a bad team at all, they have wiggins as well and it will probably be Curry-Wiggins-Klay-Dray-Wiseman when he returns, so far Poole right now when Wiseman is gone. All in all they are a great team, they won 2015 without Durant and many people keep forgetting that, they had a 73-9 season as well without Durant, and yes they lost on the last game of the finals and that is why people do not talk about that season but they broke the winning record that season.

I have to say that Warriors without Durant proved that they are great team beforehand and they are back at it again, it is not a shock that they would be great this season again, it is not really "that" different from 2015 championship season.

The way Poole is playing I think Wiggins is the odd man out and should come off the bench.  He is too inefficient to play with the first team.  I'd let him be the scorer off the bench and let him chuck for 5-7 minutes at a clip and if he is off pull him and if he is on the let him stay in.  Def bullish on GS this year.
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