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While the Lakers woes continue, so do the Nets. James Harden is struggling big time out there with the ball. I had assumed this was because he spent his summer partying with rappers and is not in nba shape, but it seems like people are saying this is the result of rule changes taking the free throw line away from him. If it is rule changes to blame, the Nets need Kyrie bad at the point… I wonder how much longer this vaccine nonsense will rule all.

Looks like the new rule regarding calling fouls by the referees really hit Harden that bad. On average, Harden is taking 9 FTA per game but now he is only taking at least 3 FTA per game. A huge decrease and that is because of the new rules. The new rule hit him, Young, Doncic and those players who really like to lean on to the defenders to let them commit a foul. With the Nets currently 24th in offense and with a record of 2-3, they really need Kyrie but it seems like his ego still prevails and he still don't want to get vaccinated for his personal reasons and shit.

Well, the Lakers team still not fail to amaze me Cheesy

At one point, they lead by up to 26 at the 2nd quarter and they blew it all up at the 3rd quarter. Many here are blaming Ninja Turtle (Westbrook) but lets also blame his teammates who did awful on the second half. Scored 72 in the first half which is high already and only 43 on the second. I'm curious on what LeBron is saying to his teammates after the game Cheesy

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I didn't realize the Lakers were up so much until seeing the highlights played back. Man, that is crazy... Granted they've got 3 good players out with injuries, but they should have been able to win this game and seeing them get such a huge lead early showed that they have it in them. I think overcoming egos is going to be the biggest challenge for this team. As scary as it is for them to lose these games, it was to be expected that the season would start rough as they figure things out. If they are still losing games like this after the all star break then I'd start worrying.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 28, 2021, 12:54:03 AM

^ The most embarrassing quadruple double of all. This is why some people question his ability as a point guard. Up by as many as 26 points and still losing the game with those stats, this is probably the most embarrassing loss in his career. At least he's part of another history now Grin

Lol
I'm not questioning his ability as a point guard, but he's wasting too much posession on that low percentage lobs to Dwight. Most of his turnovers were intercepted passes. So, I guess working on his passing accuracy will be his priority now.

The Lakers has a very bad 3rd quarter most of their games.
The struggle is now real for the Lakers.

Does this mean a "Trade Alert?" or too early? Lol.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 28, 2021, 01:59:39 AM

While the Lakers woes continue, so do the Nets. James Harden is struggling big time out there with the ball. I had assumed this was because he spent his summer partying with rappers and is not in nba shape, but it seems like people are saying this is the result of rule changes taking the free throw line away from him. If it is rule changes to blame, the Nets need Kyrie bad at the point… I wonder how much longer this vaccine nonsense will rule all.

Looks like the new rule regarding calling fouls by the referees really hit Harden that bad. On average, Harden is taking 9 FTA per game but now he is only taking at least 3 FTA per game. A huge decrease and that is because of the new rules. The new rule hit him, Young, Doncic and those players who really like to lean on to the defenders to let them commit a foul. With the Nets currently 24th in offense and with a record of 2-3, they really need Kyrie but it seems like his ego still prevails and he still don't want to get vaccinated for his personal reasons and shit.

Well, the Lakers team still not fail to amaze me Cheesy

At one point, they lead by up to 26 at the 2nd quarter and they blew it all up at the 3rd quarter. Many here are blaming Ninja Turtle (Westbrook) but lets also blame his teammates who did awful on the second half. Scored 72 in the first half which is high already and only 43 on the second. I'm curious on what LeBron is saying to his teammates after the game Cheesy

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 28, 2021, 01:59:39 AM

While the Lakers woes continue, so do the Nets. James Harden is struggling big time out there with the ball. I had assumed this was because he spent his summer partying with rappers and is not in nba shape, but it seems like people are saying this is the result of rule changes taking the free throw line away from him. If it is rule changes to blame, the Nets need Kyrie bad at the point… I wonder how much longer this vaccine nonsense will rule all.

Looking at his stats on the FT on the game against the Heat, he only had 3 FT and made all 3, that was not his average back in the Houston Rockets and last season with the Nets.

As we can see in https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/player/_/stat/free-throws/table/offensive/sort/avgFreeThrowsMade/dir/desc (just filter the FTA) Harden is only ranked at number 47 which is too far compared to his previous seasons.

REGULAR SEASONS AVERAGE
2020-2021 FTA 7.3 average rank #8 ( team Nets)
2019-2020 FTA 11.8 average rank #1 (team Rockets)
2018-2019 FTA 11.0 average rank #1 (team Rockets)
2017-2018 FTA 10.1 average rank #1 (team Rockets)
2016-2017 FTA 10.9 average rank #1 (team Rockets)
2015-2016 FTA 10.2 average rank #1 (team Rockets)
2014-2015 FTA 10.2 average rank #1 (team Rockets)

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While the Lakers woes continue, so do the Nets. James Harden is struggling big time out there with the ball. I had assumed this was because he spent his summer partying with rappers and is not in nba shape, but it seems like people are saying this is the result of rule changes taking the free throw line away from him. If it is rule changes to blame, the Nets need Kyrie bad at the point… I wonder how much longer this vaccine nonsense will rule all.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on October 28, 2021, 01:02:49 AM

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the only solution to this so people will stop criticizing him is for him to win a championship.

No, he could be more efficient and smarter/sharper as a PG. I'm pretty sure he's a competitor and wants to win but he just couldn't do it all (nobody can). I've seen how he goes for rebounds that were like stealing from his own teammates. He could conserve some of his energy by trusting others more.

That's because he is used to stat padding way back in OKC, he already carried it to the Lakers.

His stats may be good but if the result is an "L", then that's still useless as basketball is a team game, not a one-man game.
Sorry to criticize Westbrook but that's how I see him, maybe Durant sees the same too.

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Can't believe everyone here is all-eyes on Westbrook and blaming his 10 turnovers for why the Lakers lose. Looks like they are only looking for the post-result stats and not actually watching the game live. Is he the only one playing at the Lakers? Their loss is because of the whole team's mistake and not just by one.

The clutch shot that got airball courtesy of Malik Monk is even the most embarrassing part of that game. Yeah, I admire his courage that he will take that shot because of what he did in their win against Spurs. He was given a good playing time but look at his game performance. Laker's defense got crashed maybe because they become confident that they will win the game.

Again, we should blame the whole Lakers and not just Westbrook. Don't just read headlines about that game but rather watch the whole game. If they won that game, for sure they will say, Westbrook, is now finding his rhythm lol.

It's still a long way before we can conclude that the Lakers with Westbrook is trash. We should just wait for that before anything else. Cheesy

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 28, 2021, 01:03:35 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 28, 2021, 12:54:03 AM

^ The most embarrassing quadruple double of all. This is why some people question his ability as a point guard. Up by as many as 26 points and still losing the game with those stats, this is probably the most embarrassing loss in his career. At least he's part of another history now Grin

I agree, what a way to make a quadruple double, LOL.

It is such an embarrassing moment that I think it will stick on Westbrook for a while this season.

And damn up by a close to 30 points at one point and then suddenly lost everything. I guess everyone knows that it's a recipe for a disaster having a lot of superstars in one team and the coach can't figure it out whose going to stay in the game and who's going out.

That was a hilarious meme and a fact at the same time but Westbrook really made a difference on that game even though at losy and he give his all, let's just be honest getting a triple-double isn't easy as it seems.

Was getting less superstars would really make a difference for Lakers if somehow that's the problem? I guess it is and they need more adjustments tbh. The coach should figure it out not just by allowing who's going to court because he's a superstar or superior or whatever, those who are on the court should have chemistry at all.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 28, 2021, 01:03:35 AM

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I guess everyone knows that it's a recipe for a disaster having a lot of superstars in one team and the coach can't figure it out whose going to stay in the game and who's going out.

With the way things are now, I wouldn't be surprised if this team breaks soon. AD vs. Dwight and now WB messed up performance.

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on October 28, 2021, 01:02:49 AM

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the only solution to this so people will stop criticizing him is for him to win a championship.

No, he could be more efficient and smarter/sharper as a PG. I'm pretty sure he's a competitor and wants to win but he just couldn't do it all (nobody can). I've seen how he goes for rebounds that were like stealing from his own teammates. He could conserve some of his energy by trusting others more.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 28, 2021, 01:03:35 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 28, 2021, 12:54:03 AM

^ The most embarrassing quadruple double of all. This is why some people question his ability as a point guard. Up by as many as 26 points and still losing the game with those stats, this is probably the most embarrassing loss in his career. At least he's part of another history now Grin

I agree, what a way to make a quadruple double, LOL.

It is such an embarrassing moment that I think it will stick on Westbrook for a while this season.

And damn up by a close to 30 points at one point and then suddenly lost everything. I guess everyone knows that it's a recipe for a disaster having a lot of superstars in one team and the coach can't figure it out whose going to stay in the game and who's going out.

They will learn from their mistakes, that's a classic Westbrook style but you can't blame him for the loss, it's the entire team and the coaching staff who should be blamed. What's important is that Westbrook had already found the offense of the Lakers and he is producing his extraordinary numbers for the team. As the season goes on, they will continue to make an adjustment until they can fully polish everything and they'll work as a team.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 28, 2021, 12:54:03 AM

^ The most embarrassing quadruple double of all. This is why some people question his ability as a point guard. Up by as many as 26 points and still losing the game with those stats, this is probably the most embarrassing loss in his career. At least he's part of another history now Grin

I agree, what a way to make a quadruple double, LOL.

It is such an embarrassing moment that I think it will stick on Westbrook for a while this season.

And damn up by a close to 30 points at one point and then suddenly lost everything. I guess everyone knows that it's a recipe for a disaster having a lot of superstars in one team and the coach can't figure it out whose going to stay in the game and who's going out.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 28, 2021, 12:54:03 AM

^ The most embarrassing quadruple double of all. This is why some people question his ability as a point guard. Up by as many as 26 points and still losing the game with those stats, this is probably the most embarrassing loss in his career. At least he's part of another history now Grin

But that's Westbrook, he cannot be perfect, anyone who makes a triple-double is just exceptional, maybe next time his teammates have to help him so he will not get exhausted and the Lakers will lose. Turnover is a big problem and Westbrook really played with a high turnover as he does not only pass the ball, he also attack and rebounds, and play good defense as well, the only solution to this so people will stop criticizing him is for him to win a championship.

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^ The most embarrassing quadruple double of all. This is why some people question his ability as a point guard. Up by as many as 26 points and still losing the game with those stats, this is probably the most embarrassing loss in his career. At least he's part of another history now Grin

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Westbrook made history for the Lakers as no one from this team has made Quadruple-Double yet, lol. just kidding.

Westbrook has a great game but he was too careless in handling the ball.

He got 14 rebounds, 13 assists, 20 points, and 10 BIG TURNOVERS.

Anyway, here are the players who really made a real Quadruple-Double in the NBA history.

1. Nate Thurmond – October 18, 1974
2. Alvin Robertson – February 18, 1986
3. Hakeem Olajuwon – March 3, 1990
4. Hakeem Olajuwon – March 29, 1990
5. David Robinson, February 17, 1994

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https://www.sportscasting.com/nba-a-complete-history-of-the-quadruple-double-2/

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It's Lakers vs Thunder indeed and with the Lakers' star players doubtful in this game I would be backing the Thunder for today's game plus they are playing in their homecourt. James and Davis are prone to injury lately if this will continue this will hurt them in the post-season just like last year so I think it would be best for the Lakers coaches to start thinking of load management.

Look at the Thunder's results in previous games. Their performances are unconvincing, considering that they haven't won any regular season games yet. So I doubt that the Thunder will be able to win the Lakers even if Lebron James and Anthony Davis don't play in the upcoming match.

Lakers having a huge lead against OKC now, so I would say chances are they are going to win their 3rd straight games. I have them parlay again, but it seems the Hawks are having a hard time against the Wizards, hopefully they can pull it off and so is the Clippers and the Suns. I think my bet is going to be close just like yesterday and it will be down to the wire again.

After that 1st quarter outburst by the Lakers I thought that I lost my bet already but thanks to Westbrook's 10 turn-overs, it helped the Thunder get back on this game. Honestly, I didn't expect the Thunder to win but if they gonna lose, I think it won't be more than 5 points as I think that Davis and James won't be playing in this game but Davis did suit up.

Lakers are creeping towards mediocrity. To think you can put that many injury prone or old players on a team and to think it will work just because of names is crazy. I can see them actually struggling to get in the home game first series (top 4). West is loaded this year. Jazz, Nuggets, gs, and clips/Suns better than them.

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Quote from: goinmerry on October 27, 2021, 06:59:39 PM

Chicago Bulls hype is now making noise in the NBA community.

Their last 4-0 record was way back 1997-98 season. I like to see the team competing in the Eastern Conference Finals at most. It's been a while since Chicago Bulls are included in the competition on the East. It's time now for the Chicago Bulls fans to experience again the same hype during the Jordan era (much better) and D. Rose era.

I would like to think even the Chicago fans will say yes 4-0 is nice but to say they are as excited as they were when mj was at the health isn't fair. I don't think derozen and lavine strum up the same confidence as when mj and pippin were doing their thing. But yes bb fans should be excited the torch is being passed from the powerhouses.

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Quote from: Dave1 on October 27, 2021, 07:56:35 PM

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It's Lakers vs Thunder indeed and with the Lakers' star players doubtful in this game I would be backing the Thunder for today's game plus they are playing in their homecourt. James and Davis are prone to injury lately if this will continue this will hurt them in the post-season just like last year so I think it would be best for the Lakers coaches to start thinking of load management.

Look at the Thunder's results in previous games. Their performances are unconvincing, considering that they haven't won any regular season games yet. So I doubt that the Thunder will be able to win the Lakers even if Lebron James and Anthony Davis don't play in the upcoming match.

Lakers having a huge lead against OKC now, so I would say chances are they are going to win their 3rd straight games. I have them parlay again, but it seems the Hawks are having a hard time against the Wizards, hopefully they can pull it off and so is the Clippers and the Suns. I think my bet is going to be close just like yesterday and it will be down to the wire again.

After that 1st quarter outburst by the Lakers I thought that I lost my bet already but thanks to Westbrook's 10 turn-overs, it helped the Thunder get back on this game. Honestly, I didn't expect the Thunder to win but if they gonna lose, I think it won't be more than 5 points as I think that Davis and James won't be playing in this game but Davis did suit up.

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^^ The Lakers did score a huge 1st quarter 41 points against 19 by the Thunder.

But it seems that the Thunder has chip down the lead as they already scored 30 points against the Lakers 20. So it might be close though, if Lakers are not careful about protecting the lead as OKC is also a good shooting team. Plenty of time, 21 point lead is not safe as we still have 2 full quarters left.

It's normal that the leading will slow down when they have a huge lead so that they can conserve energy on the last crucial quarter. They are now still leads 10 points in the 3rd quarter while OKC seems exhausted. Lakers performing well without LeBron, I'm they can win since Davis is in-charge on there points.

I overestimated the Lakers again, but it's funny that they lost this match. By the way, look at Westbrook stats. It seems that he decided to play for his former team in this match (I'm kidding). He made 20 points, 14 rebounds, 13 assists, and 10 turnovers. I know it doesn't count, but he made a quadruple-double. This guy is incorrigible. Grin

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Quote from: Coin_trader on October 27, 2021, 08:29:02 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on October 27, 2021, 08:01:19 PM

^^ The Lakers did score a huge 1st quarter 41 points against 19 by the Thunder.

But it seems that the Thunder has chip down the lead as they already scored 30 points against the Lakers 20. So it might be close though, if Lakers are not careful about protecting the lead as OKC is also a good shooting team. Plenty of time, 21 point lead is not safe as we still have 2 full quarters left.

It's normal that the leading will slow down when they have a huge lead so that they can conserve energy on the last crucial quarter. They are now still leads 10 points in the 3rd quarter while OKC seems exhausted. Lakers performing well without LeBron, I'm they can win since Davis is in-charge on there points.

Too bad, it messed with my parlay as the Lakers lost against the OKC in a very close game again.

I thought that they have this in the bag as they've built a good and comfortable lead. And they try to make a comeback in the last minutes of the game. But it wasn't enough, so no, they can't win without Lebron James. He is still the main pieces of this franchise. Try to make new multi bet and see if I can recover some.

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The Lakers vs Brooklyn game tomorrow is a preview of their possible match-up in the NBA finals and we will gonna see which team has less chance to win the champion after the game tomorrow. The Lakers have their superstars healthy and the Nets will also play well with Kevin Durant and James Harden tomorrow which will make it the most watch game and will gonna be a slap for the Lakers if they gonna lose this one. Hope they will gonna win though since they started with a devastating loss with GSW.

Honestly I think the better matchup which will be a dogfight will be the 4-0 bulls and the 3-1 knicks. Bulls haven't beaten anyone really good yet but their team has greatly improved, and the Knicks look even stronger than they did last year early on. Kemba dropping 5 dimes in what was a blowout of Philly last night. Knicks look legit, and have depth to get through tough stretches.

I love the Bulls this year though, but they need to have a game against a top team in the East to be able to say that they are for real. This is their strongest start since the Michael Jordan era, it might be early to say, but they are one of the dark horse team right now. With Zach Lavine, DeRozan, Lonzo Ball and Alex Caruso. They really look very solid.

Quote from: wheelz1200 on October 27, 2021, 07:53:30 AM

I don't think it will be a laker/Nets final. Nets aren't deep enough and Lakers need to get it together.

Both teams are still struggling, specially the Lakers, although they've already win 2 games in a row. It was very close and not against a top tier team. They still have a lot of work to be done.

Yeah the bulls and knicks game will be very telling. Knicks got some good in division wins so far this year. Bulls look tight. Primitive game tomorrow with both teams playing at a high level. Already got my popcorn ready.

Side note: Knicks last night beat the 6ers for the first time in like 15 or 16 games. Since 2017, and they did it convincingly. Go knicks!!!

I’m not going to lie I am some what nervous about betting this as I agree with this guy, we haven’t beaten anyone great yet, and two of the games were against the same team in the Pistons, who aren’t great by any means. The Raptors we just beat played us to the wire and while Van Fleet is fun to watch, he’s no Kahwi Leonard. So not great wins but wins nonetheless, looking forward to this showdown, will be great test for them both.

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