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June 08, 2024, 02:00:25 PM
Do you watch the game? Dallas is completely outplayed on their own game. Their center which is effective to Minnesota is not that impactful on their game against Boston. Boston has tons of blocks against them while they are beaten badly on scoring. Based on the 1st game, their winning chance is not that high anymore.

First of all, they were so comfortable in this match because the Boston Celtics played very well in the first quarter, everyone who watched the match will say this. In such matches, the venue in which the match is played is of great importance. There was no serious difference between the teams at the beginning of the match, but with the influence of the fans in the TD Garden , a serious difference emerged in the last 3-4 minutes of the first quarter. But it would not be right to say that Dallas was out of the game, the point difference was down to 9 in the 3rd quarter. They could have caught Celtics, but it didn't happen.

Porzingis' contribution to the team was huge, but Dallas could not take adequate precautions regarding it. I'm sure we will see a different defense in the second match. If Dallas wins the next game, we can start talking about different things in the final series. That's why we should be aware that we have only left the first match behind. It would not be right to say that Boston Celtics is the favorite team and think that the matches are over Smiley
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June 08, 2024, 12:20:57 PM
I think the players of Boston Celtics will be so glad to be playing against Dallas Mavericks in the NBA finals. Dallas Mavericks did surprised me by eliminating Oklahoma City Thunder and Minnesota Timberwolves in order to reach the NBA finals but it seems they are just doing Boston Celtics a great favor. I guess Boston Celtics will be able to beat Dallas Mavericks again in their upcoming match and lead the series by 2-0.

By looking at game one performance made by Boston it really make sense that Mavs doesn't have any proper match up for the current rotation what Boston have. They struggle so much when Boston tighten up their defence against them and if they can't do anything like if we don't see any huge adjustment will be made on game two then provably we could see a 0-2 in favor on Boston will happen. If Mavs would ever let Boston will take again on game two then maybe we will see a sweep in finals and that is a huge shame for their team so hopefully they fight back and don't let this to happen.

I also wonder what will happen if Wolves is the one who proceed to finals maybe Boston we might see that Boston will see more close match up between them and Kat and Gobert would provably have some answer on defensive pressure given by Boston.
I don't see a sweep. Mavs have the firepower but maybe they are surprised with what the Boston Celtics can do. They have too many offensive players and Derrick White had been shooting lights out too.
The problem that I saw was the lack of lob pass on the inside. If the two popular guards of the Mavs can somehow make Lively and Gafford join the offensive aggression then maybe they will have more options and that is where the Celtics will get confused about what is about to happen next. Luka Doncic had 1 assist only on Game 1 which means he had not been passing the ball.
I think that's the aftershock of dominating Game 5 against the Timberwolves. He certainly did most of the damage on that game but it's time to go back to being the Luka that will kick the ball out or find the big man to lob the ball.

And credit also with the good defense of Boston Luka can't find that opening so instead of passing the ball he mostly take the shots, both him and Kyrie needs to create that space and make their teammates move for the rotations, if they manage to adjsut with how they really playing the game it will be an interesting next game for both teams, Boston needs to secure their home court advantage while Mavs will attempt again to snatch a game and switch that edge to their favor in terms of home court advantage.
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June 08, 2024, 11:40:21 AM
I think the players of Boston Celtics will be so glad to be playing against Dallas Mavericks in the NBA finals. Dallas Mavericks did surprised me by eliminating Oklahoma City Thunder and Minnesota Timberwolves in order to reach the NBA finals but it seems they are just doing Boston Celtics a great favor. I guess Boston Celtics will be able to beat Dallas Mavericks again in their upcoming match and lead the series by 2-0.

By looking at game one performance made by Boston it really make sense that Mavs doesn't have any proper match up for the current rotation what Boston have. They struggle so much when Boston tighten up their defence against them and if they can't do anything like if we don't see any huge adjustment will be made on game two then provably we could see a 0-2 in favor on Boston will happen. If Mavs would ever let Boston will take again on game two then maybe we will see a sweep in finals and that is a huge shame for their team so hopefully they fight back and don't let this to happen.

I also wonder what will happen if Wolves is the one who proceed to finals maybe Boston we might see that Boston will see more close match up between them and Kat and Gobert would provably have some answer on defensive pressure given by Boston.
I don't see a sweep. Mavs have the firepower but maybe they are surprised with what the Boston Celtics can do. They have too many offensive players and Derrick White had been shooting lights out too.
The problem that I saw was the lack of lob pass on the inside. If the two popular guards of the Mavs can somehow make Lively and Gafford join the offensive aggression then maybe they will have more options and that is where the Celtics will get confused about what is about to happen next. Luka Doncic had 1 assist only on Game 1 which means he had not been passing the ball.
I think that's the aftershock of dominating Game 5 against the Timberwolves. He certainly did most of the damage on that game but it's time to go back to being the Luka that will kick the ball out or find the big man to lob the ball.
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June 08, 2024, 09:43:25 AM
+7.5... That's very tempting if you'll ask me.

Take that or regret missing the opportunity to bet on them as heavy underdogs. If Dallas upsets the Celtics in Game 2, we won't see that handicap in the succeeding games, especially if Dallas wins the two games on their home court. There are still a lot of doubts about Dallas in Game 2 because they were completely outplayed in Game 1, but as the fans are saying, that's just Game 1. This is the finals and a long series.

The question is, how will they upset the Celtics?
Luka's heavily guarded by not only Holiday, but all of Celtics' players, and at the same time, Porzingis is what I'm considering as the X-factor on this series because his presence inside the court has an impact towards the whole team. He's very efficient on offense, and a very reliable defender inside the paint as well, and at the same time, he's way faster than both Lively and Gafford.

+7.5 for me is something that I will not take if I'm betting (IMO) because I don't see any way for the Mavericks to upset the Celtics on their own home, but who knows. I mean the Celtics have a curse of losing their Game 2 in their first 2 series. Cheesy

I think the players of Boston Celtics will be so glad to be playing against Dallas Mavericks in the NBA finals. Dallas Mavericks did surprised me by eliminating Oklahoma City Thunder and Minnesota Timberwolves in order to reach the NBA finals but it seems they are just doing Boston Celtics a great favor. I guess Boston Celtics will be able to beat Dallas Mavericks again in their upcoming match and lead the series by 2-0.
TBH, the NBA Finals would be better if the Nuggets and the Celtics are the ones that faced. Cheesy

Kidding aside, I agree with what you said that the Celtics are happy to face them, and it will be harder for them if they will face the Nuggets because they're like equally matched. As for OKC being eliminated, it's not surprising for me considering that they are inexperienced in the playoffs (both the players and the coach). I predicted that the Mavericks will win on this one in 7 games, but looking at how the Celtics demolished them in Game 1, I'm already thinking that my prediction might be wrong. Cheesy
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June 08, 2024, 07:53:00 AM
I think the players of Boston Celtics will be so glad to be playing against Dallas Mavericks in the NBA finals. Dallas Mavericks did surprised me by eliminating Oklahoma City Thunder and Minnesota Timberwolves in order to reach the NBA finals but it seems they are just doing Boston Celtics a great favor. I guess Boston Celtics will be able to beat Dallas Mavericks again in their upcoming match and lead the series by 2-0.

By looking at game one performance made by Boston it really make sense that Mavs doesn't have any proper match up for the current rotation what Boston have. They struggle so much when Boston tighten up their defence against them and if they can't do anything like if we don't see any huge adjustment will be made on game two then provably we could see a 0-2 in favor on Boston will happen. If Mavs would ever let Boston will take again on game two then maybe we will see a sweep in finals and that is a huge shame for their team so hopefully they fight back and don't let this to happen.

I also wonder what will happen if Wolves is the one who proceed to finals maybe Boston we might see that Boston will see more close match up between them and Kat and Gobert would provably have some answer on defensive pressure given by Boston.
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June 08, 2024, 07:09:59 AM
I think the players of Boston Celtics will be so glad to be playing against Dallas Mavericks in the NBA finals. Dallas Mavericks did surprised me by eliminating Oklahoma City Thunder and Minnesota Timberwolves in order to reach the NBA finals but it seems they are just doing Boston Celtics a great favor. I guess Boston Celtics will be able to beat Dallas Mavericks again in their upcoming match and lead the series by 2-0.
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June 08, 2024, 05:30:16 AM
+7.5... That's very tempting if you'll ask me.

Take that or regret missing the opportunity to bet on them as heavy underdogs. If Dallas upsets the Celtics in Game 2, we won't see that handicap in the succeeding games, especially if Dallas wins the two games on their home court. There are still a lot of doubts about Dallas in Game 2 because they were completely outplayed in Game 1, but as the fans are saying, that's just Game 1. This is the finals and a long series.
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June 08, 2024, 05:02:36 AM
Last night the Boston Celtics won the first game and took a 1-0 lead in the series.

I didn't think Dallas would end with such a big difference, I even thought they would win.
Doncic fought alone yesterday, I think, Kyri was bad last night, he couldn't support the team. Players like this are very important in these kinds of games, if you can't get support from them, you always have a high chance of losing.
Most of us thought that they're going to win against the Celtics but no.
In the series, yes, but in game 1, I think most of us think the Celtics will win as they are the heavy favorite to win.
Usually, odds are based on the perception of the bettors, that's why I said most of us believe the Celtics will win, however, it's different from the betting points handicap as Dallas had more bettors on that.
The odds for the Mavs was interesting and that's why I think many have bet for them.

When players are in a bad shape and didn't have a great performance especially their main players, this would end up badly for the team.

I think most teams should really develop each and everyone from the bench, those that they can rely on. Not mostly to the rookies but there are exceptional ones.

They really need some help out there.

It's not that they are in bad shape, it's about the strategy of the game where the Celtics had a better one, but comes game 2, expect a big adjustment as Dallas will now allow they'll loss via blowout again.
I'm sure that they're going to adjust big by game 2.

Sure they will not allow to have a 2 straight loss on a finals game. But that can change, the pulse of most of us are going to change if ever they win by game 2.
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June 08, 2024, 03:40:40 AM

It's really more on the high shooting percentage by the Celtics, and then KP was back contributed big 20 points and then they have a good defensive plan against Luka and they check Kyrie too. No lob pass, almost no assists from Luka and Kyrie has a bad night. And again, it just takes just one quarter to know who's going to win although they mounted a great comeback to cut the lead down to 8. But when the Celtics called a time-out, it was very different again in the 3rd quarter.

It was the 3 point shooting and the attack in the paint where the Mavericks can't adjust since it's easy for them to kick out the ball and since they are 3 point shooters, they can easily score. However, if the defense will be tighter in game 2, I think Celtics shooting will struggle a bit, but let's see what Dallas will make for their adjustment.

After seeing game 1, I'm now backing Dallas to win game 2, or maybe at least to cover the handicap.

+7.5... That's very tempting if you'll ask me.
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June 08, 2024, 02:43:21 AM
Last night the Boston Celtics won the first game and took a 1-0 lead in the series.

Well I have the Celtics winning though, but I think the sentimental favorites is Mavs here because they wanted to have an upset and Luka has a lot of fans here.

I didn't think Dallas would end with such a big difference, I even thought they would win.
Doncic fought alone yesterday, I think, Kyri was bad last night, he couldn't support the team. Players like this are very important in these kinds of games, if you can't get support from them, you always have a high chance of losing.

It's really more on the high shooting percentage by the Celtics, and then KP was back contributed big 20 points and then they have a good defensive plan against Luka and they check Kyrie too. No lob pass, almost no assists from Luka and Kyrie has a bad night. And again, it just takes just one quarter to know who's going to win although they mounted a great comeback to cut the lead down to 8. But when the Celtics called a time-out, it was very different again in the 3rd quarter.
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June 08, 2024, 02:41:56 AM
Last night the Boston Celtics won the first game and took a 1-0 lead in the series.

I didn't think Dallas would end with such a big difference, I even thought they would win.
Doncic fought alone yesterday, I think, Kyri was bad last night, he couldn't support the team. Players like this are very important in these kinds of games, if you can't get support from them, you always have a high chance of losing.
Most of us thought that they're going to win against the Celtics but no.
In the series, yes, but in game 1, I think most of us think the Celtics will win as they are the heavy favorite to win.
Usually, odds are based on the perception of the bettors, that's why I said most of us believe the Celtics will win, however, it's different from the betting points handicap as Dallas had more bettors on that.

When players are in a bad shape and didn't have a great performance especially their main players, this would end up badly for the team.

I think most teams should really develop each and everyone from the bench, those that they can rely on. Not mostly to the rookies but there are exceptional ones.

They really need some help out there.

It's not that they are in bad shape, it's about the strategy of the game where the Celtics had a better one, but comes game 2, expect a big adjustment as Dallas will now allow they'll loss via blowout again.
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June 07, 2024, 06:27:52 PM
Last night the Boston Celtics won the first game and took a 1-0 lead in the series.

I didn't think Dallas would end with such a big difference, I even thought they would win.
Doncic fought alone yesterday, I think, Kyri was bad last night, he couldn't support the team. Players like this are very important in these kinds of games, if you can't get support from them, you always have a high chance of losing.
Most of us thought that they're going to win against the Celtics but no.

When players are in a bad shape and didn't have a great performance especially their main players, this would end up badly for the team.

I think most teams should really develop each and everyone from the bench, those that they can rely on. Not mostly to the rookies but there are exceptional ones.

They really need some help out there.
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June 07, 2024, 05:52:27 PM
Last night the Boston Celtics won the first game and took a 1-0 lead in the series.

I didn't think Dallas would end with such a big difference, I even thought they would win.
Doncic fought alone yesterday, I think, Kyri was bad last night, he couldn't support the team. Players like this are very important in these kinds of games, if you can't get support from them, you always have a high chance of losing.
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June 07, 2024, 04:46:37 PM
I feel sorry for Dallas Mavericks but i think this is gonna be one of the easiest finals to win for Boston Celtics, they detroy them yesterday nad i think they are gonna destroy them also in the next games.

You can see how big was the gap in all the game, never stand a chance for Dallas.

I think you might be right but I hope you’re wrong. While it sucks we have to wait until Sunday to see game 2, that’s probably a good thing for the Mavericks as it gives them a lot of time to study game tape and work on how to better play the Celtics. I hope we don’t see a sweep, but I’m leaning towards that being the case also.
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June 07, 2024, 10:57:50 AM
I feel sorry for Dallas Mavericks but i think this is gonna be one of the easiest finals to win for Boston Celtics, they detroy them yesterday nad i think they are gonna destroy them also in the next games.

You can see how big was the gap in all the game, never stand a chance for Dallas.
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June 07, 2024, 05:59:31 AM
2 words to describe Game 1. TOTAL DOMINATION.

The Celtics were too good in the first half, especially in the first quarter. And I think the Mavs didn't expect and were discouraged by Porzingis' performance in the first half. Let's see if the Mavs can make the necessary adjustments in the second game, but it's already clear that the second game of the final series will be critical for the Mavs because if they are down 0-2, they will hardly be able to recover from that.
They'll make an adjustment in game 2, that's necessary for them to hav a chance to even the series. The problem with the Mavericks is they are still using the same strategy when they beat the Wolves, this is a diferent team now with all the starters are great 3 point shooters.

Just check out the starting 5.

Brown     2-6
Tatum   3-7
White     3-8
Holiday    2-5
Horford     2-5

See that numbers, all of them are threat in the outside so Celtics can't leave the corner like they do with the Wolves. They need to play good one on one defense so they'll be able to limit the opportunity of some kick out pass when the Celtics are trying to attack the paint.
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June 07, 2024, 05:27:19 AM
2 words to describe Game 1. TOTAL DOMINATION.

The Celtics were too good in the first half, especially in the first quarter. And I think the Mavs didn't expect and were discouraged by Porzingis' performance in the first half. Let's see if the Mavs can make the necessary adjustments in the second game, but it's already clear that the second game of the final series will be critical for the Mavs because if they are down 0-2, they will hardly be able to recover from that.
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June 07, 2024, 05:18:22 AM
I want Jayson Tatum to win the MVP if Boston wins the championships but it's more like Brown or who knows even Porzingis and Holiday can win it too. Tatum playing 42 minutes looks like people wanted him to win the MVP. While Brown and Porzingis already went out of the game earlier. But I am seeing Brown and some of the players more confident than Tatum. I want Tatum to keep driving inside and just make assists or fouls.

Anyways, what a game. I expected a blowout win by the Celtics and it happened. I just did not expect Porzingis to be that deadly on his first return after months of inactivity.

It is very difficult to predict who will be the MVP in the first match. When we look at the performances in the first match, it is a little difficult to say that he was a player who played well, he was not a shining star. At least when we look at the statistics, we can say that we cannot see this.
Let's see who will win the final series, I think the probability of Dallas Maverics winning is quite high Smiley

Do you mean Boston? As they are taking a 1-0 lead unless the Dallas team comes back and win in game 2 and then sweep the Celtics playing at their own homecourt. So base on game 1 alone, the Celtics is the overwhelming favorite to win the finals now.

But as others have said, this is just game 1, so let's see, it's a battle of adjustment, Jason Kidd has been a former player so he knows what's at stake and losing game one. So he will make some correction along the way to at least make it even and steal game 2 from the Celtics, tall task but not impossible to do.
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June 07, 2024, 05:11:23 AM
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It is very difficult to predict who will be the MVP in the first match. When we look at the performances in the first match, it is a little difficult to say that he was a player who played well, he was not a shining star. At least when we look at the statistics, we can say that we cannot see this.

Tatum usually step up when he needs the most. Today’s match is a balance game performance to all Celtics players since even Tatum has below average score, he still gets tons of rebounds and assist which balance his stats for a good candidate for MVP. It’s always Tatum has a high chance of MVP if ever they will seal this championship.


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Let's see who will win the final series, I think the probability of Dallas Mavericks winning is quite high Smiley

Do you watch the game? Dallas is completely outplayed on their own game. Their center which is effective to Minnesota is not that impactful on their game against Boston. Boston has tons of blocks against them while they are beaten badly on scoring. Based on the 1st game, their winning chance is not that high anymore.
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June 07, 2024, 05:06:27 AM
NBA scamming us again. How the fuck did Jayson Tatum only scored 16 points in 42 minutes of playing time, while KP played 20 minutes and scored 20+ points? 6/16 for Jayson Tatum. This is unbelievable. If he will keep playing like this he won't win NBA Finals this year. Brown or Holiday will make it. Worst night for Kyrie Irving too 37 mins for 12 points. 🤧

A very bad night for Kyrie Irving but we all saw how these guys could bounce cback, it's actually more scary.

I think the key to winning for the Celtics was shutting down Luka Doncic's passing ability. He still scored 30 points but only made 1 assist. Then, the defensive awareness of the Celtics against an offensive team like the Mavs was also showcased tonight. I thought it would become Lob City but it seems like Luka forgot that he has centers that always look above the rim as he throws it up but I only saw him try it once. Horford is too small for Gafford and Lively, even KP will have a hard time against them.

But all credit to JB's defense. I think he got 2 or 3 blocks and steals too. One of them will go to the highlights after he blocked the dunk attempt of the former dunk champion Derrick Jones Jr.

It's their defense that really killed the Mavs in this game, they've force turn-overs, and they challenge every one when they penetrate the inside. And then the cool KP, just smiling when hitting those outside 3 as if challenging the Mavs to guard him.

Luka can't lob the pass because the Celtics is guarding the rim, and if I'm not mistaken, Luka try it but Brown was their to block it or change the course of the shot of either Gafford or Lively. So let's see how the Mavs are going to adjust in the second game. They don't want to go 0-2 against the Celtics.

Good preparation for the Celtics as they dominated the Mavs in the early stretch and continue maintaining that confidence, they manage to outrun the Dallas in both ends, and yeah, it's the good defense that  gives them that edge, they manage to limit the rotation of Mavs and force them to go one on one, though Luka still got his numbers but without the good support from the entire squad he can't carry the very balance productions of Celtics, both cores and the support cast are really bringing the help and it's tough to beat the kind of squad that's played with a great blend and chemistries.

I want Jayson Tatum to win the MVP if Boston wins the championships but it's more like Brown or who knows even Porzingis and Holiday can win it too. Tatum playing 42 minutes looks like people wanted him to win the MVP. While Brown and Porzingis already went out of the game earlier. But I am seeing Brown and some of the players more confident than Tatum. I want Tatum to keep driving inside and just make assists or fouls.

Anyways, what a game. I expected a blowout win by the Celtics and it happened. I just did not expect Porzingis to be that deadly on his first return after months of inactivity.

Brown has a terrific game again, not just in offense, but playing defense against Luka and had couple of blocks if I'm not mistaken. And he has that momentum from being the Eastern conference finals MVP, and so it will carry him over this series and maybe if he is consistent, maybe he will won the Finals MVP.

I don't think the KP will win the MVP here, yeah just a good game in his comeback, but for sure the Mavs might have to change on how they are going to guard him and maybe put Gafford and not allow a switch as he had that in this game and have a smaller player on him and so easy mid range jumper or a three from 30 feet.

Both Brown and KP got very decent productions and not just for the offense but also with their defense, Brown still have that MVP performance and if he continue doing that same momentum more likely he can also win the final MVP, though it's only the first game and for sure Mavs will find ways to adjust and counter the system of Boston, let see if how they'll going to adjust and how they will try to snatch a game inside the Garden.
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