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September 02, 2021, 12:30:30 AM
^ Yeah, and the only teams that can make Ben stand out is, I don't know how I'm going to call it but "second tier team" right now, those who didn't make the playoffs last year or sort of looking for a franchise player. He can't squeeze himself around to top teams like GSW, no, I don't think it will work it out. Maybe teams that in the borderline playoff bound, but didn't make it by just a game or two. And maybe Ben can be a perfect fit to elevate that team and will be a challenge to him as well and forget his Sixers playoff performance.
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September 02, 2021, 12:09:47 AM
That's the problem with NBA now, they exaggerated highlighting the offensive players leaving the defensive ones no room to be superstars.
Yeah, there's no more Dennis Rodman or Ben Wallace, more on offensive scoring champ who can contribute a lot.
Someone who agreed with me, I didn't expect that but thank you bro. Ben Simmons is really at the spotlight now and articles are being made left and right.
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/draymond-green-trade-table-warriors-ben-simmons-interest
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Listening, after all, does not necessarily equate to interest. According to league sources, any interest the Warriors might have in Simmons is conditional. In short, they’re not that interested as long as Draymond Green is on the roster.
I don't think the Warriors could make a deal with him. Draymond is the core of GSW and putting another playmaker like Ben might become a problem for them unless he accepts to be in a 2nd team, give way for Green or a roleplayer rebounder.
That will not be a joyful place and I think he won't like it too and will just look for another trade next year. He should look for a place where he could be the core just like how Draymond is being highlighted whenever GSW runs for offense and defense.
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September 01, 2021, 11:35:25 PM
I still think that Simmons should be a better shooter by now but I actually like this if it's going to happen. Coach Pop loves team plays more than individual skills/performance that's why it could be a perfect fit for both. I just don't know what Sixers want out of Spurs to agree with the trade. Like what @Reid said, it seems like SA have nothing much to offer.
Yeah, maybe coach Pop can developed Ben even more specially his shooting as we all know that Pop has the ability to motivate players and bring the best of them. But SA has nothing to offer though in the table if they decided to trade, maybe a future draft picks but as far as the current lineup, not sure if Sixers are interested on anyone one of them.

So the saga of Ben still continues, no one is taking the bait so far
If anyone can improve Bens shooter that would be Chip Engelland who is the shooting coach for San Antonio Spurs for the past 16 years or so, he is the one who fixed Tony Parkers shooting most famously back in the day and even helped Kawhi to gain some shooting as well. So, I think if anyone could help Ben become a decent shooter it would be him, however I do not feel like Ben would be ready to give it a go psychologically, dude has been a horrible shooter all his life forever and people mock him for it, people even leave him wide open on the three point line and because of that dude lacks the scoring numbers that he could had if he was guarded a bit closer.

What the f**k? I didn't know the Chip Engelland was the shooting coach of Spurs. Thanks for the info mate.

For those Filipino out there, I'm sure a lot of you are posting in this thread, Chip Engelland become naturalized Filipino citizen and play for the Philippine National Team in the 80's. Damn, I'm really that old.  Grin. Chip was known to be a good shooter back in the days, I consider his shooting touch like Oscar Schmidt, another great basketball player and shooter from Brazil.


In any case, then Ben has a bright future as Chip could help him fix his shooting form and could vastly improved if he move to San Antonio with coach Pop at the helm.
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September 01, 2021, 08:15:36 PM

Possibly could get it a little better but his shooting mechanics are terrible.  Dude is a good player on a good team that's the extent.  His vision rebounding and other basketball skills are definately plus.  If the kid could shoot he'd be a top 10 talent in the league.  Got the height to crush other guards.  Hope he figures it out

The free throw is the only problem, in terms of defense, he is very effective and he also has a good vision in the court as he has a good record on the assist. He is still young, I believe he will be able to develop his shooting, not necessarily to shoot 3s but his free throw has to be developed as he is aggressive on the floor and he can go inside the basket.

But to be a complete NBA player in today's era, you really need to shot outside including beyond the arc.  In terms of assists, again we can talk about Magic and Stockton, those two are good free throw shooters as well, so not just in assists department. Yeah, still young but he should developed by now, he has been in the NBA already, but today standards it seems that he is going backward. He is aggressive so chances are he is going to be fouled and sent to the free throws and then makes 1 out 2 or worst miss both.
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September 01, 2021, 06:21:39 PM

Possibly could get it a little better but his shooting mechanics are terrible.  Dude is a good player on a good team that's the extent.  His vision rebounding and other basketball skills are definately plus.  If the kid could shoot he'd be a top 10 talent in the league.  Got the height to crush other guards.  Hope he figures it out

The free throw is the only problem, in terms of defense, he is very effective and he also has a good vision in the court as he has a good record on the assist. He is still young, I believe he will be able to develop his shooting, not necessarily to shoot 3s but his free throw has to be developed as he is aggressive on the floor and he can go inside the basket.

Anything outside of 7ft is an issue for him.  He can drive and when he is at the rim he is fine.  The fact that not every player can't shoot at least 80% ALL the time is crazy.  I mean this is what they do for a job.  When I was playing all the time free throws become easy.  Find the range and repeat the motion not really that hard.  Not saying there isn't pressure situations but consistently they should be able to hit.
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September 01, 2021, 04:06:35 PM

Possibly could get it a little better but his shooting mechanics are terrible.  Dude is a good player on a good team that's the extent.  His vision rebounding and other basketball skills are definately plus.  If the kid could shoot he'd be a top 10 talent in the league.  Got the height to crush other guards.  Hope he figures it out

The free throw is the only problem, in terms of defense, he is very effective and he also has a good vision in the court as he has a good record on the assist. He is still young, I believe he will be able to develop his shooting, not necessarily to shoot 3s but his free throw has to be developed as he is aggressive on the floor and he can go inside the basket.

I was expecting him to improve more last season as if I remember it correctly he made his first three-point shot last season, the rally of sixers after acquiring Doc Rivers is great.

They've been a good contender during the regular season and Simmons is a good part of that rally. But he's been exposed during the playoffs, he's confidence to take the shots is being questioned, one time there's a possible open dunk but he passed the ball and lose that opportunity.

He needs to bring that same level of game; the coach needs to give him the confidence he's still young and a lot of things can still be learned from this sport.

That's the most unforgettable moment we have in that series, actually in the first few series where they dominated their opponent, Simons was contributing his usual I guess, but it's different with the Hawks series as they have a strategy to foul him everytime he had the ball and that probably has affected his confidence that every time he had the ball, he will just pass it as he does not trust his free throw shooting.
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September 01, 2021, 04:01:06 PM

Possibly could get it a little better but his shooting mechanics are terrible.  Dude is a good player on a good team that's the extent.  His vision rebounding and other basketball skills are definately plus.  If the kid could shoot he'd be a top 10 talent in the league.  Got the height to crush other guards.  Hope he figures it out

The free throw is the only problem, in terms of defense, he is very effective and he also has a good vision in the court as he has a good record on the assist. He is still young, I believe he will be able to develop his shooting, not necessarily to shoot 3s but his free throw has to be developed as he is aggressive on the floor and he can go inside the basket.

I was expecting him to improve more last season as if I remember it correctly he made his first three-point shot last season, the rally of sixers after acquiring Doc Rivers is great.

They've been a good contender during the regular season and Simmons is a good part of that rally. But he's been exposed during the playoffs, he's confidence to take the shots is being questioned, one time there's a possible open dunk but he passed the ball and lose that opportunity.

He needs to bring that same level of game; the coach needs to give him the confidence he's still young and a lot of things can still be learned from this sport.
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September 01, 2021, 03:28:36 PM

Possibly could get it a little better but his shooting mechanics are terrible.  Dude is a good player on a good team that's the extent.  His vision rebounding and other basketball skills are definately plus.  If the kid could shoot he'd be a top 10 talent in the league.  Got the height to crush other guards.  Hope he figures it out

The free throw is the only problem, in terms of defense, he is very effective and he also has a good vision in the court as he has a good record on the assist. He is still young, I believe he will be able to develop his shooting, not necessarily to shoot 3s but his free throw has to be developed as he is aggressive on the floor and he can go inside the basket.
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September 01, 2021, 02:41:10 PM
I still think that Simmons should be a better shooter by now but I actually like this if it's going to happen. Coach Pop loves team plays more than individual skills/performance that's why it could be a perfect fit for both. I just don't know what Sixers want out of Spurs to agree with the trade. Like what @Reid said, it seems like SA have nothing much to offer.
Yeah, maybe coach Pop can developed Ben even more specially his shooting as we all know that Pop has the ability to motivate players and bring the best of them. But SA has nothing to offer though in the table if they decided to trade, maybe a future draft picks but as far as the current lineup, not sure if Sixers are interested on anyone one of them.

So the saga of Ben still continues, no one is taking the bait so far
If anyone can improve Bens shooter that would be Chip Engelland who is the shooting coach for San Antonio Spurs for the past 16 years or so, he is the one who fixed Tony Parkers shooting most famously back in the day and even helped Kawhi to gain some shooting as well. So, I think if anyone could help Ben become a decent shooter it would be him, however I do not feel like Ben would be ready to give it a go psychologically, dude has been a horrible shooter all his life forever and people mock him for it, people even leave him wide open on the three point line and because of that dude lacks the scoring numbers that he could had if he was guarded a bit closer.

Spurs also do not have too many shooters in the team right now, they are getting better over course of years because they are young and learning, but another non-shooter on the team doesn't feel like what they need.

Possibly could get it a little better but his shooting mechanics are terrible.  Dude is a good player on a good team that's the extent.  His vision rebounding and other basketball skills are definately plus.  If the kid could shoot he'd be a top 10 talent in the league.  Got the height to crush other guards.  Hope he figures it out
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September 01, 2021, 01:16:17 PM
I still think that Simmons should be a better shooter by now but I actually like this if it's going to happen. Coach Pop loves team plays more than individual skills/performance that's why it could be a perfect fit for both. I just don't know what Sixers want out of Spurs to agree with the trade. Like what @Reid said, it seems like SA have nothing much to offer.
Yeah, maybe coach Pop can developed Ben even more specially his shooting as we all know that Pop has the ability to motivate players and bring the best of them. But SA has nothing to offer though in the table if they decided to trade, maybe a future draft picks but as far as the current lineup, not sure if Sixers are interested on anyone one of them.

So the saga of Ben still continues, no one is taking the bait so far
If anyone can improve Bens shooter that would be Chip Engelland who is the shooting coach for San Antonio Spurs for the past 16 years or so, he is the one who fixed Tony Parkers shooting most famously back in the day and even helped Kawhi to gain some shooting as well. So, I think if anyone could help Ben become a decent shooter it would be him, however I do not feel like Ben would be ready to give it a go psychologically, dude has been a horrible shooter all his life forever and people mock him for it, people even leave him wide open on the three point line and because of that dude lacks the scoring numbers that he could had if he was guarded a bit closer.

Spurs also do not have too many shooters in the team right now, they are getting better over course of years because they are young and learning, but another non-shooter on the team doesn't feel like what they need.
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September 01, 2021, 01:01:35 PM
With Simmons, I don't want to conclude still how he already is because I think that he can still improve if he will be traded into another team. Now if he will be traded and nothing changes then Simmons really is the problem and after that, no one for sure will get him so the ending is he will go back to Australia and play to his national team.
I think Simmons is the problem, considering that he ignored team management and teammates during the off-season. It shows that he is not resistant to stress. So I doubt that Simmons can improve even if he will play next season in another team. By the way, there are rumors that Simmons might be traded to the Kings.
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September 01, 2021, 12:37:08 PM

Defense is also one of the key in winning games and Ben have that. He is tall, he is fast and can steal the ball and I bet coaches who focus with defense will try their luck with this guy.
Simmons has this qualification, he can defend and with his height, his speed is his advantage. Coach who knows how to work with this kind of player can maximize him, and all those potential inside him might help the team, whichever he may go. Giving him proper mentorship for him to dedicate himself to keep improving his skills and talents.

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That's the problem with NBA now, they exaggerated highlighting the offensive players leaving the defensive ones no room to be superstars.

Yeah, there's no more Dennis Rodman or Ben Wallace, more on offensive scoring champ who can contribute a lot.
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September 01, 2021, 11:50:48 AM
But in this era, shooters are the norm and no more of a Magic Johnson or John Stockton assists style.

So he really need to learn to shot otherwise, no teams are going to get him. Not to force him, but to let him know that importance of free throws and making it as it spells the difference between winning and losing. Giannis is a bad shooter in free throws, but you can see that he is trying his best even at three points. Unlike Ben who haven't even try to shoot for three because he is afraid that he will missed it.
This is why Shaq cried when Giannis took the championship. The game changed a lot but what brought the Bucks to the championship is a star who specialized in inside offense. Yes, I agree it's the norm now but that doesn't mean a high percentage shooting team will always be on top.
Defense is also one of the key in winning games and Ben have that. He is tall, he is fast and can steal the ball and I bet coaches who focus with defense will try their luck with this guy.
That's the problem with NBA now, they exaggerated highlighting the offensive players leaving the defensive ones no room to be superstars.
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September 01, 2021, 09:06:19 AM
Simmons should get inspired to this happenings and work with his shots so that he can get a good revenge once he is on another team and face 76ers on a game.
Some experts see Simmons as a problem, so he can't keep proving in a team that does not anymore appreciate him.
Embiid is very effective, and he is truly a star, but if he doesn't have an attitude of a real team captain, this team will still face struggle even in the long run.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2875498-joel-embiid-ben-simmons-problem-discussed-by-76ers-gm-elton-brand

Enough for the 76ers.. I guess Simmons should be sent to a new home.
With Simmons, I don't want to conclude still how he already is because I think that he can still improve if he will be traded into another team. Now if he will be traded and nothing changes then Simmons really is the problem and after that, no one for sure will get him so the ending is he will go back to Australia and play to his national team.

With Embiid, I agree with you that I don't see him as a floor general like how CP3 is doing in the Suns. Yes he is an all-star but being the captain of the team? I don't think that he can fulfill that role too. Another all-star aside from him might change the whole team but with only Embiid, I don't see them winning a championship.

Ohh wait, they also have a choking coach Cheesy. Choked against the Nuggets in the first bubble and now choked against the Hawks last season Cheesy. JK Coach Doc is still one of the best coaches Cheesy.
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September 01, 2021, 08:02:58 AM

I guess the play is more so focus on Embiid, they have a lot of talented players like Tobias Harris as well who should constantly attack, but his contribution is still not enough to take over when Embiid is struggling. The problem with the style is that Embiid will eventually gas out in the 4th quarter, and it would be easy for the opposite team to have a run as they have a better team work, and we have seen that during the Hawks vs 76ers series.

Seeing the same scenarios, when Embiid gases out, everything falls with him. If we see how they've played the playoffs against the Hawks. Each time Embiid loses control, the entire team suffers. It's not just because Simmon can't shoot FT but he also mentally affected that the system mostly circling with Embiid.

Just my two cents, I see the rotations are not well balance; they have Howard to give some quality minutes for Embiid; he doesn't need to play that long as they've still got Harris and Curry who can also convert good offenses. They need to maximize all those stars who can contribute after releasing Simmons and whoever replaces him should also be active in helping the entire team and not to keep relying on how Embiid will play the game.
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September 01, 2021, 07:47:58 AM
Some experts see Simmons as a problem, so he can't keep proving in a team that does not anymore appreciate him.
Embiid is very effective, and he is truly a star, but if he doesn't have an attitude of a real team captain, this team will still face struggle even in the long run.
Embiid is indeed very effective with his role in 76ers and you're right he needs to step up and be an effective team captain as well. Maybe If they could replace Simons with a more effective player than him, they'll probably have a shot at the conference finals.

I guess the play is more so focus on Embiid, they have a lot of talented players like Tobias Harris as well who should constantly attack, but his contribution is still not enough to take over when Embiid is struggling. The problem with the style is that Embiid will eventually gas out in the 4th quarter, and it would be easy for the opposite team to have a run as they have a better team work, and we have seen that during the Hawks vs 76ers series.
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September 01, 2021, 07:34:22 AM
Simmons should get inspired to this happenings and work with his shots so that he can get a good revenge once he is on another team and face 76ers on a game.
Enough for the 76ers.. I guess Simmons should be sent to a new home.
He will as he showed disinterest in continuing to be a 76ers.
It will be exciting to see on whether he finds a team that could fit his style or play or not.
Sad truth in the NBA, If you have low percentage of shooting, you're most probably just a mediocre player. Simons became overrated when he gradually losses his shooting percentage including ft percentage.

Some experts see Simmons as a problem, so he can't keep proving in a team that does not anymore appreciate him.
Embiid is very effective, and he is truly a star, but if he doesn't have an attitude of a real team captain, this team will still face struggle even in the long run.
Embiid is indeed very effective with his role in 76ers and you're right he needs to step up and be an effective team captain as well. Maybe If they could replace Simons with a more effective player than him, they'll probably have a shot at the conference finals.
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September 01, 2021, 07:28:09 AM
Simmons should get inspired to this happenings and work with his shots so that he can get a good revenge once he is on another team and face 76ers on a game.
Some experts see Simmons as a problem, so he can't keep proving in a team that does not anymore appreciate him.
Embiid is very effective, and he is truly a star, but if he doesn't have an attitude of a real team captain, this team will still face struggle even in the long run.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2875498-joel-embiid-ben-simmons-problem-discussed-by-76ers-gm-elton-brand

Enough for the 76ers.. I guess Simmons should be sent to a new home.
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September 01, 2021, 07:15:20 AM
Yes, it's official now: Ben Simmons has asked for a trade to the Philadelphia 76ers, and he'll be wearing a different jersey next season! According to The Philadelphia Inquirer, the Australian player had a conversation with Doc Rivers and Daryl Morey: Simmons told his head coach and the president that he wants to be traded and that he'll no longer play with the Sixers. He also made it known that he will not be part of training camp.
Let the deals flow.

It's obvious that Simmons have severed his tie with the Sixers after the playoffs.

Now it's a game on which team Simmons are going to be traded with. Maybe there are teams that are interested on him despite his awful free throw shooting. He used to be the second man in the Sixers and in Joel's absence, he takes charge. But he was exposed in the playoffs, so you can't blame him for leaving this way. All finger points to him as one reason why they've lost to the Hawks.

Internal issues with his teammates that he can no longer take, it's not an act of professional players pointing out fingers and blames your co-players.

Best to move forward and find those lapses and developed it,
the team will be much ready in this upcoming season if things work well after that playoffs.

But seems that the problem internally is no longer workable between Simmons and the Sixers management.
Time to let him move forward, still no update if what team but with this kind of gesture there's no other option but to let go.


For having this issues for sure they will never be fix since there's already gap between there teammates due to incidents happened to them and their chemistry will get affected to this so its really better  to move on from this issues and let him be traded on another team. Simmons should get inspired to this happenings and work with his shots so that he can get a good revenge once he is on another team and face 76ers on a game.
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September 01, 2021, 07:11:18 AM
Yes, it's official now: Ben Simmons has asked for a trade to the Philadelphia 76ers, and he'll be wearing a different jersey next season! According to The Philadelphia Inquirer, the Australian player had a conversation with Doc Rivers and Daryl Morey: Simmons told his head coach and the president that he wants to be traded and that he'll no longer play with the Sixers. He also made it known that he will not be part of training camp.
Let the deals flow.

It's obvious that Simmons have severed his tie with the Sixers after the playoffs.

Now it's a game on which team Simmons are going to be traded with. Maybe there are teams that are interested on him despite his awful free throw shooting. He used to be the second man in the Sixers and in Joel's absence, he takes charge. But he was exposed in the playoffs, so you can't blame him for leaving this way. All finger points to him as one reason why they've lost to the Hawks.

Internal issues with his teammates that he can no longer take, it's not an act of professional players pointing out fingers and blames your co-players.

Best to move forward and find those lapses and developed it,
the team will be much ready in this upcoming season if things work well after that playoffs.

But seems that the problem internally is no longer workable between Simmons and the Sixers management.
Time to let him move forward, still no update if what team but with this kind of gesture there's no other option but to let go.
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