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Quote from: Karartma1 on July 30, 2021, 08:09:30 AM

This past season Russell Westbrook led Washington to the Playoffs where, in five games, he averaged 19 points, 11.8 assists and 10.4 rebounds. These are numbers that make his arrival in Los Angeles full of excitement and expectations around the Lakers (have a look at LeBron Instagram post) for next season.
Surely, that's not it yet for the Lakers' whose market continues, ready to provide coach Vogel with a team capable of fighting for the title.
That's the very title that Westbrook's always been chasing and that with Lakers he could finally win.

Maybe the timing was great for his arrival, LeBron and Davis might already healthy coming this new season.
Lakers have a lots of assignment for this guy he's very explosive good duo for LeBron running the front court,
While AD and Drummond are covering inside post waiting for some drops.

If coach Bogel able to rinse the best blend with this 4 stars, for sure they are in the mission coming this new season, hopefully they'll be able to keep their health in good condition by rotating the right people inside and not to urge this 4 stars to play longer minutes.

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Quote from: harizen on July 29, 2021, 08:19:55 PM

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Yes the Lakers got a reliable and a talented triple-double guy in Westbrook but lets not forget the contributions that Trez KCP and Kuz to the Lakers team. Trez and KCP are a good defenders and Kuz is a good role player at least.

The problem with those guys is "consistently inconsistent" lol. It's way better for me to ship those as I don't know on what part they contribute big out from their inconsistency. If Lebron James and Anthony Davis aren't present, no one from that 3 is stepping up or just in a few situations.

If the deal will be finalized and Lakers got Westbrook, they won the deal. Westbrook can carry a team consistently. Lakers are surely in good hands whenever Bron or AD, in case, sidelined or not present.

On the other hand, Harrel, KCP, and Kuzma will be a good addition to the Wizards. They lack supporting roles so they have also won the deal.

This past season Russell Westbrook led Washington to the Playoffs where, in five games, he averaged 19 points, 11.8 assists and 10.4 rebounds. These are numbers that make his arrival in Los Angeles full of excitement and expectations around the Lakers (have a look at LeBron Instagram post) for next season.
Surely, that's not it yet for the Lakers' whose market continues, ready to provide coach Vogel with a team capable of fighting for the title.
That's the very title that Westbrook's always been chasing and that with Lakers he could finally win.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on July 30, 2021, 07:18:29 AM

Quote from: harizen on July 30, 2021, 06:43:11 AM

Lots of young players left in the Lakers although I'm not sure if they will also be placed in the trading blocks especially Andre Drummond and Dennis Schroder.

if these two will be traded, sure the Lakers will be able to acquire a number of players that would be vital to help the big 3 of the LA Lakers.

Looking at the current LA Lakers roster now, they still have.

Ben McLemore
Markieff Morris
Wesley Matthews
Talen Horton-Tucker
Marc Gasol
Alex Caruso

Note" there's still more but I did not count those names I think will not give a good contribution to the team.

These names that you mentioned were very useful to their previous teams, some of them are even star players so there's no doubt they'll step up if given a good playing time. Talen Horton-Tucker, this young fella has good potential, maybe the reason why the Lakers is still keeping him. Also, Ben McLemore had a good seasons with the Kings, who knows he'll play better next season.

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Quote from: harizen on July 30, 2021, 06:43:11 AM

Lots of young players left in the Lakers although I'm not sure if they will also be placed in the trading blocks especially Andre Drummond and Dennis Schroder.

if these two will be traded, sure the Lakers will be able to acquire a number of players that would be vital to help the big 3 of the LA Lakers.

Looking at the current LA Lakers roster now, they still have.

Ben McLemore
Markieff Morris
Wesley Matthews
Talen Horton-Tucker
Marc Gasol
Alex Caruso

Note" there's still more but I did not count those names I think will not give a good contribution to the team.

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Quote from: Russlenat on July 30, 2021, 04:16:16 AM

No more talented young players for the Lakers, they are desperate to win a championship again and I think the starting 5 is enough to win again.
They can easily acquire players with the skills like Kuzma and KCP, they just need to focus on building a good chemistry with the new addition.

I don't see acquiring Westbrook as the Lakers are desperate to win the championship. Maybe because of the timing. Prior to that, the closest possible deal was between Spurs and Kings. I think that was started when the Wizards openly discussed the possibility of trading Westbrook this off-season and Westbrook reportedly moving home to Los Angeles.

Kuzma is still young but since he's not effective in the Lakers system, it's good to consider trading him while he's still valuable. Last season, James and AD were sidelined for over a month but never seen this young guy stepping up. He admits before that he's the number 3 in the Lakers but never proved it. However, what's the good thing about this guy is when exploded, he has a good stat line. He's a good addition to the Wizards.

Lots of young players left in the Lakers although I'm not sure if they will also be placed in the trading blocks especially Andre Drummond and Dennis Schroder.

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Quote from: Jating on July 30, 2021, 04:57:50 AM

Ok, so the deal is done already, now it's going to be an interesting West series, Lakers, Phoenix, Dallas, Clippers and Denver are going to fight it on for the 1st spot. I would say that this is really an upgrade for the Lakers but the caveat is that they should remain very healthy in the next season. We don't want to see two superstars getting injured at the same time. For sure Westbrook's presence and tenacity will have a domino effect on the Lakers here. Excited to see them next season.

Suns has no chance anymore, that's real talk. With the stronger Lakers now, even if Davis will be injured in the playoffs, they still have Westbrook and Lebron who are both MVPs and they can give problems to their opponent. Lebron has to do it because he is not getting any younger anymore, gone are those days that he will carry a team, he needs to be smarter so his legacy will continue.

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Ok, so the deal is done already, now it's going to be an interesting West series, Lakers, Phoenix, Dallas, Clippers and Denver are going to fight it on for the 1st spot. I would say that this is really an upgrade for the Lakers but the caveat is that they should remain very healthy in the next season. We don't want to see two superstars getting injured at the same time. For sure Westbrook's presence and tenacity will have a domino effect on the Lakers here. Excited to see them next season.

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After this trade, the Lakers starting line looks crazy. So if the top players are not injured again, they definitely will be favorites next season. However, I guess the Lakers gave a lot to get Westbrook, and they should also improve the bench.

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Quote from: Beparanf on July 30, 2021, 04:20:44 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on July 29, 2021, 11:25:02 PM

Quote from: Reid on July 29, 2021, 10:01:20 PM

I don't like the way the Lakers are doing things now. I get it, they are building a team around Lebron but they just keep on giving short contracts for players. It takes out the chemistry that is happening with them.

Yeah, let's say 1 time it was successful but Lebron is not getting any younger, they need a new face for the Lakers and if it's AD then build for AD and just let James be the veteran for the team.
The trade was done.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russell-westbrook-acquired-lakers-mega-trade-joining-lebron-james-la
Westbrook is now a Laker.

Superstars usually build their team chemistry in just 1 season.
So, I think this isn't a bad move for the Lakers after all.
Westbrook is a good addition to every team, he just needs to fit with the system.
They're not done yet with the rebuilding let's see how well the Lakers management pick up their additional pieces.
These trades are getting more exciting to each and every team.
I'm also waiting for the Clippers to make a move.

Westbrook is only good when all of his team mate will only take the support and defense role because he wants always the ball as you can see on his field goal attempt. He has an attitude like harden that's why it's so hard to have a chemistry to this 2 player. Lakers don't need him, A full healthy roster of Lakers is enough to win again the championship.

The deal is done, Lakers already decided to acquire him and sent some of their players. When it comes to defense, LA Lakers has no problem with that as Lebron, Davis and Westbrook is a good defender, they just need to stay healthy so next time their goal to win a championship again will be realize.

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Quote from: Beparanf on July 30, 2021, 04:20:44 AM

Westbrook is only good when all of his team mate will only take the support and defense role because he wants always the ball as you can see on his field goal attempt. He has an attitude like harden that's why it's so hard to have a chemistry to this 2 player. Lakers don't need him, A full healthy roster of Lakers is enough to win again the championship.

He need to adjust if he wanted to win a title, LeBron is good holding the ball and finding the open man WB don't need to carry the ball
and create his own plays.

His departure to Lakers might have a good impacts knowing that he's also a good options mostly for their offense.

Just the same with his trade for both Houston and Wizard, he's no longer the main alpha and he needs to work it out from those
who are the main of the Pack, LeBron and AD together with all the coaching staff will guide him on how to work with his new team.

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Quote from: Beparanf on July 30, 2021, 04:20:44 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on July 29, 2021, 11:25:02 PM

Quote from: Reid on July 29, 2021, 10:01:20 PM

I don't like the way the Lakers are doing things now. I get it, they are building a team around Lebron but they just keep on giving short contracts for players. It takes out the chemistry that is happening with them.

Yeah, let's say 1 time it was successful but Lebron is not getting any younger, they need a new face for the Lakers and if it's AD then build for AD and just let James be the veteran for the team.
The trade was done.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russell-westbrook-acquired-lakers-mega-trade-joining-lebron-james-la
Westbrook is now a Laker.

Superstars usually build their team chemistry in just 1 season.
So, I think this isn't a bad move for the Lakers after all.
Westbrook is a good addition to every team, he just needs to fit with the system.
They're not done yet with the rebuilding let's see how well the Lakers management pick up their additional pieces.
These trades are getting more exciting to each and every team.
I'm also waiting for the Clippers to make a move.

Westbrook is only good when all of his team mate will only take the support and defense role because he wants always the ball as you can see on his field goal attempt. He has an attitude like harden that's why it's so hard to have a chemistry to this 2 player. Lakers don't need him, A full healthy roster of Lakers is enough to win again the championship.

Him and Beal has a good chemistry in the Wizards team, of course he is a ball hog but we sure see him adjust when he went to Washington. And I guess he needs to adjust because he is not the alpha of the team but Lebron is.

Gonna be fun to watch as long as him and Lebron are healthy as a team. But they need to acquire more role players, like a replacement for KCP. AD and Drummond + Gasol will do the center/power forward position, but what they lack is the 2nd spot.

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Quote from: Oasisman on July 29, 2021, 11:25:02 PM

Quote from: Reid on July 29, 2021, 10:01:20 PM

I don't like the way the Lakers are doing things now. I get it, they are building a team around Lebron but they just keep on giving short contracts for players. It takes out the chemistry that is happening with them.

Yeah, let's say 1 time it was successful but Lebron is not getting any younger, they need a new face for the Lakers and if it's AD then build for AD and just let James be the veteran for the team.
The trade was done.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russell-westbrook-acquired-lakers-mega-trade-joining-lebron-james-la
Westbrook is now a Laker.

Superstars usually build their team chemistry in just 1 season.
So, I think this isn't a bad move for the Lakers after all.
Westbrook is a good addition to every team, he just needs to fit with the system.
They're not done yet with the rebuilding let's see how well the Lakers management pick up their additional pieces.
These trades are getting more exciting to each and every team.
I'm also waiting for the Clippers to make a move.

Westbrook is only good when all of his team mate will only take the support and defense role because he wants always the ball as you can see on his field goal attempt. He has an attitude like harden that's why it's so hard to have a chemistry to this 2 player. Lakers don't need him, A full healthy roster of Lakers is enough to win again the championship.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 30, 2021, 03:59:17 AM

Quote from: Reid on July 29, 2021, 10:01:20 PM

I don't like the way the Lakers are doing things now. I get it, they are building a team around Lebron but they just keep on giving short contracts for players. It takes out the chemistry that is happening with them.

Well that's what the Lakers did when they acquire Lebron, they gave up a lot of young and talented players and then kept Kuzma and KCP. Now the two are also in the trading discussion to get Westbrook.

The trade already happened per report. https://www.skysports.com/nba/news/36226/12367611/russell-westbrook-traded-to-los-angeles-lakers-in-blockbuster-deal-with-washington-wizards

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The Washington Wizards have agreed to send superstar Russell Westbrook to the Los Angeles Lakers for three players and what was the number 22 pick in Thursday night's NBA draft, The Athletic and ESPN have reported.

In addition to the first-round pick, the Wizards are receiving Kyle Kuzma, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Montrezl Harrell, per the reports.

No more talented young players for the Lakers, they are desperate to win a championship again and I think the starting 5 is enough to win again.
They can easily acquire players with the skills like Kuzma and KCP, they just need to focus on building a good chemistry with the new addition.

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Quote from: Reid on July 29, 2021, 10:01:20 PM

I don't like the way the Lakers are doing things now. I get it, they are building a team around Lebron but they just keep on giving short contracts for players. It takes out the chemistry that is happening with them.

Well that's what the Lakers did when they acquire Lebron, they gave up a lot of young and talented players and then kept Kuzma and KCP. Now the two are also in the trading discussion to get Westbrook.

Quote from: Reid on July 29, 2021, 10:01:20 PM

Yeah, let's say 1 time it was successful but Lebron is not getting any younger, they need a new face for the Lakers and if it's AD then build for AD and just let James be the veteran for the team.
The trade was done.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russell-westbrook-acquired-lakers-mega-trade-joining-lebron-james-la
Westbrook is now a Laker.

True, but Lakers is still build around Lebron, he still has like 1 or 2 years contracts and same with AD so I guess Lakers will have to think about that options once these 2 players contracts have expired.

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Quote from: Reid on July 29, 2021, 10:01:20 PM

I don't like the way the Lakers are doing things now. I get it, they are building a team around Lebron but they just keep on giving short contracts for players. It takes out the chemistry that is happening with them.

Yeah, let's say 1 time it was successful but Lebron is not getting any younger, they need a new face for the Lakers and if it's AD then build for AD and just let James be the veteran for the team.
The trade was done.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russell-westbrook-acquired-lakers-mega-trade-joining-lebron-james-la
Westbrook is now a Laker.

Superstars usually build their team chemistry in just 1 season.
So, I think this isn't a bad move for the Lakers after all.
Westbrook is a good addition to every team, he just needs to fit with the system.
They're not done yet with the rebuilding let's see how well the Lakers management pick up their additional pieces.
These trades are getting more exciting to each and every team.
I'm also waiting for the Clippers to make a move.

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I don't like the way the Lakers are doing things now. I get it, they are building a team around Lebron but they just keep on giving short contracts for players. It takes out the chemistry that is happening with them.

Yeah, let's say 1 time it was successful but Lebron is not getting any younger, they need a new face for the Lakers and if it's AD then build for AD and just let James be the veteran for the team.
The trade was done.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russell-westbrook-acquired-lakers-mega-trade-joining-lebron-james-la
Westbrook is now a Laker.

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Quote from: harizen on July 29, 2021, 08:19:55 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 29, 2021, 08:03:13 PM

Yes the Lakers got a reliable and a talented triple-double guy in Westbrook but lets not forget the contributions that Trez KCP and Kuz to the Lakers team. Trez and KCP are a good defenders and Kuz is a good role player at least.

The problem with those guys is "consistently inconsistent" lol. It's way better for me to ship those as I don't know on what part they contribute big out from their inconsistency. If Lebron James and Anthony Davis aren't present, no one from that 3 is stepping up or just in a few situations.

If the deal will be finalized and Lakers got Westbrook, they won the deal. Westbrook can carry a team consistently. Lakers are surely in good hands whenever Bron or AD, in case, sidelined or not present.

On the other hand, Harrel, KCP, and Kuzma will be a good addition to the Wizards. They lack supporting roles so they have also won the deal.

I laughed with what you said but its true that they are kinda inconsistent and the 3 of them have histories of injuries that might affect the team as a whole.

The deal of Wizards-Lakers have been done. Like what I've done with the Nets in 2020-2021 NBA season, I will not expect too much with this 3 superstars on the Lakers because like you said, they are inconsistent because of the injuries. I'm thinking that the Wizards have won this trade just because of how efficient KCP is and how good Harrell and add a role player maybe in Kuzma.

Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 29, 2021, 09:06:00 PM

More overrated trades gonna happen again but the recent official trade of Westbrook to Lakers is the real deal. Sauce please! Hoping they wouldn't disappoint the purple and gold fans this time now they got more explosive than ever, as what Og said hoping they got healthy physique this incoming regular season though.

We will be seeing more and more exciting trades and most of these will be mind blowing again.

The trade has been done and it looks exciting but for me, I'm still waiting who will get Simmons and what will be his value when he is traded. The Ben Simmons Saga is like the Kawhi Leonard Saga when he left Toronto.
Like I said, I'm not hoping too much with this Lakers team because all 3 of them has history of injuries and it will affect the team as a whole knowing that they traded most of their reliable bench players.

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More overrated trades gonna happen again but the recent official trade of Westbrook to Lakers is the real deal. Sauce please! Hoping they wouldn't disappoint the purple and gold fans this time now they got more explosive than ever, as what Og said hoping they got healthy physique this incoming regular season though.

We will be seeing more and more exciting trades and most of these will be mind blowing again.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 29, 2021, 07:43:11 PM

The Lakers are crazy… This Westbrook deal has to make them the favorites again. They need to figure out why Drummond didn’t work and fix that problem in the middle as well as add a shooter, but I think this Lakers team is going to make the Nets wait another year before they get to hoist a title with this lineup if they can all stay healthy.

Yup, it gonna be Showtime again, we all know that Russ loves to run with the ball and with James and Davis at the wing, we might see them having a good time with fast break dunks. But they need some perimeter guys as well, that can defend to opposing teams main man. Russ doesn't want to play defense or at least stay away from fouling anyone. So just imagine if both teams are healthy, Lakers vs Nets in the finals next season, that will be fire. James vs KD, Westbrook vs Harden. I think its a win-win for both teams, Harrell was not a perfect fit to the Lakers and Kuzma, oh well, we see him choking in the playoffs. KCP is a 50-50 to me, although it seems that he also play below par in the series against Phoenix. I remember James urging him to shoot the ball.

Westbrook will be so effective if Lebron will give up that PG to position and give the right to Westbrook to handle it and make some plays. This is the redemption for Westbrook, time for him to prove against his old teammates in OKC ( Durant and Harden) that he is better than them if he will win a championship together with the king.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 29, 2021, 07:43:11 PM

The Lakers are crazy… This Westbrook deal has to make them the favorites again. They need to figure out why Drummond didn’t work and fix that problem in the middle as well as add a shooter, but I think this Lakers team is going to make the Nets wait another year before they get to hoist a title with this lineup if they can all stay healthy.

Yup, it gonna be Showtime again, we all know that Russ loves to run with the ball and with James and Davis at the wing, we might see them having a good time with fast break dunks. But they need some perimeter guys as well, that can defend to opposing teams main man. Russ doesn't want to play defense or at least stay away from fouling anyone. So just imagine if both teams are healthy, Lakers vs Nets in the finals next season, that will be fire. James vs KD, Westbrook vs Harden. I think its a win-win for both teams, Harrell was not a perfect fit to the Lakers and Kuzma, oh well, we see him choking in the playoffs. KCP is a 50-50 to me, although it seems that he also play below par in the series against Phoenix. I remember James urging him to shoot the ball.

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