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July 28, 2021, 12:55:03 AM
I'm interested to hear about Ben Simmons case though, we all know that how poorly he show himself in the playoffs and even Joel was vocal about it. Maybe it's time for the Sixers to trade him before next season. Same case with KP, he is so inconsistent as a Dallas and didn't compliment Luka well in the playoffs.
I saw a post on Facebook yesterday saying that the Sixers and the Raptors have a proposed trade.

Sixers will receive VanVleet, Anunoby and some picks.
Raptors will received Simmons.

Well, the Raptors did declined that trade and I think that its the better decision. Simmons' future is kinda unpredictable right now and its risky for the Raptors to get a player who can't even shoot threes and can't make free throws and will trade 2 of their most talented players. I think that the Raptors are in the rebuilding phase but this isn't the trade that they want to. Now the question is who will get Ben Simmons and where he will land this off-season Cheesy. The Ben Simmons Saga continues Cheesy.
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July 28, 2021, 12:46:43 AM
I'm interested to hear about Ben Simmons case though, we all know that how poorly he show himself in the playoffs and even Joel was vocal about it. Maybe it's time for the Sixers to trade him before next season. Same case with KP, he is so inconsistent as a Dallas and didn't compliment Luka well in the playoffs.
Same here. I am more of following KP because I have read the story that he is not happy with the Mavs. It looked like he disappointed the fans but there is a deeper reason behind it. The plays that given were all for Luka and all he had to do is wait in the corner like a PJ Tucker style offensive play.
No player who thinks he can do many things will like that idea.
His contract will also be a problem if a trade happens, its way big for other teams considering how prone he is to injuries. He better stay with Mavs, make peace with Luka and create some chemistry.
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July 27, 2021, 09:55:45 PM
Kemba Walker is out of the Boston Celtics line-up, what surprises me is them getting Al again, they could get someone that can really play 'true' center position, for me Al is not. Not sure why Celtics just keep trading their guard position though.
They might focus on Brown and Tatum this time instead of putting more guards in their lineup.
This trade is one of the big ones early before the Draft pick. Most of the time they do it after.
The other was Valanciunas being sent to Pelicans for Steven Adams, Bledsoe, and two future first-round picks.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31891102/memphis-grizzlies-trade-jonas-valanciunas-new-orleans-pelicans-steven-adams-eric-bledsoe-sources-say
It's going to be a roller-coaster ride including the draft pick with so many good young players to choose from.


Yes, it could be that Tatum and Brown will be the center piece of Boston. And as early as before the playoffs starts, there is already a rumour that Kemba was already on the trading block. The story from an insider says that the Boston management is concern about Kemba's nagging knee injury. And it is now confirmed that he has been shipped out to OKC.

I'm interested to hear about Ben Simmons case though, we all know that how poorly he show himself in the playoffs and even Joel was vocal about it. Maybe it's time for the Sixers to trade him before next season. Same case with KP, he is so inconsistent as a Dallas and didn't compliment Luka well in the playoffs.
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July 27, 2021, 09:44:32 PM
I love it when Joey Crawford is the referee of a game I’m watching. That guy takes no shit and does a great job. The players seem to like and respect him as well. He’s gotta be getting pretty old so if he is still going I imagine it won’t be for much longer, then I’ll be searching for my new favorite NBA referee.
He retired already and he is now 69 living a peaceful life. I guess.  Cheesy 39 years of servicing the NBA and was stopped by a knee injury. I think age is also part of the reason behind it. He will be remembered obviously, because of the Tim Duncan first ejection incident of his career from laughing on the sidelines.
Bad mood + Duncan grilling him for an offensive foul. Refs had their bad days too but being professional should stay. He was later fined, suspended for the whole season and even went through anger management sessions just to get back for work. After that he admitted he made a mistake and became one of the best officials out there.

Yeah, who wouldn't forget the Crawford and Tim Duncan's incident?

But as for CP3 and Scott Foster, just a coincidence and for sure moving forward, fans are going to watch every game that Foster is the ref of every CP3 game now, specially in the playoffs.

We’ve been watching for 13 games straight now. At this point it goes well beyond coincidence. You could make the case that Chris Paul has some sort of mental block when it comes to winning games with him as a ref, or maybe Scott Foster calls certain fouls other refs don’t, but there has got to be a cause for this statistical anomaly.
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July 27, 2021, 09:38:27 PM
Kemba Walker is out of the Boston Celtics line-up, what surprises me is them getting Al again, they could get someone that can really play 'true' center position, for me Al is not. Not sure why Celtics just keep trading their guard position though.
They might focus on Brown and Tatum this time instead of putting more guards in their lineup.
This trade is one of the big ones early before the Draft pick. Most of the time they do it after.
The other was Valanciunas being sent to Pelicans for Steven Adams, Bledsoe, and two future first-round picks.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31891102/memphis-grizzlies-trade-jonas-valanciunas-new-orleans-pelicans-steven-adams-eric-bledsoe-sources-say
It's going to be a roller-coaster ride including the draft pick with so many good young players to choose from.
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July 27, 2021, 05:07:33 PM
I love it when Joey Crawford is the referee of a game I’m watching. That guy takes no shit and does a great job. The players seem to like and respect him as well. He’s gotta be getting pretty old so if he is still going I imagine it won’t be for much longer, then I’ll be searching for my new favorite NBA referee.
He retired already and he is now 69 living a peaceful life. I guess.  Cheesy 39 years of servicing the NBA and was stopped by a knee injury. I think age is also part of the reason behind it. He will be remembered obviously, because of the Tim Duncan first ejection incident of his career from laughing on the sidelines.
Bad mood + Duncan grilling him for an offensive foul. Refs had their bad days too but being professional should stay. He was later fined, suspended for the whole season and even went through anger management sessions just to get back for work. After that he admitted he made a mistake and became one of the best officials out there.

Yeah, who wouldn't forget the Crawford and Tim Duncan's incident?

But as for CP3 and Scott Foster, just a coincidence and for sure moving forward, fans are going to watch every game that Foster is the ref of every CP3 game now, specially in the playoffs.

Kemba Walker is out of the Boston Celtics line-up, what surprises me is them getting Al again, they could get someone that can really play 'true' center position, for me Al is not. Not sure why Celtics just keep trading their guard position though.
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July 27, 2021, 03:54:13 PM
https://twitter.com/MarcJSpears/status/1301374451066470400

So the conspiracy theories continues and CP3 is still haunted by this and we will never know the real story about their beef and maybe he can tell it all once he retires as you said.
I've never known this conspiracy but it's freakingly eerie and for sure CP3 has thought about it.
It's just a coincidence, I think CP3 has a phobia on Scott Foster so he never wins a game when this guy is the referee.

If the NBA sees that he is not making his job fairly, they can easily fire him, unless the NBA themselves are involved.

I guess we should stop making this kind of theory, it's just senseless IMO.
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July 27, 2021, 02:24:40 PM
https://twitter.com/MarcJSpears/status/1301374451066470400

So the conspiracy theories continues and CP3 is still haunted by this and we will never know the real story about their beef and maybe he can tell it all once he retires as you said.
I've never known this conspiracy but it's freakingly eerie and for sure CP3 has thought about it.

The NBA draft is this Thursday, July 29, we should see more trades being done in the upcoming days.
That's for sure, can't wait for the trades to come and feel the same heat as what we've seen with the Nets roster update before.
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July 27, 2021, 02:08:47 PM
I really do not get the Celtics trade, that looks nearly like "get Kemba out no matter what" type of trade, never understood why teams like Al Horford so much and pay him that much neither, he is not really a good center neither, dude plays with 14 points and 7 rebounds, that is not really a great deal, in this day and age you need centers who can either shoot and spread the floor, or at least grab more rebounds for the shooters to retry when they miss, needs to be a great pick and roll defender as well because that is used but needs to be master and pick and pop as well.

So long story short this wasn't a trade to get AH to the team, this was a move to send Kemba away no matter what and they got a deal from OKC, they didn't even get a good pick or anything, they weren't really looking for any profit on this trade, only thing they cared about was sending him away. Weird move.
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July 27, 2021, 08:06:21 AM
I love it when Joey Crawford is the referee of a game I’m watching. That guy takes no shit and does a great job. The players seem to like and respect him as well. He’s gotta be getting pretty old so if he is still going I imagine it won’t be for much longer, then I’ll be searching for my new favorite NBA referee.
He retired already and he is now 69 living a peaceful life. I guess.  Cheesy 39 years of servicing the NBA and was stopped by a knee injury. I think age is also part of the reason behind it. He will be remembered obviously, because of the Tim Duncan first ejection incident of his career from laughing on the sidelines.
Bad mood + Duncan grilling him for an offensive foul. Refs had their bad days too but being professional should stay. He was later fined, suspended for the whole season and even went through anger management sessions just to get back for work. After that he admitted he made a mistake and became one of the best officials out there.
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July 27, 2021, 04:48:44 AM
Top best:
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1. Danny Crawford, who got 30 votes.
2. Joey Crawford (no relation), with 25 votes.
3. Monty McCutchen, with 13 votes.
Top worst:
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1. Scott Foster, with 24 votes.
2. Lauren Holtkamp, with 14 votes.
3. Marc Davis, with 12 votes.
I think the deep reason was he never do conversations with whoever is trying to correct him. He doesn't admit his mistakes unlike other officials.

I love it when Joey Crawford is the referee of a game I’m watching. That guy takes no shit and does a great job. The players seem to like and respect him as well. He’s gotta be getting pretty old so if he is still going I imagine it won’t be for much longer, then I’ll be searching for my new favorite NBA referee.
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July 27, 2021, 04:44:30 AM

Speaking of OKC Thunder, I saw Kemba Walker after checking their roster and he is gone in the Celtics roster already but I can't find any legitimate news yet.

I curiously check that and yes I see his name under OKC rosters, his journey chasing for the title with the Boston is now over.

Was thinking what if he stayed with Charlotte and let MJ managed his career, imagine building a good squad around him as the main man of the team, for sure there are lots of media exposures and more advertisements for him. Moving forward, let see what impacts he might bring to this franchise and who's going to be there to help him out.
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July 27, 2021, 04:32:07 AM

As for the Pels side of things, it's a good trade, getting rid of bad contracts and opening up cap space. Lonzo will be a restricted free agent, so their roster could have a completely new look come next season. It'll be interesting to see who they bring in to play alongside Ingram and Zion, don't forget they also have a rookie head coach, Willie Green.  So, a lot of question marks ahead for New Orleans...

The NBA draft is this Thursday, July 29, we should see more trades being done in the upcoming days.

I think Lonzo will opt out of the Pelicans since his father wants the 3 of his sons to reunite at Charlotte Hornets. I'm not sure but I have a feeling it will going to happen.
Valanciunas is indeed a good addition for the Pelicans, and I myself is also excited to see these young Pelicans to mature and become a championship caliber team. I'm hoping Ingram and Zion to stay with the Pelicans until they win a championship.

Drafts and trades are still here to give the fans an excitement during the off season.
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July 27, 2021, 03:59:29 AM

Its just funny that CP3 really is 0-12 when the game is being officiated by Scott Foster. We might think that there is a bit of biased on it but we can't say it without proofs at all.

Nice trivia, I don't know that, however, I still believe that the Suns did not lose because of the officiating, that's too unfair for the Bucks because we saw how they bounce back from the first two losses and they have dominated the Suns already winning the next 4 games. Maybe next time CP3 has to be friendly with the refs especially with Scott Foster so the curse will be broken.
Speaking of OKC Thunder, I saw Kemba Walker after checking their roster and he is gone in the Celtics roster already but I can't find any legitimate news yet.


https://www.nba.com/news/celtics-trade-kemba-walker-picks-to-thunder

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The Celtics are bringing Al Horford back, trading point guard Kemba Walker to Oklahoma City for the five-time All-Star on Friday in Brad Stevens’ first major move since he moved from the Boston bench to the front office.

Boston will also send the No. 16 overall draft pick and a 2025 second-rounder to the Thunder and receive 7-footer Moses Brown and a 2023 second-round pick in return.

So it seems it's official already, maybe they think that Kemba is not really a perfect fit for them, specially in their run on the play offs wherein his performance really goes down (maybe he has injury or something). Interesting to note that they will get back Al Horford to man the middle for them.
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July 27, 2021, 03:53:34 AM
I believe it's 13 playoff losses straight now after game 6 and an overall playoff record of 2-16.  Sad for sure and hard to discount.  You could maybe say that Scott Foster calls fouls in a way that hurts CP3, but something is definitely up there.  The only way to justify the statistic and not think Scott Foster should be fired is if he's doing it on their behalf, which is where all the conspiracy theories come from.  I haven't heard Chris Paul comment on it at all, but I suspect it will be in his documentary once he retires.  
I tried to dig deep because of this. I just want to know what players, coaches and assistant coaches think about him and I think your speculation might be true. Or it could be a bad police, good police rehearsal that they do behind the scenes and Scott Foster just loves to be the bad police.
We don't know. Here's the article from LA Times making a survey about top best and top worst officials dated 2016. Yes, he had been hated for a long time.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/nba/la-sp-nba-best-worst-referees-20160131-story.html
Top best:
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1. Danny Crawford, who got 30 votes.
2. Joey Crawford (no relation), with 25 votes.
3. Monty McCutchen, with 13 votes.
Top worst:
Quote
1. Scott Foster, with 24 votes.
2. Lauren Holtkamp, with 14 votes.
3. Marc Davis, with 12 votes.
I think the deep reason was he never do conversations with whoever is trying to correct him. He doesn't admit his mistakes unlike other officials.
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July 26, 2021, 09:30:47 PM
Its just funny that CP3 really is 0-12 when the game is being officiated by Scott Foster. We might think that there is a bit of biased on it but we can't say it without proofs at all.

Nice trivia, I don't know that, however, I still believe that the Suns did not lose because of the officiating, that's too unfair for the Bucks because we saw how they bounce back from the first two losses and they have dominated the Suns already winning the next 4 games. Maybe next time CP3 has to be friendly with the refs especially with Scott Foster so the curse will be broken.

I think it's just a coincidence. Scott Foster's won't do such a thing or it will cost him his career. It's not easy to look for a job when you are at that age.

I believe it's 13 playoff losses straight now after game 6 and an overall playoff record of 2-16.  Sad for sure and hard to discount.  You could maybe say that Scott Foster calls fouls in a way that hurts CP3, but something is definitely up there.  The only way to justify the statistic and not think Scott Foster should be fired is if he's doing it on their behalf, which is where all the conspiracy theories come from.  I haven't heard Chris Paul comment on it at all, but I suspect it will be in his documentary once he retires. 

Yeah, but it's hard to believed that a ref has a beef with a player such as CP3. And even reminded him of that string of losses:



https://twitter.com/MarcJSpears/status/1301374451066470400

So the conspiracy theories continues and CP3 is still haunted by this and we will never know the real story about their beef and maybe he can tell it all once he retires as you said.
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July 26, 2021, 08:44:50 PM
Its just funny that CP3 really is 0-12 when the game is being officiated by Scott Foster. We might think that there is a bit of biased on it but we can't say it without proofs at all.

Nice trivia, I don't know that, however, I still believe that the Suns did not lose because of the officiating, that's too unfair for the Bucks because we saw how they bounce back from the first two losses and they have dominated the Suns already winning the next 4 games. Maybe next time CP3 has to be friendly with the refs especially with Scott Foster so the curse will be broken.

I think it's just a coincidence. Scott Foster's won't do such a thing or it will cost him his career. It's not easy to look for a job when you are at that age.

I believe it's 13 playoff losses straight now after game 6 and an overall playoff record of 2-16.  Sad for sure and hard to discount.  You could maybe say that Scott Foster calls fouls in a way that hurts CP3, but something is definitely up there.  The only way to justify the statistic and not think Scott Foster should be fired is if he's doing it on their behalf, which is where all the conspiracy theories come from.  I haven't heard Chris Paul comment on it at all, but I suspect it will be in his documentary once he retires.  
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July 26, 2021, 08:41:25 PM
...and so it begins, the first trade of this offseason is in:

source: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1419756065625972747
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Memphis is finalizing a trade to send Jonas Valanciunas and 2021 Nos. 17 and 51 picks to New Orleans for Steven Adams, Eric Bledsoe, 2021 picks Nos. 10 and 40 and a protected 2022 first-round pick via the Lakers, sources tell ESPN.

Grizzlies are moving 7 spots up in the draft while absorbing two bad contracts (Adams and Bledsoe). I'm not sure what to make out of this trade, i don't particularly like it for Memphis, but i imagine they have someone in mind to move up in the draft. I'd like to see them play without a typical big man next season, which means Jaren Jackson Jr. at the five, unlikely to happen though.

As for the Pels side of things, it's a good trade, getting rid of bad contracts and opening up cap space. Lonzo will be a restricted free agent, so their roster could have a completely new look come next season. It'll be interesting to see who they bring in to play alongside Ingram and Zion, don't forget they also have a rookie head coach, Willie Green.  So, a lot of question marks ahead for New Orleans...

The NBA draft is this Thursday, July 29, we should see more trades being done in the upcoming days.
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July 26, 2021, 08:40:10 PM

Its just funny that CP3 really is 0-12 when the game is being officiated by Scott Foster. We might think that there is a bit of biased on it but we can't say it without proofs at all.

Nice trivia, I don't know that, however, I still believe that the Suns did not lose because of the officiating, that's too unfair for the Bucks because we saw how they bounce back from the first two losses and they have dominated the Suns already winning the next 4 games. Maybe next time CP3 has to be friendly with the refs especially with Scott Foster so the curse will be broken.
I think it's just a coincidence. Scott Foster's won't do such a thing or it will cost him his career. It's not easy to look for a job when you are at that age.
Next, I think NBA analytics and fans just made it bigger of an issue and it didn't stop until it gets worse Game 7 OKC vs Rockets.
He was so mad at that moment because he want to prove something after trading him to OKC by the Rockets itself.
Last minute with 1 point lead in favor of Rockets, CP3 handles the ball and he almost turned it over, ball recovered and rotates, Harden blocked a 3 point attempt by Dort and Rockets got the ball back. It's just Covington's night that moment as he shoots everything, everywhere.  Grin

Speaking of OKC Thunder, I saw Kemba Walker after checking their roster and he is gone in the Celtics roster already but I can't find any legitimate news yet.
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July 26, 2021, 01:08:57 PM
Last season Lowry wanted out already isn't it? So that alone tells us that the Toronto Raptors are going to rebuild without Lowry. But it is interesting to hear that Siakam wanted out of Toronto since he just sign a huge deal with them and he is the next to be the face of Toronto when Lowry goes out.

Here is the link for those who are interested: https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-rumors-possible-warriors-trade-185518680.html
With the Kawhi Leonard's exit, I realized that the Raptors had dropped their level, I still believe that if Lowry leaves, it won't make such a significant difference to the team. If Pascal Siakam leaves Toronto, I still believe he will be greatly missed. Siakam was a key player in the Raptors' victory over the Warriors in 18/19 NBA finals, and he's still 27 years old, he's sure to evolve.

Well, now let's see if these trades will actually happen, and let's see what possible players can go to the Raptors
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