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April 19, 2024, 07:25:44 AM

Still, I'm betting on the Miami Heat and I'm glad to take them as the underdog to win straight up.

I like that trust on your team, Miami has played a decent games even without Jimmy, so they're good, they might loss but they'll not gonna out their on the court without a fight. We know that "heat culture" , right? Coach Spo gonna dig all the potential of his players and bring that out on their last game in the season. Miami's gonna make the same journey last season while Jimmy is resting to heal that injury and be prepared for the playoffs.

Even if Butler is not available they have reliable guys that can fill his absence they had Bam which can dominate inside and Jacquez jr which can give perform well if needed also their reliable shooter Robinson and Herro which can also punish their opponent team on perimeter then and the rest is reliable players so we cannot really say that they are done since their star is out. So for sure we can see them perform so good and they have a lot of experience on crucial games and they are dangerous opponent for that. We see them knocked off the hot Bucks before and they are still capable to do that on their opponent. I'm considering to placing some bet on Miami since it will add the fun watching important games with bet placed.

Different though when you don't have the leader of your team in the floor. Yeah, there's Bam and Herro, but gonna be hard for them if the other side is 100% healthy and doesn't want to missed the opportunity to get in the playoff. But they are the slight favorite against the Bulls, so maybe the betting public still believes that the Heat is going to win. For the Kings vs Pelicans, the Kings is not the favorite because as reported, Zion is out, just a bad time for him to really get injured and he is the leader of the Pelicans and it's hard for him to watch at the sideline.
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April 19, 2024, 04:27:49 AM

Still, I'm betting on the Miami Heat and I'm glad to take them as the underdog to win straight up.

I like that trust on your team, Miami has played a decent games even without Jimmy, so they're good, they might loss but they'll not gonna out their on the court without a fight. We know that "heat culture" , right? Coach Spo gonna dig all the potential of his players and bring that out on their last game in the season. Miami's gonna make the same journey last season while Jimmy is resting to heal that injury and be prepared for the playoffs.

Even if Butler is not available they have reliable guys that can fill his absence they had Bam which can dominate inside and Jacquez jr which can give perform well if needed also their reliable shooter Robinson and Herro which can also punish their opponent team on perimeter then and the rest is reliable players so we cannot really say that they are done since their star is out. So for sure we can see them perform so good and they have a lot of experience on crucial games and they are dangerous opponent for that. We see them knocked off the hot Bucks before and they are still capable to do that on their opponent. I'm considering to placing some bet on Miami since it will add the fun watching important games with bet placed.
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April 18, 2024, 11:41:51 PM

Still, I'm betting on the Miami Heat and I'm glad to take them as the underdog to win straight up.

I like that trust on your team, Miami has played a decent games even without Jimmy, so they're good, they might loss but they'll not gonna out their on the court without a fight. We know that "heat culture" , right? Coach Spo gonna dig all the potential of his players and bring that out on their last game in the season. Miami's gonna make the same journey last season while Jimmy is resting to heal that injury and be prepared for the playoffs.
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April 18, 2024, 10:49:56 PM
No Jimmy Buckets!  Undecided

Jimmy Butler officially ruled out of Friday's do-or-die Play-In game vs. Bulls

We're waiting for him this play-in and then he's got injured for the very first game. This MCL sprain on his right knee really, come on. We know how he changes and puts himself into beast mode every play-in/playoffs that they're going.

I guess that there's no more threat to the Celtics with this news. But with the Bulls, as they'll be the one for their next matchup, everyone is going to put money on the line for the Bulls.

They might I just wouldn't count out the Heat.  Not that Jimmy isn't the biggest part of that team but you never know in one and done games.  One cold streak by either team and you can lose.  Like the regular season when good teams lose to bottom feeders.  That's where 7 game series come in play.  Over time the best teams win but one and done I hate betting.

The postseason seems to have gotten off to a rough start for some teams. First, Zion is out due to injury, and now Butler is out for a few weeks. Speaking of the Heat, I'm still inclined to think that they can hardly do anything against other teams without Butler. Moreover, Rozier will also be out for the upcoming game versus the Bulls.


Too bad for the Miami Heat but I wouldn't underestimate their capability of winning as I've seen many times in the regular season that they are winning games even without Jimmy Butler.  This is the time for everyone to step up, no Jimmy so everyone should get involved and the ball should be moving well.

Still, I'm betting on the Miami Heat and I'm glad to take them as the underdog to win straight up.
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April 18, 2024, 10:27:08 PM
No Jimmy Buckets!  Undecided

Jimmy Butler officially ruled out of Friday's do-or-die Play-In game vs. Bulls

We're waiting for him this play-in and then he's got injured for the very first game. This MCL sprain on his right knee really, come on. We know how he changes and puts himself into beast mode every play-in/playoffs that they're going.

I guess that there's no more threat to the Celtics with this news. But with the Bulls, as they'll be the one for their next matchup, everyone is going to put money on the line for the Bulls.

They might I just wouldn't count out the Heat.  Not that Jimmy isn't the biggest part of that team but you never know in one and done games.  One cold streak by either team and you can lose.  Like the regular season when good teams lose to bottom feeders.  That's where 7 game series come in play.  Over time the best teams win but one and done I hate betting.

The postseason seems to have gotten off to a rough start for some teams. First, Zion is out due to injury, and now Butler is out for a few weeks. Speaking of the Heat, I'm still inclined to think that they can hardly do anything against other teams without Butler. Moreover, Rozier will also be out for the upcoming game versus the Bulls.


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April 18, 2024, 10:10:50 PM
I love this confidence from Anthony Edwards and I agree with him. He’s 100% the best young talent in the NBA right now and if he can keep his head on straight and continue trying to get better, I don’t see how anyone could be better.

"I'll be the best player in the NBA in about two to three years."

- Anthony Edwards

he can be if he stay healthy, but sorry for him because as long as Jokic and Doncic are their which could average an easy double double, Edwards could not win an MVP even if he had so many impressive highlights. Jordan on his time, he doesn't  average like Luka or Jokic but clearly he was the best player.

his average this season.

PTS    TRB   AST
25.9   5.4  5.1


Luka
33.9   9.2  9.8

Jokic
26.4  12.4 9.0

not even close TBH.
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April 18, 2024, 07:33:58 PM
Team USA has released their roster for the upcoming 2024 Olympics.

LeBron James
Stephen Curry
Kevin Durant
Joel Embiid
Devin Booker
Jayson Tatum
Anthony Davis
Tyrese Haliburton
Anthony Edwards
Jrue Holiday
Bam Adebayo
Kawhi Leonard

Who do you think should have been there?

I think Domantas Sabonis showed over the last two years that he’s an elite player. I wouldn’t have complained if he were on the team. I think Paul George also deserved a spot. After the injury he suffered while playing for the Olympic team, he really should have a lifetime offer to be on this team. Zion would be a nice addition too but I think he’s too young and doesn’t have his priorities right yet.
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April 18, 2024, 07:20:05 PM
I love this confidence from Anthony Edwards and I agree with him. He’s 100% the best young talent in the NBA right now and if he can keep his head on straight and continue trying to get better, I don’t see how anyone could be better.

"I'll be the best player in the NBA in about two to three years."

- Anthony Edwards
It's possible, I just hope that he won't get that career destroying injury just as what happened to the many aspiring greatest players but then, lost it all when they've contained it. And speaking of him, congratulations to him for being part of the Team USA.



Team USA has released their roster for the upcoming 2024 Olympics.

LeBron James
Stephen Curry
Kevin Durant
Joel Embiid
Devin Booker
Jayson Tatum
Anthony Davis
Tyrese Haliburton
Anthony Edwards
Jrue Holiday
Bam Adebayo
Kawhi Leonard

Who do you think should have been there?
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April 18, 2024, 07:11:59 PM
I love this confidence from Anthony Edwards and I agree with him. He’s 100% the best young talent in the NBA right now and if he can keep his head on straight and continue trying to get better, I don’t see how anyone could be better.

"I'll be the best player in the NBA in about two to three years."

- Anthony Edwards
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April 18, 2024, 07:10:17 PM
No Jimmy Buckets!  Undecided

Jimmy Butler officially ruled out of Friday's do-or-die Play-In game vs. Bulls

We're waiting for him this play-in and then he's got injured for the very first game. This MCL sprain on his right knee really, come on. We know how he changes and puts himself into beast mode every play-in/playoffs that they're going.

I guess that there's no more threat to the Celtics with this news. But with the Bulls, as they'll be the one for their next matchup, everyone is going to put money on the line for the Bulls.

They might I just wouldn't count out the Heat.  Not that Jimmy isn't the biggest part of that team but you never know in one and done games.  One cold streak by either team and you can lose.  Like the regular season when good teams lose to bottom feeders.  That's where 7 game series come in play.  Over time the best teams win but one and done I hate betting.
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April 18, 2024, 06:53:00 PM
Yeah, even if he wants to earn a bit from that. It's unwise to choose his own game for it, this happens in every sport but I guess that he had already accepted the fact that this might happen and it did.

With that lifetime earnings that he's got with the Raptors, he cannot get that with gambling because he's only betting for his own game and will do everything to just lose it.

$20K compared to the entire career earnings or his salary monthly.

Its really crazy decision and don't know what that guy think  when he do that. He can just easily earn big money in NBA but he just waste it for just for small profit and short time pleasure to have when he possibly win on his place bets. Now for sure that this guy will regret his decision since he can't earn big amount of money on other league. Also there are so many players around the world that dream to reach on NBA but he just waste his opportunity and now he receive a lifetime ban on this league.

For sure that player would regret his decision that he change his career to a $20k bet and this will be a huge warning to other player that they should not follow what this player did since this could ruin their career forever and be place on big shame because of stupid things he made.
He's ready to retire I guess. While most of the NBA players want to stay in the league and make more money and retire with a legacy, he didn't want it.

He wants quick money and then retires with a sad ending but it's a forced retirement because he can no longer play in the NBA. I also doubt it that he'd be hired back even for some back end jobs for the team that he's played with.

He had ruined his reputation with what he's done and it's true that he's going to regret it forever.
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April 18, 2024, 06:09:22 PM
The NBA has just announced a lifetime ban for player Jontay Porter from the Toronto Raptors for violating the league’s gaming rules. Jontay was apparently quite the gambler and while he claimed he never bet on his own games, the league still decided there was enough gambling to ban him forever. Tough break…
He bet for his team to lose.

That's crazy. With all of his $2M career earnings, he's got banned for just $20k+ of bet for his own team. I wouldn't do that, I might bet but I'd avoid to do what's written on the clause of my contract.

Or as much as possible, just avoid betting to anything related to your own sport when you're playing for a team. I guess that in every sport, we've got these athletes that does the same but not yet exposed.

It looks like he had a Two-Way Contract with the Raports, and his salary was only $400k this season. Maybe he just wanted to earn a little more and that's why he manipulated like that. Either way, it's the dumbest thing to do because if he had progressed in the NBA, he could have potentially made a few million dollars more over a few seasons.
Yeah, even if he wants to earn a bit from that. It's unwise to choose his own game for it, this happens in every sport but I guess that he had already accepted the fact that this might happen and it did.

With that lifetime earnings that he's got with the Raptors, he cannot get that with gambling because he's only betting for his own game and will do everything to just lose it.

$20K compared to the entire career earnings or his salary monthly.

Its really crazy decision and don't know what that guy think  when he do that. He can just easily earn big money in NBA but he just waste it for just for small profit and short time pleasure to have when he possibly win on his place bets. Now for sure that this guy will regret his decision since he can't earn big amount of money on other league. Also there are so many players around the world that dream to reach on NBA but he just waste his opportunity and now he receive a lifetime ban on this league.

For sure that player would regret his decision that he change his career to a $20k bet and this will be a huge warning to other player that they should not follow what this player did since this could ruin their career forever and be place on big shame because of stupid things he made.
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April 18, 2024, 05:51:59 PM
The NBA has just announced a lifetime ban for player Jontay Porter from the Toronto Raptors for violating the league’s gaming rules. Jontay was apparently quite the gambler and while he claimed he never bet on his own games, the league still decided there was enough gambling to ban him forever. Tough break…
He bet for his team to lose.

That's crazy. With all of his $2M career earnings, he's got banned for just $20k+ of bet for his own team. I wouldn't do that, I might bet but I'd avoid to do what's written on the clause of my contract.

Or as much as possible, just avoid betting to anything related to your own sport when you're playing for a team. I guess that in every sport, we've got these athletes that does the same but not yet exposed.

It looks like he had a Two-Way Contract with the Raports, and his salary was only $400k this season. Maybe he just wanted to earn a little more and that's why he manipulated like that. Either way, it's the dumbest thing to do because if he had progressed in the NBA, he could have potentially made a few million dollars more over a few seasons.
Yeah, even if he wants to earn a bit from that. It's unwise to choose his own game for it, this happens in every sport but I guess that he had already accepted the fact that this might happen and it did.

With that lifetime earnings that he's got with the Raptors, he cannot get that with gambling because he's only betting for his own game and will do everything to just lose it.

$20K compared to the entire career earnings or his salary monthly.
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April 18, 2024, 05:45:59 PM
No Jimmy Buckets!  Undecided

Jimmy Butler officially ruled out of Friday's do-or-die Play-In game vs. Bulls

We're waiting for him this play-in and then he's got injured for the very first game. This MCL sprain on his right knee really, come on. We know how he changes and puts himself into beast mode every play-in/playoffs that they're going.

I guess that there's no more threat to the Celtics with this news. But with the Bulls, as they'll be the one for their next matchup, everyone is going to put money on the line for the Bulls.
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April 18, 2024, 04:41:26 PM
I put a few satoshis down on the Chicago Bulls vs Atlanta Hawks game last night, and was pleasantly surprised at how well the Bulls played.  Now I don't think the Hawks are all the good, so it wasn't a huge win, but it was still impressive nonetheless, especially since the Bulls don't have their best player in Lavine playing.  Colby White went off last night!

If I'm not mistaken, they are a slight favorite in this game? They have been playing without Lavine for the longest time though, so I guess they have adjusted already. Hawks are still a very dangerous team, but what we saw on Trae Young, I don't think that he is 100%, he might still feeling that injury. And now that they are trolling that Trae deliberately under perform and will go to the Spurs next season,  Smiley

However all this game did was give Bulls fans false hope, extend the season to make more money for an owner who doesn't truly care about putting a quality team on the floor.  I guess I'm kind of excited for their next game, but it's all just false hope.  I will not be betting on the Bulls going forward, but on their opponent.

I think the owner tried to put some good players behind Lavine in the last 2 years, it's that it didn't click. And now Lavine's name is being throw out there to be in the trade for this season. Fortunately, he wasn't traded yet, but I'm seeing Lavine going to leave the Bulls next season and make DeRozan their primary scorer.
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April 18, 2024, 02:58:33 PM
Warriors are getting older and now there are talks about them not going for the whole season again with the same team. I mean Curry is a great player there is no doubt about that but he is no longer a guy who could take his team to title all by himself, he needs help. Normally Draymond Green and Klay Thompson would help him, but Klay Thompson had literally zero points all of the game, zero points!

When you are getting that bad, then it is time to reconsider the team and I believe that Warriors do need to consider it. They may not sign Klay back after such a horrible year, and they may just trade Draymond away as well. Then one thing is left, if Curry agrees to stay for many more years, rebuild around him, if not, then trade him away for picks and rebuild.
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April 18, 2024, 02:24:49 PM
I put a few satoshis down on the Chicago Bulls vs Atlanta Hawks game last night, and was pleasantly surprised at how well the Bulls played.  Now I don't think the Hawks are all the good, so it wasn't a huge win, but it was still impressive nonetheless, especially since the Bulls don't have their best player in Lavine playing.  Colby White went off last night!

However all this game did was give Bulls fans false hope, extend the season to make more money for an owner who doesn't truly care about putting a quality team on the floor.  I guess I'm kind of excited for their next game, but it's all just false hope.  I will not be betting on the Bulls going forward, but on their opponent.
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April 18, 2024, 01:54:36 PM
The NBA has just announced a lifetime ban for player Jontay Porter from the Toronto Raptors for violating the league’s gaming rules. Jontay was apparently quite the gambler and while he claimed he never bet on his own games, the league still decided there was enough gambling to ban him forever. Tough break…

He really literally did the "bet on yourself" quote. It is sad for him as he faces a lifetime ban from the NBA. I wonder how he will manage this problem. First,  he is unemployed because he is banned from the NBA, and second, people might see him as an "addict," and his image might be ruined in public. If he ever tried to go pro in a different league, teams might won't sign him because of this scandal and judge him. Teams might think that he is manipulating his stats, so signing him is kind of a risk for them.

But realistically speaking, if I were him, I would abandon the gambling and focus on training and leveling up my game since getting into the NBA is not an easy road, so you should not be taking things lightly like you are just playing a game. I really don't see the reason why he would risk his career just to get some money from gambling. 
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April 18, 2024, 01:42:17 PM
Everyone needs to be healthy as this point, one superstar missing could be very big specially if Zion will not play. We can't compare Monk and Huerter missing, of course they are part of the bench, but it terms of impact, Zion could be a equivalent of Sabonis or Fox. Monk is their 6th man, so the bigger impact is that Zion missing the game. And it will be at the advantage of the Kings now. Sacramento is now the slight favorite as far as betting currently, at 1.8x against the Pels without Zion at 2.0x. Ingram is on limited minutes and CJ hasn't had that breakthrough game. Lakers is almost 3:1 underdog in game 1 against the Nuggets.
The problem with the Kings is they are not a good road team. We've seen them play so hard and well on their game against the Raptors but we can't expect the same scenario will happen versus the Pelicans. But honestly, it's really a huge loss for the Pelicans not having Zion, so I think the value goes to the Kings, take it early while the line hasn't move yet because I will.

Yeah, but then again, with a do or die game on the line, I would say that we should throw all this stats out of the window and just bet on the teams that likely will go on to win. And without Zion, who in their last games scored 40 or even 50 if he wasn't injured, it might be hard for a team to cover that huge gap in scoring.

It goes down again as this game is unpredictable, maybe there are Kings fans that are happy to see them have a great chance to win again even on the road against a very good team just because their main player is not going to play.
That is absolutely an advantage for the Kings. It increases their chances of winning. However, as you mentioned, games are unpredictable. There are games where teams with superstars less still manage to win against those with their superstars playing. I feel bad for Zion; he worked hard this season and made it to the 7th seed, but now his chances of playing in the playoffs have become slim again. Just when he is needed the most, here comes an injury.

Yep, very tough luck for the pelican. Early in the season, I thought this was their time to rise in the NBA. They beat some great-caliber teams, and they are in the middle to top of the standings and doing very well. Zion is playing well and healthy, Brandon Ingram is balling out too, and with the lead of veteran guard CJ McCollum and some great supporting casts on the team, I really thought that they got rid of the curse, but seeing how they turned out this postseason, losing two straight against the Lakers, and the worst part is losing their best player through injury.

Without Zion, it will be very hard for the Pelicans to win this last play-in game, with Brandon Ingram struggling and McCollum too. Against the Kings, they can still win it if those players I've mentioned get out of their slump and have awakened. Another thing to add is that it will be the Pelicans home court, so this can be an advantage for them since the Kings are that great on the road.
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April 18, 2024, 12:49:21 PM
He doesn't need to worry about it because he is still young and has lots of improvement to have in the future, too bad that the expectations for him back when he was a rookie was too much and it affected him clearly because in every game at that time, he should do some crazy dunks and clutch because that's what he was in college when he was playing in Duke, he didn't take it slowly as Wemby does nowadays, so the risk was high and he took lots of damage because of that and need to undergo multiple sidelines due to his injuries. That's why people making fun of him to be the next Greg Oden because they have similarities in terms of their careers.

I dont think so. For me, whatever happens with Zion's performance should be given attention. We're already at the point where he can still improve, but if his career continues with him getting injured every season, his market value could decrease. As for their upcoming game against the Kings, I really think they have a good chance of winning if Zion will against the Kings, if not it's 50:50 for me. Even in their last game against the Lakers, they could have won if Zion hadn't been injured.
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