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legendary
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June 30, 2021, 06:57:05 PM
It's time for the Bucks to show the world that they are not only relying on Giannis to win.
We have high paid superstar, Lopez, Middleton and Holiday should be able to handle this and protect their home by winning game 5.

I don't think I agree here.  The Bucks do need Giannis to win.  He's the heart of their entire system.  Without him they're a bunch of average NBA players or aging former all star candidates.

Lopez, Middleton, and Holiday are also the keys to why Milwaukee Bucks become one of the contenders in the Eastern Conference. If we removed all superstars on the teams on the East, Milwaukee Bucks is still on their best lineup or maybe at the top.

They can defeat the Hawks even without Giannis but I agree with you that on Finals, it's a no-brainer to think that they don't need Giannis. Hoping he can recovers if they will able to pass the Hawks and enter the NBA Finals.
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June 30, 2021, 06:54:02 PM
But with that, they are now well aware that Hawks offense isn't just Trae Young. That lose should serve them a lesson.

I don't see Bucks having a disadvantage if Giannis won't play. They still far have the better lineup. On the other hand, the Hawks don't have their main guy too so it's just equal if ever both won't play the next game and so.

If the Hawks were able to adjust without Trae then Bucks should do the same. But whoever wins on that series, it's now necessary to have their main guy play. With the remaining teams battling for the chip, Phoenix Suns is the only team playing with the healthy lineup currently.
Yes! This is the time where adjustments are made. Playoffs and Finals.
Now that Giannis is out of the picture, Middleton could wreak havoc and Jrue Holiday could focus on his offense without worrying about the status of Giannis being the MVP for the Finals.
Let's not overreact to the Hawks win because both of them stole 1 game in their respective home courts. That means both are also looking for new ways to counter-attack and it's good, adding uncertainty to which team will win the game.
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June 30, 2021, 06:51:11 PM
Tied at 2-2.
This is crucial for Hawks and Bucks.

Unexpected things happened, lots of changes on the odds, it was actually the Bucks who stays at the favorites to win the NBA championship, now it's the Suns. If the Clippers will beat the Suns in the series and Hawks advances in the NBA Finals, I guess the Hawks still got a big chance since Leonard was still not playing, but it would be a long series again. It's hard to predict on what will happen here, but if Suns advance, they'll likely become the NBA champion and CP3 will have his first championship and could possibly win the Finals MVP as well.
It is my personal favorite to see them that the ring for this season. But as said, such unexpected things really are happening. We'll see on their game 5 if some changes has happened but game 6 is a sure thing. But hopefully if fate isn't in favor of Bucks, it will reach game 7.
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June 30, 2021, 04:48:47 PM
It's time for the Bucks to show the world that they are not only relying on Giannis to win.
We have high paid superstar, Lopez, Middleton and Holiday should be able to handle this and protect their home by winning game 5.

I don't think I agree here.  The Bucks do need Giannis to win.  He's the heart of their entire system.  Without him they're a bunch of average NBA players or aging former all star candidates.  I don't think the Hawks are anywhere near the top of NBA teams either, and it's a bit of a mystery how they managed to get this far, but it's looking very promising for them to reach the Finals without Giannis in the picture.  All you can do is hope his knee heals miraculously overnight so he's good to go tomorrow. 

Bottom line, without Giannis in the picture, you might as well start passing out rings after the western conference finals. 

Unexpected things happened, lots of changes on the odds, it was actually the Bucks who stays at the favorites to win the NBA championship, now it's the Suns. If the Clippers will beat the Suns in the series and Hawks advances in the NBA Finals, I guess the Hawks still got a big chance since Leonard was still not playing, but it would be a long series again. It's hard to predict on what will happen here, but if Suns advance, they'll likely become the NBA champion and CP3 will have his first championship and could possibly win the Finals MVP as well.
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June 30, 2021, 04:46:41 PM
Bucks did not see it coming, they thought it would be easy for them because Trae Young did not play, but they are wrong, the Hawks are much better in this game as the shooters are scoring and even their rookie are contributing pretty well.

But with that, they are now well aware that Hawks offense isn't just Trae Young. That lose should serve them a lesson.

I don't see Bucks having a disadvantage if Giannis won't play. They still far have the better lineup. On the other hand, the Hawks don't have their main guy too so it's just equal if ever both won't play the next game and so.

If the Hawks were able to adjust without Trae then Bucks should do the same. But whoever wins on that series, it's now necessary to have their main guy play. With the remaining teams battling for the chip, Phoenix Suns is the only team playing with the healthy lineup currently.

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June 30, 2021, 04:35:33 PM
It's time for the Bucks to show the world that they are not only relying on Giannis to win.
We have high paid superstar, Lopez, Middleton and Holiday should be able to handle this and protect their home by winning game 5.

I don't think I agree here.  The Bucks do need Giannis to win.  He's the heart of their entire system.  Without him they're a bunch of average NBA players or aging former all star candidates.  I don't think the Hawks are anywhere near the top of NBA teams either, and it's a bit of a mystery how they managed to get this far, but it's looking very promising for them to reach the Finals without Giannis in the picture.  All you can do is hope his knee heals miraculously overnight so he's good to go tomorrow. 

Bottom line, without Giannis in the picture, you might as well start passing out rings after the western conference finals. 
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June 30, 2021, 04:16:11 PM
The injury gotten by Giannis is so scary and Bucks now is endangered  if Giannis cannot really play on the rest of this series.

Very scary, in fact, their betting odds for the championship is now 4.00, before that loss and injury of Giannis, it was 2+.. I think the injury is serious, but we will know after the MRI which he will be scheduled soon. If it will result of Giannis being out in the series, I think the Clippers will have a big chance of winning the series, lol.
This is what we called anything could really happen when the game isnt over yet. Expect the unexpected to happen and these injuries are actually been part of any sports and now Giannis had

been injured which i do see a bit serious but for now it wasnt confirmed yet and lets hope that he's fine.This is actually a turn of events and do give out even more chance for Clippers on winning this.

I dont see that one could really heal up on a short time but well thats just my presumption.

I have a feeling that Giannis might not be able to play in the series anymore. He has been a major help for the team as they are their star player, but with Giannis injury, it might aggravate if he forced to play, of course, he doesn't want to end up like KD that has aggravated his injury before and missed the whole season because of that decision.

I guess, with or without him, Bucks would be able to handle the Hawks, and it will be a close series game.

He won't be back in game 5, that's according to the latest update.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/2067655/giannis-antetokounmpo

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Bucks' Giannis Antetokounmpo: Officially doubtful for Game 5
by RotoWire Staff | RotoWire
Antetokounmpo (knee) is listed as doubtful for Thursday's Game 5 against the Hawks.

The good news for Milwaukee is Antetokounmpo did not suffer any structural damage to his left knee, but his prospects for returning during the Eastern Conference Finals appear to be relatively bleak. The Bucks will handle his status on a game-to-game basis, but as of Wednesday afternoon, the team will brace to be without its two-time MVP as it heads into an extremely pivotal Game 5.

It's time for the Bucks to show the world that they are not only relying on Giannis to win.
We have high paid superstar, Lopez, Middleton and Holiday should be able to handle this and protect their home by winning game 5.
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June 30, 2021, 03:59:03 PM
The injury gotten by Giannis is so scary and Bucks now is endangered  if Giannis cannot really play on the rest of this series.

Very scary, in fact, their betting odds for the championship is now 4.00, before that loss and injury of Giannis, it was 2+.. I think the injury is serious, but we will know after the MRI which he will be scheduled soon. If it will result of Giannis being out in the series, I think the Clippers will have a big chance of winning the series, lol.
This is what we called anything could really happen when the game isnt over yet. Expect the unexpected to happen and these injuries are actually been part of any sports and now Giannis had

been injured which i do see a bit serious but for now it wasnt confirmed yet and lets hope that he's fine.This is actually a turn of events and do give out even more chance for Clippers on winning this.

I dont see that one could really heal up on a short time but well thats just my presumption.

I have a feeling that Giannis might not be able to play in the series anymore. He has been a major help for the team as they are their star player, but with Giannis injury, it might aggravate if he forced to play, of course, he doesn't want to end up like KD that has aggravated his injury before and missed the whole season because of that decision.

I guess, with or without him, Bucks would be able to handle the Hawks, and it will be a close series game.
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June 30, 2021, 01:50:17 PM
The injury gotten by Giannis is so scary and Bucks now is endangered  if Giannis cannot really play on the rest of this series.

Very scary, in fact, their betting odds for the championship is now 4.00, before that loss and injury of Giannis, it was 2+.. I think the injury is serious, but we will know after the MRI which he will be scheduled soon. If it will result of Giannis being out in the series, I think the Clippers will have a big chance of winning the series, lol.
This is what we called anything could really happen when the game isnt over yet. Expect the unexpected to happen and these injuries are actually been part of any sports and now Giannis had

been injured which i do see a bit serious but for now it wasnt confirmed yet and lets hope that he's fine.This is actually a turn of events and do give out even more chance for Clippers on winning this.

I dont see that one could really heal up on a short time but well thats just my presumption.
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June 30, 2021, 01:44:13 PM
Hawks - Bucks series is going on great. In the fourth leg of the series, Hawks managed to beat Bucks 110-88. And it's 2-2 now.

I can't say that there was a player who played really awesome. There was a teamplay at both teams. Players had similar statistics.

Trae Young couldn't play because of an injury. And unfortunately, Giannis had a left knee problem during the game. I hope that these players both get well and we can see them in the next game.
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June 30, 2021, 01:30:14 PM
Hi guys, here is my bet for today:

Clippers - Suns - x1.91: My bet

I watched the last matches of the Clippers vs Suns, to be honest, there is already good progress. There is a high probability that the Clippers will show their full power today in LA, as they did in Game 5. George and Jackson are going overboard to win the streak, so today I will bet on them.
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June 30, 2021, 12:32:13 PM
Trae didn't leave his team, that's the good side of him. He stayed on the sidelines to cheer for them. Leaders like him make a huge impact on the team if they meant every support they could give.
Doesn't need to force it, all he has to do is trust his teammates to take the win and they did.
Cam Reddish given minutes was all worth it contributing 2/3 in 3 points, 2 steals, and 1 block. Surprising. We got to see bench players wake up their ability in a nail-biting ECF.
Trae is a wonderful entertainer and a great player but lets not give him credit for every single thing, next stop is giving him credit for breathing.

Almost all players who get injured to watch their teams at home, and if they are fine and not in the middle of an important recovery process (like lets say surgery or requires resting) then they may even go to road games as well. This game was in Atlanta anyway so him being there on the conference finals of Hawks... for the first time ever? Or probably first time in many decades, is something we can all agree to say a normal thing, that is not a shocker, it is expected.

Giannis however looked like he had a horrible situation, him walking back to bench could be a good sign but at the same time in the sport injury world I have seen different situations, Kobe walked away after hitting his free throws, WITH AN ACL INJURY, I have seen people act like they died from something minor, so we can't really say how serious it is by just seeing him walk.
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June 30, 2021, 12:27:40 PM

They need to comes up with everything that they've got. it's an opportunities to help as the team needed it so badly, without your main man the team needs to work together and try all the best that they can give to stay in this series.

And it's true, that mental contribution even he (Trae) is not playing but by him beside the bench and help the coach to create strategy that's already  counts, trusting all your buddies to play and cheer them up not to give up and continue their run.


looks like the Atlanta Hawks have revised their strategy and it works well since they beat the Bucks with huge points to send a thrilling game 5 to the Milwaukee Bucks home court again. This is kind of the game we are talking about and it is happening right now where both teams won't just give up the series until they give everythi9ng they've got and looks like the Western Conference Finals will be the same in their next match.  

Bucks did not see it coming, they thought it would be easy for them because Trae Young did not play, but they are wrong, the Hawks are much better in this game as the shooters are scoring and even their rookie are contributing pretty well. The 3 point shooting was a major weapon of the Hawks in this game, they look so unmatch in papers but they are actually hard to beat in real game.

Probobly the biggest win in this NBA series the most surprising one. Without Trae Young everyone was thinking that this would be a blowout by Bucks. But Bogdanovic and other guys just nailed those 3 pointers. Those 13 three pointers made a huge diffrence in this match,also Hawks were better o most in every segment of the game
I think its because Giannis is injured and unable to play, is the reason why they win, and its has impacted the bucks when their top players are injured, it will be planted on their head the injury, and fear that might happen to them, their morale goes down, while the hawks see the opening and take the opportunity since they are threatened by Giannis underneath the basket, but now they are free, to attack the basket, and also outside is open.

Atlanta is playing very good and had the lead before Giannis is injured. So I will say that it's not the only reason why the Hawks won. Bucks is shooting horrendously in that game, you can see that they didn't even hit 100 points and the top scorer is Jrue Holiday with 19 points. So credit the Hawks, not the Giannis injury for their big win without Trae Young.

Cam Reddish came in big too, we haven't seen him in the Hawks playoff games, but he was inserted and really impacted the game with his defense. John Collins who I expect to somewhat carry the team, just scored 4 points. But Lou Williams and Bogdanovic and Gallinari do the damage early and Bucks can't recover from the lead that the Hawks built in the first quarter.
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June 30, 2021, 11:57:36 AM

I think its because Giannis is injured and unable to play, is the reason why they win, and its has impacted the bucks when their top players are injured, it will be planted on their head the injury, and fear that might happen to them, their morale goes down, while the hawks see the opening and take the opportunity since they are threatened by Giannis underneath the basket, but now they are free, to attack the basket, and also outside is open.

That's valid  Smiley the impact of seeing your best player having that injury worries you much, instead of using it as inspiration it turned to the other side  and lower the moral of each players. Hawks use this situation to keep attacking and luckily they've got those 3's that really pull them up to make wider leads not to allow bucks to settle and have a good rally to keep the distance near.

Game 5 is very important for both squad winner will have a better edge to win this series..
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June 30, 2021, 10:56:39 AM

They need to comes up with everything that they've got. it's an opportunities to help as the team needed it so badly, without your main man the team needs to work together and try all the best that they can give to stay in this series.

And it's true, that mental contribution even he (Trae) is not playing but by him beside the bench and help the coach to create strategy that's already  counts, trusting all your buddies to play and cheer them up not to give up and continue their run.


looks like the Atlanta Hawks have revised their strategy and it works well since they beat the Bucks with huge points to send a thrilling game 5 to the Milwaukee Bucks home court again. This is kind of the game we are talking about and it is happening right now where both teams won't just give up the series until they give everythi9ng they've got and looks like the Western Conference Finals will be the same in their next match.  

Bucks did not see it coming, they thought it would be easy for them because Trae Young did not play, but they are wrong, the Hawks are much better in this game as the shooters are scoring and even their rookie are contributing pretty well. The 3 point shooting was a major weapon of the Hawks in this game, they look so unmatch in papers but they are actually hard to beat in real game.

Probobly the biggest win in this NBA series the most surprising one. Without Trae Young everyone was thinking that this would be a blowout by Bucks. But Bogdanovic and other guys just nailed those 3 pointers. Those 13 three pointers made a huge diffrence in this match,also Hawks were better o most in every segment of the game
I think its because Giannis is injured and unable to play, is the reason why they win, and its has impacted the bucks when their top players are injured, it will be planted on their head the injury, and fear that might happen to them, their morale goes down, while the hawks see the opening and take the opportunity since they are threatened by Giannis underneath the basket, but now they are free, to attack the basket, and also outside is open.
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June 30, 2021, 09:48:37 AM

They need to comes up with everything that they've got. it's an opportunities to help as the team needed it so badly, without your main man the team needs to work together and try all the best that they can give to stay in this series.

And it's true, that mental contribution even he (Trae) is not playing but by him beside the bench and help the coach to create strategy that's already  counts, trusting all your buddies to play and cheer them up not to give up and continue their run.


looks like the Atlanta Hawks have revised their strategy and it works well since they beat the Bucks with huge points to send a thrilling game 5 to the Milwaukee Bucks home court again. This is kind of the game we are talking about and it is happening right now where both teams won't just give up the series until they give everythi9ng they've got and looks like the Western Conference Finals will be the same in their next match.  

Bucks did not see it coming, they thought it would be easy for them because Trae Young did not play, but they are wrong, the Hawks are much better in this game as the shooters are scoring and even their rookie are contributing pretty well. The 3 point shooting was a major weapon of the Hawks in this game, they look so unmatch in papers but they are actually hard to beat in real game.

Probobly the biggest win in this NBA series the most surprising one. Without Trae Young everyone was thinking that this would be a blowout by Bucks. But Bogdanovic and other guys just nailed those 3 pointers. Those 13 three pointers made a huge diffrence in this match,also Hawks were better o most in every segment of the game
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June 30, 2021, 07:34:52 AM
The injury gotten by Giannis is so scary and Bucks now is endangered  if Giannis cannot really play on the rest of this series.

Very scary, in fact, their betting odds for the championship is now 4.00, before that loss and injury of Giannis, it was 2+.. I think the injury is serious, but we will know after the MRI which he will be scheduled soon. If it will result of Giannis being out in the series, I think the Clippers will have a big chance of winning the series, lol.
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June 30, 2021, 07:27:58 AM
I can’t believe that an Atlanta Hawks vs Phoenix Suns Finals matchup looks like a strong possibility at the moment. If you would have told me that two years ago I would have said you were absolutely crazy. It’s great to see how both teams benefitted from good trades by their GM to make this possible. Phoenix took a chance on Chris Paul’s contract and Atlanta took a chance grabbing Capela from the Rockets. Examples of winning championships from the boardroom.

True. This had not been in any analysts predictions list. One issue will always be chemistry but the Suns did great at the bubble last year.
It's a good proof that they always want to win. Then they shocked the world again by getting a higher rank in the West which is also not in the prediction. Some said they will be at 5th-7th rank because they didn't win the play-in tournament 2020. (even if they didn't really lose)

Atlanta Hawks will be the most shocking turn of events. 76ers, Bucks, Nets, Heat and Celtics had always been the favorites. If they pull this one for Conference Finals they will always be on the top 8 predictions from now on. Better, top 4.
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June 30, 2021, 07:24:14 AM

They need to comes up with everything that they've got. it's an opportunities to help as the team needed it so badly, without your main man the team needs to work together and try all the best that they can give to stay in this series.

And it's true, that mental contribution even he (Trae) is not playing but by him beside the bench and help the coach to create strategy that's already  counts, trusting all your buddies to play and cheer them up not to give up and continue their run.


looks like the Atlanta Hawks have revised their strategy and it works well since they beat the Bucks with huge points to send a thrilling game 5 to the Milwaukee Bucks home court again. This is kind of the game we are talking about and it is happening right now where both teams won't just give up the series until they give everythi9ng they've got and looks like the Western Conference Finals will be the same in their next match.  

Bucks did not see it coming, they thought it would be easy for them because Trae Young did not play, but they are wrong, the Hawks are much better in this game as the shooters are scoring and even their rookie are contributing pretty well. The 3 point shooting was a major weapon of the Hawks in this game, they look so unmatch in papers but they are actually hard to beat in real game.

The early exit of Giannis contribute the collapsed of bucks,  they struggle of defensive ends and the physicality has been lessen due  to this incident that's why the hawks shooter step up this game. The injury gotten by Giannis is so scary and Bucks now is endangered  if Giannis cannot really play on the rest of this series.
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June 30, 2021, 07:20:05 AM

They need to comes up with everything that they've got. it's an opportunities to help as the team needed it so badly, without your main man the team needs to work together and try all the best that they can give to stay in this series.

And it's true, that mental contribution even he (Trae) is not playing but by him beside the bench and help the coach to create strategy that's already  counts, trusting all your buddies to play and cheer them up not to give up and continue their run.


looks like the Atlanta Hawks have revised their strategy and it works well since they beat the Bucks with huge points to send a thrilling game 5 to the Milwaukee Bucks home court again. This is kind of the game we are talking about and it is happening right now where both teams won't just give up the series until they give everythi9ng they've got and looks like the Western Conference Finals will be the same in their next match.  

Bucks did not see it coming, they thought it would be easy for them because Trae Young did not play, but they are wrong, the Hawks are much better in this game as the shooters are scoring and even their rookie are contributing pretty well. The 3 point shooting was a major weapon of the Hawks in this game, they look so unmatch in papers but they are actually hard to beat in real game.
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