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April 13, 2024, 10:25:46 AM
I think the Lakers, Warriors, and Kings are all fighting for the last play in game spot aren't they? 2 out of 3 of those teams will not make the Playoffs. I think Lakers prob make it in personally.

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Loser of 7 and 8 will face the winner of the 9 and 10.. So if the Lakers will end at the top 8 and they loss to the Suns, they still have one shot by playing the winner of 9 and 10.. So there's an advantage in finishing at 8 rather than 9 or 10.

The Lakers will need to win against the Pelicans on their last game, otherwise they'll fall below the 10th seed again if the Kings and Warriors win theirs. As far as I'm aware of, tie breakers in the NBA are head-to-head record first. So, that means the Lakers are below against the Warriors (1-3) and the Kings (0-4).
The Warriors and the Kings on the other hand is tied against each other this season, so I think there is another criteria for this to determine who's going to be in the 8th seed. I have been following the games from these 3 teams as things are getting interesting between them.

That's gonna be tough for the Lakers as the Pelicans are having a good momentum now, they were 4-0 on the road and the home game is their last game. I'm sure they'll still continue to play hard as they don't want to have a record tied with the Phoenix Suns, owning that number 6 based on record is way easier. If the Lakers will drop to the number 10, that is not good for them especially if they'll face the Warriors as Curry would not allow to lose, so it will be a 50-50 battle.
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April 13, 2024, 08:54:09 AM
I think the Lakers, Warriors, and Kings are all fighting for the last play in game spot aren't they? 2 out of 3 of those teams will not make the Playoffs. I think Lakers prob make it in personally.

This is the rules of the play in
https://www.nba.com/news/nba-play-in-tournament

Loser of 7 and 8 will face the winner of the 9 and 10.. So if the Lakers will end at the top 8 and they loss to the Suns, they still have one shot by playing the winner of 9 and 10.. So there's an advantage in finishing at 8 rather than 9 or 10.

The Lakers will need to win against the Pelicans on their last game, otherwise they'll fall below the 10th seed again if the Kings and Warriors win theirs. As far as I'm aware of, tie breakers in the NBA are head-to-head record first. So, that means the Lakers are below against the Warriors (1-3) and the Kings (0-4).
The Warriors and the Kings on the other hand is tied against each other this season, so I think there is another criteria for this to determine who's going to be in the 8th seed. I have been following the games from these 3 teams as things are getting interesting between them.
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April 13, 2024, 08:51:54 AM
I think the Lakers, Warriors, and Kings are all fighting for the last play in game spot aren't they? 2 out of 3 of those teams will not make the Playoffs. I think Lakers prob make it in personally.

This is the rules of the play in
https://www.nba.com/news/nba-play-in-tournament

Loser of 7 and 8 will face the winner of the 9 and 10.. So if the Lakers will end at the top 8 and they loss to the Suns, they still have one shot by playing the winner of 9 and 10.. So there's an advantage in finishing at 8 rather than 9 or 10.

Yes, it's better to be on the 8th position rather than 9 or 10 between. 9 and 10 will be on a death match or at least they have to win twice to advance. And after that they will be facing the top seed.

Kings losing again and now they are tied with the Warriors at the 9 and 10 spot, and the Lakers moving to 8th position now.

I haven't check the history of the last 3 teams, do you have an idea what would be the ranking in case they will end up tied? I know that these three will have their last games, but what if Lakers will lose and the Kings and Warriors will win, that would result to 46-36 record for all three.
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April 13, 2024, 08:29:13 AM
I think the Lakers, Warriors, and Kings are all fighting for the last play in game spot aren't they? 2 out of 3 of those teams will not make the Playoffs. I think Lakers prob make it in personally.

This is the rules of the play in
https://www.nba.com/news/nba-play-in-tournament

Loser of 7 and 8 will face the winner of the 9 and 10.. So if the Lakers will end at the top 8 and they loss to the Suns, they still have one shot by playing the winner of 9 and 10.. So there's an advantage in finishing at 8 rather than 9 or 10.

Yes, it's better to be on the 8th position rather than 9 or 10 between. 9 and 10 will be on a death match or at least they have to win twice to advance. And after that they will be facing the top seed.

Kings losing again and now they are tied with the Warriors at the 9 and 10 spot, and the Lakers moving to 8th position now.
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April 13, 2024, 08:06:24 AM
I think the Lakers, Warriors, and Kings are all fighting for the last play in game spot aren't they? 2 out of 3 of those teams will not make the Playoffs. I think Lakers prob make it in personally.

This is the rules of the play in
https://www.nba.com/news/nba-play-in-tournament

Loser of 7 and 8 will face the winner of the 9 and 10.. So if the Lakers will end at the top 8 and they loss to the Suns, they still have one shot by playing the winner of 9 and 10.. So there's an advantage in finishing at 8 rather than 9 or 10.
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April 13, 2024, 07:52:58 AM
But it was even better when the ball was gotta be on the out of bounds and that ball save by White but then passed to Lebron and what a way to finish that posession.
Big finish by Lebron and with that shot they have the win. Honestly I think the game would be easy for the Lakers but it turns out they are having a hard time beating the undermanned Memphis Grizzlies, so now I have doubt if they can beat the Phoenix Suns. With that win also, that put them at the number 8 possesion, which means even if they loss to the Suns, they still have a chance on a do or die game.

Davis and Lebron were beast in that game, but if they want to make this team advance in the playoffs, they need everyone to get involve, especially  Russell who was out of tune in this game scoring 4 points only.
Yeah, what a way to finish the game and I thought that we'll see some clutch. But we actually saw a clutch but that's a different clutch that we're not expecting.

This is what really means when there's still time left, anything can happen but on this game, it was still in the favor of the Lakers instead of the Memphis.
Clutch in terms of defense but if that was a last shot that is far from the ring, that would not sink in as we know Lebron is not that type of clutch player.

Next game of Lakers is on Monday against the Pelicans. Whilst for the Pelicans, they've just won against the Warriors today.

I think it's not anymore a bearing game for the Pelicans because even if the Pelicans will be tied with the Suns in case the Suns will beat the Timberwolves, I think The Pelicans have more wins between them and the Suns. However, for the Lakers, Warriors, and Kings which are currently tied, they all have their last games, so it's still important to them as they are aiming from that 7th or 8th spot.
I think the Lakers, Warriors, and Kings are all fighting for the last play in game spot aren't they? 2 out of 3 of those teams will not make the Playoffs. I think Lakers prob make it in personally.
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April 13, 2024, 07:45:45 AM
But it was even better when the ball was gotta be on the out of bounds and that ball save by White but then passed to Lebron and what a way to finish that posession.
Big finish by Lebron and with that shot they have the win. Honestly I think the game would be easy for the Lakers but it turns out they are having a hard time beating the undermanned Memphis Grizzlies, so now I have doubt if they can beat the Phoenix Suns. With that win also, that put them at the number 8 possesion, which means even if they loss to the Suns, they still have a chance on a do or die game.

Davis and Lebron were beast in that game, but if they want to make this team advance in the playoffs, they need everyone to get involve, especially  Russell who was out of tune in this game scoring 4 points only.
Yeah, what a way to finish the game and I thought that we'll see some clutch. But we actually saw a clutch but that's a different clutch that we're not expecting.

This is what really means when there's still time left, anything can happen but on this game, it was still in the favor of the Lakers instead of the Memphis.
Clutch in terms of defense but if that was a last shot that is far from the ring, that would not sink in as we know Lebron is not that type of clutch player.

Next game of Lakers is on Monday against the Pelicans. Whilst for the Pelicans, they've just won against the Warriors today.

I think it's not anymore a bearing game for the Pelicans because even if the Pelicans will be tied with the Suns in case the Suns will beat the Timberwolves, I think The Pelicans have more wins between them and the Suns. However, for the Lakers, Warriors, and Kings which are currently tied, they all have their last games, so it's still important to them as they are aiming from that 7th or 8th spot.
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April 13, 2024, 07:43:24 AM
But it was even better when the ball was gotta be on the out of bounds and that ball save by White but then passed to Lebron and what a way to finish that posession.
Big finish by Lebron and with that shot they have the win. Honestly I think the game would be easy for the Lakers but it turns out they are having a hard time beating the undermanned Memphis Grizzlies, so now I have doubt if they can beat the Phoenix Suns. With that win also, that put them at the number 8 possesion, which means even if they loss to the Suns, they still have a chance on a do or die game.

Davis and Lebron were beast in that game, but if they want to make this team advance in the playoffs, they need everyone to get involve, especially  Russell who was out of tune in this game scoring 4 points only.
Yeah, what a way to finish the game and I thought that we'll see some clutch. But we actually saw a clutch but that's a different clutch that we're not expecting.

This is what really means when there's still time left, anything can happen but on this game, it was still in the favor of the Lakers instead of the Memphis.

Next game of Lakers is on Monday against the Pelicans. Whilst for the Pelicans, they've just won against the Warriors today.

Yeah, Lakers survived this scare, I thought that they are going to lose this game because GG Jackson was so hot in the last minute or two of the game. And so it's a wild ending and Lebron's IQ wins the game for them. He followed the ball and he knows that it will be almost outside and it's bound to be pass and so he track it and then that windmill trade mark dunk of him to sell the win.

Still a tough game for them against the Pelicans who are in a winning streak and just beat the Warriors in their home court.
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April 13, 2024, 07:24:15 AM
But it was even better when the ball was gotta be on the out of bounds and that ball save by White but then passed to Lebron and what a way to finish that posession.
Big finish by Lebron and with that shot they have the win. Honestly I think the game would be easy for the Lakers but it turns out they are having a hard time beating the undermanned Memphis Grizzlies, so now I have doubt if they can beat the Phoenix Suns. With that win also, that put them at the number 8 possesion, which means even if they loss to the Suns, they still have a chance on a do or die game.

Davis and Lebron were beast in that game, but if they want to make this team advance in the playoffs, they need everyone to get involve, especially  Russell who was out of tune in this game scoring 4 points only.
Yeah, what a way to finish the game and I thought that we'll see some clutch. But we actually saw a clutch but that's a different clutch that we're not expecting.

This is what really means when there's still time left, anything can happen but on this game, it was still in the favor of the Lakers instead of the Memphis.

Next game of Lakers is on Monday against the Pelicans. Whilst for the Pelicans, they've just won against the Warriors today.
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April 13, 2024, 06:36:42 AM
Even coach Rivers has been criticized as well with how he handles the Bucks. And all we all know that he was a replacement coach but is doing worst than Adrian Griffin. And we also notice that to the Lakers as they have Ham, but there's not much of a difference than Frank Vogel stint with the Lakers.

What the Bucks are thinking was the playoffs, they know that they can be in the playoffs but it would be different with having Doc Rivers due to his experience and having won a championship before. Yes, he was criticized but if he can bring the Bucks even in the championship, that will be eliminated by the success he made. I think the management are just willing to gamble, and this coming playoffs is going to be the test that the team should pass, because if they will have an early exit, that would mean Doc Rivers stay aren't gonna last.

Yes, it will be different to have a coach with that experience, but nevertheless, the teams that he had success was with the Boston Celtics. And after that era, he hadn't had teams in the finals and on the contrary, have been choking in the playoff series.

Bucks though has history of firing their coach. Budenholzer give them a ring and Adrian Griffin was doing good until he is replace by Doc Rivers.

Either case, let's see if that gamble will pay off for the Bucks this season. And it all defense on Giannis recovering from that calf injuries he suffer.
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April 13, 2024, 06:02:21 AM
But it was even better when the ball was gotta be on the out of bounds and that ball save by White but then passed to Lebron and what a way to finish that posession.
Big finish by Lebron and with that shot they have the win. Honestly I think the game would be easy for the Lakers but it turns out they are having a hard time beating the undermanned Memphis Grizzlies, so now I have doubt if they can beat the Phoenix Suns. With that win also, that put them at the number 8 possesion, which means even if they loss to the Suns, they still have a chance on a do or die game.

Davis and Lebron were beast in that game, but if they want to make this team advance in the playoffs, they need everyone to get involve, especially  Russell who was out of tune in this game scoring 4 points only.
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April 13, 2024, 04:49:33 AM
That last seconds of Memphis and Lakers was funny. Honestly, the last shot game and ball posession of Memphis shouldn't be that hard but that drive didn't go in, 3 points in the lead of Lakers but got a drive in on the paint.

But it was even better when the ball was gotta be on the out of bounds and that ball save by White but then passed to Lebron and what a way to finish that posession.

Ja Morant even pushed him and LBJ was just laughing at him, LMAO!
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April 13, 2024, 04:38:05 AM
What a great game in Sacramento but there's no "Light the Beam" today. Cheesy

Phoenix Suns! Wow. They made the Kings scoreless for the whole last minute or more. Beal got a steal to cut the lead to two and then Nurkic was fouled to get the lead.
The defense on the last possession though was superb. Help came, they tripled team Fox and he was not able to find a man to pass the ball so he turned it over. This is a big win for the Suns as they are trying to secure their 7th spot so they only need one win in the play-in tournament to advance to the playoffs.
That hurts the Kings though who are trying to make it to the 8th spot but as of now it is still a clinched position as the Lakers will play the Pelicans next. They might lose here if the Pelicans will still let their starters play.

Kings not gonna win because they are just relying too much on Fox, if you review the last few possesions, it's all Fox and he is missing some shots. Situation like that, they really need Monk to help fox create some points, it's just unfortunate that he wasn't able to return yet, and now it looks like the Kings are gonna play with the Warriors in a do or die game.
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April 13, 2024, 01:59:32 AM
What a great game in Sacramento but there's no "Light the Beam" today. Cheesy

Phoenix Suns! Wow. They made the Kings scoreless for the whole last minute or more. Beal got a steal to cut the lead to two and then Nurkic was fouled to get the lead.
The defense on the last possession though was superb. Help came, they tripled team Fox and he was not able to find a man to pass the ball so he turned it over. This is a big win for the Suns as they are trying to secure their 7th spot so they only need one win in the play-in tournament to advance to the playoffs.
That hurts the Kings though who are trying to make it to the 8th spot but as of now it is still a clinched position as the Lakers will play the Pelicans next. They might lose here if the Pelicans will still let their starters play.
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April 12, 2024, 07:39:51 PM
I just really don't think that the Warriors will win in the playoffs without Draymond Green.
People might hate him for how he plays dirty inside the ring but he's an important piece of the Warriors and he's contributed a lot and he, and key players like Klay and Steph knows about that. There is no doubt that the Warriors will be able to make it if he's not in and that's why many teams look at the Warriors whenever he's out, that seems to be a great handicap for them and that's why their chance of winning is less if he's not there.

Just don't forget that the Cavaliers won a championship before because they capitalize when Draymond was suspended. that's how important he is to the team.
I agree, they're able to use that as an advantage when Draymond was out and that's really completing the puzzle that despite all of the heated discussions and hate against Draymond, you'll love him on how he's being embraced by the entire team as one of the most important and key players that has an important role for the franchise especially when it comes to these games like in seeds, playoffs and even in the finals.
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April 12, 2024, 06:36:24 PM
Looks like the Minnesota Timberwolves will be getting Karl Anthony Towns back in time for the playoffs. With how well they’ve been playing I’m not sure if this is a good thing or not, but KAT is an elite talent so I’m sure he’ll help out. I just hope Anthony Edwards continues to get the ball as much. He’s playing great.
Just to stretch this post, here is the news about Karl Anthony Towns of the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Sources: Timberwolves' Karl-Anthony Towns expected to return Fri.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39923850/sources-timberwolves-karl-anthony-towns-expected-return-fri

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Towns, who underwent surgery four weeks ago, was officially upgraded to questionable for Friday's game. He was cleared for full-contact, 5-on-5 basketball activities on Tuesday.

I think the Timberwolves will be alright. KAT had been playing like a shooting guard ever since Gobert came to their roster. He mostly just waits outside for a kick-out pass because of his high efficiency at the three-point line. So chemistry will not be a trouble for them. It's actually a good addition because they will stretch the floor again and the scary Naz Reid will have more opportunities to be open in the three-point line again. We saw that guy a lot of times go hot and never stop. He did it against the Warriors and the Lakers both 6/8.
And Antman will have more space to do his paint attacks again. The trouble that I only see is in defense if KAT is not mentally prepared yet.

Yeah if the Timberwolves want to have any sort of success they need to have KAT right.  Bringing in Gobert was the best thing they did, it allowed KAT to roam the outside while knowing the paint was still secure.  He is fine defensively but he prefers to play on the outside and they play better when he can play liek that.
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April 12, 2024, 04:18:46 PM
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Just look at Draymond Green who also had a four-year contract with the Warriors. I think Jrue Holiday's signing is worth it for the Celtics if we're going to compare to Draymond.
I don't think that we can compare Dray's contract to the Warriors with that of Jrue Holiday. I mean we all know that Dray is the heart and soul of the Warriors and so no surprised that he has been offered a good contract and he chooses to stay even at his age.

But with Holiday, he just been inserted this year and we can say that his point average has gone down this year. It's obvious that he is not their superstar as compare with the Bucks wherein he could be the second option. With the Celtics, they have Tatum and Brown and then KP. So it's either the Celtics will make him their main point guard moving forward and then letting go of Derrick White or Payton Pritchard.
I'm not convinced he's the "heart and soul". The Warriors can remove him from the rotation now and we probably won't notice the difference. The point I'm really getting at with the comparison is that Jrue Holiday is still playing better than Draymond Green. If the latter can get a $100M 4-year contract then the former can do the same. We don't know how the talks  between Celtics management and Jrue's agent went but it's possible that Draymond's contract was also used as reference during the negotiation.

But we can't deny his contributions to the Warriors, even Steph and Kerr admit to that. Of course, Jrue can still play, but I guess the agent did great if he uses Green as a barometer to their negotiations. He got him a good contract that's it, up to Jrue to perform and obviously, there is a high expectations from him moving forward.

Magic vs Sixers, this could be a good game to watch tonight, almost identical records, and then the games held as Sixers home court. I think Philly can hold on the Magic here and they can tie Orlando if they won.
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April 12, 2024, 01:05:04 PM
I think the Timberwolves will be alright. KAT had been playing like a shooting guard ever since Gobert came to their roster. He mostly just waits outside for a kick-out pass because of his high efficiency at the three-point line. So chemistry will not be a trouble for them. It's actually a good addition because they will stretch the floor again and the scary Naz Reid will have more opportunities to be open in the three-point line again. We saw that guy a lot of times go hot and never stop. He did it against the Warriors and the Lakers both 6/8.
And Antman will have more space to do his paint attacks again. The trouble that I only see is in defense if KAT is not mentally prepared yet.
Which shocked the hell out of me to be fair. Even on the first trade news when I heard that they were getting Gobert all the way back when the trade first happened, I was shocked. At a day and age where everyone is playing a small ball type of thing, or a big man that is a little bit more passer etc, they decided to go with a defender big man along with a shooter big man. That is definitely a shocking idea and I have to be honest and say that I believed that it would not work at all, I believed it would fail miserably.

In the end, its proven to be working and I am a better man than that so I get to accept defeat here, I was wrong and I did not know any better and with how good they are, I stand corrected. Seems like its a good idea.
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April 12, 2024, 12:05:08 PM
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Just look at Draymond Green who also had a four-year contract with the Warriors. I think Jrue Holiday's signing is worth it for the Celtics if we're going to compare to Draymond.
I don't think that we can compare Dray's contract to the Warriors with that of Jrue Holiday. I mean we all know that Dray is the heart and soul of the Warriors and so no surprised that he has been offered a good contract and he chooses to stay even at his age.

But with Holiday, he just been inserted this year and we can say that his point average has gone down this year. It's obvious that he is not their superstar as compare with the Bucks wherein he could be the second option. With the Celtics, they have Tatum and Brown and then KP. So it's either the Celtics will make him their main point guard moving forward and then letting go of Derrick White or Payton Pritchard.
I'm not convinced he's the "heart and soul". The Warriors can remove him from the rotation now and we probably won't notice the difference. The point I'm really getting at with the comparison is that Jrue Holiday is still playing better than Draymond Green. If the latter can get a $100M 4-year contract then the former can do the same. We don't know how the talks  between Celtics management and Jrue's agent went but it's possible that Draymond's contract was also used as reference during the negotiation.

We can always look at the stats on how the warriors perform when Draymond is out vs when he is in. honestly, I think Draymond may not be the heart and soul of the team but he is a big help for the Warriors, his experience in the playoffs is very important. Draymond is not a big man but he can defend a big man and with him on the floor, Curry, Thompson and other shooters will have an easy job.

I just really don't think that the Warriors will win in the playoffs without Draymond Green.

Just don't forget that the Cavaliers won a championship before because they capitalize when Draymond was suspended. that's how important he is to the team.
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April 12, 2024, 11:58:07 AM
Looks like the Minnesota Timberwolves will be getting Karl Anthony Towns back in time for the playoffs. With how well they’ve been playing I’m not sure if this is a good thing or not, but KAT is an elite talent so I’m sure he’ll help out. I just hope Anthony Edwards continues to get the ball as much. He’s playing great.

Honestly, I thought the Wolves might go down in the standings a lot after KAT got injured. To my surprise, that didn't happen, and they are still at the top of the standings. If KAT is indeed fully healthy by the start of the playoffs, then I would expect the Wolves to make a deep run in the playoffs. They have a good chance to make it to the WCF.
Just as expected, he will come back when playoff comes.

TBH, I also expect them to at least go out of the top 3 in the West, but it turns out that they don't solely rely on KAT that much to the point where anybody from the team can step up and can get some wins even without him. Well, they're one of the best defensive right now in the league, and that helped them stay on the top 3. I guess another reason is that, the lead between the top 3 and the 4th seed Clippers is too much that it wasn't enough for them to go out of top 3. Whether they will be facing either the Suns or the Pelicans, they have a chance in beating any of them. I don't see the Pelicans beating them especially they don't have Ingram and as for the Suns, they might have the offensive power, but they still have many problems especially on defense.

I feel like Lakers are having a coaching problem, and it is not even about Ham being a good or bad coach, it is about the fact that the team doesn't look like they care about him or listen to him at all
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They have been since the start of the regular season.

I saw on a Facebook post that the players want him to be fired and find a new coach because of his inconsistency, lack of communication with the team, many changes on the starting 5, etc. etc. I mean there's many problems, but they choose to let him be the coach at least for this regular season. I will not be surprised if they will be firing him this off-season especially with their current performance and standings.
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